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Heads up! Aluminum shortage here.

 
Catnip

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I went into the Wal Mart in Princeton NJ earlier. When I went down the aisle with soda on one side and bottled drinks on the other, there was a Pepsi vendor standing there looking at the shelves which were half empty in front of him.

I asked if Pepsi is having supply problems and he said "yes, they can't get aluminum now".

I realize we can live without soda cans. But for many of us there are all kinds of aluminum products that might be good to stock up on. Foil, disposable pans.

A great deal of manufacturing relies on aluminum parts. Our terrible action in outsourcing aluminum manufacture to China is just one more thing that is going to bite us for months at a minimum, along with meds and so many other items.
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I guess its because of fencing. Lots of people getting fences built or barricades being built.
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Aluminum also keeps 5G out. It can't penetrate aluminum.
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How am I going to make my hat?
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get an armadillo hat
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It's gotta be foil...Tards told me so!
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use lead foil
1,000x more effective than aluminum
oh hai!
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Trump's buddy who they claim interferred in election for him

supposedly assassinated over 100 people in the gang wars for control of Russian aluminum businesses. the people who write these stories tend to disappear so it's hard to confirm.

this is his yacht

[youtube] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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vvvWWWvvv's clear agendas are clear.
Motherfucking welfare collecting pile of shit (vvvWWWvvv) on GLP 24/7 wasting his life away hating.



Do you mean from 2003?
The deal that made a Russian oligarch
Nick Kochan reveals how Roman Abramovich became a member of Moscow's elite - so rich that he bought Chelsea with small change
[link to www.theguardian.com (secure)]


You mean from 2011?
Abramovich tells of role in aluminium wars
[link to www.independent.co.uk (secure)]

Abramovich Says He Feared Russia’s Murderous Aluminum Trade
[link to www.bloomberg.com (secure)]


You mean from 2012?
[link to www.europeanceo.com (secure)]
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Re: Heads up! Aluminum shortage here.
How am I going to make my hat?
 Quoting: Mental Case


get an armadillo hat
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14364611


It's gotta be foil...Tards told me so!
 Quoting: Mental Case

use lead foil
1,000x more effective than aluminum
 Quoting: Red John


Copper mesh / Chicken wire. I have it in the walls, ceiling and under the floor of my master bedroom.
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Re: Heads up! Aluminum shortage here.
I read somewhere that if all the aluminium that was out there was always recycled there would be no need to mine any more bauxite.
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Re: Heads up! Aluminum shortage here.
Trump's buddy who they claim interferred in election for him

supposedly assassinated over 100 people in the gang wars for control of Russian aluminum businesses. the people who write these stories tend to disappear so it's hard to confirm.

this is his yacht

[youtube] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79009262




vvvWWWvvv's clear agendas are clear.
Motherfucking welfare collecting pile of shit (vvvWWWvvv) on GLP 24/7 wasting his life away hating.



Do you mean from 2003?
The deal that made a Russian oligarch
Nick Kochan reveals how Roman Abramovich became a member of Moscow's elite - so rich that he bought Chelsea with small change
[link to www.theguardian.com (secure)]


You mean from 2011?
Abramovich tells of role in aluminium wars
[link to www.independent.co.uk (secure)]

Abramovich Says He Feared Russia’s Murderous Aluminum Trade
[link to www.bloomberg.com (secure)]


You mean from 2012?
[link to www.europeanceo.com (secure)]
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I don't mean he personally assassinated 100 people, that's what antifa and BLM is for

it's incredible how retarded Americans have no idea that's show they got control of all your US corporations as well.

corporate raiders are invading soldiers, economic terrorists who make your senators kneel before them, literally
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Re: Heads up! Aluminum shortage here.
So tins and tin foil aren't tin? There is a conspiracy here.
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Re: Heads up! Aluminum shortage here.
Trump's buddy who they claim interferred in election for him

supposedly assassinated over 100 people in the gang wars for control of Russian aluminum businesses. the people who write these stories tend to disappear so it's hard to confirm.

this is his yacht

[youtube] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79009262




vvvWWWvvv's clear agendas are clear.
Motherfucking welfare collecting pile of shit (vvvWWWvvv) on GLP 24/7 wasting his life away hating.



Do you mean from 2003?
The deal that made a Russian oligarch
Nick Kochan reveals how Roman Abramovich became a member of Moscow's elite - so rich that he bought Chelsea with small change
[link to www.theguardian.com (secure)]


You mean from 2011?
Abramovich tells of role in aluminium wars
[link to www.independent.co.uk (secure)]

Abramovich Says He Feared Russia’s Murderous Aluminum Trade
[link to www.bloomberg.com (secure)]


You mean from 2012?
[link to www.europeanceo.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79005826


yep

Mr Abramovich admitted it was perhaps not the most comfortable of settings, but pointed out: "The Gulstream G5, which was the jet that we used, was the cutting edge, very low pressure, very quiet jet, it was quite comfortable. And the Lanesborough Hotel [where they stayed] is a comfortable hotel; and, well, let's face it, London is a nice place."

The case continues.
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Re: Heads up! Aluminum shortage here.
Aluminum also keeps 5G out. It can't penetrate aluminum.
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Re: Heads up! Aluminum shortage here.
I went into the Wal Mart in Princeton NJ earlier. When I went down the aisle with soda on one side and bottled drinks on the other, there was a Pepsi vendor standing there looking at the shelves which were half empty in front of him.

I asked if Pepsi is having supply problems and he said "yes, they can't get aluminum now".

I realize we can live without soda cans. But for many of us there are all kinds of aluminum products that might be good to stock up on. Foil, disposable pans.

A great deal of manufacturing relies on aluminum parts. Our terrible action in outsourcing aluminum manufacture to China is just one more thing that is going to bite us for months at a minimum, along with meds and so many other items.
 Quoting: Prayandprepare000


Thank you for the heads-up! Aluminum foil is one of the biggies for preppers. You are right about foil pans.

Guys, some auto parts are aluminum, right? . . . . .
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Re: Heads up! Aluminum shortage here.
Trump's buddy who they claim interferred in election for him

supposedly assassinated over 100 people in the gang wars for control of Russian aluminum businesses. the people who write these stories tend to disappear so it's hard to confirm.

this is his yacht

[youtube] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79009262




vvvWWWvvv's clear agendas are clear.
Motherfucking welfare collecting pile of shit (vvvWWWvvv) on GLP 24/7 wasting his life away hating.



Do you mean from 2003?
The deal that made a Russian oligarch
Nick Kochan reveals how Roman Abramovich became a member of Moscow's elite - so rich that he bought Chelsea with small change
[link to www.theguardian.com (secure)]


You mean from 2011?
Abramovich tells of role in aluminium wars
[link to www.independent.co.uk (secure)]

Abramovich Says He Feared Russia’s Murderous Aluminum Trade
[link to www.bloomberg.com (secure)]


You mean from 2012?
[link to www.europeanceo.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79005826


yep

Mr Abramovich admitted it was perhaps not the most comfortable of settings, but pointed out: "The Gulstream G5, which was the jet that we used, was the cutting edge, very low pressure, very quiet jet, it was quite comfortable. And the Lanesborough Hotel [where they stayed] is a comfortable hotel; and, well, let's face it, London is a nice place."

The case continues.

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Don't forget... Trump called a lot of people "friends" to get his way.
It is clear on his flip-flopping back and forth depending on the NYC mayor and NYS governor.
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Re: Heads up! Aluminum shortage here.
Still no toilet paper or paper towels on the shelves here, that's over 3 months now. Last-mile supply issues should have been satisfied by now, there's something else going on. I don't know what, but there's something.
 Quoting: not-a-canadian


here in my neck of the woods in canada... i've heard a lot of suppliers and manufacturers are short of staff so pumping out the supply takes longer and shipping it also.

so they actively choose to supply the bigger chain stores before the smaller store chains and mom/pop shops..

hope this helps.

i found this out while at my local butcher.. they were getting shorted on the "round" cut of the cows because of staffing issues and the meat over here in canada is heavily centralized.... even slaughterhouses are centralized, gov' doesn't want to hire more inspectors so all the cows go through these now

so because of this... these places have been sending the |round| to the big chain stores first and giving the finger to all the butcher shops. they were lucky if they would get 1-2 every 2 weeks and my butcher shop is a big one in the area they supply all the nursing homes and school and many restaurants on top of it.
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Re: Heads up! Aluminum shortage here.
Completely FALSE info. There is no shortage. How do I know? I sell cans to wine, spirits, beverage and beer accts

There is such increased need for cans that the mfg for Pepsi is Crown and Cork mfg. They never have increased operations. And they are behind their capacity to produce. It's not aluminum shortage at all.
Ball corp increased operations and is doing fine with capacity. Pepsi just took the cheaper mfg to do a contract with. I have been moving cans from Cork and Crown to have Ball produce my orders for customers

It's the huge demand for anything and everything to go into cans
Production is beyond capacity for formats are 250ml and 187ml. Lead time is 1 year. Not due to aluminum but plant CAPACITY

19.2 are only ran every other month in Mexico. We do not even mfg this can format in the USA. So I suspect capacity will max out soon as Mexico is the only location for the entire US to produce these cans

Rest at ease. Aluminum is NOT the issue folks
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Re: Heads up! Aluminum shortage here.
Completely FALSE info. There is no shortage. How do I know? I sell cans to wine, spirits, beverage and beer accts

There is such increased need for cans that the mfg for Pepsi is Crown and Cork mfg. They never have increased operations. And they are behind their capacity to produce. It's not aluminum shortage at all.
Ball corp increased operations and is doing fine with capacity. Pepsi just took the cheaper mfg to do a contract with. I have been moving cans from Cork and Crown to have Ball produce my orders for customers

It's the huge demand for anything and everything to go into cans
Production is beyond capacity for formats are 250ml and 187ml. Lead time is 1 year. Not due to aluminum but plant CAPACITY

19.2 are only ran every other month in Mexico. We do not even mfg this can format in the USA. So I suspect capacity will max out soon as Mexico is the only location for the entire US to produce these cans

Rest at ease. Aluminum is NOT the issue folks
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06/08/2020 05:50 PM
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No worries. Michigan was only able to start taking their cans back again recently. Have a backlog of 3 months worth of beer cans to return. I'm sure others do too.
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Re: Heads up! Aluminum shortage here.
Trump's buddy who they claim interferred in election for him

supposedly assassinated over 100 people in the gang wars for control of Russian aluminum businesses. the people who write these stories tend to disappear so it's hard to confirm.

this is his yacht

[youtube] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79009262




vvvWWWvvv's clear agendas are clear.
Motherfucking welfare collecting pile of shit (vvvWWWvvv) on GLP 24/7 wasting his life away hating.



Do you mean from 2003?
The deal that made a Russian oligarch
Nick Kochan reveals how Roman Abramovich became a member of Moscow's elite - so rich that he bought Chelsea with small change
[link to www.theguardian.com (secure)]

that's what the wiki leaks and Snowden leaks are about

they use the NSA surveillance to carry out these hits, get control of all the corporations, conquer them.

then they totally shit on the employees and treat them like cattle, fire them move the company to Bangladesh

they aren't businessmen they are gangsters like Trump, they don't know jack shit about business but they know how to murder people, Trump knows how to borrow $3 billion and not pay it back, i'll tell you it's not because he's a businessman it's because he's an assassin, just like he assassinated Iran's leader, now he's in on bioweapons attacks on China.

You mean from 2011?
Abramovich tells of role in aluminium wars
[link to www.independent.co.uk (secure)]

Abramovich Says He Feared Russia’s Murderous Aluminum Trade
[link to www.bloomberg.com (secure)]


You mean from 2012?
[link to www.europeanceo.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79005826



that's what the wiki leaks and Snowden leaks are about

they use the NSA surveillance to carry out these hits, get control of all the corporations, conquer them.

then they totally shit on the employees and treat them like cattle, fire them move the company to Bangladesh

they aren't businessmen they are gangsters like Trump, they don't know jack shit about business but they know how to murder people, Trump knows how to borrow $3 billion and not pay it back, i'll tell you it's not because he's a businessman it's because he's an assassin, just like he assassinated Iran's leader, now he's in on bioweapons attacks on China.


they absolutely hate the working man, they have absolutely no respect for working class, they would take people with COVID and put them into nursing homes to kill them all to save money on Medicaid/medicare, the US is now run by war gangsters

they would kill all of you if you let them
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Re: Heads up! Aluminum shortage here.
Trump's buddy who they claim interferred in election for him

supposedly assassinated over 100 people in the gang wars for control of Russian aluminum businesses. the people who write these stories tend to disappear so it's hard to confirm.

this is his yacht

[youtube] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79009262




vvvWWWvvv's clear agendas are clear.
Motherfucking welfare collecting pile of shit (vvvWWWvvv) on GLP 24/7 wasting his life away hating.



Do you mean from 2003?
The deal that made a Russian oligarch
Nick Kochan reveals how Roman Abramovich became a member of Moscow's elite - so rich that he bought Chelsea with small change
[link to www.theguardian.com (secure)]


You mean from 2011?
Abramovich tells of role in aluminium wars
[link to www.independent.co.uk (secure)]

Abramovich Says He Feared Russia’s Murderous Aluminum Trade
[link to www.bloomberg.com (secure)]


You mean from 2012?
[link to www.europeanceo.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79005826


yep

Mr Abramovich admitted it was perhaps not the most comfortable of settings, but pointed out: "The Gulstream G5, which was the jet that we used, was the cutting edge, very low pressure, very quiet jet, it was quite comfortable. And the Lanesborough Hotel [where they stayed] is a comfortable hotel; and, well, let's face it, London is a nice place."

The case continues.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79009262



Don't forget... Trump called a lot of people "friends" to get his way.
It is clear on his flip-flopping back and forth depending on the NYC mayor and NYS governor.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79005826


Trump is a phemomena, a mystery , he of course can swim with the whale sharks but i think when he sees how much so many ordinary people love him he tends to honestly want to do right by them. of course he can't really make a real enemy out of the gangsters and stay in power, so it's a pretty fine line to walk and he seems to do it amazingly well, supernatural
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Re: Heads up! Aluminum shortage here.
It is a can shortage - not an aluminum shortage. With so many not going out beer and soda sales in cans have skyrocketed. This was the same last year for the slim cans because of the seltzer rise and Diet Coke flavors going to slim cans,
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Re: Heads up! Aluminum shortage here.
Completely FALSE info. There is no shortage. How do I know? I sell cans to wine, spirits, beverage and beer accts

There is such increased need for cans that the mfg for Pepsi is Crown and Cork mfg. They never have increased operations. And they are behind their capacity to produce. It's not aluminum shortage at all.
Ball corp increased operations and is doing fine with capacity. Pepsi just took the cheaper mfg to do a contract with. I have been moving cans from Cork and Crown to have Ball produce my orders for customers

It's the huge demand for anything and everything to go into cans
Production is beyond capacity for formats are 250ml and 187ml. Lead time is 1 year. Not due to aluminum but plant CAPACITY

19.2 are only ran every other month in Mexico. We do not even mfg this can format in the USA. So I suspect capacity will max out soon as Mexico is the only location for the entire US to produce these cans

Rest at ease. Aluminum is NOT the issue folks
 Quoting: Bowhuntress 60842567


It's the huge demand for anything and everything to go into cans

Is that just from all the extra stocking up?

What other things besides beer and soda come in the cans you are talking about? Food items?

Thanks for posting.
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How am I going to make my hat?
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Aluminum foil does not work.

Tin foil is absolutely required.
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Plane and Weapon materials.
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I work at a Machine Shop that makes parts for commercial and Military Planes ... haven't seen any shortage yet but will keep an eye out ... We use a lot of Aluminum ...
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Still no toilet paper or paper towels on the shelves here, that's over 3 months now. Last-mile supply issues should have been satisfied by now, there's something else going on. I don't know what, but there's something.
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hesright
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People don't even pick up aluminum cans anymore for the CRV value (10¢). I see ten along the road every day.
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Plane and Weapon materials.
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This, im a Wal-Mart cashier in n.e. Alabama and about 6-7 weeks ago one of my regular customers that works for the dept of defense told me that she's working a ton..required overtime...making missiles, bombs....war is coming....ww3
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Still no toilet paper or paper towels on the shelves here, that's over 3 months now. Last-mile supply issues should have been satisfied by now, there's something else going on. I don't know what, but there's something.
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hesright
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We have plenty of everything at my store in my area, n.e. Alabama. No shortage of pop cans either in our isles
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How am I going to make my hat?
 Quoting: Mental Case


You should already have one to match every outfit.

What's wrong with you????!!!!!

I am so disappointed.
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I know I know...I procrastinate :(
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Bullshit!bsflagI just ordered and received 10 aluminum plates 4x6 @ 1/4 thick. The price was even the same as it has been the last 6 months.
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A sudden surge in off-premises consumption of beer has led to a surprise shortage of the cans across the country.

Breweries in Jacksonville — and around the country — deal with shortage of 'crowlers'
[link to www.bizjournals.com (secure)]




Don’t Let COVID-19 Kill American Industry: Bring Back the Aluminum Strategic Stockpile
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Analysts: Aluminum Market Will See Shortage By End Of Year
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Coronavirus To Burst Another Bubble? Carbonation Shortage Threatens Seltzer, Beer And Soda
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How am I going to make my hat?
 Quoting: Mental Case


Aluminum foil does not work.

Tin foil is absolutely required.
 Quoting: Denizen Deplorable 2020


Can you get tin foil any more? 1dunno1
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