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Trump called all journalists 'scumbags' who should be 'executed,' - from John Bolton's new book

 
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Trump called all journalists 'scumbags' who should be 'executed,' - from John Bolton's new book
Trump made the comments during a July 2019 meeting in New Jersey, where the Trump Organization owns a golf course and resort.

Bolton said that Trump, who has been extremely vocal about his displeasure with media coverage of his presidency, suggested that more journalists should be arrested and jailed so the government could compel them to reveal their sources.

"These people should be executed," Trump said in the meeting, according to Bolton. "They are scumbags."

The book paints Trump in an extremely unflattering light, with Bolton characterizing Trump as an irrational and unfit president, especially on matters of national security and foreign policy, which was Bolton's area of expertise in the administration.

Bolton's book contains several bombshell allegations about Trump's erratic foreign policy strategy and deference to foreign authoritarians, including asking Chinese President Xi Jinping to buy up lots of American agriculture products to benefit American farmers (and thus, Trump's re-election) and telling Xi that keeping concentration camps for Uighur Muslims was "exactly the right thing to do."

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Abe Lincoln said the same thing.
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Re: Trump called all journalists 'scumbags' who should be 'executed,' - from John Bolton's new book
Abe Lincoln said the same thing.
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so did communist leaders in china

funny you now support communist policies to silence and execute the free press
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Re: Trump called all journalists 'scumbags' who should be 'executed,' - from John Bolton's new book
Obama said the same thing.
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Obama said the same thing.
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link?
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Abe Lincoln said the same thing.
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link?
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Re: Trump called all journalists 'scumbags' who should be 'executed,' - from John Bolton's new book
Hes said this before.

Not a revelation.

Not sure why the cultist don't believe Bolton.
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Abe Lincoln said the same thing.
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Show us a link where Lincoln called all journalists 'scumbags' who should be 'executed,' - from John Bolton's new book".

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Re: Trump called all journalists 'scumbags' who should be 'executed,' - from John Bolton's new book
Abe Lincoln said the same thing.
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Show us a link where Lincoln called all journalists 'scumbags' who should be 'executed'.

Do you really think anyone here believes your made up bullshit any more?
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Jakes News bullshit is hitting an all time deep with that one.

Your Guru is having a really shitty day today, isn't he?
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Re: Trump called all journalists 'scumbags' who should be 'executed,' - from John Bolton's new book
None of that is new

I want a book about the fact he wears diapers because his sphincters are destroyed from years of stimulant abuse.


There's a reason everyone working with him as to sign a NDA. His closet is so full of skeleton it's fucking catacombs
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Re: Trump called all journalists 'scumbags' who should be 'executed,' - from John Bolton's new book
If he really said that, he's not far from truth.

My father used to say "journalists are scumbags", when I was young. At the time, I thought that it was a somewhat crazy thing to say. But oh boy, was he right!
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Re: Trump called all journalists 'scumbags' who should be 'executed,' - from John Bolton's new book
Abe Lincoln said the same thing.
 Quoting: Jake


Show us a link where Lincoln called all journalists 'scumbags' who should be 'executed,' - from John Bolton's new book".

Do you really think anyone here believes your made up bullshit any more?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78804845


for public safety during the Civil War, President Abraham Lincoln and his generals used
prerogative powers to restrict freedom of expression. A number of
citizens disputed the denials of their rights. Their responses raised
many issues such as violations of the U.S. Constitution, the need of
voters to have information, and the hardships, errors, and inconsistencies of the enforcement. Confronted with the consequences of
suppression, the president sometimes relented or implemented more
lenient policies. The decisions tested the principles of one man and
a nation.
Despite the “no law” wording of the First Amendment’s
guarantee of freedom of speech and of the press, expression has been restricted in wartime by federal statutes
and presidential-military orders. The basis for denying the right to
disseminate news and opinions typically has been the claim that the
“higher law” of self-preservation supersedes the
Constitution.1
During the Civil War, journalists
were hindered in newsgathering and were arrested for publishing opinions. Telegraph dispatches
were censored and editors were given instructions on what could or could not be published.
Some newspapers were excluded from the mail
and some publications were shut down. President Abraham Lincoln and his generals asserted a need to prohibit
information and ideas they claimed could imperil the Union cause,
but the suppression, which could conceal embarrassing facts and
stifle democratic dissent, had a price. Northern critics condemned
the restraints as despotic and Southern leaders were able to exploit
Lincoln’s Other War:
Public Opinion, Press Issues,
and Personal Pleas
By Jeffery A. Smith


A
[link to ocean.otr.usm.edu]
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Re: Trump called all journalists 'scumbags' who should be 'executed,' - from John Bolton's new book
Abe Lincoln said the same thing.
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so did communist leaders in china

funny you now support communist policies to silence and execute the free press
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79042067


hesright

America is fucked since it doesn't exclude all the blaks, gews and other non-white LGBT people like the founding fathers fought and warned about
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Re: Trump called all journalists 'scumbags' who should be 'executed,' - from John Bolton's new book
If he really said that, he's not far from truth.

My father used to say "journalists are scumbags", when I was young. At the time, I thought that it was a somewhat crazy thing to say. But oh boy, was he right!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79039980


Mussolini and Hitler also hated free press


All authoritarian leaders do
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Re: Trump called all journalists 'scumbags' who should be 'executed,' - from John Bolton's new book
Abe Lincoln said the same thing.
 Quoting: Jake


Show us a link where Lincoln called all journalists 'scumbags' who should be 'executed,' - from John Bolton's new book".

Do you really think anyone here believes your made up bullshit any more?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78804845


for public safety during the Civil War, President Abraham Lincoln and his generals used
prerogative powers to restrict freedom of expression. A number of
citizens disputed the denials of their rights. Their responses raised
many issues such as violations of the U.S. Constitution, the need of
voters to have information, and the hardships, errors, and inconsistencies of the enforcement. Confronted with the consequences of
suppression, the president sometimes relented or implemented more
lenient policies. The decisions tested the principles of one man and
a nation.
Despite the “no law” wording of the First Amendment’s
guarantee of freedom of speech and of the press, expression has been restricted in wartime by federal statutes
and presidential-military orders. The basis for denying the right to
disseminate news and opinions typically has been the claim that the
“higher law” of self-preservation supersedes the
Constitution.1
During the Civil War, journalists
were hindered in newsgathering and were arrested for publishing opinions. Telegraph dispatches
were censored and editors were given instructions on what could or could not be published.
Some newspapers were excluded from the mail
and some publications were shut down. President Abraham Lincoln and his generals asserted a need to prohibit
information and ideas they claimed could imperil the Union cause,
but the suppression, which could conceal embarrassing facts and
stifle democratic dissent, had a price. Northern critics condemned
the restraints as despotic and Southern leaders were able to exploit
Lincoln’s Other War:
Public Opinion, Press Issues,
and Personal Pleas
By Jeffery A. Smith


A
[link to ocean.otr.usm.edu]
 Quoting: Jake


Many spent the entire length of the war in federal prison
Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance!

Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes."
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Re: Trump called all journalists 'scumbags' who should be 'executed,' - from John Bolton's new book
Abe Lincoln said the same thing.
 Quoting: Jake


Show us a link where Lincoln called all journalists 'scumbags' who should be 'executed,' - from John Bolton's new book".

Do you really think anyone here believes your made up bullshit any more?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78804845


for public safety during the Civil War, President Abraham Lincoln and his generals used
prerogative powers to restrict freedom of expression. A number of
citizens disputed the denials of their rights. Their responses raised
many issues such as violations of the U.S. Constitution, the need of
voters to have information, and the hardships, errors, and inconsistencies of the enforcement. Confronted with the consequences of
suppression, the president sometimes relented or implemented more
lenient policies. The decisions tested the principles of one man and
a nation.
Despite the “no law” wording of the First Amendment’s
guarantee of freedom of speech and of the press, expression has been restricted in wartime by federal statutes
and presidential-military orders. The basis for denying the right to
disseminate news and opinions typically has been the claim that the
“higher law” of self-preservation supersedes the
Constitution.1
During the Civil War, journalists
were hindered in newsgathering and were arrested for publishing opinions. Telegraph dispatches
were censored and editors were given instructions on what could or could not be published.
Some newspapers were excluded from the mail
and some publications were shut down. President Abraham Lincoln and his generals asserted a need to prohibit
information and ideas they claimed could imperil the Union cause,
but the suppression, which could conceal embarrassing facts and
stifle democratic dissent, had a price. Northern critics condemned
the restraints as despotic and Southern leaders were able to exploit
Lincoln’s Other War:
Public Opinion, Press Issues,
and Personal Pleas
By Jeffery A. Smith


A
[link to ocean.otr.usm.edu]
 Quoting: Jake


So if I read correctly your quote, it was a bad, antidemocratic idea.

Your point?
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If he really said that, he's not far from truth.

My father used to say "journalists are scumbags", when I was young. At the time, I thought that it was a somewhat crazy thing to say. But oh boy, was he right!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79039980


Mussolini and Hitler also hated free press[/b]


All authoritarian leaders do
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78282459


"Free press"!


lmao


Most so-called "journalists" are not really journalists, to start with. They are political activists or operatives, or intelligence services agents.

You're very gullible, aren't you? "Free press"? Where's the free press? It's all a joke.
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Re: Trump called all journalists 'scumbags' who should be 'executed,' - from John Bolton's new book
Abe Lincoln said the same thing.
 Quoting: Jake


Show us a link where Lincoln called all journalists 'scumbags' who should be 'executed,' - from John Bolton's new book".

Do you really think anyone here believes your made up bullshit any more?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78804845


for public safety during the Civil War, President Abraham Lincoln and his generals used
prerogative powers to restrict freedom of expression. A number of
citizens disputed the denials of their rights. Their responses raised
many issues such as violations of the U.S. Constitution, the need of
voters to have information, and the hardships, errors, and inconsistencies of the enforcement. Confronted with the consequences of
suppression, the president sometimes relented or implemented more
lenient policies. The decisions tested the principles of one man and
a nation.
Despite the “no law” wording of the First Amendment’s
guarantee of freedom of speech and of the press, expression has been restricted in wartime by federal statutes
and presidential-military orders. The basis for denying the right to
disseminate news and opinions typically has been the claim that the
“higher law” of self-preservation supersedes the
Constitution.1
During the Civil War, journalists
were hindered in newsgathering and were arrested for publishing opinions. Telegraph dispatches
were censored and editors were given instructions on what could or could not be published.
Some newspapers were excluded from the mail
and some publications were shut down. President Abraham Lincoln and his generals asserted a need to prohibit
information and ideas they claimed could imperil the Union cause,
but the suppression, which could conceal embarrassing facts and
stifle democratic dissent, had a price. Northern critics condemned
the restraints as despotic and Southern leaders were able to exploit
Lincoln’s Other War:
Public Opinion, Press Issues,
and Personal Pleas
By Jeffery A. Smith


A
[link to ocean.otr.usm.edu]
 Quoting: Jake


So if I read correctly your quote, it was a bad, antidemocratic idea.

Your point?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78282459


Yeah It was a bad Idea, I agree, but modern day press is not the free press.

It is corporate owned propaganda.

If the Left did responsible journalism covering both sides of the story and not their own personal Agenda.

I would be all for them.
Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance!

Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes."
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Re: Trump called all journalists 'scumbags' who should be 'executed,' - from John Bolton's new book
If he really said that, he's not far from truth.

My father used to say "journalists are scumbags", when I was young. At the time, I thought that it was a somewhat crazy thing to say. But oh boy, was he right!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79039980


Mussolini and Hitler also hated free press[/b]


All authoritarian leaders do
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78282459


"Free press"!


lmao


Most so-called "journalists" are not really journalists, to start with. They are political activists or operatives, or intelligence services agents.

You're very gullible, aren't you? "Free press"? Where's the free press? It's all a joke.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79039980


So, only state-sanctioned propaganda is allowed?

No free market of ideas?

You sound like a communist
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Re: Trump called all journalists 'scumbags' who should be 'executed,' - from John Bolton's new book
Abe Lincoln said the same thing.
 Quoting: Jake


Show us a link where Lincoln called all journalists 'scumbags' who should be 'executed,' - from John Bolton's new book".

Do you really think anyone here believes your made up bullshit any more?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78804845


for public safety during the Civil War, President Abraham Lincoln and his generals used
prerogative powers to restrict freedom of expression. A number of
citizens disputed the denials of their rights. Their responses raised
many issues such as violations of the U.S. Constitution, the need of
voters to have information, and the hardships, errors, and inconsistencies of the enforcement. Confronted with the consequences of
suppression, the president sometimes relented or implemented more
lenient policies. The decisions tested the principles of one man and
a nation.
Despite the “no law” wording of the First Amendment’s
guarantee of freedom of speech and of the press, expression has been restricted in wartime by federal statutes
and presidential-military orders. The basis for denying the right to
disseminate news and opinions typically has been the claim that the
“higher law” of self-preservation supersedes the
Constitution.1
During the Civil War, journalists
were hindered in newsgathering and were arrested for publishing opinions. Telegraph dispatches
were censored and editors were given instructions on what could or could not be published.
Some newspapers were excluded from the mail
and some publications were shut down. President Abraham Lincoln and his generals asserted a need to prohibit
information and ideas they claimed could imperil the Union cause,
but the suppression, which could conceal embarrassing facts and
stifle democratic dissent, had a price. Northern critics condemned
the restraints as despotic and Southern leaders were able to exploit
Lincoln’s Other War:
Public Opinion, Press Issues,
and Personal Pleas
By Jeffery A. Smith


A
[link to ocean.otr.usm.edu]
 Quoting: Jake


hey jake remember when you said trump only ONCE gave the clintons $1500?



"The Clinton Foundation lists Donald J. Trump as a contributor with a cumulative lifetime donation amount between $100,001 to $250,000. It’s not clear if Trump himself made a personal contribution, but tax forms show that the Donald J. Trump Foundation (which Trump controls) donated $100,000 to the foundation in 2009 and reserved a table at the Clinton Foundation gala for $10,000 in 2010.

Trump’s daughter Ivanka is also listed as a donor who gave between $5,001 and $10,000 and her father-in-law, Charles Kushner, gave between $250,001 and $500,000.

Trump’s gift amount places him in the top 0.2 percent of the foundation’s donors. Most of its 300,000 donors (85.5 percent) gave less than $250.
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Well, He ain't wrong
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Re: Trump called all journalists 'scumbags' who should be 'executed,' - from John Bolton's new book
Abe Lincoln said the same thing.
 Quoting: Jake


so did communist leaders in china

funny you now support communist policies to silence and execute the free press
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79042067


the 'free press' lol you mean the ones all run by the same people and speak vertbatim every single issue? the same ones caught lying over and over and pushing the same agenda nonstop?

the same free press that admitted tells people what to think. the same free press that labels anything contrary to their narrative racist, and tried to get it banned or hidden?

the media are the communists and your concern fagging is noted bitch.
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Re: Trump called all journalists 'scumbags' who should be 'executed,' - from John Bolton's new book
If he really said that, he's not far from truth.

My father used to say "journalists are scumbags", when I was young. At the time, I thought that it was a somewhat crazy thing to say. But oh boy, was he right!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79039980


Mussolini and Hitler also hated free press


All authoritarian leaders do
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You are interpreting a world that you don't know according to stereotypes coming from a past world and concepts that you know, or you suppose you know. It just doesn't work.
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...


Show us a link where Lincoln called all journalists 'scumbags' who should be 'executed,' - from John Bolton's new book".

Do you really think anyone here believes your made up bullshit any more?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78804845


for public safety during the Civil War, President Abraham Lincoln and his generals used
prerogative powers to restrict freedom of expression. A number of
citizens disputed the denials of their rights. Their responses raised
many issues such as violations of the U.S. Constitution, the need of
voters to have information, and the hardships, errors, and inconsistencies of the enforcement. Confronted with the consequences of
suppression, the president sometimes relented or implemented more
lenient policies. The decisions tested the principles of one man and
a nation.
Despite the “no law” wording of the First Amendment’s
guarantee of freedom of speech and of the press, expression has been restricted in wartime by federal statutes
and presidential-military orders. The basis for denying the right to
disseminate news and opinions typically has been the claim that the
“higher law” of self-preservation supersedes the
Constitution.1
During the Civil War, journalists
were hindered in newsgathering and were arrested for publishing opinions. Telegraph dispatches
were censored and editors were given instructions on what could or could not be published.
Some newspapers were excluded from the mail
and some publications were shut down. President Abraham Lincoln and his generals asserted a need to prohibit
information and ideas they claimed could imperil the Union cause,
but the suppression, which could conceal embarrassing facts and
stifle democratic dissent, had a price. Northern critics condemned
the restraints as despotic and Southern leaders were able to exploit
Lincoln’s Other War:
Public Opinion, Press Issues,
and Personal Pleas
By Jeffery A. Smith


A
[link to ocean.otr.usm.edu]
 Quoting: Jake


So if I read correctly your quote, it was a bad, antidemocratic idea.

Your point?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78282459


Yeah It was a bad Idea, I agree, but modern day press is not the free press.

It is corporate owned propaganda.

If the Left did responsible journalism covering both sides of the story and not their own personal Agenda.

I would be all for them.
 Quoting: Jake


The only media Trump considers OK is OANN which is the most biased propaganda outlet in existence in the US.

Sorry but Trump doesn't want free press either.
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Show us a link where Lincoln called all journalists 'scumbags' who should be 'executed,' - from John Bolton's new book".

Do you really think anyone here believes your made up bullshit any more?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78804845


for public safety during the Civil War, President Abraham Lincoln and his generals used
prerogative powers to restrict freedom of expression. A number of
citizens disputed the denials of their rights. Their responses raised
many issues such as violations of the U.S. Constitution, the need of
voters to have information, and the hardships, errors, and inconsistencies of the enforcement. Confronted with the consequences of
suppression, the president sometimes relented or implemented more
lenient policies. The decisions tested the principles of one man and
a nation.
Despite the “no law” wording of the First Amendment’s
guarantee of freedom of speech and of the press, expression has been restricted in wartime by federal statutes
and presidential-military orders. The basis for denying the right to
disseminate news and opinions typically has been the claim that the
“higher law” of self-preservation supersedes the
Constitution.1
During the Civil War, journalists
were hindered in newsgathering and were arrested for publishing opinions. Telegraph dispatches
were censored and editors were given instructions on what could or could not be published.
Some newspapers were excluded from the mail
and some publications were shut down. President Abraham Lincoln and his generals asserted a need to prohibit
information and ideas they claimed could imperil the Union cause,
but the suppression, which could conceal embarrassing facts and
stifle democratic dissent, had a price. Northern critics condemned
the restraints as despotic and Southern leaders were able to exploit
Lincoln’s Other War:
Public Opinion, Press Issues,
and Personal Pleas
By Jeffery A. Smith


A
[link to ocean.otr.usm.edu]
 Quoting: Jake


So if I read correctly your quote, it was a bad, antidemocratic idea.

Your point?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78282459


Yeah It was a bad Idea, I agree, but modern day press is not the free press.

It is corporate owned propaganda.

If the Left did responsible journalism covering both sides of the story and not their own personal Agenda.

I would be all for them.
 Quoting: Jake


but you have no problem with the right only covering one side of the story and their own personal agenda

got it

when the left does it, it is bad journalism
when the right does it, it is good journalism
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Abe Lincoln said the same thing.
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so did communist leaders in china

funny you now support communist policies to silence and execute the free press
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79042067


the 'free press' lol you mean the ones all run by the same people and speak vertbatim every single issue? the same ones caught lying over and over and pushing the same agenda nonstop?

the same free press that admitted tells people what to think. the same free press that labels anything contrary to their narrative racist, and tried to get it banned or hidden?

the media are the communists and your concern fagging is noted bitch.
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but you are fine with right wing MSM like fox and OAN

got it

MSM is bad if it is left, but MSM is cool if right
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Abe Lincoln said the same thing.
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Show us a link where Lincoln called all journalists 'scumbags' who should be 'executed,' - from John Bolton's new book".

Do you really think anyone here believes your made up bullshit any more?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78804845


for public safety during the Civil War, President Abraham Lincoln and his generals used
prerogative powers to restrict freedom of expression. A number of
citizens disputed the denials of their rights. Their responses raised
many issues such as violations of the U.S. Constitution, the need of
voters to have information, and the hardships, errors, and inconsistencies of the enforcement. Confronted with the consequences of
suppression, the president sometimes relented or implemented more
lenient policies. The decisions tested the principles of one man and
a nation.
Despite the “no law” wording of the First Amendment’s
guarantee of freedom of speech and of the press, expression has been restricted in wartime by federal statutes
and presidential-military orders. The basis for denying the right to
disseminate news and opinions typically has been the claim that the
“higher law” of self-preservation supersedes the
Constitution.1
During the Civil War, journalists
were hindered in newsgathering and were arrested for publishing opinions. Telegraph dispatches
were censored and editors were given instructions on what could or could not be published.
Some newspapers were excluded from the mail
and some publications were shut down. President Abraham Lincoln and his generals asserted a need to prohibit
information and ideas they claimed could imperil the Union cause,
but the suppression, which could conceal embarrassing facts and
stifle democratic dissent, had a price. Northern critics condemned
the restraints as despotic and Southern leaders were able to exploit
Lincoln’s Other War:
Public Opinion, Press Issues,
and Personal Pleas
By Jeffery A. Smith


A
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hey jake remember when you said trump only ONCE gave the clintons $1500?



"The Clinton Foundation lists Donald J. Trump as a contributor with a cumulative lifetime donation amount between $100,001 to $250,000. It’s not clear if Trump himself made a personal contribution, but tax forms show that the Donald J. Trump Foundation (which Trump controls) donated $100,000 to the foundation in 2009 and reserved a table at the Clinton Foundation gala for $10,000 in 2010.

Trump’s daughter Ivanka is also listed as a donor who gave between $5,001 and $10,000 and her father-in-law, Charles Kushner, gave between $250,001 and $500,000.

Trump’s gift amount places him in the top 0.2 percent of the foundation’s donors. Most of its 300,000 donors (85.5 percent) gave less than $250.
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You said political donations. remember at one time

most people thought the clinton foundation was legit.

We didnt find out it was a billion dollar scam until

Trump ran against them in 2015
Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance!

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for public safety during the Civil War, President Abraham Lincoln and his generals used
prerogative powers to restrict freedom of expression. A number of
citizens disputed the denials of their rights. Their responses raised
many issues such as violations of the U.S. Constitution, the need of
voters to have information, and the hardships, errors, and inconsistencies of the enforcement. Confronted with the consequences of
suppression, the president sometimes relented or implemented more
lenient policies. The decisions tested the principles of one man and
a nation.
Despite the “no law” wording of the First Amendment’s
guarantee of freedom of speech and of the press, expression has been restricted in wartime by federal statutes
and presidential-military orders. The basis for denying the right to
disseminate news and opinions typically has been the claim that the
“higher law” of self-preservation supersedes the
Constitution.1
During the Civil War, journalists
were hindered in newsgathering and were arrested for publishing opinions. Telegraph dispatches
were censored and editors were given instructions on what could or could not be published.
Some newspapers were excluded from the mail
and some publications were shut down. President Abraham Lincoln and his generals asserted a need to prohibit
information and ideas they claimed could imperil the Union cause,
but the suppression, which could conceal embarrassing facts and
stifle democratic dissent, had a price. Northern critics condemned
the restraints as despotic and Southern leaders were able to exploit
Lincoln’s Other War:
Public Opinion, Press Issues,
and Personal Pleas
By Jeffery A. Smith


A
[link to ocean.otr.usm.edu]
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So if I read correctly your quote, it was a bad, antidemocratic idea.

Your point?
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Yeah It was a bad Idea, I agree, but modern day press is not the free press.

It is corporate owned propaganda.

If the Left did responsible journalism covering both sides of the story and not their own personal Agenda.

I would be all for them.
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but you have no problem with the right only covering one side of the story and their own personal agenda

got it

when the left does it, it is bad journalism
when the right does it, it is good journalism
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Do you ever watch Fox news?? Half their reporters are registered democrats
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Abe Lincoln said the same thing.
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And followed through on it in a way. Just not executions.
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If he really said that, he's not far from truth.

My father used to say "journalists are scumbags", when I was young. At the time, I thought that it was a somewhat crazy thing to say. But oh boy, was he right!
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Mussolini and Hitler also hated free press[/b]


All authoritarian leaders do
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"Free press"!


lmao


Most so-called "journalists" are not really journalists, to start with. They are political activists or operatives, or intelligence services agents.

You're very gullible, aren't you? "Free press"? Where's the free press? It's all a joke.
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So, only state-sanctioned propaganda is allowed?

No free market of ideas?

You sound like a communist
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Maybe I sound like a communist (to you) but I'm not. You sound like a very gullible person and very probably you are.

There's no free market. States are dissolving. We have corporations much more powerful than states. This is not the same world you knew. The common left/right paradigm is past and does not work anymore.
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If he really said that, he's not far from truth.

My father used to say "journalists are scumbags", when I was young. At the time, I thought that it was a somewhat crazy thing to say. But oh boy, was he right!
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Mussolini and Hitler also hated free press


All authoritarian leaders do
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You are interpreting a world that you don't know according to stereotypes coming from a past world and concepts that you know, or you suppose you know. It just doesn't work.
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All I see is Trump hates the media because they dissect most of his lies.

It's possible they are biased, but it doesn't change the fact Trump is the US president who lies the most in all of history.

Without that press, America become a fascist regime (it's only ones step away from it)


Also it's funny the right is always whining about freedom of speech, but when it's someone they disagree with, they say they should be executed.


Tells a lot...





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