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I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?

 
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Bible bashers are people who scoff at scripture.

I see you are uneducated. So I wouldn't expect you to know what you are talking about in you ignorance.
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noun INFORMAL•BRITISH
plural noun: Bible-bashers
a person who expounds or follows the teachings of the Bible in an aggressively evangelical way.

Say what?

Maybe check your facts before declaring someone uneducated or you risk looking foolish...oh wait, it's to late
 Quoting: shivajiva


So I stand corrected. Thank you.

However, that isn't what it means to me. YOU are bashing the bible.

I never asked you to come into this thread and mock it. I never forced you to open it and read it. You did that all on your own.

So, who is bashing who here huh?
 Quoting: Osmium76


You are bashing the bible as stated in the definition, I'm pointing out for balance that you are quoting the word of man, it's not gods words.

Why, because I'm a forum member and the right of free speech isn't exclusive, by nature it's inclusive.

Are you not mocking the nature of existence by failing to use the divine within to realise the true nature of God and yourself, whilst declaring your allegiance to a manipulation of that truth?
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We know scripture identifies the HARLOT as the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH.

This is important to know, because by knowing it, you can see why I say what I say in my other thread. Thread: Agenda 2030 is about implementing the MARK OF THE BEAST. A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT UNDER THE U.N. **UPDATE PAGE 5 & 6**

Once you realize this and understand it, you can see that AGENDA 2030 meets the criteria for ushering in THE ANTI CHRIST AND THE MARK OF THE BEAST, UNDER THE BEAST SYSTEM.



Many Bible scholars are aware that the book of Revelation is about prophecy. One of the most studied areas of prophecy is concerning Babylon in the end times. More specifically, Revelation 17 and Revelation 18 describe a coming one-world religious system and a one-world economic system respectively that is given the name Babylon. As part of a one-world Babylonian religious system in Revelation 17, mention is made of a woman known as the Mother of Harlots. Who is the harlot mentioned in Revelation 17? A short Bible study will provide the answer. [link to www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com (secure)]

Many people are not aware that the Roman Catholic Church split and fractured.

The POPE is the Head of the Roman Catholic Church.

The pope also known as the supreme pontiff, or the Roman pontiff, is the bishop of Rome, chief pastor of the worldwide Catholic Church,[4] and head of state or sovereign of the Vatican City State.[5] Since 1929, the pope has official residence in the Apostolic Palace in the Vatican City, a city-state enclaved within Rome, Italy.[6] The current pope is Francis, who was elected on 13 March 2013, succeeding Benedict XVI.[7]

The Great Schism of 1054 and the Split of Christianity [link to www.learnreligions.com (secure)]

The Queen of England Elizabeth the 2nd is Head of one of the primary break away churches.

Her title is Supreme Governor of the Church of England.

She is the longest-lived and longest-reigning British monarch. She is the longest-serving female head of state in world history, and the world's oldest living monarch, longest-reigning current monarch, and oldest and longest-serving current head of state. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

It will be interesting to see what happens when The Queen steps down.

There are claims that the the English Monarchy stems from the throne of David. A throne that rightfully belongs to Christ and that when the Queen is no longer seated on it, Jesus will come back to lay claim to it, but not before the Anti Christ does under the beast system.

The Mystery of the Royal British Throne ( You will need to do a keyword search as the link is banned from this site)

So, if the Roman Catholic Church and the British church were ever to reconcile, then who instead would lay claim to that throne, but the Pope?

The Pope on on behalf of the Roman Catholic Church, even now is saying all faiths must come together.

12 Times Pope Francis Has Openly Promoted a One World Religion or a New World Order [link to www.charismanews.com (secure)]

America was founded when it broke away from England.

Why did America break off from England? [link to www.answers.com (secure)]

It is for all of these reasons, that I press upon you to think about AGENDA 2030 AND WHAT IT MEANS IN PROPHECY.

I don't claim all of this is true. But I don't so readily dismiss it either.

I bring it to your attention because it is something I wish to have discussion and insight on and understand. I share it, because it seems to me that we ARE in the end times and these things are key factors which add perspective to that credence.

THE AGENDA 2030 PLAN IS CERTAINLY DRACONIAN IN SCOPE AND FITS WITH WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT THE BEAST SYSTEM RULED BY THE ANTI CHRIST.
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noun INFORMAL•BRITISH
plural noun: Bible-bashers
a person who expounds or follows the teachings of the Bible in an aggressively evangelical way.

Say what?

Maybe check your facts before declaring someone uneducated or you risk looking foolish...oh wait, it's to late
 Quoting: shivajiva


So I stand corrected. Thank you.

However, that isn't what it means to me. YOU are bashing the bible.

I never asked you to come into this thread and mock it. I never forced you to open it and read it. You did that all on your own.

So, who is bashing who here huh?
 Quoting: Osmium76


You are bashing the bible as stated in the definition, I'm pointing out for balance that you are quoting the word of man, it's not gods words.

Why, because I'm a forum member and the right of free speech isn't exclusive, by nature it's inclusive.

Are you not mocking the nature of existence by failing to use the divine within to realise the true nature of God and yourself, whilst declaring your allegiance to a manipulation of that truth?
 Quoting: shivajiva


hesright
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I already said he was right on the bashing definition. Then I identified my own perception on it as being correct also.

As for the other things you say, well, you are entitled to your opinion.

I am here for discovery as it pertains to scripture.

I am not interested in debating weather or not you believe the bible is authentically Gods inspired work or drivel from some man 2k years ago. I and many others believe and have faith in it's accuracy.

A debate on the bible's and who and why it was written isn't what the thread is about.


Glad you are a forum member. music
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~

1) Luke Twelve - Forty Nine = 262 _ A1-Z26

2) Verse Value = 600 _ A1-Z26

3) 262+600 = 862

4) 862+862 = 1724

5) 1724+1724 = 3448

6) 3448+3448 = 6896

7) 6896+6896 = 13792

8) 13792+13792 = 27584

9) 27584+27584 = 55168/31102 = Remainder: 24066

10) 55168+55168 = 110336/31102 = Remainder: 17030

11) 12) 13) ...

~~


Verse 25509 = 21 ~ Luke 12:49 = 61 (82)

I Am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?

~~

1) Verse 262 = 10 ~ Gen 10:27 = 37 (47)

And Hadoram, and Uzal, and Diklah,


2) Verse 600 = 6 ~ Genesis 24:8 (32)

And if the woman will not be willing to follow thee, then thou shalt be clear from this my oath: only bring not my son thither again.


3) Verse 862 = 16 ~ Genesis 30:31 = 61 (77)

And he said, What shall I give thee? And Jacob said, Thou shalt not give me any thing: if thou wilt do this thing for me, I will again feed and keep thy flock:


4) Verse 1724 = 14 ~ Exodus 8:13 = 21 (35) 8

And YHWH did according to the word of Moses; and the frogs died out of the houses, out of the villages, and out of the fields.


5) Verse 3448 = 19 ~ Leviticus 24:1 = 25 (44) 8

And YHWH spake unto Moses, saying,


6) Verse 6896 = 29 ~ Judges 13:11 = 24 (53) 8

And Manoah arose, and went after his wife, and came to the man, and said unto him, Art thou the man that spakest unto the woman? And he said, I am.


7) Verse 13792 = 22 ~ Job 37:22 = 59 (81)

Fair weather cometh out of the north: with God is terrible majesty.


8) 27584 = 26 = 8 ~ Acts 18:26 = 44 = 8 (70)

And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.


9)

10)


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We know scripture identifies the HARLOT as the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH.

This is important to know, because by knowing it, you can see why I say what I say in my other thread. Thread: Agenda 2030 is about implementing the MARK OF THE BEAST. A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT UNDER THE U.N. **UPDATE PAGE 5 & 6**

Once you realize this and understand it, you can see that AGENDA 2030 meets the criteria for ushering in THE ANTI CHRIST AND THE MARK OF THE BEAST, UNDER THE BEAST SYSTEM.



Many Bible scholars are aware that the book of Revelation is about prophecy. One of the most studied areas of prophecy is concerning Babylon in the end times. More specifically, Revelation 17 and Revelation 18 describe a coming one-world religious system and a one-world economic system respectively that is given the name Babylon. As part of a one-world Babylonian religious system in Revelation 17, mention is made of a woman known as the Mother of Harlots. Who is the harlot mentioned in Revelation 17? A short Bible study will provide the answer. [link to www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com (secure)]

Many people are not aware that the Roman Catholic Church split and fractured.

The POPE is the Head of the Roman Catholic Church.

The pope also known as the supreme pontiff, or the Roman pontiff, is the bishop of Rome, chief pastor of the worldwide Catholic Church,[4] and head of state or sovereign of the Vatican City State.[5] Since 1929, the pope has official residence in the Apostolic Palace in the Vatican City, a city-state enclaved within Rome, Italy.[6] The current pope is Francis, who was elected on 13 March 2013, succeeding Benedict XVI.[7]

The Great Schism of 1054 and the Split of Christianity [link to www.learnreligions.com (secure)]

The Queen of England Elizabeth the 2nd is Head of one of the primary break away churches.

Her title is Supreme Governor of the Church of England.

She is the longest-lived and longest-reigning British monarch. She is the longest-serving female head of state in world history, and the world's oldest living monarch, longest-reigning current monarch, and oldest and longest-serving current head of state. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

It will be interesting to see what happens when The Queen steps down.

There are claims that the the English Monarchy stems from the throne of David. A throne that rightfully belongs to Christ and that when the Queen is no longer seated on it, Jesus will come back to lay claim to it, but not before the Anti Christ does under the beast system.

The Mystery of the Royal British Throne ( You will need to do a keyword search as the link is banned from this site)

So, if the Roman Catholic Church and the British church were ever to reconcile, then who instead would lay claim to that throne, but the Pope?

The Pope on on behalf of the Roman Catholic Church, even now is saying all faiths must come together.

12 Times Pope Francis Has Openly Promoted a One World Religion or a New World Order [link to www.charismanews.com (secure)]

America was founded when it broke away from England.

Why did America break off from England? [link to www.answers.com (secure)]

It is for all of these reasons, that I press upon you to think about AGENDA 2030 AND WHAT IT MEANS IN PROPHECY.

I don't claim all of this is true. But I don't so readily dismiss it either.

I bring it to your attention because it is something I wish to have discussion and insight on and understand. I share it, because it seems to me that we ARE in the end times and these things are key factors which add perspective to that credence.

THE AGENDA 2030 PLAN IS CERTAINLY DRACONIAN IN SCOPE AND FITS WITH WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT THE BEAST SYSTEM RULED BY THE ANTI CHRIST.
 Quoting: Osmium76


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~

1) Luke Twelve - Forty Nine = 262 _ A1-Z26

2) Verse Value = 600 _ A1-Z26

3) 262+600 = 862

4) 862+862 = 1724

5) 1724+1724 = 3448

6) 3448+3448 = 6896

7) 6896+6896 = 13792

8) 13792+13792 = 27584

9) 27584+27584 = 55168/31102 = Remainder: 24066

10) 55168+55168 = 110336/31102 = Remainder: 17030

11) 12) 13) ...

~~


Verse 25509 = 21 ~ Luke 12:49 = 61 (82)

I Am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?

~~

1) Verse 262 = 10 ~ Gen 10:27 = 37 (47)

And Hadoram, and Uzal, and Diklah,


2) Verse 600 = 6 ~ Genesis 24:8 (32)

And if the woman will not be willing to follow thee, then thou shalt be clear from this my oath: only bring not my son thither again.


3) Verse 862 = 16 ~ Genesis 30:31 = 61 (77)

And he said, What shall I give thee? And Jacob said, Thou shalt not give me any thing: if thou wilt do this thing for me, I will again feed and keep thy flock:


4) Verse 1724 = 14 ~ Exodus 8:13 = 21 (35) 8

And YHWH did according to the word of Moses; and the frogs died out of the houses, out of the villages, and out of the fields.


5) Verse 3448 = 19 ~ Leviticus 24:1 = 25 (44) 8

And YHWH spake unto Moses, saying,


6) Verse 6896 = 29 ~ Judges 13:11 = 24 (53) 8

And Manoah arose, and went after his wife, and came to the man, and said unto him, Art thou the man that spakest unto the woman? And he said, I am.


7) Verse 13792 = 22 ~ Job 37:22 = 59 (81)

Fair weather cometh out of the north: with God is terrible majesty.


8) 27584 = 26 = 8 ~ Acts 18:26 = 44 = 8 (70)

And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.


9)

10)


~~~

A1-Z26 Calculator
[link to gematrinator.com]

Search Verse 1-31102
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I will remove any more gematria posts from this thread.
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Ok, no more here, I am free from contributing to this thread.

Here is Wisdom, Let him that hath understanding count the number...

fire
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Ok, no more here, I am free from contributing to this thread.

Here is Wisdom, Let him that hath understanding count the number...

:fire:
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[link to 666beast.net] AS it is explained in the link, to me is a better fit.

Gematria is a stretch in my opinion and honestly, it is all gibberish to me.

I don't mind you posting up scripture, but the numbers are like another language, which require an interpreter. Not only that, you can make up anything you like playing with them, so nothing is nailed down to verify accuracy.

Nothing personal against you.
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why do people always think this applies to their time? because they are fools, they are very afraid, they like to have "secret information" from the Bible. Or they just want to be the ass who says, "see I told you so!"

The time you spend worrying and discerning the end times is a waste. A very big waste of your time.

Repent, beleive in Jesus Christ, crucified and risen, spend time telling others about this Word. Evangelize!

everything else is vanity.
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why do people always think this applies to their time? because they are fools, they are very afraid, they like to have "secret information" from the Bible. Or they just want to be the ass who says, "see I told you so!"

The time you spend worrying and discerning the end times is a waste. A very big waste of your time.

Repent, beleive in Jesus Christ, crucified and risen, spend time telling others about this Word. Evangelize!

everything else is vanity.
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If you read the thread, I tell why I shared what I have.

It has nothing to do with pushing the bible on people.

I has nothing to do with wanting to have secret information.

It has everything to do with what I see going on in the world today and how I believe scripture identifies it.

It has EVERYTHING TO DO with What the UN AGENDA 2030 GOALS TELL US THEY WANT FOR HUMANITY AND HOW THAT RELATES TO BIBLE PROPHECY.
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I have other plans today, so will be afk.

Please stay on topic.

If you don't like the thread....please just find another thread more to your liking.

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~

1) Luke Twelve - Forty Nine = 262 _ A1-Z26

2) Verse Value = 600 _ A1-Z26

3) 262+600 = 862

4) 862+862 = 1724

5) 1724+1724 = 3448

6) 3448+3448 = 6896

7) 6896+6896 = 13792

8) 13792+13792 = 27584

9) 27584+27584 = 55168/31102 = Remainder: 24066

10) 55168+55168 = 110336/31102 = Remainder: 17030

11) 12) 13) ...

~~


Verse 25509 = 21 ~ Luke 12:49 = 61 (82)

I Am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?

~~

1) Verse 262 = 10 ~ Gen 10:27 = 37 (47)

And Hadoram, and Uzal, and Diklah,


2) Verse 600 = 6 ~ Genesis 24:8 (32)

And if the woman will not be willing to follow thee, then thou shalt be clear from this my oath: only bring not my son thither again.


3) Verse 862 = 16 ~ Genesis 30:31 = 61 (77)

And he said, What shall I give thee? And Jacob said, Thou shalt not give me any thing: if thou wilt do this thing for me, I will again feed and keep thy flock:


4) Verse 1724 = 14 ~ Exodus 8:13 = 21 (35) 8

And YHWH did according to the word of Moses; and the frogs died out of the houses, out of the villages, and out of the fields.


5) Verse 3448 = 19 ~ Leviticus 24:1 = 25 (44) 8

And YHWH spake unto Moses, saying,


6) Verse 6896 = 29 ~ Judges 13:11 = 24 (53) 8

And Manoah arose, and went after his wife, and came to the man, and said unto him, Art thou the man that spakest unto the woman? And he said, I am.


7) Verse 13792 = 22 ~ Job 37:22 = 59 (81)

Fair weather cometh out of the north: with God is terrible majesty.


8) 27584 = 26 = 8 ~ Acts 18:26 = 44 = 8 (70)

And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.


9)

10)


~~~

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Search Verse 1-31102
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Ok, no more here, I am free from contributing to this thread.

Here is Wisdom, Let him that hath understanding count the number...

:fire:
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Let him that hath understanding...

Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six.
Rev 13:18

Where is wisdom? Is it in my mind, your mind? To an extent... to the extent we have scripture in our mind.

The Scripture is wisdom. The Bible is Wisdom. Let him who has understanding of SCRIPTURE calculate the number. The number is the number of a man. What man in scripture is associated with 666? The only reference in the Bible to a man and the number 666 is where? Who is it?
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The simple things, are, in this life divine, but

thrill the mortal soul does seek. Not conscious of

the passing time, nor of the earth beneath it's

feet.

It rushes on to folly shown, which fell from heaven

up above. Defeat is all it ever knows, because it

rejects the Saviors love.

A humbled heart on conscience part, is shown the

error in their way; of evil men with evil heart

that fall as victim to Satanic sway.

The signs are there, the way well lit, for those of

us with eyes to see. Yet in darkness, others,

stumble blindly past, ere, this should never be.

I would save them if I could, but I can't even save

myself. O my God, in all Your Glory, I thank you

and Jesus for His help. (Os76)
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Ok, no more here, I am free from contributing to this thread.

Here is Wisdom, Let him that hath understanding count the number...

:fire:
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[link to 666beast.net] AS it is explained in the link, to me is a better fit.


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that's a very large pile of pure BS in your link
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Then there appear to be those who do not know, but who think that they know. They are dangerous. Avoid them. - God
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I will remove any more gematria posts from this thread.
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Ok, no more here, I am free from contributing to this thread.

Here is Wisdom, Let him that hath understanding count the number...

:fire:
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Let him that hath understanding...

Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six.
Rev 13:18

Where is wisdom? Is it in my mind, your mind? To an extent... to the extent we have scripture in our mind.

The Scripture is wisdom. The Bible is Wisdom. Let him who has understanding of SCRIPTURE calculate the number. The number is the number of a man. What man in scripture is associated with 666? The only reference in the Bible to a man and the number 666 is where? Who is it?
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Must be true if it came from a book of fiction written by a bunch of control freaks.
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Fire purifies.

The silversmith knows when the silver has been purified because he can see His image in it.

God does the same thing. He is a consuming fire that burns away the dross.
"God made the heavens and the earth. It is up to man to create his own personal hell." Rob Serling

"Every man is two men; one is awake in the darkness, the other asleep in the light." Khalil Gibran
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Fire purifies.

The silversmith knows when the silver has been purified because he can see His image in it.

God does the same thing. He is a consuming fire that burns away the dross.
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Sounds elitist don't you think. Playing this game of righteousness, dross? Where could you possible have got the idea some souls are better than others given you are in the same boat.

That's the doctrine of an elitist system, if I'm not mistaken.
'sat chit ananda rupeya krishneya'
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The shit is about to hitteth the fan. Kisseth thine ass goodbye.

Thus saith the Lord.
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Fire purifies.

The silversmith knows when the silver has been purified because he can see His image in it.

God does the same thing. He is a consuming fire that burns away the dross.
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Sounds elitist don't you think. Playing this game of righteousness, dross? Where could you possible have got the idea some souls are better than others given you are in the same boat.

That's the doctrine of an elitist system, if I'm not mistaken.
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All people are not the same. All are sinners, but some recognize that and have accepted salvation because they hate sin. Others revel in their sin. They encourage others to sin. They take advantage of other people. They rob, rape, steal, cheat. They do anything they want because the only thing that is right for them is their will, their desire.

These two types of people will be separated, and dealt with accordingly. If you bought a bag of apples and half of them were visibly rotten, and half were just fine, would you throw the whole bag away? Would you keep the whole bag? No, the obvious answer is you would throw away the rotten ones and keep the good ones. This was part of the mission of Christ. He came so people can decide which kind of person they are. We were created with free will, and we have free choice.

It is this simple, but people like yourself seek to complicate this to justify your love of your sinful self.

You have made your choice to reject salvation. You still have time to change your mind.
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Re: I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?
Fire purifies.

The silversmith knows when the silver has been purified because he can see His image in it.

God does the same thing. He is a consuming fire that burns away the dross.
 Quoting: Conchord


Sounds elitist don't you think. Playing this game of righteousness, dross? Where could you possible have got the idea some souls are better than others given you are in the same boat.

That's the doctrine of an elitist system, if I'm not mistaken.
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All people are not the same. All are sinners, but some recognize that and have accepted salvation because they hate sin. Others revel in their sin. They encourage others to sin. They take advantage of other people. They rob, rape, steal, cheat. They do anything they want because the only thing that is right for them is their will, their desire.

These two types of people will be separated, and dealt with accordingly. If you bought a bag of apples and half of them were visibly rotten, and half were just fine, would you throw the whole bag away? Would you keep the whole bag? No, the obvious answer is you would throw away the rotten ones and keep the good ones. This was part of the mission of Christ. He came so people can decide which kind of person they are. We were created with free will, and we have free choice.

It is this simple, but people like yourself seek to complicate this to justify your love of your sinful self.

You have made your choice to reject salvation. You still have time to change your mind.
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I'd suggest to you that you are naive, you have no idea of the qualities of my personality or how spiritual it is. Let me elucidate.

God doesn't make bad apples, your analogy is flawed. As it your conception of God. You seem to believe he has all the nasty traits of humans, that he seeks vengeance, that he only loves a selected group, his 'followers'.

Can you see the problem with this? I doubt it, I have a feeling you can't get past the dogma. You are trying to sell me a lie you bought. My soul is just fine, it knows about the true nature of things and doesn't presume to be anything other than humble where humility is due, which btw is in the light of the truth. Something you haven't grasped yet as you cling to the bible.

I don't need to pray for any soul as I know they are all safe in Gods hands, I know there is balance and what you see as suffering is just the karma we made for ourselves on the journey. That's Gods justice, right in front of you to see.

All I see here in is elitism from bible bashers without a coherent argument and little knowledge of the nature of the truth

I'm glad you remembered God but you forgot to look at every facet of him on the journey, to peel all the layers away, there is but one god, he has many names. Isn't each one of those names worth examining with your heart for the consistency rather than the differences, each one glorifies him. Widen your knowledge of the truth, maybe instead of wearing the manipulation out.
'sat chit ananda rupeya krishneya'
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How does crap like this get pinned?
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Re: I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?
Said some 2000 years ago. Can you say outdated?
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It is prophecy for our present time.
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LOL according your logic .... was the prophecy not valid anytime for the last 2000 years, not just the last week?

You christtards are dumbed down terribly.
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hesright
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Re: I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?
And god created earth, and he was pleased with his creation.

And he delighted in his creation of beauty and pain, his perfect duality.

But then the souls started making progress in their evolution.

Then they started to dabble in technology which led to a greater contrast in material vs spiritual.

and in this wonderful progression, god was angered and said ')#(*(*$ !!!!! now DIE!!!


the end
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Re: I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?
wait wait wait ... I mean

make sure you tithe 10% of everything for salvation ..


then end.
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Said some 2000 years ago. Can you say outdated?
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That's not even a whole blip. Can you say fool?
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Must be true if it came from a book of fiction written by a bunch of control freaks.
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So, that is your opinion.

What is your opinion on Agenda 2030 goals.

Enslavement of humanity by a bunch of control freaks, or do you endorse it?

Just curious.

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wait wait wait ... I mean

make sure you tithe 10% of everything for salvation ..


then end.
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Jesus did away with Tithes on the cross, among other things, like animal sacrifice.

The tithe was the Levite wage.

When Jesus died and was subsequently resurrected, HE became High Priest of the Order of MELCHIZEDEK. No man can approach God except they go through Him first. This also did away with the LEVITE order. Thus no tithe.

NOR ARE WE TO SELL THE WORD OF GOD EVER FOR PAY.

He made intercession for the sin of all mankind by His perfect sacrifice. HOWEVER, once saved always saved is a false teaching, because scripture says that only those who keep the Commandments of God and the Faith of Jesus are Saints.





GLP