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BRIEF User ID: 39607259 United States 06/11/2020 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is quite the conundrum...sorta like how would you breath without lungs? If you were never created, then you would not exist, therefore God the creator must exist in some form... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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The Semi Shut In User ID: 11085375 United States 06/11/2020 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You will have to explain how for thousands of years how saints,mystics,spiritual masters have experienced supernal states of consciousness that touch the hem of the lords garment. There's no measuring the super sensible with the five senses or instruments in laboratories. It's way beyond logic, reason, imagination and ego. Sometimes I'm in the world but not of it and Sometimes I'm of the world but not in it. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79020391 Croatia 06/11/2020 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You will have to explain how for thousands of years how saints,mystics,spiritual masters have experienced supernal states of consciousness that touch the hem of the lords garment. Quoting: The Semi Shut In There's no measuring the super sensible with the five senses or instruments in laboratories. It's way beyond logic, reason, imagination and ego. True. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79020391 Croatia 06/11/2020 01:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is nothing logical about starting from the premise that absolutely nothing created the entire mass lf the universe and with no cause. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73606357 Yet that is what is being proposed.All created things arise from intelligent design. Be reasonable. Pleiadians from Taygeta star system has their belief: Most Earth humans live in delusion, created by misguided teachings. It is unfortunate that, by illogical thinking, we ignore the great knowledge that we are born with. When the Earth human learns of the great power and knowledge within his spiritual subconscious he will begin to help people come into the world with the right kind of teaching and guidance to allow a human to live a fruitful and happy life. In order for us to perceive how it is possible that we are a part of Creation, we must first understand what Creation is. In the Pleiadian worlds, if you were to attend one of their schools or read their books you would find the following understanding of the concept of Creation. A Universe is a material thing created from an idea of Creation, which is the spiritual energy that contains the intelligence and knowledge to make it. It is necessary for Creation to make a Universe as part of its process of evolution. Our Universe is contained inside of a very large Universe called the Absolutum, by the Pleiadians. It is believed that we share this Absolutum along with 10 to the 49th power (10 with 49 zeros), number of other Universes,. Each one is separated by thick bands of spiritual energy called push belts. Each Creation has a cycle of life which evolves continually. The current Creation that we live in is believed to be on a cycle of life that will last 311,040,000,000,000 years. We presently are in the 47 trillionth year of that cycle. This has been established through the technology of the Pleiadians by benefit of their ability to travel in time to research the facts. The cycle of the material Universe, is to expand outward and then to contract back into itself. The current cycle of the Creation will last 311 trillion, 40 billion years and then it will sleep an equal amount of time. There is an original Creation that helps create all other Creations. Once a Creation has finished its cycle and has come back together in perfect harmony, it then creates the spiritual energy (thought) that becomes the next Creation. First, the new Creation is only a thought. It has reason and understanding. It reasons until it has cognition of its next step. Creation is already setting a pattern of spiritual growth through cognition. Creation then creates the space where the new Creation will exist. Next, the Sohar, which is the expansion of the thought into a gigantic ball of spiritual energy, fills the area where the Universe will evolve within this spiritual energy. Then the Sohar evolves to a point of evolution where it is possible to create the material belt within the Universe where life will grow. There is a spiral pattern of energy which moves through Creation where waves of time travel causes the animation of the material existence. This spiral causes the rotation of the galaxies, movement and pulsation. Creation then has to reason out how to develop its life forms so it can continue its own spiritual growth. Flora is then created so there will be food. The Fauna, the animal kingdom, is responsible for the evolution of the coarse matter of our bodies. Once the animal kingdom has evolved the coarse body material to a level of evolution that is high enough it is possible for the spirits of human life to come into material body. Man then begins the material life cycles and evolves Creation to perfection through the spiritual energies created by each spirit forms growth. Our Earth is presently 626 billion years old dating back to the gas ball from which it evolved from. The average Earth human spirit form is 80 - 100 million years old. This dates from the first material lifetime. It is your choice to come into the spirit form as either man or woman based on the lessons you need to learn and the path of accumulated knowledge you have created. We do not evolve from the animal kingdom but owe a debt of thanks to the animal kingdom for evolving the coarse matter for our bodies. We cannot exist in material form until the body matter is evolved high enough to be in balance with our spiritual energy. As man goes through his many material lives with Creation he will develop through seven primary steps of evolution. More on: [link to www.semjase.net (secure)] |
BRIEF User ID: 39607259 United States 06/11/2020 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is quite the conundrum...sorta like how would you breath without lungs? Quoting: BRIEF If you were never created, then you would not exist, therefore God the creator must exist in some form... That holds some keys to unlock the Pandora's box. But probably we will never know for sure. St. Thomas Aquinas proved, using exhaustive and perfect logic, that not only does God exist immortally, but He must also be good... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79018645 United Kingdom 06/11/2020 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | apparently one we don't fully understand. Is there a meaning for it all, take into account memory, a sound, a smell, a noise such as a child crying can trigger a deja vu moment in your past, love, hate, loyalty, it's endless does it all count, or are we just a evolutionary chance, our planet is just the right distance and conditions from our star to enable life to take hold, I don't know, your guess is as good if not better than mine? |
Funney User ID: 79015631 Czechia 06/11/2020 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is nothing logical about starting from the premise that absolutely nothing created the entire mass lf the universe and with no cause. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73606357 Yet that is what is being proposed.All created things arise from intelligent design. Be reasonable. [youtube] Yes, in this line of thought, many think, not believe, that is is life, the main inteligence, pure enegies, in other names, souls, with avaliable sources of materials, plants, animals, humans all in an order one after one as a growing flower.. to experience and guide the evolution as if at first hand experinced... the value is important for a biological brain for storing information ..building the "picture"..reality but it did not go as planned as we see, many influences along the way shaped it as it is now, survival |