Hello angry Christians!

You are throwing pearls before the swine.

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What a peculiar man, thinking a Real Christian is after him. No Real Christian would tell him he is going to hell. Only God and Jesus Christ has that right. Of course his decisions
will play a big part in what happens, I don't know what that will be.

I wish him well.

Hm, guess we never really had many "real christians" throughout the ages. Anyway, you dumb cow, your fake piety does not change the fact that you are a child refusing to abandon your empty belief in Santa Clause.

A Real Christian knows there is no such thing as hell... The abyss is where wicked spirits go...

Multiple atheists, sharing their NDE's of seeing hell, and Jesus.
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After the experiences, they became believers, and converted Christianity.

It's called brain damage.

Seems like a possible explanation.

But, here's why this isn't correct, for many of the NDEs.

Many times, now, people, during their NDEs, saw things in the environment, or learned of information, from deceased people while in heaven. This information, was at times, previously unknown, and impossible to know about. After returning to their bodies, the information, was researched and verified to be true down to the exact details. This shows, the experience was not merely a hallucination.

Thats right.

Works much the same way as a familiar sprit at a seance works.

After all..THEY know all the little details having been around those people from birth to death.

Thus the "Familiar" part.

They would have NO problem passing "Unkowable" details on to DMT trippers.

Deception is not called decpetion because it does NOT decieve.

Well if so, theses 'familiar' spirits, from these experiences, had brought atheists, satanists, hindus, muslims, and more, to accepting Jesus.

"Test the spirits."

Hogwash and pseudoscience with a religious bias. It's not hard to find subjects for that, with the amount of deluded fucks in this shit society.

So can you provide proof, that an alive conscious entity, came from lifeless matter (aka abiogenesis), as believed by atheists?

How the fuck did this dinosaur post from 2007 get bumped with all the shit that is going on?

WTF! oh... and AC Aussie.... WTG!

Yeah they might have brought them to jesus.

But which ONE??

The one who really loves them.

Or the one who ONLY loves them so long as they love him first and if they dont he will burn them alive forever.

If its the second one..the evil blackmailing jesus..then yeah..its a deception.

Its worked too.

THATS wy its called DECEPTION.

Don't you think it's time you updated your photo? We don't care about what you looked like 40 years ago.

They greatly changed their life around, became more loving, helpful to others, and more, however, they still believe in a God that's both loving and just, which does include hell as a punishment.

Let me ask you a question.

In a past post, you stated, I believe that you would save a couple of people during the tribulation.

What exactly are you saving them from? If God, is like what New agers state, than, all will be saved, and you won't have to save those two people during the tribulation. So, what exactly are you saving them from?

If God, is like what New Agers state, there would be no tribulation, no judgement, and Jesus wouldn't have even needed to die for us.

I know how you feel, this, an eternal hell, is hard for me to come to terms with, but, I rather seek truth, even though it may be terrifying, than settle for a feel good lie.

Creationist rethoric 101. [link to en.wikipedia.org] . Not conclusive proof ofc, and you will naturally reject it, but sure gives a better explanation than Santa Claus created teh world herp derp.
Anyway, what are you trying to argue for? We know you religious idiots are unable to see reason, we know you are comfortable with your silly little lies. No need to prove the depth of your delusion, noone doubts your limited cognitive abilities.

1) Finding, NDE's that veridical information is quite difficult. Do you even know what veridical means?

2) You already attributed the NDE's to 'brain damage', so you obviously never came across an NDE, that does contain veridical info.

3) You prematurely reject info, before even examining it.

This will ensure, you remain ignorant, and based your conclusion, that life came from lifeless matter, which has zero proof.

There is no information. Just psychotic claims. Focus on semantics all you want, it does not change the fact that you believe in primitive lies and fables one iota.

These 'psychotic claims' are researched by medical doctors and PhDs, and have been published in a peer reviewed journal.

Of course, don't even objectively examine it, before making a conclusion. This will ensure you remain ignorant.

One angry little atheist here trying to shove his philosophy down others throats with his condescending & hostile attitude.

If I did not know better, I would think he was a fundie evangelical -- as this is precisely how they behave.

Handled any snakes lately, little atheist???

Most of these studies have been using ECG's to label someone clinically dead. There are almost no studies using EEG's. So, thank you very much, you can shove your biased studies where the sun don't shine.
And ignorant? Ignorant of what? The pathetic superstitions of a primitive culture of cultists? Thank you, I'm good with that.

Why would I not be condescending? There is no cult deserving respect. And if you are a believer, you are a deluded asshole that deserves nothing but contempt. Cry me a river.

Prove your philosophy is not a fairy tale.

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Regardless if it does, or not, veridical[/b,] not just regular NDEs, but veridical NDE's are unexplainable, even if there is, or isn't brainwave activities.

No...not angry about that and DON'T want ANYBODY to go to hell!

why would this guy have anything to worry about , he wouldn tknow what a soul was if you hit him over the head with one.

Please don't speak of being 'objective' when you repeatedly ONLY post about NDE's pertaining to 'hell' and 'Jesus' in your effort to recruit people to your particular religious faith. You continually neglect all accounts that do not support your cause.

Here's a 'medical doctor' (Dr. Sam Parnia) who is recognized as one of the world's leading experts in this field of study and explains how their scientific findings & investigations demonstrate that each individual brings his/her unique & individualized level of conscious awareness and 'level of thought' with him or her into the other dimension and how this influences what that individual experiences during these NDE's. This proves there is no universal 'reality' to this phenomena because the individual's unique level of consciousness/awareness/thoughts is influencing & affecting what is experienced.

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It is you who will also remain 'ignorant' as long as you continue to try and convince people that your cherry-picked NDE accounts are somehow indicative of a Universal 'reality' that they can expect to experience. You have ZERO knowledge of the soul/consciousness/energy of another individual and you can never know this information.

That fact coupled with your limited understanding of this phenomena puts you in no position to be trying to convince others what will happen to them when it's their time to go - yet you continue to try and do so. The objective Doctors & Scientists who study this phenomena for a living would never be so ignorant as to try and push an agenda on others and tell them what they will experience based on some superficial designation of 'atheist' or (insert any other label here).

You do a disservice to yourself and to others through your attempts to make an 'appeal to a higher authority' in your campaign to change their belief system through your selective reporting of NDE accounts and your failure to explain to them all the other accounts which do not support your individual perspective and preferred belief system.

Yea, there's a lot of postive NDEs, that support a heavenly realm.

The Bible also speaks of heaven.

There's a a lot of negative NDEs, that support a hellish realm.

The Bible also speaks of hell.

The latter types of NDE's, is what you and nearly all new agers ignore.

I examine both.