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‘Time to bail’: Longtime Trump backer urges GOP to dump him to avoid total political wipeout

 
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‘Time to bail’: Longtime Trump backer urges GOP to dump him to avoid total political wipeout
Mickey Kaus, an anti-immigration activist, believes that it’s time for the GOP to dump the man whom he backed in the 2016 presidential election.

Kaus, who has been a dogged advocate of Trump since the early days of the 2016 Republican Primary, has written an essay called “A Time to Bail” that says the GOP would be better served at this point booting the president from the ticket and running a less controversial candidate for the presidency.

“It’s undeniable at this point: Trump’s falling behind and flailing,” he writes. “He’s alienating white voters, and not gaining enough of any other kind.”

Kaus writes that he is particularly frightened of Democrats winning and immediately passing an immigration bill that will provide a pathway to citizenship for millions of undocumented immigrants living in the United States, which he believes will permanently wipe out the Republican Party for decades to come.

“The Democratic party, currently held together by antipathy to Trump, would lose its overriding purpose,” he writes. “The intensity level of the Dem campaign will instantly drop. Millions who might turn out to get rid of Trump will stay at home. The lightning rod having wandered off with all the electricity, everything will probably become very boring very quickly.”

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"He's alienating white voters, and not gaining enough of any other kind. One day he’s tweeting about cracking down on rioters, the next day he’s boasting about letting felons out of prison early. Between his own disjointed statements and the press' near-uniform determination not to let him have a single good news day, he's unable to get credit even for popular accomplishments. His campaign is run by an unfirable relative who has proven time and again to have the worst political judgment** since -- well, it's hard to find precursors because most campaign managers had to actually win one or two elections before getting the chance to blow a presidential re-election."

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That means he accepted being a commie. He's a fucking loser!
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You're all worried about Trump but you better be worried about us!
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That means he accepted being a commie. He's a fucking loser!
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I suggest he read what he has written and what could happen to immigration as a result of Trump.
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We ain't going to be too many more white devils!
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If Trump loses, and in the process Democrats retain the House and win back the Senate, they will have the chance to do big things. On many issues, they’re split — but one big thing they’ll be able to agree on is passing a giant Gang-of-8 style amnesty bill. They supported it before.; the bill’s already written. They see a mass influx of immigrants (not irrationally) as the guarantor of a more liberal electorate on into the future. And it will be irreversible, Once you amnesty you can't go back. You can reverse tax increases. You can revise regulations. You can even end welfare entitlements (it happened in 1996). But we're not going to kick large numbers of people out of the country who’ve been admitted legally, even if they are still on a "pathway" to citizenship and not yet citizens, even if the courts would allow it, which they won't.

Would that be so terrible? Yes, it would. I voted for Trump in large part to prevent it. We could probably absorb the millions of illegals already living here — but a precedent will have been set. We will have had two huge amnesties -- 1986 and 2021. People all over the world who might want to come here illegally will reasonably conclude there will one day be a third. And a fourth. The United States will be set on a path of serial amnesties. Stopping the cycle will be increasingly impossible as the electorate becomes increasingly Democratic.

The result will be a permanent change in what America is, and whether we can control our future. Basically, we'll be a nation open to the planet's free moving labor, in which market capitalism automatically wins out over concens of equality, community, and culture.

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deadflag waver...PENCE 2020...
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Theat's why the fantasizing about Trump abandoning his attempt at reelection should probably be taken seriously and even egged on — by those of us who voted for him as well as by anonymous “GOP operatives” who probably didn’t. Trump himself is clearly thinking a lot about losing these days, as when he mused, absurdly, that President Joe Biden would have to finish his border wall. “And he’s going to be your President because some people don’t love me maybe.”

What would happen if he decided to avoid possible humiliation? Well, the Democratic party, currently held together by antipathy to Trump, would lose its overriding purpose. The intensity level of the Dem campaign will instantly drop. Millions who might turn out to get rid of Trump will stay at home. The lightning rod having wandered off with all the electricity, everything will probably become very boring very quickly. The Democrats’ nominee is so weak that Republicans, depending on whom they picked, might still have a chance at retaining the White House. And they’d likely have a much better chance of retaining the Senate -- the key to blocking any 2021 Gang-of-8 amnesty.
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That means he accepted being a commie. He's a fucking loser!
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I suggest he read what he has written and what could happen to immigration as a result of Trump.
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IDGAF what he said! I'm voting for Trump through hell and high water! Nothing you say and nothing you do will ever change that fact. You go defect!
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Trump 2020 let the liberal crying begin!
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You're high on crack if you even think I would vote for Biden!
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FACT
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If Trump loses, and in the process Democrats retain the House and win back the Senate, they will have the chance to do big things. On many issues, they’re split — but one big thing they’ll be able to agree on is passing a giant Gang-of-8 style amnesty bill. They supported it before.; the bill’s already written. They see a mass influx of immigrants (not irrationally) as the guarantor of a more liberal electorate on into the future. And it will be irreversible, Once you amnesty you can't go back. You can reverse tax increases. You can revise regulations. You can even end welfare entitlements (it happened in 1996). But we're not going to kick large numbers of people out of the country who’ve been admitted legally, even if they are still on a "pathway" to citizenship and not yet citizens, even if the courts would allow it, which they won't.

Would that be so terrible? Yes, it would. I voted for Trump in large part to prevent it. We could probably absorb the millions of illegals already living here — but a precedent will have been set. We will have had two huge amnesties -- 1986 and 2021. People all over the world who might want to come here illegally will reasonably conclude there will one day be a third. And a fourth. The United States will be set on a path of serial amnesties. Stopping the cycle will be increasingly impossible as the electorate becomes increasingly Democratic.

The result will be a permanent change in what America is, and whether we can control our future. Basically, we'll be a nation open to the planet's free moving labor, in which market capitalism automatically wins out over concens of equality, community, and culture.

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Your head hunter is a pile of reptile shit.
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Be careful...be real about this. If what Sam Nunberg says actually happens, what Kaus wrote is 100% correct.

Nunberg is one of the people who helped Trump win in 2016. The "Build the wall" slogan was supposedly Nunberg's idea. The elephant in the room is that the masterminds behind Trump's' win in 2016 like Stone, Bannon, and Manafort are no longer helping Trump.

“Under the current trajectory, President Trump is on the precipice of one the of the worst electoral defeats in modern presidential elections and the worst historically for an incumbent president,” said former Trump political adviser Sam Nunberg, who remains a Trump supporter.

Nunberg pointed to national polls released by CNBC and New York Times/Siena over the past week showing Trump receiving below 40 percent against Biden.

If Trump's numbers against erode to 35 percentage points over the next two weeks, Nunberg added, “He’s going to be facing realistically a 400-plus electoral vote loss and the president would need to strongly reconsider whether he wants to continue to run as the Republican presidential nominee.”

Thread: Sam Nunberg (former Trump aid): 'Under the current trajectory, Trump is on the precipice of one the of the worst electoral defeats''
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Your head hunter is a pile of reptile shit.
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We know Hunter Biden is a pile of shit!
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You're a pile of shit too!
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Your head hunter is a pile of reptile shit.
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We know Hunter Biden is a pile of shit!
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Get fucked in a beta tank, bitch.
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Trump 2020 let the liberal crying begin!
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Your head hunter is a pile of reptile shit.
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We know Hunter Biden is a pile of shit!
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Get fucked in a beta tank, bitch.
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Get fucked in a NMABLA parade, bitch!
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Theat's why the fantasizing about Trump abandoning his attempt at reelection should probably be taken seriously and even egged on — by those of us who voted for him as well as by anonymous “GOP operatives” who probably didn’t. Trump himself is clearly thinking a lot about losing these days, as when he mused, absurdly, that President Joe Biden would have to finish his border wall. “And he’s going to be your President because some people don’t love me maybe.”

What would happen if he decided to avoid possible humiliation? Well, the Democratic party, currently held together by antipathy to Trump, would lose its overriding purpose. The intensity level of the Dem campaign will instantly drop. Millions who might turn out to get rid of Trump will stay at home. The lightning rod having wandered off with all the electricity, everything will probably become very boring very quickly. The Democrats’ nominee is so weak that Republicans, depending on whom they picked, might still have a chance at retaining the White House. And they’d likely have a much better chance of retaining the Senate -- the key to blocking any 2021 Gang-of-8 amnesty.
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He is absolutely correct here.
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All he would have to do unmask our true rulers and not the fake 'deep state' they imagineered and he would win no doubt. He is swamp.
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All he would have to do unmask our true rulers and not the fake 'deep state' they imagineered and he would win no doubt. He is swamp.
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"Deep state" was just a slogan that Cambridge Analtytica developed and deployed for the Trump campaign. It's meaningless and here we are four years later and Trump has not even exposed anything "deep state", let alone do anything about it.

Same thing with "drain the swamp". Cambridge Analytica invented that one and Trump himself said he didn't like it at first and he called it "hokey" until he used it at a couple of speeches and the crowd loved it.

Trump: "But they had this expression ‘drain the swamp.’ And I hated it, I thought it was so hokey. I said, ‘that is the hokiest, give me a break, I am embarrassed to say it.’ And I was in Florida where 25,000 people were going wild, and I said, ‘and we will drain the swamp’ — the place went crazy. I couldn’t believe it. And then the next speech I said it again and they went even crazier. ‘We will drain the swamp… we will drain the swamp,’ and every time I said it I got the biggest applause. And after four or give times I said, boy what a great expression, I love saying it, it’s amazing.”
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... the GOP would be better served at this point booting the president from the ticket and running a less controversial candidate for the presidency.

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Who would they run instead?
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We all know who the big players are so I know Trump does! Fuck that stupid shit!
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