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Dan Burisch & Bill Hamilton Cyberstalk UFO Researcher

 
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I am a television producer who has worked in the entertainment industry for years. I worked on a well known Sci-Fi series at the time of this meeting. I have an avid interest in UFO and this gets me introduced to many people in the UFO research field, as well as people on the fringe of the UFO field. A good friend of mine, who is a well known UFO researcher, introduced me to Dan Burisch, Bill Hamilton, and and a woman cliaming to be Dan Burisch's mother.

If anyone doesn't know who Dan Burisch (aka Dan Crain) is by now, he's a hoaxer who claims to hold a Ph.D. in microbiology. He claims to have worked in a black ops project that involved a grey alien called J-Rod. Burisch has been promoted by different people, among them, Ron Garner, Linda Moulton Howe, and Bill Hamilton.

When I took the meeting Burisch's promoter was Bill Hamilton. I didn't know Hamilton was involved. If I had known I would have pulled out of the meeting. I don't consider Bill Hamilton to be a trustworthy UFO researcher, based on claims he makes in his books and lectures. I couldn't see how Burisch could be legit if he had partnered with Hamilton.

I took the meeting and sat through a pitch that was not to be believed. Even if he were pitching me a Sci-Fi story, instead of the true story he claimed it to be, I would have passed on the project. Burisch's story has so many holes that it was obvious the pitch was based on fabricated material. These people wanted me to put up the money for a documentary on Burisch, with an initial up front payment of $30,000.

I don't know why these people thought I was an idiot with deep pockets but the meeting had its entertainment value. I was getting a first hand education on con artists at work. I can't say too much because I've turned over certain material to the authorities. I'll be making a docudrama about these charcters, which is a side of these people I don't think the public has seen. I think it will be a big eye opener to what these characters are all about. I can't imagine how anyone could ever take Burisch's fantasy story seriously. There was no way I was going to lend my talent and connections to those characters deception of the public.

After the meeting I had a talk with my UFO researcher friend, who had arranged the meeting. I was very upset with him for setting me up with UFO hoaxers. This is when he revealed that he didn't know the person he was setting me up with was Burisch. The man was using a different name (Dan Crain) and he didn't know that Dan Crain was Dan Burisch. I washed my hands on that meeting and my UFO researcher friend said what he needed to say to Burisch and Hamilton.

It was shortly after this when my UFO researcher friend (we did remain friends after this incident) became the victim of a cyberstalking smear campaign. It was later discovered that the harrassment originated with Dan Burisch and Bill Hamilton. We believe they did this because they thought my UFO researcher friend had soured their chances of doing business with me. After some discreet discussions with reputable people in the UFO field, I found a number of cyberstalking complaints about Dan Burisch and Bill Hamilton. Sometimes they worked together and sometimes alone. Let this be a lesson to remember.

If anyone has any information about cybersytalking and harrassment by either Dan Burisch or Bill Hamilton, please post your story here. If you're brave enough then take your complaint to law enforcement. Burisch and Hamilton's M.O. is to create fake internet identities and harrass through them, but not always. They've both been caught using their recognizable names to cyberstalk. Burisch already uses a number of aliases, and may have others. The purpose of the cyberstalking is to discredit someone whom they believe has kept them from something they want. That's what they tried to do with my researcher friend. Burisch and Hamilton's behavior was very disturbing.
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Good to know. Thanks for posting.
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Erm, did you use the Search Function: Dan Burisch....

I think it might answer your question, LOL!

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That was interesting!
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Mr TV producer,

You have my sympathy.

:)
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wow, you threw out some big names, so, what is your name, mr. tv man ???????
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09/21/2007 08:10 PM
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WTF are Dan Hamilton and Bill Burisch??



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Mr TV producer,

You have my sympathy.

:)
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Boomer is that you?

Is all this stuff true?

Good to see you again old chap:)

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WTF are Dan Hamilton and Bill Burisch??



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Quite the combination of AV and emoicon there.
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hey boomer!
didn't you write a book about burisch and j-rod?
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I've never thought much of Burisch or his claims, but Bill Hamilton always struck me as a reputable sort of guy.
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I've never thought much of Burisch or his claims, but Bill Hamilton always struck me as a reputable sort of guy.
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GLP has some good threads on Burisch complete with the evidence he's a fraud and a con artist. I don't know why some people got so enamored of him. His story is delisional IMO. If he were what he claims to be then he'd never be allowed to speak at all. Because he does speak it's a hoax.

Bill Hamilton has been around for a long time and he's very fringe out there. I was on his skywatcher list and he got removed and the list was deleted because of something bad that he did. Now Mr.TV producer has revealed the missing pieces to the Bill Hamilton skywatch mystery. This must have been when Hamilton got caught cyberstalking another UFO researcher and it got ugly off list.

Hamilton never was a reputable researcher. He made himself sound smart because he could parrot back snips of somebody else's UFO or time travel research. He's never contributed anything of value that was his own research. He promoted Dan Burisch and that makes him someone promoting a hoaxer to the UFO community. I think that's clear for anyone to see.
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they done fished for sumethin hard that they never done got.
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Hamilton never was a reputable researcher. He made himself sound smart because he could parrot back snips of somebody else's UFO or time travel research. He's never contributed anything of value that was his own research. He promoted Dan Burisch and that makes him someone promoting a hoaxer to the UFO community. I think that's clear for anyone to see.
 Quoting: Cool As Can Be 301585


That's not entirely true. As an investigator, Hamilton has made important contributions to the field in the past, e.g., Brian Scott case, Charles Suggs, etc. I don't know why or how he got mixed up with Burisch. Perhaps he is the victim of a con himself.
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I am a television producer who has worked in the entertainment industry for years. I worked on a well known Sci-Fi series at the time of this meeting. I have an avid interest in UFO and this gets me introduced to many people in the UFO research field, as well as people on the fringe of the UFO field. A good friend of mine, who is a well known UFO researcher, introduced me to Dan Burisch, Bill Hamilton, and and a woman cliaming to be Dan Burisch's mother.

If anyone doesn't know who Dan Burisch (aka Dan Crain) is by now, he's a hoaxer who claims to hold a Ph.D. in microbiology. He claims to have worked in a black ops project that involved a grey alien called J-Rod. Burisch has been promoted by different people, among them, Ron Garner, Linda Moulton Howe, and Bill Hamilton.

When I took the meeting Burisch's promoter was Bill Hamilton. I didn't know Hamilton was involved. If I had known I would have pulled out of the meeting. I don't consider Bill Hamilton to be a trustworthy UFO researcher, based on claims he makes in his books and lectures. I couldn't see how Burisch could be legit if he had partnered with Hamilton.

I took the meeting and sat through a pitch that was not to be believed. Even if he were pitching me a Sci-Fi story, instead of the true story he claimed it to be, I would have passed on the project. Burisch's story has so many holes that it was obvious the pitch was based on fabricated material. These people wanted me to put up the money for a documentary on Burisch, with an initial up front payment of $30,000.

I don't know why these people thought I was an idiot with deep pockets but the meeting had its entertainment value. I was getting a first hand education on con artists at work. I can't say too much because I've turned over certain material to the authorities. I'll be making a docudrama about these charcters, which is a side of these people I don't think the public has seen. I think it will be a big eye opener to what these characters are all about. I can't imagine how anyone could ever take Burisch's fantasy story seriously. There was no way I was going to lend my talent and connections to those characters deception of the public.

After the meeting I had a talk with my UFO researcher friend, who had arranged the meeting. I was very upset with him for setting me up with UFO hoaxers. This is when he revealed that he didn't know the person he was setting me up with was Burisch. The man was using a different name (Dan Crain) and he didn't know that Dan Crain was Dan Burisch. I washed my hands on that meeting and my UFO researcher friend said what he needed to say to Burisch and Hamilton.

It was shortly after this when my UFO researcher friend (we did remain friends after this incident) became the victim of a cyberstalking smear campaign. It was later discovered that the harrassment originated with Dan Burisch and Bill Hamilton. We believe they did this because they thought my UFO researcher friend had soured their chances of doing business with me. After some discreet discussions with reputable people in the UFO field, I found a number of cyberstalking complaints about Dan Burisch and Bill Hamilton. Sometimes they worked together and sometimes alone. Let this be a lesson to remember.

If anyone has any information about cybersytalking and harrassment by either Dan Burisch or Bill Hamilton, please post your story here. If you're brave enough then take your complaint to law enforcement. Burisch and Hamilton's M.O. is to create fake internet identities and harrass through them, but not always. They've both been caught using their recognizable names to cyberstalk. Burisch already uses a number of aliases, and may have others. The purpose of the cyberstalking is to discredit someone whom they believe has kept them from something they want. That's what they tried to do with my researcher friend. Burisch and Hamilton's behavior was very disturbing.
 Quoting: TV Producer 286358




T.V. Producer, you went to a lot of work typing that and telling everyone how to be brave and call the police - why don't you? There's one thing you forgot in your post: your name.

The only thing you produce is disinformation.

If Burisch is such a fucking hoaxer, then why do all the experts who attack him have no names, and the others admit they lie to the public?

Prove me wrong.

What's your name, company, contact information?

How brave is it to tell others to go to the police?

What's your name?
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I am a television producer who has worked in the entertainment industry for years. I worked on a well known Sci-Fi series at the time of this meeting. I have an avid interest in UFO and this gets me introduced to many people in the UFO research field, as well as people on the fringe of the UFO field. A good friend of mine, who is a well known UFO researcher, introduced me to Dan Burisch, Bill Hamilton, and and a woman cliaming to be Dan Burisch's mother.

If anyone doesn't know who Dan Burisch (aka Dan Crain) is by now, he's a hoaxer who claims to hold a Ph.D. in microbiology. He claims to have worked in a black ops project that involved a grey alien called J-Rod. Burisch has been promoted by different people, among them, Ron Garner, Linda Moulton Howe, and Bill Hamilton.

When I took the meeting Burisch's promoter was Bill Hamilton. I didn't know Hamilton was involved. If I had known I would have pulled out of the meeting. I don't consider Bill Hamilton to be a trustworthy UFO researcher, based on claims he makes in his books and lectures. I couldn't see how Burisch could be legit if he had partnered with Hamilton.

I took the meeting and sat through a pitch that was not to be believed. Even if he were pitching me a Sci-Fi story, instead of the true story he claimed it to be, I would have passed on the project. Burisch's story has so many holes that it was obvious the pitch was based on fabricated material. These people wanted me to put up the money for a documentary on Burisch, with an initial up front payment of $30,000.

I don't know why these people thought I was an idiot with deep pockets but the meeting had its entertainment value. I was getting a first hand education on con artists at work. I can't say too much because I've turned over certain material to the authorities. I'll be making a docudrama about these charcters, which is a side of these people I don't think the public has seen. I think it will be a big eye opener to what these characters are all about. I can't imagine how anyone could ever take Burisch's fantasy story seriously. There was no way I was going to lend my talent and connections to those characters deception of the public.

After the meeting I had a talk with my UFO researcher friend, who had arranged the meeting. I was very upset with him for setting me up with UFO hoaxers. This is when he revealed that he didn't know the person he was setting me up with was Burisch. The man was using a different name (Dan Crain) and he didn't know that Dan Crain was Dan Burisch. I washed my hands on that meeting and my UFO researcher friend said what he needed to say to Burisch and Hamilton.

It was shortly after this when my UFO researcher friend (we did remain friends after this incident) became the victim of a cyberstalking smear campaign. It was later discovered that the harrassment originated with Dan Burisch and Bill Hamilton. We believe they did this because they thought my UFO researcher friend had soured their chances of doing business with me. After some discreet discussions with reputable people in the UFO field, I found a number of cyberstalking complaints about Dan Burisch and Bill Hamilton. Sometimes they worked together and sometimes alone. Let this be a lesson to remember.

If anyone has any information about cybersytalking and harrassment by either Dan Burisch or Bill Hamilton, please post your story here. If you're brave enough then take your complaint to law enforcement. Burisch and Hamilton's M.O. is to create fake internet identities and harrass through them, but not always. They've both been caught using their recognizable names to cyberstalk. Burisch already uses a number of aliases, and may have others. The purpose of the cyberstalking is to discredit someone whom they believe has kept them from something they want. That's what they tried to do with my researcher friend. Burisch and Hamilton's behavior was very disturbing.
 Quoting: TV Producer 286358




T.V. Producer, you went to a lot of work typing that and telling everyone how to be brave and call the police - why don't you? There's one thing you forgot in your post: your name.

The only thing you produce is disinformation.

If Burisch is such a fucking hoaxer, then why do all the experts who attack him have no names, and the others admit they lie to the public?

Prove me wrong.

What's your name, company, contact information?

How brave is it to tell others to go to the police?

What's your name?
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bump and pin
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Hey Boomerang! LTNS.. Hope your doing well!


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T.V. Producer, you went to a lot of work typing that and telling everyone how to be brave and call the police - why don't you? There's one thing you forgot in your post: your name.

The only thing you produce is disinformation.

If Burisch is such a fucking hoaxer, then why do all the experts who attack him have no names, and the others admit they lie to the public?

Prove me wrong.

What's your name, company, contact information?

How brave is it to tell others to go to the police?

What's your name?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 200201


Why are you sure the OP post is disinfo? Doesn't read like disinfo to me. Reads like an honest man had the guts to warn others about getting hit up for money to promote Burisch's fraud game. Reads like other posts I've read on many forums about lies and stalking by Dan and Bill.

Which one are you? Bill Hamilton or Dan Burisch? Why don't you tell us all who you are? Post your real name, photo, address, phone numbers, and work place and make sure it comes with proof.

I read what the TV producer wrote and he's telling the truth about Bill Hamilton being kicked from the skywatcher list. That's right around the time Hamilton started promoting Dan Burisch. This can be checked out.

Read correctly, Bill or Dan. OP wrote that authorites have already been contacted.

UFOwatchdog has a section on the lies of Dan Burisch in their hall of shame. So does GLP. That info can be used by a prosecuter to show Dan's dirty dealings and Bill's promoting him and the lies. Hell, Bill Hamilton has published about Burisch's lies even tho there was plenty of ammo showing Dan's sick game screwing the UFO community.
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IMHO both the OP and Burisch are well crafted disinfo. The saga of Dan IMHO was to have a door to walk through if the scientific community demonstrated integrity on the Mars issue. Now that they have failed the feet that have always been in both camps have simply shifted their weight.
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cons are in place to dragnet
draw out info from the public

everyone has an agenda
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IMHO both the OP and Burisch are well crafted disinfo. The saga of Dan IMHO was to have a door to walk through if the scientific community demonstrated integrity on the Mars issue. Now that they have failed the feet that have always been in both camps have simply shifted their weight.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 219520


IMO OP is telling the truth and Burisch and Hamilton are the disinfo people. Nobody needs to put out disinfo on Hamilton and Burisch because they out themselves everytime they open their mouths.
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cons are in place to dragnet
draw out info from the public

everyone has an agenda
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300869

I am quite sure you are correct but all of that must come to naught in the end. The truth when it arrives will be far beyond the point that any lie that anyone can tell could dispute. The more that is covered now the greater the indictment later.
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I have enjoyed following the Burisch saga over the years. It has taught me a lot about deception and disinformation and so much of the ways and campaign of the intelligence community and their role in the surreal environment of ufology.
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OP you just fucked up and I hope you get whats coming to you.
Dr D and Team are good people with integrity and compassion in their hearts.
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OP you just fucked up and I hope you get whats coming to you.
Dr D and Team are good people with integrity and compassion in their hearts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 230009

How do you know them so well? This story really engrossed me for a while, but good solid examination convinced me that it is very good disinfo. I know how you feel though I have felt the same. Take a deeper look, test all of it, good luck to you.
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Boomer isn't a tv producer, as far as I know. Seems to be from George Knapp, based on the info included. The whole thing seems to be a scam, but there may have been help in floating this pile. Reason? Maybe to poison the well to certain information that could leak out.
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Wouldn't the OPs post be considered cyberstalking in it's own right? Allegations with no facts seems like some one with an ax to grind.





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