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Couple point guns at woman accused of shoplifting
UPDATED: Mon.
, June 29, 2020 [link to www.spokesman.com (secure)]

Two people pointed handguns at a suspected shoplifter in the parking lot of a South Hill shopping center on Friday in actions that drew cautionary advice from police for people attempting to stop lawbreakers.

A video posted on Facebook shows a woman being held at gunpoint in her car by people who believed she stole from a store in the Manito Shopping Center on the South Hill, while they waited for police to arrive.

The video had been shared hundreds of times by Monday morning and been shared to other platforms like Reddit.

Annamarie L. Kirkpatrick, 36, was cited for shoplifting, a gross misdemeanor. Her boyfriend, who she mentions in the video, fled the scene and was not cited, said Officer John O’Brien with the Spokane Police Department.

A man and a woman drew their weapons because they suspected Kirkpatrick had stolen shoes from the nearby Rite Aid in the complex, according to Spokane resident Peter Trotta’s Friday post. Kirkpatrick was charged with shoplifting from the Ross in the shopping center, according to police.

In the video, an unidentified man can be seen holding a silver handgun and telling Kirkpatrick to “sit down” when she tried to stand up.

“Get your (expletive) in there and sit down,” the man said. “I am not a cop, I will (expletive) shoot you. I’m a Democrat. I can shoot you because Democrats get away with everything.”

The woman can be seen in the video holding what appears to be a blue handgun.

Preuninger said witnesses told police that Kirkpatrick and a male suspect ran out of a store in the Manito Shopping Center with bags of clothing. The man and woman saw them leave the store and believed the couple to be shoplifting. They pulled guns on Kirkpatrick and held her at gunpoint until police arrived.

Neither the man nor the woman with a gun were charged or cited with a crime, according to police.

Under Washington law, it is considered assault to threaten someone with physical harm if the person making threats seems to have the means and intent to cause threatened harm. In cases that don’t amount to assault under Washington law, any person who aims a firearm at a person, whether loaded or not, is guilty of a gross misdemeanor.

Also under Washington law, a private person can conduct a citizen’s arrest for a misdemeanor, if they saw the act themselves and the act constituted a breach of the peace.

After watching the video, local criminal defense lawyer Jeffry Finer said he was shocked the people with guns were not charged.

“Based on what I saw, it looked like these two people were assaulting a suspect who had not breached the peace and I don’t think what I saw constituted a proper citizen’s arrest,” Finer said. [@ 50% See vid and read further details here>>>>] [link to www.spokesman.com (secure)]
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Don't get me wrong.

I am happy we have vigilant citizens, but the video is chilling with regard to the way it was handled.

None the least to bring politics into what could have been a deadly encounter.

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After watching the video, local criminal defense lawyer Jeffry Finer said he was shocked the people with guns were not charged.

“Based on what I saw, it looked like these two people were assaulting a suspect who had not breached the peace and I don’t think what I saw constituted a proper citizen’s arrest,”
 Quoting: Osmium76



didn't this clown listen to the gun owner?

the gun owner was a Democrat and Democrats get away with everything.

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it's highly irrelevant how threatened you feel when cops arrest you.. so i don't see how it matters when someone who isn't a cop is making an arrest.

lol @ "im a democrat i can get away with anything"
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After watching the video, local criminal defense lawyer Jeffry Finer said he was shocked the people with guns were not charged.

“Based on what I saw, it looked like these two people were assaulting a suspect who had not breached the peace and I don’t think what I saw constituted a proper citizen’s arrest,”
 Quoting: Osmium76



didn't this clown listen to the gun owner?

the gun owner was a Democrat and Democrats get away with everything.

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Just Wow!

Made me do a double take, as I was simply walking through the room when that clip aired and he said that.

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People are on edge with all these riots, etc and people are saying enough is enough and just going back to the days when you DID protect your things.

Don’t steal...problem solved
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People are on edge with all these riots, etc and people are saying enough is enough and just going back to the days when you DID protect your things.

Don’t steal...problem solved
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Things getting twitchy..... :jay:

I expect we will see a lot more of this type of behavior.
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People are on edge with all these riots, etc and people are saying enough is enough and just going back to the days when you DID protect your things.

Don’t steal...problem solved
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yesterday I went to Kohl's to buy some shoes. there were
7 or 8 cars and I parked in the 9th space. An old VW
sedan was parked out around the 15th space and an Antifa
looking dude was wandering around it. As I drove up,
I saw driver's hand with a cigarette.

So I'm already a little suspicious. I get out and head for
Kohl's and almost immediately this dude yells at me. I
always carry my pistol now. I turned around, and he's
started toward me.

Then I notice a 2nd car parked off in the shade and it's
got two Antifa-looking types in it, too. They both got
Oregon plates but this is in WA, across the river.

I immediately step back and get in my car. The dude yells
again but he's stopped now. I drove away.

But I was ready to blast him if he kept coming. I don't
know him, I didn't gesture to him, and I'm seeing four
dudes loitering around with out of state plates who
aren't customers.

.

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Did you see the sniper laser right at the end?
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Did you see the sniper laser right at the end?
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No?

I think that was just a reflection from the sun hitting the phone recording the incident.
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"I’m a Democrat. I can shoot you because Democrats get away with everything.”

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To view the video of the incident click the link and scroll down the page.

Listen to what the man holding the gun says!
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Couple point guns at woman accused of shoplifting
UPDATED: Mon.
, June 29, 2020 [link to www.spokesman.com (secure)]

Two people pointed handguns at a suspected shoplifter in the parking lot of a South Hill shopping center on Friday in actions that drew cautionary advice from police for people attempting to stop lawbreakers.

A video posted on Facebook shows a woman being held at gunpoint in her car by people who believed she stole from a store in the Manito Shopping Center on the South Hill, while they waited for police to arrive.

The video had been shared hundreds of times by Monday morning and been shared to other platforms like Reddit.

Annamarie L. Kirkpatrick, 36, was cited for shoplifting, a gross misdemeanor. Her boyfriend, who she mentions in the video, fled the scene and was not cited, said Officer John O’Brien with the Spokane Police Department.

A man and a woman drew their weapons because they suspected Kirkpatrick had stolen shoes from the nearby Rite Aid in the complex, according to Spokane resident Peter Trotta’s Friday post. Kirkpatrick was charged with shoplifting from the Ross in the shopping center, according to police.

In the video, an unidentified man can be seen holding a silver handgun and telling Kirkpatrick to “sit down” when she tried to stand up.

“Get your (expletive) in there and sit down,” the man said. “I am not a cop, I will (expletive) shoot you. I’m a Democrat. I can shoot you because Democrats get away with everything.”

The woman can be seen in the video holding what appears to be a blue handgun.

Preuninger said witnesses told police that Kirkpatrick and a male suspect ran out of a store in the Manito Shopping Center with bags of clothing. The man and woman saw them leave the store and believed the couple to be shoplifting. They pulled guns on Kirkpatrick and held her at gunpoint until police arrived.

Neither the man nor the woman with a gun were charged or cited with a crime, according to police.

Under Washington law, it is considered assault to threaten someone with physical harm if the person making threats seems to have the means and intent to cause threatened harm. In cases that don’t amount to assault under Washington law, any person who aims a firearm at a person, whether loaded or not, is guilty of a gross misdemeanor.

Also under Washington law, a private person can conduct a citizen’s arrest for a misdemeanor, if they saw the act themselves and the act constituted a breach of the peace.

After watching the video, local criminal defense lawyer Jeffry Finer said he was shocked the people with guns were not charged.

“Based on what I saw, it looked like these two people were assaulting a suspect who had not breached the peace and I don’t think what I saw constituted a proper citizen’s arrest,” Finer said. [@ 50% See vid and read further details here>>>>] [link to www.spokesman.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Osmium76


You’re from Spokane.
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Defending yourself is one thing,
but these people are on a power trip,
defending some vague notion of "Society".

They will be the first to turn on us.
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Did you see the sniper laser right at the end?
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No?

I think that was just a reflection from the sun hitting the phone recording the incident.
 Quoting: Osmium76


There's a green laser that dances around over his right elbow/arm area. The sun doesn't dance around like someone's holding it. It's not the camera man's either, because it doesn't move with the camera, it's moving within the camera frame, like someone else in the back somewhere has the laser.
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Did you see the sniper laser right at the end?
 Quoting: Weyoun


No?

I think that was just a reflection from the sun hitting the phone recording the incident.
 Quoting: Osmium76


There's a green laser that dances around over his right elbow/arm area. The sun doesn't dance around like someone's holding it. It's not the camera man's either, because it doesn't move with the camera, it's moving within the camera frame, like someone else in the back somewhere has the laser.
 Quoting: Weyoun


If you watch the vegas "Paddock" videos, you can see the lasers too. And they are pointing in the direction of Mandalay Bay (not from "Paddock"), and they are lasering a VIP transport vehicle driving in front of Mandalay Bay and you see bullet holes appear in the car when the laser dances off (recoil).
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Did you see the sniper laser right at the end?
 Quoting: Weyoun


No?

I think that was just a reflection from the sun hitting the phone recording the incident.
 Quoting: Osmium76


There's a green laser that dances around over his right elbow/arm area. The sun doesn't dance around like someone's holding it. It's not the camera man's either, because it doesn't move with the camera, it's moving within the camera frame, like someone else in the back somewhere has the laser.
 Quoting: Weyoun


Based on the size of the dot, i think it's not from a sniper but maybe from an undercover black op JTAC supported by Space Force. One of Trump's trump cards.

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To view the video of the incident click the link and scroll down the page.

Listen to what the man holding the gun says!
damned


Couple point guns at woman accused of shoplifting
UPDATED: Mon.
, June 29, 2020 [link to www.spokesman.com (secure)]

Two people pointed handguns at a suspected shoplifter in the parking lot of a South Hill shopping center on Friday in actions that drew cautionary advice from police for people attempting to stop lawbreakers.

A video posted on Facebook shows a woman being held at gunpoint in her car by people who believed she stole from a store in the Manito Shopping Center on the South Hill, while they waited for police to arrive.

The video had been shared hundreds of times by Monday morning and been shared to other platforms like Reddit.

Annamarie L. Kirkpatrick, 36, was cited for shoplifting, a gross misdemeanor. Her boyfriend, who she mentions in the video, fled the scene and was not cited, said Officer John O’Brien with the Spokane Police Department.

A man and a woman drew their weapons because they suspected Kirkpatrick had stolen shoes from the nearby Rite Aid in the complex, according to Spokane resident Peter Trotta’s Friday post. Kirkpatrick was charged with shoplifting from the Ross in the shopping center, according to police.

In the video, an unidentified man can be seen holding a silver handgun and telling Kirkpatrick to “sit down” when she tried to stand up.

“Get your (expletive) in there and sit down,” the man said. “I am not a cop, I will (expletive) shoot you. I’m a Democrat. I can shoot you because Democrats get away with everything.”

The woman can be seen in the video holding what appears to be a blue handgun.

Preuninger said witnesses told police that Kirkpatrick and a male suspect ran out of a store in the Manito Shopping Center with bags of clothing. The man and woman saw them leave the store and believed the couple to be shoplifting. They pulled guns on Kirkpatrick and held her at gunpoint until police arrived.

Neither the man nor the woman with a gun were charged or cited with a crime, according to police.

Under Washington law, it is considered assault to threaten someone with physical harm if the person making threats seems to have the means and intent to cause threatened harm. In cases that don’t amount to assault under Washington law, any person who aims a firearm at a person, whether loaded or not, is guilty of a gross misdemeanor.

Also under Washington law, a private person can conduct a citizen’s arrest for a misdemeanor, if they saw the act themselves and the act constituted a breach of the peace.

After watching the video, local criminal defense lawyer Jeffry Finer said he was shocked the people with guns were not charged.

“Based on what I saw, it looked like these two people were assaulting a suspect who had not breached the peace and I don’t think what I saw constituted a proper citizen’s arrest,” Finer said. [@ 50% See vid and read further details here>>>>] [link to www.spokesman.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Osmium76


the guys a moron, the store is going to thanks, he could end up in jail.
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Don't get me wrong.

I am happy we have vigilant citizens, but the video is chilling with regard to the way it was handled.

None the least to bring politics into what could have been a deadly encounter.

burnit
 Quoting: Osmium76


The guy says

"I'M A DEMOCRAT!!, I CAN SHOOT YOU!! DEMOCRATS GET AWAY WITH EVERYTHING"


LISTEN FOR YOURSELF!

This is how those communist fucks actually are.
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Don't get me wrong.

I am happy we have vigilant citizens, but the video is chilling with regard to the way it was handled.

None the least to bring politics into what could have been a deadly encounter.

burnit
 Quoting: Osmium76


Gun owners were idiots, why risk your freedom over a bag of close?

man they are so lucky they were not charged with a crime.
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Did you hear him? I'm a democrat I can shoot you

Democrats get away with everything

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Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance!

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Is it san fran that allows theft under $1000? I think so. City will only prosecute thefts over 1k. Video on the net of people just walking into drugstore and taking stuff calmly and walking out
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Defending yourself is one thing,
but these people are on a power trip,
defending some vague notion of "Society".

They will be the first to turn on us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74661623


pretty much, what a bunch of morons
what would they have done if the thief decided to run? shot her? for stealing shoes from a store they don't even own?
damn retards with guns
cops get fired for doing that
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Don't get me wrong.

I am happy we have vigilant citizens, but the video is chilling with regard to the way it was handled.

None the least to bring politics into what could have been a deadly encounter.

burnit
 Quoting: Osmium76


The guy says

"I'M A DEMOCRAT!!, I CAN SHOOT YOU!! DEMOCRATS GET AWAY WITH EVERYTHING"


LISTEN FOR YOURSELF!

This is how those communist fucks actually are.
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I did, that is why I posted the thread. Maybe you missed that?
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Defending yourself is one thing,
but these people are on a power trip,
defending some vague notion of "Society".

They will be the first to turn on us.
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pretty much, what a bunch of morons
what would they have done if the thief decided to run? shot her? for stealing shoes from a store they don't even own?
damn retards with guns
cops get fired for doing that
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:jay:
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You’re from Spokane.
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If you say so.

I live in the area, doesn't mean I live in Spokane, although I use to.1dunno1
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Don't get me wrong.

I am happy we have vigilant citizens, but the video is chilling with regard to the way it was handled.

None the least to bring politics into what could have been a deadly encounter.

burnit
 Quoting: Osmium76


Gun owners were idiots, why risk your freedom over a bag of close?

man they are so lucky they were not charged with a crime.
 Quoting: Jake


Indeed.

This side of the state is more conservative than the other, but it looks like we have a trickle down effect of moranism filtering out over her too.
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Did you see the sniper laser right at the end?
 Quoting: Weyoun


No?

I think that was just a reflection from the sun hitting the phone recording the incident.
 Quoting: Osmium76


There's a green laser that dances around over his right elbow/arm area. The sun doesn't dance around like someone's holding it. It's not the camera man's either, because it doesn't move with the camera, it's moving within the camera frame, like someone else in the back somewhere has the laser.
 Quoting: Weyoun


Did you see the sniper laser right at the end?
 Quoting: Weyoun


No?

I think that was just a reflection from the sun hitting the phone recording the incident.
 Quoting: Osmium76


There's a green laser that dances around over his right elbow/arm area. The sun doesn't dance around like someone's holding it. It's not the camera man's either, because it doesn't move with the camera, it's moving within the camera frame, like someone else in the back somewhere has the laser.
 Quoting: Weyoun


If you watch the vegas "Paddock" videos, you can see the lasers too. And they are pointing in the direction of Mandalay Bay (not from "Paddock"), and they are lasering a VIP transport vehicle driving in front of Mandalay Bay and you see bullet holes appear in the car when the laser dances off (recoil).
 Quoting: Weyoun


Hmm. I may go back and look, but all I saw was what appeared to be a light from a refraction on the phone doing the recording as it panned. Not the point of the thread anyways though.
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I have such a hard time with second amendment issues because of this stuff ...

this is where I part ways with my libertarian compadres ...

Too many idiots legally carry guns. Drunks, paranoid assholes, vigilantes, nibshits etc. My friends always cite the fact that these people are undiagnosed and shouldn't really have guns ...

In my experience, 90% of people aren't really competent and trustworthy

this is where erring on the side of individual rights regarding guns gets us - we're stuck with it

I'm happy not to live in a state without so many carry permits

I've seen too many dumbasses with guns - even good friends of mine who I would not have objected to carrying have made serious gun mistakes that either were or could have been bad.
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I have such a hard time with second amendment issues because of this stuff ...

this is where I part ways with my libertarian compadres ...

Too many idiots legally carry guns. Drunks, paranoid assholes, vigilantes, nibshits etc. My friends always cite the fact that these people are undiagnosed and shouldn't really have guns ...

In my experience, 90% of people aren't really competent and trustworthy

this is where erring on the side of individual rights regarding guns gets us - we're stuck with it

I'm happy not to live in a state without so many carry permits

I've seen too many dumbasses with guns - even good friends of mine who I would not have objected to carrying have made serious gun mistakes that either were or could have been bad.
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The same can be said with people who drive cars. It is what it is.

The way I see it, is all the more reason carry one yourself.
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I have such a hard time with second amendment issues because of this stuff ...

this is where I part ways with my libertarian compadres ...

Too many idiots legally carry guns. Drunks, paranoid assholes, vigilantes, nibshits etc. My friends always cite the fact that these people are undiagnosed and shouldn't really have guns ...

In my experience, 90% of people aren't really competent and trustworthy

this is where erring on the side of individual rights regarding guns gets us - we're stuck with it

I'm happy not to live in a state without so many carry permits

I've seen too many dumbasses with guns - even good friends of mine who I would not have objected to carrying have made serious gun mistakes that either were or could have been bad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77504359


The same can be said with people who drive cars. It is what it is.

The way I see it, is all the more reason carry one yourself.
 Quoting: Osmium76


No - it's not though ... any more than the solution to your driving is more bad drivers driving - all that causes is traffic.
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I have such a hard time with second amendment issues because of this stuff ...

this is where I part ways with my libertarian compadres ...

Too many idiots legally carry guns. Drunks, paranoid assholes, vigilantes, nibshits etc. My friends always cite the fact that these people are undiagnosed and shouldn't really have guns ...

In my experience, 90% of people aren't really competent and trustworthy

this is where erring on the side of individual rights regarding guns gets us - we're stuck with it

I'm happy not to live in a state without so many carry permits

I've seen too many dumbasses with guns - even good friends of mine who I would not have objected to carrying have made serious gun mistakes that either were or could have been bad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77504359


The same can be said with people who drive cars. It is what it is.

The way I see it, is all the more reason carry one yourself.
 Quoting: Osmium76


No - it's not though ... any more than the solution to your driving is more bad drivers driving - all that causes is traffic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77504359


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No - it's not though ... any more than the solution to your driving is more drivers driving - all the good drivers in the world dont fix the bad ones - all that causes is traffic





GLP