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Why Masks are Useless

 
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Thank you OP! We laugh our asses off every time we see some imbecile wearing a mask. We play a game of which 'prop' are they wearing? Surgical? N95? Dust? Or a homemade mask made of pappy's t-shirt? rofl

IF this were a real "virus" that is so deadly contagious you can get it by standing next to another person (closer than oh, let's say 6 feet LOL), you would need to wear an entire Hazmat suit and breathing apparatus.

SMH...Masktards do not even have the logical nor critical thinking capabilities to realize NONE of the pro-mask wearing arguments make ANY sense. IF this were a REAL biological pandemic, you would need, for example, an Israeli gas mask with a NBC filter, and those only last so many hours until you have to change them out. So, for all of the masktards, whether surgical, N95 or homemade cloth, you are all screwed if a real biologic is introduced, because you have fallen head first for the paper/cloth mask propaganda AND are creating health issues by wearing your masks for hours upon hours a day thereby decreasing your immune system.

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 Quoting: Possum_Zero


Remember there are many people out there that know this is a farce but have been made to wear masks for whatever reason. Just be careful about judging someone or making fun of them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76984449


I've been harassed by 3 Karens since mandatory masking went in here.

I started wearing a bandana just so I can go about my business without harassment. As soon as I get inside I pull it below my nose.
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Have you bothered to actually look at scientific websites for info on masks. Yes, no mask will be 100 % effective, however, the droplets that are expelled from a mask wearing Covid positive person are greatly reduced. Hence the lesser chance of passing on the virus. It's not rocket science. Wear a mask.
 Quoting: Kpduties 75530758


This. The masks are used to stop the infected spreading the virus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78853369


The problem is they don't really do that either. The amount of virus being stopped by the mask is insignificant.
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Science Says Healthy People Should Not Wear Masks

-Masks reduce intake of oxygen, leading to carbon dioxide toxicity

-Germs are trapped near your mouth and nose, increasing risk of infection

-Wearing a mask causes you to touch your face more frequently

-There is no scientific evidence that supports healthy people wearing masks

-Masks obscure your facial features and impede normal social interaction

-Masks make it hard for hearing-impaired people to understand you

-Masks symbolize suppression of speech
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63927796


Surgeons often do surgery for hours hours. They wear a mask as the perform surgery.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78853369


Thank you share blue talking point supporter.

The surgeons do not wear masks to stop viruses. They do it so if they sneeze, cough, or drool, get a huge snot rocket, it doesn't go directly into the patient.
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07/04/2020 12:28 AM
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An amazing amount of doctors seem to be ignorant about how these masks work. We put too much trust in the medical establishment being experts on everything when really they are not. The bulk of most doctor's knowledge is about what drugs to prescribe for different symptoms, and even this is mostly determined by pharmaceutical companies and their questionable trials. People need to stop treating doctors like they are all-knowing gods.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78899990


A lot of it is also "empirical medicine" which just means, we will keep trying different things until we find what works.

Anyone who knows how to do a little research can treat most common ailments themselves. Doctors are only really needed for surgeries and major illness. We shouldn't need to pay a doctor to prescribe antibiotics. A talk with a pharmacist is probably sufficient in most cases.
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the Japanese have been Waring face mask since the 1918
Spanish Flu.

they do it willingly, because they are polite and civilized.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76809044


No, they do it due to excessive pollution.
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I believe anti-mask is leftist propaganda. I'm conservative, I support wearing mask. If every1 wears mask, the virus spread will slow or even stop, so no reason for lockdown. I see so many anti-masks threads in conservative websites, they post those to make us look extremists. Wear a mask during pandemic, its just common sense. No need to make scientic reasoning or law to justify or enforce it. Look at Taiwan, Korea, Japan, HK, where most of those places have very few cases, but every1 wears masks even its not mandatory.
 Quoting: whereto


This issue is really separating the sheep from the free.
 Quoting: Copperhead


More like sheep from wolves.

The amount of propaganda the AntiMask League is happy to swallow is amazing. Just look at Japan for efficacy.

Try to spit through a bandana and tell me it doesn't stop droplet transmission.

News flash...That's how colds, flu, and this bioweapon are spread. Droplets.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


Well, that settles it then. Fluffy Pancakes says all viruses are spread solely through droplets so that MUST be the case. Absolutely no other mechanisms of infection.
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Cloth masks: ALL of them offer NO FILTERING whatsoever. As you exhale, you are ridding your lungs of contaminants and carbon dioxide. Cloth masks trap this carbon dioxide the best. It actually risks your health, rather than protect it. The moisture caught in these masks can become mildew ridden over night. Dry coughing, enhanced allergies, sore throat are all symptoms of a micro-mold in your mask. Cloth masks are WORSE than none. It’s equivalent to using a chain link fence to stop mosquitos.


 Quoting: midijeep


cloth masks trap carbon dioxide? Which are literally 3 molecules but are ineffective against a virus that is literally hundreds of times larger carried in water vapor that is thousands upon thousands larger.

sounds like an expert to me.

Chain link fence to stop mosquitos that somehow traps, well something a lot smaller than a mosquito. Do people even read what they type?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77882013


Funny ain't it. Oh well, you give them books and all they do is eat the pages.

From a doctor I know.

I have spent the past 39 years working in the field of surgery. For a significant part of that time, I have worn a mask. I have worked with hundreds (probably thousands) of colleagues during those years, who have also worn masks. Not a single one us of became ill, passed out or died from lack of oxygen. Not a single one of us became ill, passed out or died from breathing too much carbon dioxide. Not a single one us of became ill, passed out or died from rebreathing a little of our own exhaled air. Let’s begin here by putting those scare tactics to rest!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1298661


Did you walk, jog, exercise, push a cartload of groceries, or walk up 2 flights of stairs while you were in surgery?

What's that? You didn't?

If you have 39 years experience then let's see your LinkedIn.
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I believe anti-mask is leftist propaganda. I'm conservative, I support wearing mask. If every1 wears mask, the virus spread will slow or even stop, so no reason for lockdown. I see so many anti-masks threads in conservative websites, they post those to make us look extremists. Wear a mask during pandemic, its just common sense. No need to make scientic reasoning or law to justify or enforce it. Look at Taiwan, Korea, Japan, HK, where most of those places have very few cases, but every1 wears masks even its not mandatory.
 Quoting: whereto


This issue is really separating the sheep from the free.
 Quoting: Copperhead


More like sheep from wolves.

The amount of propaganda the AntiMask League is happy to swallow is amazing. Just look at Japan for efficacy.

Try to spit through a bandana and tell me it doesn't stop droplet transmission.

News flash...That's how colds, flu, and this bioweapon are spread. Droplets.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes

This winter ,put your scarf, facemask , or whatever shield thingy..take a big breath and exhale, all that steam you are going to see , yes those are the "droplets" that you think you are protecting yourself or others from. Yes it will stop loogies and hairballs from flying out of pussymouths but as for what you are concerned about. Plus everybody and I emphasize everyone is constantly touching their mask and adjusting it ..touching mask then touching surfaces
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76774152


It's amazing, isn't it? He's single handedly solved the flu season and the current pandemic.

Who knew that the solution was in popular winter apparel we've worm for thousands of years?

Amazing! Just Brilliant!
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I believe anti-mask is leftist propaganda. I'm conservative, I support wearing mask. If every1 wears mask, the virus spread will slow or even stop, so no reason for lockdown. I see so many anti-masks threads in conservative websites, they post those to make us look extremists. Wear a mask during pandemic, its just common sense. No need to make scientic reasoning or law to justify or enforce it. Look at Taiwan, Korea, Japan, HK, where most of those places have very few cases, but every1 wears masks even its not mandatory.
 Quoting: whereto


This issue is really separating the sheep from the free.
 Quoting: Copperhead


More like sheep from wolves.

The amount of propaganda the AntiMask League is happy to swallow is amazing. Just look at Japan for efficacy.

Try to spit through a bandana and tell me it doesn't stop droplet transmission.

News flash...That's how colds, flu, and this bioweapon are spread. Droplets.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


Well, that settles it then. Fluffy Pancakes says all viruses are spread solely through droplets so that MUST be the case. Absolutely no other mechanisms of infection.
 Quoting: Constant Parad0x


Nope, you’re the only one saying that

Cloth masks: ALL of them offer NO FILTERING whatsoever. As you exhale, you are ridding your lungs of contaminants and carbon dioxide. Cloth masks trap this carbon dioxide the best. It actually risks your health, rather than protect it. The moisture caught in these masks can become mildew ridden over night. Dry coughing, enhanced allergies, sore throat are all symptoms of a micro-mold in your mask. Cloth masks are WORSE than none. It’s equivalent to using a chain link fence to stop mosquitos.


 Quoting: midijeep


cloth masks trap carbon dioxide? Which are literally 3 molecules but are ineffective against a virus that is literally hundreds of times larger carried in water vapor that is thousands upon thousands larger.

sounds like an expert to me.

Chain link fence to stop mosquitos that somehow traps, well something a lot smaller than a mosquito. Do people even read what they type?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77882013


Funny ain't it. Oh well, you give them books and all they do is eat the pages.

From a doctor I know.

I have spent the past 39 years working in the field of surgery. For a significant part of that time, I have worn a mask. I have worked with hundreds (probably thousands) of colleagues during those years, who have also worn masks. Not a single one us of became ill, passed out or died from lack of oxygen. Not a single one of us became ill, passed out or died from breathing too much carbon dioxide. Not a single one us of became ill, passed out or died from rebreathing a little of our own exhaled air. Let’s begin here by putting those scare tactics to rest!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1298661


Did you walk, jog, exercise, push a cartload of groceries, or walk up 2 flights of stairs while you were in surgery?

What's that? You didn't?

If you have 39 years experience then let's see your LinkedIn.
 Quoting: Constant Parad0x


I’ve worked all day every day wearing a mask while doing back breaking labor, so has all my work colleagues, and millions of others have and do this every day for years... what’s your point?
Correcting the record one tard at a time

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Re: Why Masks are Useless
OSHA-certified Timothy Damron had this detailed rundown on the problems with wearing masks: what they protect against and what they don’t:

[link to operationdisclosure1.blogspot.com (secure)]


I am OSHA 10&30 certified. I don’t really know WHY OSHA hasn’t come forward and stopped the nonsense... OSHA says some masks are okay and not okay in certain situations.


N95 masks: are designed for CONTAMINATED environments. That means when you exhale through N95 the design is that you are exhaling into contamination. The exhale from N95 masks are vented to breath straight out without filtration. They don’t filter the air on the way out. They don’t need to.

Conclusion: if you’re in Target and the guy with Covid has a N95 mask, his covid breath is unfiltered being exhaled into Target. N95 blows the virus into the air from a contaminated person.



Surgical Mask: these masks were designed and approved for STERILE environments. ...The surgical mask is not designed for the outside world and will not filter the virus upon inhaling through it. It’s filtration works on the exhale, to protect the patient from doctor’s breath.

..The amount of particles and contaminants in the outside and indoor environments where people are CLOGGING these masks very, VERY quickly. The moisture from your breath combined with the clogged mask will render it “useless” if you come in contact with Covid and your mask traps it, you become a walking virus dispenser.



Cloth masks: ALL of them offer NO FILTERING whatsoever. As you exhale, you are ridding your lungs of contaminants and carbon dioxide. Cloth masks trap this carbon dioxide the best. It actually risks your health, rather than protect it. The moisture caught in these masks can become mildew ridden over night. Dry coughing, enhanced allergies, sore throat are all symptoms of a micro-mold in your mask. Cloth masks are WORSE than none. It’s equivalent to using a chain link fence to stop mosquitos.

Conclusion: The CDC wants us to keep wearing masks. The masks don’t work. They’re being used to provide false comfort and push forward a specific agenda.

And here is a bona fide scientific analysis of why masks don’t protect against virus, by Dr. Dennis Rancourt a Ph.D from University of Toronto—for people asking for proof.

[link to www.sott.net (secure)]
 Quoting: midijeep

Why your comments are useless: None of the experts claim that masks are foolproof. But they do help and absolutely reduce your risk of catching covid. This has been well documented by numerous studies.

Yes you have to wear it correctly and clean it properly. I respect the opinions of medical experts who have proved the effectiveness of masks repeatedly. Those who doubt the science are likely in the flat earth camp. 90% of those nuts don't believe in masks either.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76612270


Links? The most optimistic studies I have seen so far say something like 20% reduction in Covid-19 with a _properly worn_ N95 mask.

Cloth masks? Scarves? Bandannas? No data and most likely worthless. If they were any good at stopping flu or common cold we would all have been wearing them every winter already.
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Cardiac nurse destroys mask wearing
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do you all get mad when the govt mandates you wear a seatbelt too?

or a helmet on a bike ?

do you call it tyranny when a store makes you wear shirts and shoes?

babies, all of you
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I grew up before seatbelts and bicycle helmets and I'm still here.

Shirts and shoes? Not everywhere.... go to the beach.
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Have you bothered to actually look at scientific websites for info on masks. Yes, no mask will be 100 % effective, however, the droplets that are expelled from a mask wearing Covid positive person are greatly reduced. Hence the lesser chance of passing on the virus. It's not rocket science. Wear a mask.
 Quoting: Kpduties 75530758


“Greatly reduced” sounds like “experts say” how greatly are they reduced? Why can’t you provide us with an exact number?

Show me the study of someone coughing through the mask and the “non pre contaminated” test showing positive or negative?

Where is that study? Doesn’t exists... why? Because they are not dumb, they have told you the truth, people just don’t want to listen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77626067


There are studies. While I did not quote them in my posts, that is where I got my info from.

What I read was 20% effective for a properly worn N95 mask for Covid-19. Properly worn means fitted, with the rubber seal, fresh from package, worn no longer than 3M recommendations (something like 3hrs), no touching of mask, no adjusting, no on and off, etc.


What people actually do IRL? Pshhh... yeah right.
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Have you bothered to actually look at scientific websites for info on masks. Yes, no mask will be 100 % effective, however, the droplets that are expelled from a mask wearing Covid positive person are greatly reduced. Hence the lesser chance of passing on the virus. It's not rocket science. Wear a mask.
 Quoting: Kpduties 75530758


“Greatly reduced” sounds like “experts say” how greatly are they reduced? Why can’t you provide us with an exact number?

Show me the study of someone coughing through the mask and the “non pre contaminated” test showing positive or negative?

Where is that study? Doesn’t exists... why? Because they are not dumb, they have told you the truth, people just don’t want to listen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77626067


There are studies. While I did not quote them in my posts, that is where I got my info from.

What I read was 20% effective for a properly worn N95 mask for Covid-19. Properly worn means fitted, with the rubber seal, fresh from package, worn no longer than 3M recommendations (something like 3hrs), no touching of mask, no adjusting, no on and off, etc.


What people actually do IRL? Pshhh... yeah right.
 Quoting: Constant Parad0x

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