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The Prophecies of the Great Warrior Crazy Horse: Read this and come to your own conclusions

 
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Tecumseh was very interesting , in that it is known he predicted the new Madrid Earthquake and an eclipse of the sun in the same week
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Tecumseh’s successful mobilization of so many Natives proved to the United States that the war had not been won

This Date in Native History: Earthquakes and eclipses of the sun were among the deeds attributed to Tecumseh and his brother, but legends surrounding Tecumseh are as great as the truths, said Shawnee Second Chief Ben Barnes. “It is hard to know without proof or specific oral history just exactly what happened” on August 11, 1802 he said.

There is evidence that Tecumseh and his brother, Tenskwatawa, were prophets and visionaries who may have changed history had there been a little more help from the British, and more faith from certain tribes. As for help from the Creator, or “Master of Life,” the evidence follows.

Tenskwatawa was a victim of the times, with an intense longing for the ways of his childhood and a sense of hopelessness for the future. Lost in alcoholism, Tenskwatawa one day fell into a fire, and lived. Reborn into a spiritual fervor, he became known as The Prophet, declaring that the Master of Life had insisted that all ways associated with the white man must be abandoned.

Fed up with the ever encroaching, land stealing whites, Tecumseh took his brother’s prophecy and called for all Natives to unite as one people against the whites. More than 1,000 people from a variety of tribes joined Tecumseh, whose charismatic persona drew the respect and admiration of whites and Natives alike.

“He was part of the warrior division of his tribe,” Barnes said, describing Tecumseh as “a self-prescribed leader who became a war chief by assuming that mantle. Tecumseh said, ‘We will not continue moving west. We are going back to the old ways.’”

Romanticized by whites and described as having powerful medicine by his Native peers, historic documents describe Tecumseh as being “of commanding figure, nearly six feet tall and compactly built, dignified bearing and piercing eye, charitable in thought and action, brave as a lion, but humane and generous with all. An aboriginal American knight.”

Barnes reported that after Tecumsah saw the Shawnee burn Daniel Boone’s 14-year-old son, Tecumseh turned the tides toward a gentler society for his people. He was known to treat all people, men, women, enemies and prisoners, with justice and fairness.

Tecumseh’s successful mobilization of so many Natives proved to the United States that the war had not been won. In an attempt to discredit The Prophet, the government insisted that the Indians seek proof that he was supported by the Creator. They got it after the prophet called for a sunless sky, which arrived shortly after in the form of an extreme total eclipse.

Legend has it that Tecumseh went amongst the Creeks to join in the rebellion, but when they refused to join his confederacy, he threatened that if they did not enlist before he reached Detroit, he would stamp his feet three times and they would feel their houses shake down through Mississippi.

Whether legend or prophecy, his words played out on December 16, 1811, when the first of three earthquakes were said to have occurred when he reached Detroit. Named the New Madrid earthquakes for New Madrid, Missouri, the U.S. Geological Survey writes that the earthquake was close to 10 times stronger than the one that destroyed San Francisco in the late 1800s and shook the earth strong enough to alarm the general population over an area of 1,553,428 square miles. The massive quake caused such a major shift of seismic plates that it was said church bells rang out in Boston, sidewalks cracked in Washington, D.C., forests disappeared, lakes were created, villages were swallowed and for a few hours even the Mississippi River ran backwards.
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I should mention there is a lot of evidence this prediction was actually made and came true simple by the fact that the dates match up. Tecumseh was in Detroit when the earthquakes and eclipse happened and the legend does not originate with Tecumseh himself but from a tribe which refused to ally with him.

This makes it doubtful they just made it up, Tecumseh said he would stamp his feet three times and there were three earthquakes.


Could it be bullshit?
Yeah.
But I wouldn't bet on it. Indian legends are not like white legends. Legends were just a way of passing down knowledge that was never recorded in a written language , which could be for one of several reasons.
Tecumseh failed because he hated the whites and his hate consumed him to the degree the creator did not agree with his plans, IMO. He intended to wipe them out and had he succeeded in doing what he set out to, HE WOULD HAVE..
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And exactly do you think 'the White Legends' are talking about?
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what about the Hopi white buffalo and the blue kachina thing?
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I have read the prophecies of the Hopis , and I understand them probably to the same degree you do.

Indians believe we are in a loop or circle of time and there are ways to see both into the future and into the past.

It works for me. I am never surprised by what is coming nor confused by what is happening.

Ask me something. See if you can prove it isnt true.

.
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I have met Hopi and I have great respect for the culture and do you think they would invite a white brother to sacred ceremony to become one with the people and their ways?
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Prophecy of Crazy Horse


Paha Sapa [the Black Hills]

This was passed on by Chief Joe Chasing Horse, a relative of the great Lakota warrior Crazy Horse. He translated it from the words of a grandmother who was present when the words were spoken.

This is a statement of Crazy Horse as he sat smoking the Sacred Pipe at Paha Sapa with Sitting Bull for the last time, 4 days before he was assassinated.

Many of these words are often repeated, but there is one line often left out, that of the “young white ones.”

I post this in honor of my Native American elders, including Grandfather Wallace Black Elk, Bear Heart and Sun Bear, who had the courage to fulfill this prophecy by passing on such beautiful Native teachings to the “young white ones” who came to them for help.

“Upon suffering beyond suffering; the Red Nation shall rise again and it shall be a blessing for a sick world.

A world filled with broken promises, selfishness and separations.

A world longing for light again.

I see a time of seven generations when all the colors of mankind will gather under the sacred Tree of Life and the whole Earth will become one circle again.

In that day there will be those among the Lakota who will carry knowledge and understanding of unity among all living things, and the young white ones will come to those of my people and ask for this wisdom.

I salute the light within your eyes where the whole universe dwells.

For when you are at that center within you and I am in that place within me, we shall be as one.”.

[Crazy Horse is my Grandfather, though I should be clear grandfather doesn't mean the same thing to us as it does to you, it means he came before me in the same bloodline]
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I was at Standing Rock in Dec 2016.
I remember hearing about this and the black snakes .
 Quoting: apakalypsetemplar


You are most likely one of the young white ones that Crazy Horse spoke of.
Most of us are glad to see others hear our stories who not indian. We read their history and their opinions, and even their bible.
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I was there with Wes Clark and the rest of the veterans. Also a member of the white horse warrior society .
 Quoting: apakalypsetemplar

Ah, a mercenary

cruise

What standoffs have you been in? I've been in a 6 week siege in Akwesasne back in '89 and quite few armed standoffs

Not to mention combat in the streets of Houston

cruisewuflu
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what about the Hopi white buffalo and the blue kachina thing?
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I have read the prophecies of the Hopis , and I understand them probably to the same degree you do.

Indians believe we are in a loop or circle of time and there are ways to see both into the future and into the past.

It works for me. I am never surprised by what is coming nor confused by what is happening.

Ask me something. See if you can prove it isnt true.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79087800


I have met Hopi and I have great respect for the culture and do you think they would invite a white brother to sacred ceremony to become one with the people and their ways?
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Among the Lakotah many ceremonies and rituals can be shared and others can't. I would imagine they are of the same mind.

You have to live like one to be one. I was a Mohawk warrior and a Lakotah descendant at the same time because I lived their, shared their cause and their beliefs and had a Mohawk woman.
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Tecumseh was very interesting , in that it is known he predicted the new Madrid Earthquake and an eclipse of the sun in the same week
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Tecumseh’s successful mobilization of so many Natives proved to the United States that the war had not been won

This Date in Native History: Earthquakes and eclipses of the sun were among the deeds attributed to Tecumseh and his brother, but legends surrounding Tecumseh are as great as the truths, said Shawnee Second Chief Ben Barnes. “It is hard to know without proof or specific oral history just exactly what happened” on August 11, 1802 he said.

There is evidence that Tecumseh and his brother, Tenskwatawa, were prophets and visionaries who may have changed history had there been a little more help from the British, and more faith from certain tribes. As for help from the Creator, or “Master of Life,” the evidence follows.

Tenskwatawa was a victim of the times, with an intense longing for the ways of his childhood and a sense of hopelessness for the future. Lost in alcoholism, Tenskwatawa one day fell into a fire, and lived. Reborn into a spiritual fervor, he became known as The Prophet, declaring that the Master of Life had insisted that all ways associated with the white man must be abandoned.

Fed up with the ever encroaching, land stealing whites, Tecumseh took his brother’s prophecy and called for all Natives to unite as one people against the whites. More than 1,000 people from a variety of tribes joined Tecumseh, whose charismatic persona drew the respect and admiration of whites and Natives alike.

“He was part of the warrior division of his tribe,” Barnes said, describing Tecumseh as “a self-prescribed leader who became a war chief by assuming that mantle. Tecumseh said, ‘We will not continue moving west. We are going back to the old ways.’”

Romanticized by whites and described as having powerful medicine by his Native peers, historic documents describe Tecumseh as being “of commanding figure, nearly six feet tall and compactly built, dignified bearing and piercing eye, charitable in thought and action, brave as a lion, but humane and generous with all. An aboriginal American knight.”

Barnes reported that after Tecumsah saw the Shawnee burn Daniel Boone’s 14-year-old son, Tecumseh turned the tides toward a gentler society for his people. He was known to treat all people, men, women, enemies and prisoners, with justice and fairness.

Tecumseh’s successful mobilization of so many Natives proved to the United States that the war had not been won. In an attempt to discredit The Prophet, the government insisted that the Indians seek proof that he was supported by the Creator. They got it after the prophet called for a sunless sky, which arrived shortly after in the form of an extreme total eclipse.

Legend has it that Tecumseh went amongst the Creeks to join in the rebellion, but when they refused to join his confederacy, he threatened that if they did not enlist before he reached Detroit, he would stamp his feet three times and they would feel their houses shake down through Mississippi.

Whether legend or prophecy, his words played out on December 16, 1811, when the first of three earthquakes were said to have occurred when he reached Detroit. Named the New Madrid earthquakes for New Madrid, Missouri, the U.S. Geological Survey writes that the earthquake was close to 10 times stronger than the one that destroyed San Francisco in the late 1800s and shook the earth strong enough to alarm the general population over an area of 1,553,428 square miles. The massive quake caused such a major shift of seismic plates that it was said church bells rang out in Boston, sidewalks cracked in Washington, D.C., forests disappeared, lakes were created, villages were swallowed and for a few hours even the Mississippi River ran backwards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79087800


I should mention there is a lot of evidence this prediction was actually made and came true simple by the fact that the dates match up. Tecumseh was in Detroit when the earthquakes and eclipse happened and the legend does not originate with Tecumseh himself but from a tribe which refused to ally with him.

This makes it doubtful they just made it up, Tecumseh said he would stamp his feet three times and there were three earthquakes.


Could it be bullshit?
Yeah.
But I wouldn't bet on it. Indian legends are not like white legends. Legends were just a way of passing down knowledge that was never recorded in a written language , which could be for one of several reasons.
Tecumseh failed because he hated the whites and his hate consumed him to the degree the creator did not agree with his plans, IMO. He intended to wipe them out and had he succeeded in doing what he set out to, HE WOULD HAVE..
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And exactly do you think 'the White Legends' are talking about?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77602834


The point I was trying to make is white legends are larger than life ; killed a bair when he was three with a Bowie knife type thing and Indian legends always have a spiritually inspirited aspect, an antagonist and understated hero.
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I was at Standing Rock in Dec 2016.
I remember hearing about this and the black snakes .
 Quoting: apakalypsetemplar


You are most likely one of the young white ones that Crazy Horse spoke of.
Most of us are glad to see others hear our stories who not indian. We read their history and their opinions, and even their bible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79087800


I was there with Wes Clark and the rest of the veterans. Also a member of the white horse warrior society .
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Ah, a mercenary

cruise

What standoffs have you been in? I've been in a 6 week siege in Akwesasne back in '89 and quite few armed standoffs

Not to mention combat in the streets of Houston

cruisewuflu
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No we acted as human shields for water protectors .
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You are most likely one of the young white ones that Crazy Horse spoke of.
Most of us are glad to see others hear our stories who not indian. We read their history and their opinions, and even their bible.
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I was there with Wes Clark and the rest of the veterans. Also a member of the white horse warrior society .
 Quoting: apakalypsetemplar

Ah, a mercenary

cruise

What standoffs have you been in? I've been in a 6 week siege in Akwesasne back in '89 and quite few armed standoffs

Not to mention combat in the streets of Houston

cruisewuflu
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No we acted as human shields for water protectors .
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Well dont get run over by a bulldozer

cruise

Sounds like you actually might have some sense about you anyway, knowing the importance of not wounding nature.
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Prophecies are for j w endoctrinated cucks.
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What a dull world you live in must suck to be you
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Prophecies are for j w endoctrinated cucks.
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What a dull world you live in must suck to be you
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I always said it is wise to listen to a wise man.

You have to make that judgementt yoourslf.

WIth a prophecy or predcition the proof is in the puddling so to speak.

In ours a great cataclysm will force us all to live undivided by class or race. It should be on interests to white Americans that Lakotah prophesies foretold their arrival hundreds of years before they did..
What I am saying is if we could see you coming, it might not be unwise to listen to how we saw you GOING.
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Prophecies are for j w endoctrinated cucks.
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What a dull world you live in must suck to be you
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I always said it is wise to listen to a wise man.

You have to make that judgementt yoourslf.

WIth a prophecy or predcition the proof is in the puddling so to speak.

In ours a great cataclysm will force us all to live undivided by class or race. It should be on interests to white Americans that Lakotah prophesies foretold their arrival hundreds of years before they did..
What I am saying is if we could see you coming, it might not be unwise to listen to how we saw you GOING.
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I am stands in the stars . How are you ?
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I heard this prophecy in a Marty Stuart song.
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I heard this prophecy in a Marty Stuart song.
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I'm sorry, I'm NOT SURE I know who he is.

Does he do folk music or is it rockabilly music?
Ive heard of him.
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"Crazy Horse, the warrior, had a similar vision but his was a little more prophetic. He saw his people enter a great time of darkness. He also saw automobiles and airplanes (something not invented in his time) and also foretold of both world wars. In Crazy Horse’s vision he saw that after the last war (World War II?) his people would gradually start to come out of their darkness. He saw them begin to dance again under the Sacred Tree. To his amazement and astonishment he noticed that it was not just his own people dancing under the tree. There were members of all races of man dancing as brothers. Crazy Horse foresaw a time that the world would be healed and made whole again by all nations working together to make a better world.

There are many accounts of visions and prophecies across centuries of time by members of different Indigeneous People who lived on Turtle Island (North America). They all seem to foretell the same event with much the same outcome. After destruction and man’s disrespectful treating of our Mother Earth there will be a cleansing time and the birth of a new world where all races of man live together in harmony."

[link to native-american-totems.com]
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and what do you think the UN and climate people are talking about when they say GAIA??? Look it up.

The OP had these lines


I see a time of seven generations when all the colors of mankind will gather under the sacred Tree of Life and the whole Earth will become one circle again.

In that day there will be those among the Lakota who will carry knowledge and understanding of unity among all living things, and the young white ones will come to those of my people and ask for this wisdom.


The native tribes were not at peace. There are no native tribes anywhere on the planet that were at peace with each other. That is why they had warriors.

They may have been at peace with nature but not with other tribes.
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This was passed on by Chief Joe Chasing Horse,
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Injun Joe?
If I am going to be damned...I am going to be damned for who I really am!
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Prophecies are for j w endoctrinated cucks.
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What a dull world you live in must suck to be you
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I always said it is wise to listen to a wise man.

You have to make that judgementt yoourslf.

WIth a prophecy or predcition the proof is in the puddling so to speak.

In ours a great cataclysm will force us all to live undivided by class or race. It should be on interests to white Americans that Lakotah prophesies foretold their arrival hundreds of years before they did..
What I am saying is if we could see you coming, it might not be unwise to listen to how we saw you GOING.
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I am stands in the stars . How are you ?
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My name is not easy to say in English because there is no English translation for what it describes besides maybe "contemplative" would come pretty close . Somewhat like "one who remains motionless thinking"

They give you your name when some grandmother usually notices a kid doing something weird, something that stands out from the others. This is who you are from then on, one who sits motionless thinking"

I almost wish I could change my name.

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This was passed on by Chief Joe Chasing Horse,
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Injun Joe?
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Indians have weird names because they are not named like whites are, with a set set of names.

You COULD end up being called "shit for brains" Or "plays with himself"

cruise
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"Crazy Horse, the warrior, had a similar vision but his was a little more prophetic. He saw his people enter a great time of darkness. He also saw automobiles and airplanes (something not invented in his time) and also foretold of both world wars. In Crazy Horse’s vision he saw that after the last war (World War II?) his people would gradually start to come out of their darkness. He saw them begin to dance again under the Sacred Tree. To his amazement and astonishment he noticed that it was not just his own people dancing under the tree. There were members of all races of man dancing as brothers. Crazy Horse foresaw a time that the world would be healed and made whole again by all nations working together to make a better world.

There are many accounts of visions and prophecies across centuries of time by members of different Indigeneous People who lived on Turtle Island (North America). They all seem to foretell the same event with much the same outcome. After destruction and man’s disrespectful treating of our Mother Earth there will be a cleansing time and the birth of a new world where all races of man live together in harmony."

[link to native-american-totems.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79087800



and what do you think the UN and climate people are talking about when they say GAIA??? Look it up.

The OP had these lines


I see a time of seven generations when all the colors of mankind will gather under the sacred Tree of Life and the whole Earth will become one circle again.

In that day there will be those among the Lakota who will carry knowledge and understanding of unity among all living things, and the young white ones will come to those of my people and ask for this wisdom.


The native tribes were not at peace. There are no native tribes anywhere on the planet that were at peace with each other. That is why they had warriors.

They may have been at peace with nature but not with other tribes.
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From another post

Fed up with the ever encroaching, land stealing whites, Tecumseh took his brother’s prophecy and called for all Natives to unite as one people against the whites. More than 1,000 people from a variety of tribes joined Tecumseh, whose charismatic persona drew the respect and admiration of whites and Natives alike.


Even he knew the tribes were not united yet the OP claimed they all lived in peace together, united as one.

It is a nice fantasy in the current world. One day it may be possible but not anytime soon.
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"Crazy Horse, the warrior, had a similar vision but his was a little more prophetic. He saw his people enter a great time of darkness. He also saw automobiles and airplanes (something not invented in his time) and also foretold of both world wars. In Crazy Horse’s vision he saw that after the last war (World War II?) his people would gradually start to come out of their darkness. He saw them begin to dance again under the Sacred Tree. To his amazement and astonishment he noticed that it was not just his own people dancing under the tree. There were members of all races of man dancing as brothers. Crazy Horse foresaw a time that the world would be healed and made whole again by all nations working together to make a better world.

There are many accounts of visions and prophecies across centuries of time by members of different Indigeneous People who lived on Turtle Island (North America). They all seem to foretell the same event with much the same outcome. After destruction and man’s disrespectful treating of our Mother Earth there will be a cleansing time and the birth of a new world where all races of man live together in harmony."

[link to native-american-totems.com]
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The native tribes were not at peace. There are no native tribes anywhere on the planet that were at peace with each other.


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Sorry, this isnt true. There were the 7 nations of the plains Indians in one confederacy and the Iroquois confederacy and they were at peace with each other for hundreds of years. The conflicts occurred when groups encroached on the traditional territories of others, and the whites spreading west caused most of it


That is why they had warriors.

They may have been at peace with nature but not with other tribes.
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"Crazy Horse, the warrior, had a similar vision but his was a little more prophetic. He saw his people enter a great time of darkness. He also saw automobiles and airplanes (something not invented in his time) and also foretold of both world wars. In Crazy Horse’s vision he saw that after the last war (World War II?) his people would gradually start to come out of their darkness. He saw them begin to dance again under the Sacred Tree. To his amazement and astonishment he noticed that it was not just his own people dancing under the tree. There were members of all races of man dancing as brothers. Crazy Horse foresaw a time that the world would be healed and made whole again by all nations working together to make a better world.

There are many accounts of visions and prophecies across centuries of time by members of different Indigeneous People who lived on Turtle Island (North America). They all seem to foretell the same event with much the same outcome. After destruction and man’s disrespectful treating of our Mother Earth there will be a cleansing time and the birth of a new world where all races of man live together in harmony."

[link to native-american-totems.com]
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and what do you think the UN and climate people are talking about when they say GAIA??? Look it up.

The OP had these lines


I see a time of seven generations when all the colors of mankind will gather under the sacred Tree of Life and the whole Earth will become one circle again.

In that day there will be those among the Lakota who will carry knowledge and understanding of unity among all living things, and the young white ones will come to those of my people and ask for this wisdom.


The native tribes were not at peace. There are no native tribes anywhere on the planet that were at peace with each other. That is why they had warriors.

They may have been at peace with nature but not with other tribes.
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From another post

Fed up with the ever encroaching, land stealing whites, Tecumseh took his brother’s prophecy and called for all Natives to unite as one people against the whites. More than 1,000 people from a variety of tribes joined Tecumseh, whose charismatic persona drew the respect and admiration of whites and Natives alike.


Even he knew the tribes were not united yet the OP claimed they all lived in peace together, united as one.

It is a nice fantasy in the current world. One day it may be possible but not anytime soon.
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You have extremely substandard reading comprehension. I dont think it's possible for me to un-confuse you
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"Crazy Horse, the warrior, had a similar vision but his was a little more prophetic. He saw his people enter a great time of darkness. He also saw automobiles and airplanes (something not invented in his time) and also foretold of both world wars. In Crazy Horse’s vision he saw that after the last war (World War II?) his people would gradually start to come out of their darkness. He saw them begin to dance again under the Sacred Tree. To his amazement and astonishment he noticed that it was not just his own people dancing under the tree. There were members of all races of man dancing as brothers. Crazy Horse foresaw a time that the world would be healed and made whole again by all nations working together to make a better world.

There are many accounts of visions and prophecies across centuries of time by members of different Indigeneous People who lived on Turtle Island (North America). They all seem to foretell the same event with much the same outcome. After destruction and man’s disrespectful treating of our Mother Earth there will be a cleansing time and the birth of a new world where all races of man live together in harmony."

[link to native-american-totems.com]
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The native tribes were not at peace. There are no native tribes anywhere on the planet that were at peace with each other. That is why they had warriors.

They may have been at peace with nature but not with other tribes.


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Sorry, this isnt true. There were the 7 nations of the plains Indians in one confederacy and the Iroquois confederacy and they were at peace with each other for hundreds of years. The conflicts occurred when groups encroached on the traditional territories of others, and the whites spreading west caused most of it



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We'll settle for the Lakotah Republic.

The Black hills have trillions in minerals including Uranium silver and gold, and copper.
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And now you talk of raping the land... you're not Indian, as you have no need for those things.
Just trying to bring rational thinking to the net.
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"Crazy Horse, the warrior, had a similar vision but his was a little more prophetic. He saw his people enter a great time of darkness. He also saw automobiles and airplanes (something not invented in his time) and also foretold of both world wars. In Crazy Horse’s vision he saw that after the last war (World War II?) his people would gradually start to come out of their darkness. He saw them begin to dance again under the Sacred Tree. To his amazement and astonishment he noticed that it was not just his own people dancing under the tree. There were members of all races of man dancing as brothers. Crazy Horse foresaw a time that the world would be healed and made whole again by all nations working together to make a better world.

There are many accounts of visions and prophecies across centuries of time by members of different Indigeneous People who lived on Turtle Island (North America). They all seem to foretell the same event with much the same outcome. After destruction and man’s disrespectful treating of our Mother Earth there will be a cleansing time and the birth of a new world where all races of man live together in harmony."

[link to native-american-totems.com]
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The native tribes were not at peace. There are no native tribes anywhere on the planet that were at peace with each other. That is why they had warriors.

They may have been at peace with nature but not with other tribes.


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Sorry, this isnt true. There were the 7 nations of the plains Indians in one confederacy and the Iroquois confederacy and they were at peace with each other for hundreds of years. The conflicts occurred when groups encroached on the traditional territories of others, and the whites spreading west caused most of it



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You answered my own point so don't claim I can't read or understand.

The conflicts occurred when groups encroached on the traditional territories of others, and the whites spreading west caused most of it


What that says is that other groups did encroach and there were conflicts as with ALL native tribes around the world.

They used force to maintain their territorial integrity. Kinda like countries and borders don't you think? Claiming that there should be free movement between civilizations and lands is not how the native tribes lived and was not part of their teachings. In fact you specifically state that they did not allow such things.

So some claim that all the peoples will come together and live as one is not how the natives themselves lived.
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"Crazy Horse, the warrior, had a similar vision but his was a little more prophetic. He saw his people enter a great time of darkness. He also saw automobiles and airplanes (something not invented in his time) and also foretold of both world wars. In Crazy Horse’s vision he saw that after the last war (World War II?) his people would gradually start to come out of their darkness. He saw them begin to dance again under the Sacred Tree. To his amazement and astonishment he noticed that it was not just his own people dancing under the tree. There were members of all races of man dancing as brothers. Crazy Horse foresaw a time that the world would be healed and made whole again by all nations working together to make a better world.

There are many accounts of visions and prophecies across centuries of time by members of different Indigeneous People who lived on Turtle Island (North America). They all seem to foretell the same event with much the same outcome. After destruction and man’s disrespectful treating of our Mother Earth there will be a cleansing time and the birth of a new world where all races of man live together in harmony."

[link to native-american-totems.com]
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:personal green t::personal green t::personal green t::with love: KD
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Mitakuye Oyasin means All of us are one


Strange,huh?

Unfortunately it only applies to Lakotah and it is not permitted for it to be appropriated by our white brothers unless they are themsleves "one". In other words it means all is one in the Lakotah world or plane of existence.

It does not mean the cop that killed George Floyd is one with us, or Donald Trump.

Those are just examples but you get the idea. It's kind of like what makes a person an ISRAELITE is their belief in a particular god and following his instructions.

You become one of us not by being born among us, too. Crazy Horse was part white, curly hair and face hair.
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Trump may not be Lakota but he is a time traveler leading the way, for all colored and nations... WWG1WGA
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We'll settle for the Lakotah Republic.

The Black hills have trillions in minerals including Uranium silver and gold, and copper.
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And now you talk of raping the land... you're not Indian, as you have no need for those things.
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I did?

Having something doesn't mean you HAVE to dig it up, does it?

We don't put a value on those things, the Lakotah lived in a state I am sure you would call poverty, but to them they were wealthy beyond monetary measure.
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"Crazy Horse, the warrior, had a similar vision but his was a little more prophetic. He saw his people enter a great time of darkness. He also saw automobiles and airplanes (something not invented in his time) and also foretold of both world wars. In Crazy Horse’s vision he saw that after the last war (World War II?) his people would gradually start to come out of their darkness. He saw them begin to dance again under the Sacred Tree. To his amazement and astonishment he noticed that it was not just his own people dancing under the tree. There were members of all races of man dancing as brothers. Crazy Horse foresaw a time that the world would be healed and made whole again by all nations working together to make a better world.

There are many accounts of visions and prophecies across centuries of time by members of different Indigeneous People who lived on Turtle Island (North America). They all seem to foretell the same event with much the same outcome. After destruction and man’s disrespectful treating of our Mother Earth there will be a cleansing time and the birth of a new world where all races of man live together in harmony."

[link to native-american-totems.com]
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:personal green t::personal green t::personal green t::with love: KD
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Mitakuye Oyasin means All of us are one


Strange,huh?

Unfortunately it only applies to Lakotah and it is not permitted for it to be appropriated by our white brothers unless they are themsleves "one". In other words it means all is one in the Lakotah world or plane of existence.

It does not mean the cop that killed George Floyd is one with us, or Donald Trump.

Those are just examples but you get the idea. It's kind of like what makes a person an ISRAELITE is their belief in a particular god and following his instructions.

You become one of us not by being born among us, too. Crazy Horse was part white, curly hair and face hair.
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Trump may not be Lakota but he is a time traveler leading the way, for all colored and nations... WWG1WGA
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If Trump could snap his fingers and make 5 billion people disappear, HE WOULD

He is very dangerous individual possessed by evil, one who has a hypnotic charisma.
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Tears in the eye at the battle of wounded knee.

Native American justice wanting to be free.

White men fighting because they are told

White men are dying long before they are old.

Now they time has come for the land of hypocrisy.

All lives in peace together thats my prophecy.
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The native tribes were not at peace. There are no native tribes anywhere on the planet that were at peace with each other. That is why they had warriors.

They may have been at peace with nature but not with other tribes.


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Sorry, this isnt true. There were the 7 nations of the plains Indians in one confederacy and the Iroquois confederacy and they were at peace with each other for hundreds of years. The conflicts occurred when groups encroached on the traditional territories of others, and the whites spreading west caused most of it



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You answered my own point so don't claim I can't read or understand.

The conflicts occurred when groups encroached on the traditional territories of others, and the whites spreading west caused most of it


What that says is that other groups did encroach and there were conflicts as with ALL native tribes around the world.

They used force to maintain their territorial integrity. Kinda like countries and borders don't you think? Claiming that there should be free movement between civilizations and lands is not how the native tribes lived and was not part of their teachings. In fact you specifically state that they did not allow such things.

So some claim that all the peoples will come together and live as one is not how the natives themselves lived.



Don't have an answer do you?

Tribes had "standing armies" (warriors) in case they were attacked or others encroached on their lands just like today's nations have standing armies for the same reasons. Your people knew that humans were not perfect and they couldn't live in blissful peace without fear.
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ALan Alda was funny as fuck on MASH but I swear sometimes that ego of his was too much to bear. And I don't mean the character, I mean the ACTOR.

He had to dominate every scene, did you notice that?
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It would have been a better show without him, honestly.
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I heard this prophecy in a Marty Stuart song.
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I'm sorry, I'm NOT SURE I know who he is.

Does he do folk music or is it rockabilly music?
Ive heard of him.
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COUNTRY MUSIC

Three Chiefs
Written by Marty Stuart

In a 4 by room at Pine Ridge, on a cold December day
A spirit come down from the heaven world to take Red Cloud away
Mary and Jesus and the stars and stripes, looked down on his bed
Women brought snow in off the ground, to cool his fevered head
When the dust of his wars rolled in from the past,
Like storm clouds gathered from time.
He knew his day on earth had come, to make his peace and die

He raised his hand for mercy, surrendered his last breath of life
Then six white horses came into the room, and took him to the sky
Where he stood face to face with a mysterious form at the edge of eternity
God said "Hello, Red Cloud, now say what you will to me."

Red Cloud said, "I hope the great heavenly father who looks upon us
Will give all the tribes his blessings that they may go forth in peace
And live in peace all their days.
And that our Heavenly Father will look upon our children as his children
That all tribes may be his children.
And as we shake hands today on this broad plain, may we forever live in peace.
Now my sun is set. My day is done.
Just like the book says from the days of old, no cross, no crown.
At the end of the life, at the setting sun, we lay our burdens down.
We lay our burdens down.

When Sitting Bull laid down to sleep, he didn't know when the mornin' come
That red tomahawk and police force, armed with blazing guns
Would storm into his cabin and drag him from his bed
Throw him in the yard like a mangy dog where he was shot and left for dead

Murdered by McLaughlin's men, he never even had a chance.
All because he stayed true to the ghost in his heart and wouldn't give up the dance.
His horse started spinin' and twirlin', the world went round and round
Everybody saw Sitting Bull's body but his soul was nowhere to be found.

He stood face to face with a mysterious form at the edge of eternity.
God said, "Hello Sitting Bull, now say what you will to me."
"You made me an Indian and I thank you, but Father now I ask you
What treaty have the Sioux made with the white man that we have broken.
Not one
And what treaty has the white man ever made with us that they have kept
Not one
Is it wrong for me to love my own and defend them?
Is it wicked for me because my skin red or because I am a Sioux?
I gladly died for my people. And my country because I am an Indian."

Just like the book said from the days of old, no cross, no crown.
At the end of the life, at the setting sun, we lay our burdens down
We lay our burdens down.

In a jailhouse in Nebraska, it was on September 5,
Crazy Horse was fighting hard to keep himself alive.
He screamed just like a panther, at the sight of a guardhouse door,
Stabbed in the back by a soldier's dagger, Crazy Horse fell down on the floor.
He was the last warrior standing, defending the old way of life.
Where mountains sing and ponies run, like smoke from the sacred pipe
Touch the Clouds took his body, back home to his family,
Nobody knows where they laid him down, to set his spirit free

He stood face to face with a mysterious form at the edge of eternity
God said, "Hello Crazy Horse, now say what you will to me."

"Upon suffering. Beyond suffering. The Red Nation shall rise again.
And it shall be a blessing for a sick world.
A world filled with broken promises. Selfishness and separations.
A world longing for light again.
I see a time of seven generations when all of the colors of mankind
Will gather under the sacred tree of life.
And the whole earth will become one circle again.
And that day, there will be those among The Lakota,
Who will carry knowledge and understanding of unity among all living things.
And the young white ones will come to those of my people and ask for this wisdom.
I salute the light within your eyes, for the whole universe dwells
For when you are at that center within you,
And I am at that place within me,
We shall be one."

Three men, three warriors, good and noble chiefs.
Prophets to their people, may they rest a while in peace.
Their words echo like thunder through the canyons at time.
And shine like a flaming arrow in a world, in a world
The truth is hard to find.
No cross, no crown
No cross, no crown
No cross, no crown





GLP