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The Great Mask Debate: Please Help me Understand This Bullshit

 
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The Great Mask Debate: Please Help me Understand This Bullshit
We keep hearing the demands of the masses on why we should all wear masks. We are told that if you wear a mask, you're not wearing it to protect yourself, rather you are wearing it to protect those around you.

Someone walk me through the science with this, because apparently I am missing something..

If I choose to not wear a mask, but you do choose to wear one, how are you not protected if I sneeze or cough within your vicinity?

If the entire purpose of a mask is to prevent particles, saliva and snot from escaping into the air, and it does so by providing a fabric barrier (whether it's a surgical mask, homemade etc) if that is indeed proven to be true, then why would YOUR mask alone not be offer you any protection, regardless if others around you are wearing one or not? Why would your mask not inhibit particles from entering for you to inhale, but somehow still have the ability of prevent such particles from escaping should you sneeze, cough or exhale?
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Masks are for pussies! Keep hoping one is stupid enough to say something to me for not wearing one!
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Masks are for pussies! Keep hoping one is stupid enough to say something to me for not wearing one!
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That's great but I am really curious as to the counter argument and what I'm missing. How do masks magically only protect those around you, yet somehow don't offer you any protection at the same time?
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1 star from a masked person. Imagine my shock. Still waiting to hear a counter argument to my questions above.
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PSY-OP

DIVIDE AND CONCUR. HA HA.
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From the title of your post, it’s obvious that you want an echo chamber, not an answer.

Get bent, asswipe.
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If you cough or sneeze without a mask your cooties can land in someones eyeball and then they are infected. It can land on an object or surface and then they touch it and have the Chinese virus. Just breathing you are spewing it. Talking, yelling,singing, spewing again.
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Eh, people always too concerned with what others are doing. I wear a mask because it's better to be prepared. I have much to live for and a family I care about keeping safe. If you don't and want to risk your life, that's your problem.

Stay the fuck out of my face and I'll stay the fuck out of yours, it's a polite society around here if you catch my drift.
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If I choose to not wear a mask, but you do choose to wear one, how are you not protected if I sneeze or cough within your vicinity?

If the entire purpose of a mask is to prevent particles, saliva and snot from escaping into the air, and it does so by providing a fabric barrier (whether it's a surgical mask, homemade etc) if that is indeed proven to be true, then why would YOUR mask alone not be offer you any protection, regardless if others around you are wearing one or not? Why would your mask not inhibit particles from entering for you to inhale, but somehow still have the ability of prevent such particles from escaping should you sneeze, cough or exhale?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13127179


I think you need to think more along the lines of - if you were infected but dont have a mask on and were to cough or sneeze, then the particles from your cough or sneeze would land on a surface.

Then if someone touches the surface in which your particles have landed, they are then at a higher risk categorically to contract the virus after coming into direct contact with it.

So if everyone is ordered to wear a mask, then it prevents infected people spreading the infection, by containing it within said mask. Keeping the infection rate(R0) as close to 1:1 as possible.

Side note, I'm not a supporter of wearing a mask before people make assumptions.
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If you cough or sneeze without a mask your cooties can land in someones eyeball and then they are infected. It can land on an object or surface and then they touch it and have the Chinese virus. Just breathing you are spewing it. Talking, yelling,singing, spewing again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75539787


Sorry but research shows the virus blows right thru most cloth and cheap DR office type masks... like rain thru a chain link fence..
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We keep hearing the demands of the masses on why we should all wear masks. We are told that if you wear a mask, you're not wearing it to protect yourself, rather you are wearing it to protect those around you.

Someone walk me through the science with this, because apparently I am missing something..

If I choose to not wear a mask, but you do choose to wear one, how are you not protected if I sneeze or cough within your vicinity?

If the entire purpose of a mask is to prevent particles, saliva and snot from escaping into the air, and it does so by providing a fabric barrier (whether it's a surgical mask, homemade etc) if that is indeed proven to be true, then why would YOUR mask alone not be offer you any protection, regardless if others around you are wearing one or not? Why would your mask not inhibit particles from entering for you to inhale, but somehow still have the ability of prevent such particles from escaping should you sneeze, cough or exhale?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13127179


Does this purposefully imply that the wearer of said mask has to suffocate and inhale his or her own snot, mucus and exhausted germs?

Did we not have to use tissues and wash our hands after such an action in the past?

One has to realize, and it has crossed my mind, that the whole mask agenda are for the uneducated.
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A mask can protect YOU from inhaling, ONLY if it has the proper filtering technology AND it fits perfectly to you face. Only then the air you breath is filtrated, because free-floating viruses and bacteria are really, really small and the mask can stop them if there’s zero air leakage and all the air you breath is filtrated. This is impossible for most cases of general public use, unless you’re wearing a biohazard respirator, designed for professional use.

The general advice for the public to wear masks is based on a simple fact of physics - when you exhale, the water droplets from your breath travel a great distance if there’s nothing to stop them. If you sneeze or cough, this distance is tenfold. The water droplets are those that contain viruses and bacteria that infect others if you’re a carrier.
So, when you yourself wear a mask, it stops a greater number of those droplets traveling far from your body and greatly lowers the air saturation of you breath’s droplets, thus preventing them affecting the people and environment around you. It also stops direct infection from your breath, because most of the droplets are contained within the mask and not transmitted directly on the face of the person standing in front of you.

Is that simple enough for you?
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It doesn't prevent exposure it reduces exposure.

When you think the virus is a nothingburger you don't care about reducing exposure. Viral load, temporary antibodies and mutation reinfections mean nothing to a hoaxtard.
Just put your toes on the top. -HB
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Read this op:
Thread: You CANNOT lose in court for not wearing a mask
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If I choose to not wear a mask, but you do choose to wear one, how are you not protected if I sneeze or cough within your vicinity?

If the entire purpose of a mask is to prevent particles, saliva and snot from escaping into the air, and it does so by providing a fabric barrier (whether it's a surgical mask, homemade etc) if that is indeed proven to be true, then why would YOUR mask alone not be offer you any protection, regardless if others around you are wearing one or not? Why would your mask not inhibit particles from entering for you to inhale, but somehow still have the ability of prevent such particles from escaping should you sneeze, cough or exhale?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13127179


I think you need to think more along the lines of - if you were infected but dont have a mask on and were to cough or sneeze, then the particles from your cough or sneeze would land on a surface.

Then if someone touches the surface in which your particles have landed, they are then at a higher risk categorically to contract the virus after coming into direct contact with it.

So if everyone is ordered to wear a mask, then it prevents infected people spreading the infection, by containing it within said mask. Keeping the infection rate(R0) as close to 1:1 as possible.

Side note, I'm not a supporter of wearing a mask before people make assumptions.
 Quoting: FuckBoris


You're assuming the cougher/sneezer is infected and also is healthy. Why are you assuming they are healthy if they are infected?

If someone touched the table of their snot particles you should then bitch at them why they weren't wearing gloves.
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We keep hearing the demands of the masses on why we should all wear masks. We are told that if you wear a mask, you're not wearing it to protect yourself, rather you are wearing it to protect those around you.

Someone walk me through the science with this, because apparently I am missing something..

If I choose to not wear a mask, but you do choose to wear one, how are you not protected if I sneeze or cough within your vicinity?

If the entire purpose of a mask is to prevent particles, saliva and snot from escaping into the air, and it does so by providing a fabric barrier (whether it's a surgical mask, homemade etc) if that is indeed proven to be true, then why would YOUR mask alone not be offer you any protection, regardless if others around you are wearing one or not? Why would your mask not inhibit particles from entering for you to inhale, but somehow still have the ability of prevent such particles from escaping should you sneeze, cough or exhale?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13127179


Surgical (cloth) masks do not STOP virus droplets from cough, sneeze, speech or breath.

But they do REDUCE the distance those particles can travel, by providing resistance to the air-flow propelling them.

It's as if you have an army on one bank of a river, shooting at an army on the opposite bank. They are within range, your bullets can reach them.

Now, put a barge piled high with hay bales between the two somewhere on the river. Your troops continue to shoot, but very few bullets penetrate with enough force to be lethal.

The mask is the hay bales, the gunpowder is your cough, speech or breath, the bullets are virus particles.

Is a mask a guarantee no particle will escape? No. Is a hay bale bullet-proof? No. But some protection is better than none, and in epidemics, slowing the spread of infection is the most important thing. It is ok if a lot of people get sick over a long period of time. What's important is that not so many get sick that the resources to care for them aren't swamped all at once. Because with medical care, most of those sick folks will recover. But with care stretched to the breaking point because doctors and nurses are working triple shifts with no sleep, or meds can't be restocked fast enough, or there simply aren't hospital facilities for them... you have a different outcome. A lot of sick folks who COULD have recovered, don't make it because they couldn't be cared for as effectively.

This has been on virtually every news outlet 24/7, both broadcast and online for the past 2-3 months, so just about everyone knew this already, I thought. Just spelling it out plain and simple here in case your question is legit and not just trolling.

Hopefully, that's cleared up now. You don't know if you're asymptomatic. You can spread it without knowing. Treat others as you would want others to treat people you love and care about more than yourself. Be decent, be responsible. It is not that hard. Nobody's asking you to pull a winter in Valley Forge or storm beaches in Normandy. It's not a huge sacrifice, just a minor inconvenience. Those conflicts were about freedom. This is about being a responsible member of society, not "freedom".
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From the title of your post, it’s obvious that you want an echo chamber, not an answer.

Get bent, asswipe.
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Your BFD is showing. chuckle
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trump-FO MASK NAZI MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Masks are pointless when the virus can enter through your eyes.
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Masks are pointless when the virus can enter through your eyes.
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scared Don't give the Covidiots any ideas!
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Everyone in our countries are not being ordered to wear masks. Their term is "cloth face coverings". Let's start using their own term loudly. Let it sink in to cloth face covering wearers ears because right now they cannot discern this is religion, and by using the word "mask" it imparts a medical need which is the lie that hides the religion that this is. The term mask also reinforces their taught belief that it somehow protects them and others in a medical sense.

1. NJRSES NEVER RESORTED TO THEM IN THE FACE OF NO PPE NARRATIVE: We were all told the poor doctors and nurses did not have enough "ppe" - medical masks. Yet not once were we given a media narrative that "cloth face coverings" were brought in to hospitals during their lack of ppe. Why is that? If they had any benefit whatsoever, nurses would have donned them as they had no ppe. A nurse - so the story goes of asymptomatic people being able to spread - should have been wearing them nonstop to assist with not inadvertently transmitting it between patients. But they did not.

2. ASYMPTOMATIC SPREADERS: in their history of viruses of colds and flu we have been told that symptomatic people - which are people coughing and sneezing - can spread coronavirus and influenza. Not asymptomatic people. But with covid - a coronavirus- we now have the remarkable tale of asymptomatic people - who DONT COUGH OR SNEEZE - being spreaders. Why would I need a mask if I am not coughing or sneezing? Oh the covid superstitious tale now says you "may" spread it by speaking or even breathing!

3. FOREVER WEARING CLOTH FACE COVERINGS: How many tens of thousands die annually from influenza and colds and pneominia and tb according to the science? Why then is there zero need to wear cloth face coverings during the entire season of influenza? Does this perhaps signal a trap the cloth face covering wearing people are setting up for themselves? That they by their own proclaimed "I wear one to protect the health and safety of others" mantra they now must wear one from this moment forward for the rest of their lives. At any moment according to the new science they could be asymptomatic carriers of disease!

4. BACTERIA: iCloth face coverings trap breathed bacteria and moisture. They become wet and breeding grounds of bacteria both from the wearers lungs and the environment around them. Bacteria plus moisture = pneumonia. Use their science against them.

5. Most cloth face covering wearers proclaim loudly they wear it to protect others. They won't however go and visit their family for fear that they may bring an infection to them, even wearing cloth face coverings. Yet these same people will stroll to the store, shop around their neighbours and people they don't know, not worried in the least if they should infect them. I ask them is it REALLY you want to protoect others?
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Remember when you were a kid and your mom told you to wash your hands before dinner? Remember when your mom told you to cover your mouth when you sneeze or cough? Basic fucking hygiene people. You don't want corona? Wash your fucking hands. Want to know why nursing homes have such a high rate of Corona?? They are fucking filthy. Combine that with an older population with a lower immunity, and people who are unable to perform basic hygine without assistance.

And who is assisting?? Not the staff. Have any of you been in a nursing home? Combine poor hygiene with sticking your fingers all over your face, eyes, mouth and of course you're going to spread disease.

You know what the covid hot spots tell me? You have a whole lot of dirty motherfuckers all confined to a small space... All of a sudden people think masks will save you. Ever hear of soap??
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we breathe out mostly carbon dioxide, about a 100 fold increase over the inhaled amount.

Deaths will increase from the Elderly Mask Wearers, as they decrease their Oxygen Intake and lower their Immune System

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Basic physiology.

Some people were sleeping in that class.
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OP,

There are 3 ways for socialist pricks to attack us.

1. Mask arguments.
2. Social Distancing arguments.
3. Fear of COVID arguments.

Your answers:

Learn about all accusations.
Say nothing to these idiots, they are gone.
Go about you business as much as possible.

There are legal documents found on GLP that can stop all 3 of these type of accuser tyrants. Its already been posted and you can ask around for them. We are organizing a counter-strike.

Use keyword, "mask" in your search.





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