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The irony that is CHAZ: Nolte: This CHAZ Idea Is Growing on Me, very very valid point

 
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The irony that is CHAZ: Nolte: This CHAZ Idea Is Growing on Me, very very valid point
This whole CHAZ idea is starting to grow on me. Border walls. High-capacity weapons. Federal and state governments no longer exist. A neighborhood in charge of itself, creating its own laws, its own mores, its own economic and justice system. The left like it. The media freakin’ love it. If you think about it, what’s not to like?

As I write this, Black Lives Matter and Antifa have created their own confederacy and seceded from the union with the establishment of a Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone, or CHAZ, right in the heart of Seattle. They have seized six city blocks, built border walls, and are running around with guns in a community that reflects their values and their desire to live their lives in the way they choose to live their lives.

This includes high-capacity weapons and vigilante groups that punish vandalism with a good, sound beating
.

The best part is that the CHAZ residents are refusing to allow “biased media” to enter their country. That sounds like paradise to me.

As far as I know, anyone who wishes to exit the Seattle CHAZ is allowed to exit the CHAZ, so what’s the harm? If you want to live under a warlord, you can live under a warlord.

Obviously, there are some issues here. Within the CHAZ you have about 500 residences, people who might not want to be part of the CHAZ. You also have property owners who are probably a little worried — and for good reason.

But is this really the worst idea in the world?

I’m not calling for armed insurrection or anything, but let’s be adults for a second and talk about the concept…

I don’t know anyone on the left or right who isn’t fed up with the one-size-fits-all madness coming out of Washington DC, the courts, and state governments.

The left is frustrated and angry over abortion restrictions, laws that allow corporations to donate money to political campaigns, and voter ID. What’s more, they want guns, the police, prisons, and charter schools outlawed and pot legalized. They want green energy, CEO pay limited, more socialism, lockdowns during pandemics, speech restrictions, and biological men to be allowed to compete in women’s sports. What the left resents more than anything is having their lives shaped by executive orders signed by Donald Trump and whichever way Clarence Thomas votes.

The left believe in centralized authority.

On the other side, there’s the right, who oppose abortion, public schools, and the war on their sacred religious rights being waged by the sexual revolution. We want to hunt, fish, worship, judge people based on their personal character as opposed to identity… We want a colorblind society with unlimited speech and artistic freedom, as well as a level playing field that allows everyone to achieve as much personal freedom, wealth, and success as their hard work will allow.

The right believe in individual liberty within the framework of “live and let live” and the Ten Commandments.

Does a workable CHAZ not sound like a possible solution to this massive cultural divide?

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very valid point


To me it sounds very much like the left is wanting what the constitution is supposed to be any way , they have gone so far left the ARE BACK TOTHE CONSTITUTION AND TO DUMB TO SEE THE IRONY

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THE SAME PEOPLE WHO SAID NO GUNS BECAUSE OF POLICE NOW WANT TO DEFUND THE POLICE!!!!

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They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth."

Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake.

Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.-
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Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that . - MR Smith Goes To Washington-

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Re: The irony that is CHAZ: Nolte: This CHAZ Idea Is Growing on Me, very very valid point
The USA is already built to work that way, it doesn't need rearranged to get people what they desire. We need people who understand the system we have in place to take part in it. If our schools worked even a little bit, most of the black lives matter and antifa crowd would be politicians, possibly respectable and electable. Of course rape and murder will never be on the menu.
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Re: The irony that is CHAZ: Nolte: This CHAZ Idea Is Growing on Me, very very valid point
that is why i stated the irony of it and they have gone so far left they are back to the right and the constitution.


They are too stupid to realize that.


the founding fathers wanted freedom to be as close to anarchy with civility and control ..


i am not supporting a bunch of riotous soros funded goons, just saying they dont realize how close they are to what the constitution was supposed to be and that Nolte has an interesting free thought point of view he is offering
Coastie Patriot
SIC SEMPER TYRRANIS

THE SAME PEOPLE WHO SAID NO GUNS BECAUSE OF POLICE NOW WANT TO DEFUND THE POLICE!!!!

Dr Thaddeus They
They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth."

Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake.

Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.-
X Files: Lost art of Forehead Sweat

A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.
-SHANE-

Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that . - MR Smith Goes To Washington-

to grow up remembering th

My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!!

Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales
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Re: The irony that is CHAZ: Nolte: This CHAZ Idea Is Growing on Me, very very valid point
Two wrongs don't make a right but three lefts do
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Re: The irony that is CHAZ: Nolte: This CHAZ Idea Is Growing on Me, very very valid point
I like it. I want my own country. Pretty please.
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Re: The irony that is CHAZ: Nolte: This CHAZ Idea Is Growing on Me, very very valid point
Interesting, you know when I was a kid, parents used break up fights and say that we should settle things like grown ups, in peaceful understanding manner. Also as a kid however, I didn't need much law or government to know how to behave, I'd say when I was a freshman in highschool I already knew what it was to "behave" and would only goof around at most.

Yet somehow, GLP and this entire adult populous is seriously demanding police babysitters some rules because "grown-ups"
are a bunch of kids?!

You have to understand that, I had previously judged myself to be measured beneath the "responsible" people who made these laws and systems which I never thought would be made by people who needed them for their own sake. I had thought that because the passed and enforced...

Here's the thing, I know I can live in a society with limited government, without police, with the ability to respect each other because we simply do. As as flawed as I thought "I" was fixing my "flaws" would be a cakewalk apparently in comparison to your inability to live as normal as big family that you would think "society" should hope to be.

So my faith is with CHAZ doing what CHAZ does, they have what they have if it isn't enough then by now the year 2020 then yeah my ideals probably would not work with this era and I'd sidestep outta political argument from now on.

What I do find incomprehensible is those who are not within Seattle trying/hoping that their own government or methods be what "should be happening". The whole point is that at this time we finally can see what should be worked on or done, and who are we as a people, how about some trust for your fellow americans.
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Re: The irony that is CHAZ: Nolte: This CHAZ Idea Is Growing on Me, very very valid point
that is why i stated the irony of it and they have gone so far left they are back to the right and the constitution.


They are too stupid to realize that.


the founding fathers wanted freedom to be as close to anarchy with civility and control ..


i am not supporting a bunch of riotous soros funded goons, just saying they dont realize how close they are to what the constitution was supposed to be and that Nolte has an interesting free thought point of view he is offering
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