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Has anyone here ever actually lived in a communist country?

 
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For 20 years.
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Wasn't that bad, right? I mean if we compare it with today's EU. I don't know about Czechoslovakia but in Yugoslavia living standard was better then it is today.
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Unlike today life was safe and crime-free, what I miss most especially for children.

But the economy had been stagnating mainly b/c of bureaucracy and the outdated ideology.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75544390


Melania's parents had to flee Yugoslavia because they hated communism and were on Tit's target list, Trumo got them all out, thank god
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78592066


That's not true. Melania's parents didn't flee Yugoslavia and they still leave here, have the family house in Slovenia and all. If somebody wanted to leave they just packed and move. You were allowed to leave the country back then. And I'm pretty sure nobody was chasing them out of the country. Yugoslavian regime did not chase people in a form that KGB or stasi did.
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Currently in the US. I read the The Gulag Archipelago. It is unfolding in real time in the west but now with tech. Solzhenitsyn had no way to know this.
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I've lived in a Democracy, under Military rule, been in Communist countries (USSR and Eastern Europe), and visited the Middle East (Monarchy).

And the worst by far is Democracy...because they pander the most to minorities/ethnic groups for votes, and the women are the most arrogant.

Women in the former USSR and Eastern Euroope, are the best. Also the most racist Whites are present there, and no Black/ethnic Presidents such as Obongo Obama. Or worshipping NFL, bakkeball players, hollywood trash and other skum!

flip


ps; China and N.Korea are fake Communist Countries....actually they are Asian Empires, in the likes of Quin Shih Huang, Attila, Genghis Khan, Timur, Imperial Japan.
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DEBTS PAID, ROMANIA SAYS

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Romanian leader Nicolae Ceausescu announced this week that his country, despite an economy that a recent U.S. congressional report called the second poorest in Europe, has paid off all of its foreign debts ahead of schedule.


I have never been to Romania, so take it with a grain of salt. But there was an anecdote around the time they killed Ceausescu that had him say those who followed will not be able to paint what he built.

Romania's current external debt is about 120 billion USD.


What is the price of freedom?
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Romanian communism was the worst, much harsher then what they had in USSR if we ignore the gulaks.
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I have.

It felt far, far less communist (in the negative sense of the word) than either Canada or USA today, however.
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That's because we're in the destabilization phase. Where they pump up the useful idiots to tear down statues and destroy the "four olds."

Once the "revolution" is over, the Antifa/BLM types are ruthlessly crushed because they present a threat to the new order.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77243755



Of course. Low rank Antifa/BLM. Leaders will get reassigned.


When I arrived to Canada, in school I had to read 1984. There was a unanimous consensus among the students and the teacher the book was about Soviet Union.

I said, well, it is taking place in London not Moscow. The teacher and the students laughed at me. That was 30 years ago.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78965170


Yep you were ahead of your time.
This is the kind of insight I was curious about: what people who had lived under communism think of the Western slide towards leftism today.
I lived in a “pre-communist” nation in the early 1970s and left just before the country went actual-communist. I was very lucky.
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And now you find yourself in a similar situation to the one you left in the early 70s.

What nation were you in?

Do you see many parallels with the current US situation?

Will you leave here too? Where would you go and why?

Since this appears to be the final push in a global communist takeover, is there anywhere left to go?

Sorry for all the questions. Dint mean to come across as rude and I dont expect you'll answer them all. If you answer any, that would be truly appreciated though.
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Just curious.
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In a certain way, yes. The US military is a very close proxy for Communism. Think about it for a bit and you will realize it is very true. The military sucks ass by the way. It is still better than true Communism though, because it gets an endless supply of money from a larger, healthier economy. If it had to make do for itself, it would be a nightmare.
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DEBTS PAID, ROMANIA SAYS

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Romanian leader Nicolae Ceausescu announced this week that his country, despite an economy that a recent U.S. congressional report called the second poorest in Europe, has paid off all of its foreign debts ahead of schedule.


I have never been to Romania, so take it with a grain of salt. But there was an anecdote around the time they killed Ceausescu that had him say those who followed will not be able to paint what he built.

Romania's current external debt is about 120 billion USD.


What is the price of freedom?
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Romanian communism was the worst, much harsher then what they had in USSR if we ignore the gulaks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79116649


There is another thread floating around about brahmacharya, sacred celibacy. And Spartans, they had it much worse than Romanians.

I guess Nicolae overestimated his own people. They are just a bunch of proles.
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Wasn't that bad, right? I mean if we compare it with today's EU. I don't know about Czechoslovakia but in Yugoslavia living standard was better then it is today.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79116649


Unlike today life was safe and crime-free, what I miss most especially for children.

But the economy had been stagnating mainly b/c of bureaucracy and the outdated ideology.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75544390


Melania's parents had to flee Yugoslavia because they hated communism and were on Tit's target list, Trumo got them all out, thank god
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78592066


That's not true. Melania's parents didn't flee Yugoslavia and they still leave here, have the family house in Slovenia and all. If somebody wanted to leave they just packed and move. You were allowed to leave the country back then. And I'm pretty sure nobody was chasing them out of the country. Yugoslavian regime did not chase people in a form that KGB or stasi did.
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Trump is very shrewd! He blasts Marxism/Communism for political reasons, but his wife is imported form a former Communist country.

He's had enough of the gold-digging, hollywood brainwashed, Western capitalistic-democratic whores. So he got a nice humble, communist-trained, Slavic woman!


cool2
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As kid I went to russia on vacation and that was pretty cewl, I guess it gets boring when you are older and have to maintain the livingstyle
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Unlike today life was safe and crime-free, what I miss most especially for children.

But the economy had been stagnating mainly b/c of bureaucracy and the outdated ideology.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75544390


Melania's parents had to flee Yugoslavia because they hated communism and were on Tit's target list, Trumo got them all out, thank god
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78592066


That's not true. Melania's parents didn't flee Yugoslavia and they still leave here, have the family house in Slovenia and all. If somebody wanted to leave they just packed and move. You were allowed to leave the country back then. And I'm pretty sure nobody was chasing them out of the country. Yugoslavian regime did not chase people in a form that KGB or stasi did.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79116649


Trump is very shrewd! He blasts Marxism/Communism for political reasons, but his wife is imported form a former Communist country.

He's had enough of the gold-digging, hollywood brainwashed, Western capitalistic-democratic whores. So he got a nice humble, communist-trained, Slavic woman!


cool2
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ha ha! brilliant!!!

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DEBTS PAID, ROMANIA SAYS

[link to www.washingtonpost.com (secure)]

Romanian leader Nicolae Ceausescu announced this week that his country, despite an economy that a recent U.S. congressional report called the second poorest in Europe, has paid off all of its foreign debts ahead of schedule.


I have never been to Romania, so take it with a grain of salt. But there was an anecdote around the time they killed Ceausescu that had him say those who followed will not be able to paint what he built.

Romania's current external debt is about 120 billion USD.


What is the price of freedom?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78965170



No, that's the price of political illiteracy, to allow communist secret services to fully control economy and politics after 1990s. Lack of understanding on how the world works made Romania an easy target for the few that new how to control the crowds and economy. It happened they were the ex communist elite. So now Romania ended up with the most common form of government, oligarchy.
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Just curious.
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The elite have everything AND THE average joe is dirt poor and treated like a slave..
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Unlike today life was safe and crime-free, what I miss most especially for children.

But the economy had been stagnating mainly b/c of bureaucracy and the outdated ideology.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75544390


Melania's parents had to flee Yugoslavia because they hated communism and were on Tit's target list, Trumo got them all out, thank god
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78592066


That's not true. Melania's parents didn't flee Yugoslavia and they still leave here, have the family house in Slovenia and all. If somebody wanted to leave they just packed and move. You were allowed to leave the country back then. And I'm pretty sure nobody was chasing them out of the country. Yugoslavian regime did not chase people in a form that KGB or stasi did.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79116649


Trump is very shrewd! He blasts Marxism/Communism for political reasons, but his wife is imported form a former Communist country.

He's had enough of the gold-digging, hollywood brainwashed, Western capitalistic-democratic whores. So he got a nice humble, communist-trained, Slavic woman!


cool2
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Hehe ... not only wife. The nanny who cared for Ivanka, Eric and Donald was also from a Communist country. Where she attended a military school prior to leaving for the USA:

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)]


She took the job very seriously too, and once reportedly said during an interview that she always kept a gun on her because she was concerned for the safety of the Trump children.

And Milisavljevic knew how to use a gun as well, having enrolled in military school before making the decision to travel to America.
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Just curious.
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PRP and DDR for 5 weeks. go to a ghetto anywhere in the US and you will have more.
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Re: Has anyone here ever actually lived in a communist country?
I have.

It felt far, far less communist (in the negative sense of the word) than either Canada or USA today, however.
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That's because we're in the destabilization phase. Where they pump up the useful idiots to tear down statues and destroy the "four olds."

Once the "revolution" is over, the Antifa/BLM types are ruthlessly crushed because they present a threat to the new order.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77243755



Of course. Low rank Antifa/BLM. Leaders will get reassigned.


When I arrived to Canada, in school I had to read 1984. There was a unanimous consensus among the students and the teacher the book was about Soviet Union.

I said, well, it is taking place in London not Moscow. The teacher and the students laughed at me. That was 30 years ago.
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Indeed Russia has turned into a semi-desirable place to live while the US and England are turning into the shitholes. Good call.
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Just curious.
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The elite have everything AND THE average joe is dirt poor and treated like a slave..
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NO-JOB= parasite-prison labour
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I'm from the US and I had to read 1984 in high school.
Why are you boasting again about being from Canada and reading 1984???

The book is about communism.

So is the Giver. Another book that is usually read at English speaking high schools.

Most horror utopia or "dystopia" books like "A Brave New World" , "1984" , "Hunger Games", "Divergent" are about the disgusting complacency of communism/nazism


I have.

It felt far, far less communist (in the negative sense of the word) than either Canada or USA today, however.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78965170

That's because we're in the destabilization phase. Where they pump up the useful idiots to tear down statues and destroy the "four olds."

Once the "revolution" is over, the Antifa/BLM types are ruthlessly crushed because they present a threat to the new order.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77243755



Of course. Low rank Antifa/BLM. Leaders will get reassigned.


When I arrived to Canada, in school I had to read 1984. There was a unanimous consensus among the students and the teacher the book was about Soviet Union.

I said, well, it is taking place in London not Moscow. The teacher and the students laughed at me. That was 30 years ago.
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Just curious.
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In a certain way, yes. The US military is a very close proxy for Communism. Think about it for a bit and you will realize it is very true. The military sucks ass by the way. It is still better than true Communism though, because it gets an endless supply of money from a larger, healthier economy. If it had to make do for itself, it would be a nightmare.
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USA is the perfect Western capitalistic democracy. Nothing to do with Communism.

The pandering of minorities for votes, is a classic sign of Western capitalist democracies.

Ever seen a darkie of 3rd world origin, like Obongo, as the leader of the USSR?

Hordes of ethnics, of 3rd world origins, are on the verge of seizing total countrol of USA. Never happened in USSR.


lmao
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All my life, I'm posting from North Korea, I would never want to set foot into capitalistic country, here everything is free
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Nothing is ever free
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No. However, I have been to a couple. One before the Berlin Wall, one after. Both times, I got the distinct feeling I was being bullshited by the local authorities.

We had escorts. We were taken to the "everyone is happy" places. As a teen, it was quite interesting and reminds a lot of the direction America is headed now.
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All my life, I'm posting from North Korea, I would never want to set foot into capitalistic country, here everything is free
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Nothing is ever free
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Cheese in mouse trap is free.
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I lived only till I was 6. It all ended in 1991. My parents remember everything. They were not involved in communism, because they are Christians.
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How were they treated as Christians in the nation prior to 1991?
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They hated Christians, my parents were not able to get gold medal after schools only because they were Christians. Christians were not able to get good jobs, because if you are not in communist party, you are nothing. My dad was beaten in army because he signed a paper, that he is Christian and not going to touch weapons. I'm just like him, and never had a gun and never will.
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Jesus gives us what we need when we need it. He also let's us be tempted to have what we want, and with what we think we need.
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Melania's parents had to flee Yugoslavia because they hated communism and were on Tit's target list, Trumo got them all out, thank god
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78592066


That's not true. Melania's parents didn't flee Yugoslavia and they still leave here, have the family house in Slovenia and all. If somebody wanted to leave they just packed and move. You were allowed to leave the country back then. And I'm pretty sure nobody was chasing them out of the country. Yugoslavian regime did not chase people in a form that KGB or stasi did.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79116649


Trump is very shrewd! He blasts Marxism/Communism for political reasons, but his wife is imported form a former Communist country.

He's had enough of the gold-digging, hollywood brainwashed, Western capitalistic-democratic whores. So he got a nice humble, communist-trained, Slavic woman!


cool2
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Hehe ... not only wife. The nanny who cared for Ivanka, Eric and Donald was also from a Communist country. Where she attended a military school prior to leaving for the USA:

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)]


She took the job very seriously too, and once reportedly said during an interview that she always kept a gun on her because she was concerned for the safety of the Trump children.

And Milisavljevic knew how to use a gun as well, having enrolled in military school before making the decision to travel to America.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78965170


Yup, after 2 divorces....Trump's had enough with the local, Western capitalistic-democratic whores!

Hence Melania.

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Yes. I lived in Nanjing, China for 2 years.

I know all about commie shit holes and commie shit heads.
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Why did you live there?
Were you a capitalist living there using Communism to make your widgets?
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I lived only till I was 6. It all ended in 1991. My parents remember everything. They were not involved in communism, because they are Christians.
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How were they treated as Christians in the nation prior to 1991?
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They hated Christians, my parents were not able to get gold medal after schools only because they were Christians. Christians were not able to get good jobs, because if you are not in communist party, you are nothing. My dad was beaten in army because he signed a paper, that he is Christian and not going to touch weapons. I'm just like him, and never had a gun and never will.
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Jesus gives us what we need when we need it. He also let's us be tempted to have what we want, and with what we think we need.
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I have this beautiful day, health and place to sleep. Don't need anything else.
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That's because we're in the destabilization phase. Where they pump up the useful idiots to tear down statues and destroy the "four olds."

Once the "revolution" is over, the Antifa/BLM types are ruthlessly crushed because they present a threat to the new order.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77243755



Of course. Low rank Antifa/BLM. Leaders will get reassigned.


When I arrived to Canada, in school I had to read 1984. There was a unanimous consensus among the students and the teacher the book was about Soviet Union.

I said, well, it is taking place in London not Moscow. The teacher and the students laughed at me. That was 30 years ago.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78965170


Yep you were ahead of your time.
This is the kind of insight I was curious about: what people who had lived under communism think of the Western slide towards leftism today.
I lived in a “pre-communist” nation in the early 1970s and left just before the country went actual-communist. I was very lucky.
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And now you find yourself in a similar situation to the one you left in the early 70s.

What nation were you in?

Do you see many parallels with the current US situation?

Will you leave here too? Where would you go and why?

Since this appears to be the final push in a global communist takeover, is there anywhere left to go?

Sorry for all the questions. Dint mean to come across as rude and I dont expect you'll answer them all. If you answer any, that would be truly appreciated though.
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I don’t generally give out private info on the net but I’ve already let it know I lived in the Cambodia before it went communist. The political situation was very vague but things happened there very very quickly. I would say it was not like the US and not like the Soviet iron bloc either. One minute they had a king and a kind of medieval system, then they passed very quickly through non-communist rule under a leader named Lon Nol, and then suddenly they were communist.

The situation in Cambodia was almost unique because the communist army was very “back woods” uneducated mountain people plus child soldiers...like junior high school kids drinking from toilets because they had never seen one and thought it was a well. They actually blew up the bank and declared no more money; they forced everyone to leave the city until it was abandoned and work in the fields until they dropped dead. Everyone had to wear the same clothes, the plan was for all houses to be identical, communal meals with the work unit, destruction of the family. Anything urban or modern was evil and left abandoned. There was tension betweeen different ethnicities and some parts of the country were worse than others.,Actually it has been compared by scholars to a very strict insane murderous theravada Buddhist discipline system like a kind of national monestary with guns. Fortunately I was long gone by that time. The process was so extreme that the rise and fall happened very quickly compared with USSR or China.

I don’t see Cambodia in America but the “thought reform” and tearing down of any old statue, etc. is frighteningly similar to China and and Cambodian ideals in the 1970s. Of course the scale is weaker in the US but things can quickly escalate. In 2 years Phnom Phen went from being a civilized pleasant city with modern hotels and hospitals to being a ghost city emptied of all urban dwellers on a forced march to turn them into useless farmers.
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No. However, I have been to a couple. One before the Berlin Wall, one after. Both times, I got the distinct feeling I was being bullshited by the local authorities.

We had escorts. We were taken to the "everyone is happy" places. As a teen, it was quite interesting and reminds a lot of the direction America is headed now.
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lol...

you're NOT heading for the Communist USSR type model.

They had a good stable life, while it lasted....until the lunatic Ronald Reagan destablized them.

It was also a superpower, with great scientifc acheivements such as space technology and aerospace.


PLUS A LOT OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL AND FANTASTIC WOMEN!

HUMBLE, SUBMISSIVE, and ALSO BEHAVED as WOMEN SHOULD

UNLIKE THE WESTERN CAPITALISTIC-DEMOCRACTIC, GOLD-DIGGING TV and HOLLYWOOD BRAINWASHED WHORES!


You're really heading for a 3rd wolrd sh*thole status,....like Nigeria, Pakistan, South Africa and Bangladesh.


lol
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I have.

It felt far, far less communist (in the negative sense of the word) than either Canada or USA today, however.
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The global tech and corps is a whole different spin on this.
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You had bread lines and low workers wage.
Labor groups and unions were that would fight for higher wages were banned. The government kept wages low.

This is why the Communist Model is attractive to the Bankers and Global Corporations. No pesky worker rights, pollution controls, political representation and so on.

The USA is very similar where the corporations control our government and killed off all the unions.
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The fight against communism is a constant battle, even in non-Communist countries. There are many grifters and freeloaders. The fastest way to become a Communist nation is to work for or accept money from the government.





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