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Just so you know I'm a Trump voter Obama hating,critical thinker.

Good to see the ONLY one's worthy of reparations, getting some good news.

I read most of the comments hear about natives and most of you are truly ignorant about how the Natives were,lived & died.

YOU only have the white mans version which,is nothing like it REALLY was.

To know you must get the history from elder Traditionalist's.

Or you can read a book series by Don Coldsmith called

the Spanish Bit Saga,which covers much of how it was before

the Spaniards first arrived.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78094886


SAPA

The black hills are our Eden, and the white dog pony soldiers cocksuckers were the snake. They didn't give us any choice but to fight or die.


Before we had contact with the whites we lived a life of abundance and freedom.
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I call bullshit on that tribes fought. You lie or you believe lies because the anger is your food so get fat but know this I don't like you and I just as soon spit on you as anything you jackass. There are plenty of bad injuns I know I was told by them how bad they are to each other not all but no fucking different than whites. I don't give a fuck where you live just not within miles of me got that motherfucker
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An Indian that is no different than a white is not an Indian


Logic is a bitch, isn't ti?
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youse got paid back for the mongol invasions,the huns,alans, ect skraelings'bulgars ect destruction of europe ...... they're ur kin !!!! nomadic raiders who got as they gave courtesy of Cristobal Colon the Converso !!! Jim Thorpe was even a Pape !!!!Could never understand the level of ButtHurt !!!
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On the subject of whether tribes fought or not the answer is obvious, they did.

What is not often mentioned is the large majority of these conflicts were caused by whites displacing Indians and forcing them onto the lands of other Indians. This was the most common cause, that and the whites paying bounties on Indians, encouraging Indians to kill other Indians of another tribe and sometimes even their own..


. 9 tribes called the black hills there spiritual center and they all coexisted there periodically. Conflicts were the result of deprivation of basic resources, and not as common as is imagined.
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I posted my response on twatter.

I now know why America is doomed. First, I said Indians(should have said native Americans) Second, I posted my .000081 inheritance(a joke for anyone with a brain stem), and Three, I’m white!

That is my crime! Which under the constitution, I can say whatever the FUCK I want. I made a joke about Elizabeth Warren, took the piss out of Indians(American Indians), and had a go at corporate fucking shit bags. I thought it was funny and hitting on all cylinders. NOPE!

I am now a racist, bigot, and Got a Fucking month ban! For what? I thought you could make jokes and speak your mind here. Not anymore, that’s out the fucking window. If you offend, deny, or hurt someone’s feelings it’s now illegal? Fuck off. I was taking a piss and I don’t care who took offense. I have the fucking right to be an asshole.

The big take away lady’s and gentlemen. I said it in humor and fun. Yet still banned by the left wing mob. This is America, if you don’t like freedom of speech, regardless of the fucking nature, intent or meaning.

GET THE FUCK OUT! I yield the rest of my time to the persons of California.
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If this is how it's gonna be, they should be removed from western culture completely. No more modern lifestyle.
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Exactly.

They should payback all the money received by the government.

Gee get your ass kicked and collect a check?

What kind of bullshit is this?
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Especially that Lakota “Warrior” that likes to talk crap on here. He should lose his benefits today.
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I tell you what, asshole, you pay us back the billions you stole from us and we'll call it even.
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I just love all the "We wuz Kangz and shat, before the white man came" talk. Like all the intercine warfare between tribes wasn't a thing. I'll write you a check on my left ass cheek. All you need to do to cash it is kiss it.
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Exactly.

They should payback all the money received by the government.

Gee get your ass kicked and collect a check?

What kind of bullshit is this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18509245


Especially that Lakota “Warrior” that likes to talk crap on here. He should lose his benefits today.
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I tell you what, asshole, you pay us back the billions you stole from us and we'll call it even.
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I just love all the "We wuz Kangz and shat, before the white man came" talk. Like all the intercine warfare between tribes wasn't a thing. I'll write you a check on my left ass cheek. All you need to do to cash it is kiss it.
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How about I just shit down your neck, instead?
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I posted my response on twatter.

I now know why America is doomed. First, I said Indians(should have said native Americans) Second, I posted my .000081 inheritance(a joke for anyone with a brain stem), and Three, I’m white!

That is my crime! Which under the constitution, I can say whatever the FUCK I want. I made a joke about Elizabeth Warren, took the piss out of Indians(American Indians), and had a go at corporate fucking shit bags. I thought it was funny and hitting on all cylinders. NOPE!

I am now a racist, bigot, and Got a Fucking month ban! For what? I thought you could make jokes and speak your mind here. Not anymore, that’s out the fucking window. If you offend, deny, or hurt someone’s feelings it’s now illegal? Fuck off. I was taking a piss and I don’t care who took offense. I have the fucking right to be an asshole.

The big take away lady’s and gentlemen. I said it in humor and fun. Yet still banned by the left wing mob. This is America, if you don’t like freedom of speech, regardless of the fucking nature, intent or meaning.

GET THE FUCK OUT! I yield the rest of my time to the persons of California.
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You sound like a fucking asshole to me. I bet you are, too.
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Just so you know I'm a Trump voter Obama hating,critical thinker.

Good to see the ONLY one's worthy of reparations, getting some good news.

I read most of the comments hear about natives and most of you are truly ignorant about how the Natives were,lived & died.

YOU only have the white mans version which,is nothing like it REALLY was.

To know you must get the history from elder Traditionalist's.

Or you can read a book series by Don Coldsmith called

the Spanish Bit Saga,which covers much of how it was before

the Spaniards first arrived.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78094886


SAPA

The black hills are our Eden, and the white dog pony soldiers cocksuckers were the snake. They didn't give us any choice but to fight or die.


Before we had contact with the whites we lived a life of abundance and freedom.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76060539

I call bullshit on that tribes fought. You lie or you believe lies because the anger is your food so get fat but know this I don't like you and I just as soon spit on you as anything you jackass. There are plenty of bad injuns I know I was told by them how bad they are to each other not all but no fucking different than whites. I don't give a fuck where you live just not within miles of me got that motherfucker
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An Indian that is no different than a white is not an Indian


Logic is a bitch, isn't ti?
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That is not logic thats just words
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The Supreme Court Ruling means big changes coming to the American Indians living in Oklahoma. Surveyors are currently drawing up new zones for all there people. Residents living in the occupied zones will be receiving formal eviction notices in the near future. Moving allowances will be given to all civilians that live in the new territory.
Exciting times for all american indians! Prosperity is here for you all.
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Nothing is going to change bc of this. I mean nothing big. They aren’t going to cede everything East of Indian Nation Turnpike to the Indians....it’s already a giant reservation. Cherokee Nation. I think this idea that they are diving up the country is fud and bs.
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I think it is GREAT NEWS.

Having had the flood of the white man, the native Oklahoma folk are certainly not going to want a flood of Latinos from over the border or refugees from Syria. Believe me, that border with Mexico there is going to be rock solid.

And lets see BLM try their nonsense of burning down the local Sheriff's office - Their blood will be running in the streets.

They have fought for over 100 year now to get this land back and they certainly won't hand it back to BLM or the refugees without a huge and bloody fight.
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The worst will be the black afican hoards
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He was such a smart man with a genuinely broad grasp of history and humans. So so sorry he's gone :(
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

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Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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it's time we give back the Indians back their land, most whites are just squatters.

the Indians need to collect all the property taxes it's their land
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Show us the deed.
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Just so you know I'm a Trump voter Obama hating,critical thinker.

Good to see the ONLY one's worthy of reparations, getting some good news.

I read most of the comments hear about natives and most of you are truly ignorant about how the Natives were,lived & died.

YOU only have the white mans version which,is nothing like it REALLY was.

To know you must get the history from elder Traditionalist's.

Or you can read a book series by Don Coldsmith called

the Spanish Bit Saga,which covers much of how it was before

the Spaniards first arrived.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78094886


SAPA

The black hills are our Eden, and the white dog pony soldiers cocksuckers were the snake. They didn't give us any choice but to fight or die.


Before we had contact with the whites we lived a life of abundance and freedom.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76060539


The year is 2020 . There are almost 8 billion people on earth.

The USA has hundreds of millions of people living here.

The USA has people from all over the earth living here.

NO MATTER what you think about Indian land.. America was going to be settled by people from all over the world.. no matter what!

The world is meant to be inhabited by people.. all types
What if the Chinese were the first to settle the USA..
Do you believe if the USA was a Chinese colony that things would have ended well for the natives?
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Gorgeous Apache man:

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In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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I'm part Cherokee, part white. I'm 30% and the rest is mostly Irsih/English/Scottish. If I wanted I'm sure I could get some kind of benefits or become a tribal member. That being said I've never felt anything other than American. I don't consider myself white or Indian, I just feel like a normal American and I'm sure that's how most people feel. I think they're setting a dangerous precedent with this. Reparations will be next based on these kind of decisions, I don't agree with it.
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clappa

Yes!! Finally a voice of reason that I have been somewhat lazily sifting through this thread for. Thank you, Maurice McMurdo.

I too am possibly around 50% Cherokee myself and the rest of me being European and Asian. I, too could probably get such Benefits provided I could actually prove this about my bloodline. I lost contact with the family member of mine who could provide that accurate information though.

I also am quite worried what a precedence that this stuff is setting for us all. Which is why I said in another post in this thread that it is just a matter of time now before Texas, the remainder of Oklahoma, and New Mexico are all given back to Mexico.
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He was such a smart man with a genuinely broad grasp of history and humans. So so sorry he's gone :(
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Oren Lyons is another great voice.
The native tribes sought everlasting peace, yet are called savages.


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You guy, the Supreme Court ruling for American Indians in Oklahoma has to do with criminal justice
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I meant, "you guys" plural.
How this got so misunderstood and Not what the topic is about is beyond me - oh yeah, no link was provided on the first page - utter nonsense - and posters ran with it - be careful - think for yourselves and do your own homework when something doesn't seem right.
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Just so you know I'm a Trump voter Obama hating,critical thinker.

Good to see the ONLY one's worthy of reparations, getting some good news.

I read most of the comments hear about natives and most of you are truly ignorant about how the Natives were,lived & died.

YOU only have the white mans version which,is nothing like it REALLY was.

To know you must get the history from elder Traditionalist's.

Or you can read a book series by Don Coldsmith called

the Spanish Bit Saga,which covers much of how it was before

the Spaniards first arrived.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78094886


SAPA

The black hills are our Eden, and the white dog pony soldiers cocksuckers were the snake. They didn't give us any choice but to fight or die.


Before we had contact with the whites we lived a life of abundance and freedom.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76060539


The year is 2020 . There are almost 8 billion people on earth.

The USA has hundreds of millions of people living here.

The USA has people from all over the earth living here.

NO MATTER what you think about Indian land.. America was going to be settled by people from all over the world.. no matter what!

The world is meant to be inhabited by people.. all types
What if the Chinese were the first to settle the USA..
Do you believe if the USA was a Chinese colony that things would have ended well for the natives?
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You can live wherever you want to, and if you honor our ways you can live on our land.

If you come to take it expect a fight.
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He was such a smart man with a genuinely broad grasp of history and humans. So so sorry he's gone :(
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Oren Lyons is another great voice.
The native tribes sought everlasting peace, yet are called savages.


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Every time we tried to be civil to them they stabbed us in the back. EVERY SINGLE TIME


And we were the uncivilized ones.

In our beliefs civilization is based on ideas of keeping your word, a mans word was an iron clad contract.
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Just so you know I'm a Trump voter Obama hating,critical thinker.

Good to see the ONLY one's worthy of reparations, getting some good news.

I read most of the comments hear about natives and most of you are truly ignorant about how the Natives were,lived & died.

YOU only have the white mans version which,is nothing like it REALLY was.

To know you must get the history from elder Traditionalist's.

Or you can read a book series by Don Coldsmith called

the Spanish Bit Saga,which covers much of how it was before

the Spaniards first arrived.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78094886


SAPA

The black hills are our Eden, and the white dog pony soldiers cocksuckers were the snake. They didn't give us any choice but to fight or die.


Before we had contact with the whites we lived a life of abundance and freedom.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76060539


The year is 2020 . There are almost 8 billion people on earth.

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In 2 years it will be half that.

A great war between the whites is coming, it will be you fighting your own race across the ocean. I believe Russia and possibly parts of Europe. We are tucked away in wastelands, relatively safe from what is coming. THE BLACK HILLS ARE OURS
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If this is how it's gonna be, they should be removed from western culture completely. No more modern lifestyle.
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Exactly.

They should payback all the money received by the government.

Gee get your ass kicked and collect a check?

What kind of bullshit is this?
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You still don't get it do you. This isn't the Biblical Earth. It was you who got beaten down by the same suffering and anguish your ilk carelessly dealt to the real human beings saying "oh its nothing, i'd still keep faith" and really lost all of it and turned into the same degenerate violent thing you viewed your many victims as. After being given more chances than has ever been offered.

This "life" your living is your last stop in existence. For some ungodly reason.. theres a chance for you to repent still. doubt you will. after all. its not "COOL, BRO"
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People are Still bickering even after I posted a link with a video of what this is all about ??
Unbelievable - guess some just want to fight when there's Nothing to fight about here - at all !
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Check out the map!!
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Check out the map!!
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Yep, TRILLIONS in resources, and they belong to INDIANS. And that map DOES NOT show ALL of the treaty lands, it only shows the ones that have been recognized. There are numerous nations in the east not on the map.
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it's time we give back the Indians back their land, most whites are just squatters.

the Indians need to collect all the property taxes it's their land
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Show us the deed.
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The Treaty of Fort Laramie (also the Sioux Treaty of 1868) is an agreement between the United States and the Oglala, Miniconjou, and Brulé bands of Lakota people, Yanktonai Dakota and Arapaho Nation, following the failure of the first Fort Laramie treaty, signed in 1851.

The treaty is divided into 17 articles. It established the Great Sioux Reservation including ownership of the Black Hills, and set aside additional lands as "unceded Indian territory" in areas of South Dakota, Wyoming, and Nebraska, and possibly Montana.[c] It established that the US government would hold authority to punish not only white settlers who committed crimes against the tribes, but also tribe members who committed crimes and who were to be delivered to the government rather than face charges in tribal courts. It stipulated that the government would abandon forts along the Bozeman Trail, and included a number of provisions designed to encourage a transition to farming, and move the tribes "closer to the white man's way of life." The treaty protected specified rights of third parties not partaking in the negotiations, and effectively ended Red Cloud's War. This provision did not include the Ponca who were not a party to this treaty and therefore had no opportunity to object when the American treaty negotiators “inadvertently” broke a separate treaty with the Ponca by unlawfully selling the entirety of the Ponca Reservation to the Lakota pursuant to Article II of this treaty.[3] The United States never intervened to return the Ponca land. Instead, the Lakota claimed the Ponca land as their own and set about attacking and demanding tribute from the Ponca until 1876 when President Ulysses S. Grant chose to resolve the situation by unilaterally ordering the Ponca removed to the Indian Territory. The removal, known as the Ponca Trail of Tears, was carried out by force the following year and resulted in over 200 deaths.

The treaty was negotiated by members of the government-appointed Indian Peace Commission, and signed between April and November 1868 at and near Fort Laramie in the Wyoming Territory, with the final signatories being Red Cloud himself and others who accompanied him. Animosities over the agreement arose quickly, with neither side fully honoring the terms. Open war again broke out in 1876, and the US government unilaterally annexed native land protected under the treaty in 1877.

The treaty formed the basis of the 1980 Supreme Court case, United States v. Sioux Nation of Indians, in which the court ruled that tribal lands covered under the treaty had been taken illegally by the US government, and the tribe was owed compensation plus interest. As of 2018 this amounted to more than $1 billion. The Sioux have refused the payment, demanding instead the return of their land.
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I can't give you the ultimate truth ,it's all a matter of perspective and spin. So I empower you with the gift of discernment.
SEE THE TRUTH , KNOW THE TRUTH, FEEL
THE TRUTH
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Justice is coming

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Have a NICE day
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Justice is coming

Remember me?

Have a NICE day
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Destruction is coming, servitude is coming, mass hunger and poverty are coming.
Mass deaths are coming and takeover by a communist regimen is coming.
Racial purity is coming, death camps are coming.

Neither the Blacks nor the Indigenous peoples can protect the nation against China.

Remember Me , when your the third class citizen to a Chinese Lord.

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