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ridiculous reporting on the why there were empty seats... many folks guessing

posted this inside another post about it but felt it needed to stand on its own as well

first-hand accounting of the rally below:

"I WANT TO SHOW YOU HOW THE MEDIA LIES - The Tulsa Trump Rally.

Jeannie and I had reserved tickets to attend the rally. Although somewhat chaotic with people driving by yelling obscenities at us as we walked, a mean mug or two and a fight or two breaking out around us, everything wasn't actually that bad. However, finding a gate entrance was quite the task...nothing was clarified - and NO..no protesters were blocking entrances. We finally found how to get in. At the exact moment we approached the first barrier (police tape) there were police lined up at the tape and at the opening we were greeted by the Secret service or contract military (not sure who they were) at 6:05 p.m. who told us, along with a multitude of others at our gate (there was three seperate entrance gates at various locations) that we could not enter. We asked why? They said that the BOK had reached its capacity and the temperature checkers had left prematurely and acted pretty smug about it which I thought was strange. Some who waited with us said they had friends on the inside who text and told them that there were still many empty seats available. So, we waited at the police tape entrance dumb founded for 20 minutes until the police line started backing up and went through a 10 foot fence and chained and locked the gate. No other explanation. Further, no one was even allowed into the jumbotron area to watch it outside. We walked with a man on our way back to our car, who was on the inside but decided to leave, who also said that there were many more seats available. This is the absolute first hand truth. So, we drove home to watch what was left of the rally on tv to see many empty seats in the background and hear nothing but lies from reporters who reported that the Trump rally didn't have the turnout that they expected inside and no one even turned out to rally outside to watch the jumbotron (which is exactly what a supporter waiting with us said the media would say). Nothing but lies! We were lied to! They locked a multitude of us out! They even reported that Trump was surprised at the low turnout. If I can get a message to the President, I will tell him how they duped him at this rally and how he is getting played by those who surround him."
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Its funny, at about 6:30 pm, I looked at CNN and they it was a very small crowd trickling in, 20,000 tops. i bet biden couldn't get 5000 at a time like this with the virus.
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lot's of replies to the fake reporting; the reasons for "empty seats" et al but first-hand accounts get next to nothing ??

this site is becoming just as guilty of sensationalism as the msm

folks should be fucking pissed, i don't get it- temperature takers left early, gates were locked prematurely, some reported access to those gates being difficult to get to due to protestors being in the way... then the msm reports that support for Trump is waning- whatever

this shit is not ok, you get that right?
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This is what people do when they know they are going to lose. The Democrats think in their minds that this will change the outcome of the election and it won't.

They will have a myriad of excuses in Nomember when Biden loses.
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So, what she's saying is this was a concerted effort by local government police, or whoever was in charge, to block people from entering.

This is scary on so many levels that there is a deep, dark entity in America that is threatening and keeping us from going to events, and voting for who we want to.

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So, what she's saying is this was a concerted effort by local government police, or whoever was in charge, to block people from entering, I believe this could be true since the governor was trying to shut it down anyways, all liars.

This is scary on so many levels that there is a deep, dark entity in America that is threatening and keeping us from going to events, and voting for who we want to.
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OK's Governor, Kevin Stitt, was in no way trying to shut this rally down- not sure where you got that info but it's totally incorrect.
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So, what she's saying is this was a concerted effort by local government police, or whoever was in charge, to block people from entering, I believe this could be true since the governor was trying to shut it down anyways, all liars.

This is scary on so many levels that there is a deep, dark entity in America that is threatening and keeping us from going to events, and voting for who we want to.
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OK's Governor, Kevin Stitt, was in no way trying to shut this rally down- not sure where you got that info but it's totally incorrect.
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I will try to find story, but someone was trying to stop him, and then they backed down.

SO, who do you think gave the orders for the police to shut it down, because that's what basically happened.
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I see here that he did not block Trump, but there was something in the media about it, and then a few days later it changed, not sure what it was about, but maybe it was fake news, so I will take that back, but clearly someone in the government was blocking people from getting in, because it was the police stopping these people.

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So, what she's saying is this was a concerted effort by local government police, or whoever was in charge, to block people from entering, I believe this could be true since the governor was trying to shut it down anyways, all liars.

This is scary on so many levels that there is a deep, dark entity in America that is threatening and keeping us from going to events, and voting for who we want to.
 Quoting: Keilani


OK's Governor, Kevin Stitt, was in no way trying to shut this rally down- not sure where you got that info but it's totally incorrect.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62881528


I will try to find story, but someone was trying to stop him, and then they backed down.

SO, who do you think gave the orders for the police to shut it down, because that's what basically happened.
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i think, based on what i've read, that the temperature takers stationed at the entrances left before they were supposed to (orchestrated or not i do not know) so they could not guarantee that anyone entering after they left was not running a temperature; putting the folks already inside and any others entering afterwards at risk.

this makes some sense in the interest of safety but it's pretty suspicious that they left before the venue was to capacity.

you may be thinking about the Governor looking for an alternate venue due to preliminary numbers of those thought to be wanting to attend (1M+). But, those numbers were also inflated due to a few different theories- one being the TikTok App where teens reserved tons of tickets while never intending to show up only to make it look like a poor turnout as compared to the numbers expected (see link)

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With a Pandemic, Riots I doubt I would go right now and I’ve gone to all in local areas.

Not a big deal. Only Bernie ever came close to even this rally.
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lot's of replies to the fake reporting; the reasons for "empty seats" et al but first-hand accounts get next to nothing ??

this site is becoming just as guilty of sensationalism as the msm

folks should be fucking pissed, i don't get it- temperature takers left early, gates were locked prematurely, some reported access to those gates being difficult to get to due to protestors being in the way... then the msm reports that support for Trump is waning- whatever

this shit is not ok, you get that right?
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I went to CPAC in 2019 in DC. It starts on a Wednesday afternoon and concludes on Saturday. It's held at a large hotel, where we stayed, and all speeches are in a convention hall. I think the hall was on the 3rd floor accessed by escalators and elevators.

The hall was not guarded until Friday. We were free to enter and leave all day. When VP Pence spoke on Friday, it was so different!

We were already in that hall, with seats, early that morning. We had friends saving our seats when we left the hall briefly. Upon returning to see Pence speak, everything was changed! Secret service was everywhere. Metal detector booths were set up at the top of the escalators. We returned to find the doors to the hall locked and security guards standing there. It was ONE HOUR before Pence was to appear! The public were not warned in advance that this would happen. ONE HOUR!

People were furious, including me. I was lucky to see a woman guide with a VIP group approach a guard. She opened the door for them...a group of around 15 people. I pretended I was a member of the group and walked in with them. lol

So...what I found out that day is that security is VERY TIGHT when the vice president and president appear. Always enter a facility or rally over one hour just to be safe.

On Saturday, President Trump spoke around noon. We were sitting in that hall at 6am...lol. He was amazing to see!

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So, what she's saying is this was a concerted effort by local government police, or whoever was in charge, to block people from entering, I believe this could be true since the governor was trying to shut it down anyways, all liars.

This is scary on so many levels that there is a deep, dark entity in America that is threatening and keeping us from going to events, and voting for who we want to.
 Quoting: Keilani


OK's Governor, Kevin Stitt, was in no way trying to shut this rally down- not sure where you got that info but it's totally incorrect.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62881528


I will try to find story, but someone was trying to stop him, and then they backed down.

SO, who do you think gave the orders for the police to shut it down, because that's what basically happened.
 Quoting: Keilani


i think, based on what i've read, that the temperature takers stationed at the entrances left before they were supposed to (orchestrated or not i do not know) so they could not guarantee that anyone entering after they left was not running a temperature; putting the folks already inside and any others entering afterwards at risk.

this makes some sense in the interest of safety but it's pretty suspicious that they left before the venue was to capacity.

you may be thinking about the Governor looking for an alternate venue due to preliminary numbers of those thought to be wanting to attend (1M+). But, those numbers were also inflated due to a few different theories- one being the TikTok App where teens reserved tons of tickets while never intending to show up only to make it look like a poor turnout as compared to the numbers expected (see link)

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Yeah, the temperature takers leaving all sounds EXTREMELY suspicious, so diabolical what they are trying to do to our president, good thing G-d has got his back.

The Tik Tok thing is not a conspiracy, you would think it was, but that AOC woman flat out claimed they did it, and others on YouTube were bragging about buying up tickets to try to keep Trump supporters out or home. I truly hope she gets charged with tampering with an election with a foreign entity (TikTok is Chinese Communist Party owned).
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I went to CPAC in 2019 in DC. It starts on a Wednesday afternoon and concludes on Saturday. It's held at a large hotel, where we stayed, and all speeches are in a convention hall. I think the hall was on the 3rd floor accessed by escalators and elevators.

The hall was not guarded until Friday. We were free to enter and leave all day. When VP Pence spoke on Friday, it was so different!

We were already in that hall, with seats, early that morning. We had friends saving our seats when we left the hall briefly. Upon returning to see Pence speak, everything was changed! Secret service was everywhere. Metal detector booths were set up at the top of the escalators. We returned to find the doors to the hall locked and security guards standing there. It was ONE HOUR before Pence was to appear! The public were not warned in advance that this would happen. ONE HOUR!

People were furious, including me. I was lucky to see a woman guide with a VIP group approach a guard. She opened the door for them...a group of around 15 people. I pretended I was a member of the group and walked in with them. lol

So...what I found out that day is that security is VERY TIGHT when the vice president and president appear. Always enter a facility or rally over one hour just to be safe.

On Saturday, President Trump spoke around noon. We were sitting in that hall at 6am...lol. He was amazing to see!
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It is sad that here in America we now have to have this kind of security just to go to CPAC or anything else that is not part of the N W O agenda.
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well... i just hope this further motivates everyone to get out and vote. NOTHING can be taken for granted this Nov and almost anything will be attempted in order to keep him from being re-elected. it'll be hard to rig any election where record numbers of folks turn out.

this Nation is perilously close to the point of no return and we can't afford to let it slip away; encourage everyone you know to vote unless of course they want to see their communities start to look like Chicago, Seattle, NY, LA, SF, ATL et al...

also remember, the ENTIRE House of Representatives are up for re-election... make a statement.

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I went to CPAC in 2019 in DC. It starts on a Wednesday afternoon and concludes on Saturday. It's held at a large hotel, where we stayed, and all speeches are in a convention hall. I think the hall was on the 3rd floor accessed by escalators and elevators.

The hall was not guarded until Friday. We were free to enter and leave all day. When VP Pence spoke on Friday, it was so different!

We were already in that hall, with seats, early that morning. We had friends saving our seats when we left the hall briefly. Upon returning to see Pence speak, everything was changed! Secret service was everywhere. Metal detector booths were set up at the top of the escalators. We returned to find the doors to the hall locked and security guards standing there. It was ONE HOUR before Pence was to appear! The public were not warned in advance that this would happen. ONE HOUR!

People were furious, including me. I was lucky to see a woman guide with a VIP group approach a guard. She opened the door for them...a group of around 15 people. I pretended I was a member of the group and walked in with them. lol

So...what I found out that day is that security is VERY TIGHT when the vice president and president appear. Always enter a facility or rally over one hour just to be safe.

On Saturday, President Trump spoke around noon. We were sitting in that hall at 6am...lol. He was amazing to see!
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Yes,I’m surprised anyone would wait until 6:05 to enter. That’s what screwed them. Since the outdoor speech by Pence was scrapped, he went inside early and started speaking well before 7:00,and Trump started well before 8:00.
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I went to CPAC in 2019 in DC. It starts on a Wednesday afternoon and concludes on Saturday. It's held at a large hotel, where we stayed, and all speeches are in a convention hall. I think the hall was on the 3rd floor accessed by escalators and elevators.

The hall was not guarded until Friday. We were free to enter and leave all day. When VP Pence spoke on Friday, it was so different!

We were already in that hall, with seats, early that morning. We had friends saving our seats when we left the hall briefly. Upon returning to see Pence speak, everything was changed! Secret service was everywhere. Metal detector booths were set up at the top of the escalators. We returned to find the doors to the hall locked and security guards standing there. It was ONE HOUR before Pence was to appear! The public were not warned in advance that this would happen. ONE HOUR!

People were furious, including me. I was lucky to see a woman guide with a VIP group approach a guard. She opened the door for them...a group of around 15 people. I pretended I was a member of the group and walked in with them. lol

So...what I found out that day is that security is VERY TIGHT when the vice president and president appear. Always enter a facility or rally over one hour just to be safe.

On Saturday, President Trump spoke around noon. We were sitting in that hall at 6am...lol. He was amazing to see!
 Quoting: nutmeg


Yes,I’m surprised anyone would wait until 6:05 to enter. That’s what screwed them. Since the outdoor speech by Pence was scrapped, he went inside early and started speaking well before 7:00,and Trump started well before 8:00.
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YES! We learned something about security when the vice president and president are to appear at any event. You really can't be too early. You should have seen me asking Secret Service if they could let us in. They were very nice but said they couldn't. Thank goodness for that VIP group that allowed us to sneak back in. Apparently they were people who pay extra for the VIP benefits.....like a meeting with senators.

If there were warnings about locking doors, we missed them. There must have been a lot of complaints from people not being allowed to enter because I noticed flyers posted in all elevators on Friday night for Saturday, when President Trump was to speak. It told everyone what time the convention hall doors would be locked.

If you ever get a chance to attend CPAC in DC...go. It was wonderful!

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I went to CPAC in 2019 in DC. It starts on a Wednesday afternoon and concludes on Saturday. It's held at a large hotel, where we stayed, and all speeches are in a convention hall. I think the hall was on the 3rd floor accessed by escalators and elevators.

The hall was not guarded until Friday. We were free to enter and leave all day. When VP Pence spoke on Friday, it was so different!

We were already in that hall, with seats, early that morning. We had friends saving our seats when we left the hall briefly. Upon returning to see Pence speak, everything was changed! Secret service was everywhere. Metal detector booths were set up at the top of the escalators. We returned to find the doors to the hall locked and security guards standing there. It was ONE HOUR before Pence was to appear! The public were not warned in advance that this would happen. ONE HOUR!

People were furious, including me. I was lucky to see a woman guide with a VIP group approach a guard. She opened the door for them...a group of around 15 people. I pretended I was a member of the group and walked in with them. lol

So...what I found out that day is that security is VERY TIGHT when the vice president and president appear. Always enter a facility or rally over one hour just to be safe.

On Saturday, President Trump spoke around noon. We were sitting in that hall at 6am...lol. He was amazing to see!
 Quoting: nutmeg


It is sad that here in America we now have to have this kind of security just to go to CPAC or anything else that is not part of the N W O agenda.
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Another thing that changed on Friday for "added security" ….

Instead of just going up the escalator and walking into the area and the convention hall, they had us first filing into a huge room, and winding our way to another door. To exit that room, we were required to have added government photo ID's besides the registration issued photo ID cards around our necks.

We were all thinking that perhaps facial recognition cameras were in that room. We went through that same room on Saturday before riding the escalators up to the metal detectors and Secret Service everywhere.

This is what the convention hall looks like at CPAC. We were all the way down front. Got in line in that big room at 5am!
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Not surprised, sadly.

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Why didn’t we see all these people wrongly turned away at the door in the thousands outside the rally?
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So, what she's saying is this was a concerted effort by local government police, or whoever was in charge, to block people from entering, I believe this could be true since the governor was trying to shut it down anyways, all liars.

This is scary on so many levels that there is a deep, dark entity in America that is threatening and keeping us from going to events, and voting for who we want to.
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OK's Governor, Kevin Stitt, was in no way trying to shut this rally down- not sure where you got that info but it's totally incorrect.
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Agreed 100% - our Republican Gov. Stitt would never shut down a Trump rally. Any information to that is a blatant liberal media lie.
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The governor had nothing to do with it.

Arena staff are all union...and typically democrat.

They simply walked off the job to keep people from getting in.

Simple and effective with complete deniability "there were no more people to let in" they would say later when questioned.

You guys still don't get it. The ONLY ones playing by the "rules" are us. You can't win that way.
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This will backfire and the next rally will be yuge
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This will backfire and the next rally will be yuge
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I doubt Trump has the cojones to call another rally for a while after the terrible turnout in Tulsa.

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