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Suffering from stunted dream development and have crappy pitiful dream experiences. Let's fix that with some dream training!

 
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Dreaming is a very great skill to develop. On average, every human produces 3-5 dreams every night. Every mammal with a brain dreams and some birds dream. Dreaming is part of our cognitive development and a major role dreams play is long-term memory consolidation known as 'replay'. This 'replay' of our waking life experiences help build better memory for the skills and experiences we acquire in our lives.

It has taken a long time for science to understand why we dream, more so that dreaming is a developmental skill like learning to read, learning to play the piano and our mind does develop neural pathways (white-matter) and neurons (grey-matter) to process the information that produces the dream experience.

If you struggle with dream recall, this is linked to stunted development in the medial pre-frontal cortex where fMRI research into dream recall between people who have high-frequency dream recall and those who have low-frequency dream recall. The difference between these two groups of people is neural-pathway (white-matter) density.

Here is the study:
Dream Recall Frequency Is Associated With Medial Prefrontal Cortex White-Matter Density
[link to internal-journal.frontiersin.org (secure)]

People who have stunted dream development largely make no effort to remember dreams ergo these neural pathways go into a state of cognitive atrophy. Neural Pathways develop with repeat use of a skill and decline if we stop using a skill. Much like muscles which develop with stimulation through exercise, so to does the dreaming mind when we start to actively participate in the 3-5 dreams we produce each night.

The stunted development of the dreaming mind also affects the somatosensory cortex and regions that deal with our 5 senses. If you only have visual/audible dreams but lack touch, taste, smell then these other regions of the brain that deal with sensory-replay of the five senses are also under developed and in a state of atrophy. Just like memory regions, research into the somatosensory cortex and regions show the same development of neural pathways for those who have sensory replay of specific senses vs those who do not get those sensory experiences as replay in their dreams.

Dreaming should be all five senses in replay. We also know that the sensory regions of the brain store sensory memory and this is what our brain references for the sensory replay within our dream experience. This to can be corrected with proper stimulation training and it's well worth training for sensory-replay as it provides a richer, more realistic dream environment that makes dreaming natures perfected virtual reality simulator.

Another region of the dreaming mind that often become stunted and under-developed is in the prefrontal cortex where your sense of self-awareness, reason, logic and personality resides. When this shuts down you have no awareness that you are dreaming and this too can be developed with stimulation training so you can become fully self-aware and active in the dream experience, just as you are now. What this brings to the table is your ability to think and make choices that otherwise is lost to a trance-like state where most are unable to realize they are dreaming at all until they wake up.

Where this practice becomes fun is we can exploit the 'replay' aspect of how dreams consolidate long-term memory and use 'source-material' like a video game, movie, TV show, walk in the park as reference for active dream-replay so dreams can become very artistic fun and entertaining. What ever 'source-material' you decide to use for dream training is a personal choice. Using an animated audible/visual source-material helps with stimulation and like any artist who uses a reference for their art, an active dreamer can use anything from our waking world as a resource for creative dreaming. I leave that up to you as everyone is different with different tastes. I just recommend not using 'source-material' that might invoke fear and produce nightmares. Make it pleasant and fun.

Since dreaming is developmental it does take time to address cognitive atrophy and develop the skill required to produce epic dream experiences. But the reward is having a nice skill to invoke really great experiences that sometimes can be even better than waking life. With a little training and know-how dream participation can be a rewarding skill to learn.

Check it out... and start living your second-life. You deserve it.

[link to dreamingforgamers.com (secure)]

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Oh, I could show you there's a lot more to dreams. Been waiting for you to post this.

Let's share a dream together soon and I will teach you things that will follow you into the waking world.

Lately I've been learning how to levitate, I already have the astral projection down, and the telepathy and the clairvoyance.

This a war being waged and we could use your help.
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Oh, I could show you there's a lot more to dreams. Been waiting for you to post this.

Let's share a dream together soon and I will teach you things that will follow you into the waking world.

Lately I've been learning how to levitate, I already have the astral projection down, and the telepathy and the clairvoyance.

This a war being waged and we could use your help.
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Oh trust me, I already know but most can't start at the end of the rabbit hole rather the beginning.
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Oh, I could show you there's a lot more to dreams. Been waiting for you to post this.

Let's share a dream together soon and I will teach you things that will follow you into the waking world.

Lately I've been learning how to levitate, I already have the astral projection down, and the telepathy and the clairvoyance.

This a war being waged and we could use your help.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71408772


Oh trust me, I already know but most can't start at the end of the rabbit hole rather the beginning.
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Let me teach you something. Designate a place to meet, tell me how you can recognize me.
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Very cool - I’ll check it out !
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Very cool - I’ll check it out !
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Thanks... hope it helps to spice up your dream life.
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It's not a dream yoga thing, this is way beyond dream yoga because it's geared around neuroscience, cognitive development, the science of memory consolidation and replay, and how to stimulate atrophic neural pathways and neurons that have gone neglected due to no stimulation to bring memory, awareness and perception out of atrophy.

It would be dream yoga on crack but to dream in video game influences or movie influences ;) You know... master the dreaming arts to dream cool shit.

It's not a Frued/Jung psychoanalytical site for interpreting dream content... rather about influencing and programming dream content. To you know... bang hot dream avatars, drink at Moxy's tavern from Borderlands 3 or... whatever floats the boat. Just dreaming for fun and entertainment while becoming a Jedi at the art of dream control.
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Looking forward to exploring this info. Thanks! :)
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Oh, I could show you there's a lot more to dreams. Been waiting for you to post this.

Let's share a dream together soon and I will teach you things that will follow you into the waking world.

Lately I've been learning how to levitate, I already have the astral projection down, and the telepathy and the clairvoyance.

This a war being waged and we could use your help.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71408772


Oh trust me, I already know but most can't start at the end of the rabbit hole rather the beginning.
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


Let me teach you something. Designate a place to meet, tell me how you can recognize me.
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now you're getting into sleepwalking or astral walking, if you get strong enough you can have a phsysical effcts on the waking world from our dreams/mind
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I don't like other people's interpretations of MY dreams.
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Looking forward to exploring this info. Thanks! :)
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For sure, it's fun. I like dreaming for entertainment, that is what has kept me hooked on seeing what kind of waking world influence ie movie, game etc I can train in to then dream equal to or better than that artistically so to speak.

Even though it was first noted in 2001 for the Tetris effect then studied in 2008 in Video Games influences on dream content... it's something we all likely have and done since childhood but may not have noticed those influences or at least stop to ponder how to make those dreams even more rockstar.

Here's some links to the science of video game dreaming, yes it's real studied thing:
[link to dreamingforgamers.com (secure)]

And some examples from my journal entries:
[link to dreamingforgamers.com (secure)]
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Are you promoting your site or something?
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I don't like other people's interpretations of MY dreams.
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Exactly, and when I teach dreaming I just say... look you close your eyes and there is the canvas. Your thoughts, experiences, memories are the paint. Have at it... here's some skills and science to help add more tools/brushes to add to your arsenal for your personal dreaming VR console.

No telling you what to dream, just how to dream based on scientifically studied techniques and neuroscience. This to me is a better approach for creative types.

Here's the keys, there's the car... go drive as long/hard/fast as you want.
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iv always been fascinated with dreaming, but sadly i feel like i lost the ability to dream. probably from all the weed.. lol, anyway i think this is a great topic and should be discussed more here.

i feel there is alot i dont know about dreaming and all that astral stuff you guys talk about, but i would love to know more.

can you tell me what things could sound unbelievable about dreams or what you can do there, but are true from your experiences?
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iv always been fascinated with dreaming, but sadly i feel like i lost the ability to dream. probably from all the weed.. lol, anyway i think this is a great topic and should be discussed more here.

i feel there is alot i dont know about dreaming and all that astral stuff you guys talk about, but i would love to know more.

can you tell me what things could sound unbelievable about dreams or what you can do there, but are true from your experiences?
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Ever have deja vu linked to a past dream that later came true as a future event? Try having a lucid dream that is in that future reality "run-time" focus state then changing the dream. See what happens when that modified dream comes true. Just a passing tip ;)
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Total Recall, the first one. Arnold was in dream or reality???
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Are you promoting your site or something?
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Not really, I've been a long GLP dreamtard and some here know me for it, but this gem of a site is promoting itself right now, I just have friends here over the years is all.

Thought they might like to know what's up because I've been a bit quite on the forum working on this since the 2020 doom made me sad.
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I don't like other people's interpretations of MY dreams.
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Why dream? Live it, instead.
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I would be interested, but I don't dream OP..

Is there anything I can take, supplements, drugs?
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I would be interested, but I don't dream OP..

Is there anything I can take, supplements, drugs?
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No... it doesn't work that way. Dreaming is a cognitive skill that develops like any skill we learn. If you do not develop the skill, the regions of your brain that facilitate dreaming go into an atrophic state meaning all the neural pathways and neurons that process dream information have become stunted and underdeveloped, like not going to the gym and expecting to just go in an bench 300lbs.

You need to bring your dream recall out of cognitive atrophy by stimulating the atrophic neural pathways and neurons you developed when up to when you stopped dreaming as they are still there but now atrophic. Like muscle memory... it's all still there waiting for stimulation to activate and develop again.

This is done by learning to force the brain to stimulate those memory regions over and over again over time so they start to rehabilitate and develop properly.

Neuroscience is just starting to show how bad cognitive atrophy is between those who participate in their dreams and those who neglected this gift letting it slide into atrophy.

This 2018 fMRI study on Dream Recall using participants who had high-frequency dream recall vs low-frequency recall proves that the mind develops neural pathways and neuron density in those who recall more dreams, they just developed the brain matter to do so like with what happens for any learned skill.

Here's the 2018 article:
Dream Recall Frequency Is Associated With Medial Prefrontal Cortex White-Matter Density
Lyon Neuroscience Research Center, Brain Dynamics and Cognition Team (DYCOG), INSERM UMRS 1028, CNRS UMR 5292, Université Claude Bernard Lyon 1, Université de Lyon, Lyon, France
[link to www.frontiersin.org (secure)]

So this rehabilitation process requires repeat stimulation of memory regions as all dreaming regions of the brain that have gone into atrophy, and the worse of it... if you let it get that bad bro... you may never get it back. No magic pill makes specific regions of your brain suddenly develop learned skills and neurons to support that skill.

But training, excersising and developing that skill will bring it out of atrophy, you will have to work for it like everyone else.

Here is free 7 day course on dream recall and it will walk you through all the nessicary steps to rehabilitate memory with dreams.
[link to dreamingforgamers.com (secure)]
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Could the audio be unbelievably crappy than this?
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Total Recall, the first one. Arnold was in dream or reality???
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It's a Dream. There's one line in the movie that proves it.
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Super cool. Congratulations! Its nice to hear someone used this difficult time to dream up something awesome.
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I find dreams very fascinating. Have all my life from a young age to being 32 now. While I always thought about my dreams, say, the next morning, it wasn’t until I was about 22 when I had some episodes of sleep paralysis for about a year and half. That really motivated me to look more into the dreaming state. I eventually learned how to break sleep paralysis during the dream and overcome any sense of fear during it. Like when they occurred, I was lucid enough to understand what was happening.

When I had that first one back when I was 22, it actually me think back on a particular time and dream I had when I was probably 4. Believe it or not, even at 4 and after all these years, I’m certain my memory serves me correct and I was fully aware even at that age. Knowing what I knew at 22 with the sleep paralysis, I’m sure I had one at 4 years old. It was truly the wildest one out of all them.

Interesting this thread pops up, because last night, while dreaming and events occurring within the dream. I told somebody within the the dream that I had previously dreamed of the events that were playing out within the dream. Like I was dreaming, then had a dream within the dream, and then within the dream the events played out from the dream in my original dream. If that makes sense. I don’t know how to explain it....it was some next level inception stuff.
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Total Recall, the first one. Arnold was in dream or reality???
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It's a Dream. There's one line in the movie that proves it.
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I loved that movie... such a great concept. Mind you the practical effects when Arnold was on Martian soil with no atmosphere was a bit comical, I mean it was really funny.
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"Before it's too late and you can never remember a dream again!"

OP is a single page dream pimp hustler.

I like it.
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I remember my dreams. They are vivid, full color lifetimes lived in my sleep.
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Super cool. Congratulations! Its nice to hear someone used this difficult time to dream up something awesome.
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I live second life experiences in my dreams, as do many other very proficient practiced dreamers which came in very useful during my lockdown... anything to help people dream.
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I find dreams very fascinating. Have all my life from a young age to being 32 now. While I always thought about my dreams, say, the next morning, it wasn’t until I was about 22 when I had some episodes of sleep paralysis for about a year and half. That really motivated me to look more into the dreaming state. I eventually learned how to break sleep paralysis during the dream and overcome any sense of fear during it. Like when they occurred, I was lucid enough to understand what was happening.

When I had that first one back when I was 22, it actually me think back on a particular time and dream I had when I was probably 4. Believe it or not, even at 4 and after all these years, I’m certain my memory serves me correct and I was fully aware even at that age. Knowing what I knew at 22 with the sleep paralysis, I’m sure I had one at 4 years old. It was truly the wildest one out of all them.

Interesting this thread pops up, because last night, while dreaming and events occurring within the dream. I told somebody within the the dream that I had previously dreamed of the events that were playing out within the dream. Like I was dreaming, then had a dream within the dream, and then within the dream the events played out from the dream in my original dream. If that makes sense. I don’t know how to explain it....it was some next level inception stuff.
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I love recursion in dreams, it's like our subconscious is this massive database of non-linear data we just swim around it. Time in dreams can appear to stretch, past/present/future seem to merge and probability branches seem to offer different what if scenerios... it's one of the most interesting thing we do when we sleep yet for some reason neglected as a valid skill to master and learn from the ground up ie... learn to dream as a skill from childhood onward in school etc.

Very neglected en mass, to many fringe dreamers but we are starting to grow in number this site might help a mass return to the endless potential each of us have when we sleep at night.

Dreaming is after all, universal between humans and mammals with no divisiveness, it's what we all do when we sleep.





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