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Is Linux OS dying? Has Open Source lost the battle against proprietary OS PCs like Microsoft and Apple?

 
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Is Linux OS dying? Has Open Source lost the battle against proprietary OS PCs like Microsoft and Apple?
I don't think so! At least I hope not.

Yes, Linux owns 95% of the server market, but how about the future of Linux on the home desktop?
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There will always be a few of us rebels fighting the System, but I don't know if most people have enough intelligence left today to be different or creative.

Sad.
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07/15/2020 02:52 PM
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Re: Is Linux OS dying? Has Open Source lost the battle against proprietary OS PCs like Microsoft and Apple?
WTF are you smoking? Proton makes games go BRRRRRRRRRR!
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07/15/2020 02:54 PM
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Re: Is Linux OS dying? Has Open Source lost the battle against proprietary OS PCs like Microsoft and Apple?
WTF are you smoking? Proton makes games go BRRRRRRRRRR!
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I'm not a gamer.
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07/15/2020 02:58 PM
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Re: Is Linux OS dying? Has Open Source lost the battle against proprietary OS PCs like Microsoft and Apple?
I have no idea.

I've been a Debian desktop user since 2006 and that's fine.

One day after my graduate term paper was eaten by a virus on a Windows server, I decided I had had enough of Microsoft forever. I had to spend 30 hours straight retyping it. Never again.
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07/15/2020 03:00 PM
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Re: Is Linux OS dying? Has Open Source lost the battle against proprietary OS PCs like Microsoft and Apple?
I'm building a Linux OS that's forked from Xubuntu and uses Chromium as the internet browser.
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Re: Is Linux OS dying? Has Open Source lost the battle against proprietary OS PCs like Microsoft and Apple?
And all the "sign in" options of the customized chromium browser have been nulled out.
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07/15/2020 03:01 PM
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Re: Is Linux OS dying? Has Open Source lost the battle against proprietary OS PCs like Microsoft and Apple?
No.
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07/15/2020 03:05 PM
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Every god damn server worth anything is written in Linux... haha
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Every god damn server worth anything is written in Linux... haha
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73786357


Um, I said that in the very first post.
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The Linux community / programmers must not be trying hard enough to make a version that a Windows user can take and easily use. Or not enough marketing being done for it, even though it is open source free software. It's clearly superior to Windows.
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The Linux community / programmers must not be trying hard enough to make a version that a Windows user can take and easily use. Or not enough marketing being done for it, even though it is open source free software. It's clearly superior to Windows.
 Quoting: Butch DeFeo


Honestly, I just don't see how linux could be any simpler or more stable than Linux Mint!

Yes, it requires a little bit of relearning, but compared to the madness of MS, I can't see why everyone is not willing to at least consider it.

But, I have lost hope that people can handle even small changes in their lives today.

They have honestly become close to walking zombies.
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07/15/2020 03:24 PM
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If you are still on a big proprietary, privacy-stealing OS like Micro$haft or Mac, you are a small cog in the Borg Collective.

You have been assimilated.
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If you are still on a big proprietary, privacy-stealing OS like Micro$haft or Mac, you are a small cog in the Borg Collective.

You have been assimilated.
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The problem is that it makes those people feel safe!

And the will even defend their assimilation.

People today really mentally damaged. No joke.
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07/15/2020 03:29 PM
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Re: Is Linux OS dying? Has Open Source lost the battle against proprietary OS PCs like Microsoft and Apple?
I don't think so! At least I hope not.

Yes, Linux owns 95% of the server market, but how about the future of Linux on the home desktop?
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Have to keep using Windows because not all my games on Steam will work under Linux. Games have been the clincher for a long time and no efforts are really made on Linux.
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Re: Is Linux OS dying? Has Open Source lost the battle against proprietary OS PCs like Microsoft and Apple?
I don't think so! At least I hope not.

Yes, Linux owns 95% of the server market, but how about the future of Linux on the home desktop?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78261487


Have to keep using Windows because not all my games on Steam will work under Linux. Games have been the clincher for a long time and no efforts are really made on Linux.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71407662


Don't you have any other interests than playing computer games?
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Re: Is Linux OS dying? Has Open Source lost the battle against proprietary OS PCs like Microsoft and Apple?
I don't think so! At least I hope not.

Yes, Linux owns 95% of the server market, but how about the future of Linux on the home desktop?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78261487


Have to keep using Windows because not all my games on Steam will work under Linux. Games have been the clincher for a long time and no efforts are really made on Linux.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71407662


Use the free SteamOS as your OS to play your Steam games.

[link to store.steampowered.com (secure)]

SteamOS is a form of Linux.

Problem solved.
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07/15/2020 03:48 PM
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Linux desktop user since 1995. x Windows has changed a little since then.
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07/15/2020 04:46 PM
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Re: Is Linux OS dying? Has Open Source lost the battle against proprietary OS PCs like Microsoft and Apple?
I don't think so! At least I hope not.

Yes, Linux owns 95% of the server market, but how about the future of Linux on the home desktop?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78261487


Have to keep using Windows because not all my games on Steam will work under Linux. Games have been the clincher for a long time and no efforts are really made on Linux.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71407662


Use the free SteamOS as your OS to play your Steam games.

[link to store.steampowered.com (secure)]

SteamOS is a form of Linux.

Problem solved.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78584220



Except that most new games by developers that only use Steam for distribution won't play on SteamOS. Any game that was only developed in directX won't play either.
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07/15/2020 04:50 PM
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Re: Is Linux OS dying? Has Open Source lost the battle against proprietary OS PCs like Microsoft and Apple?
Linux desktop user since 1995. x Windows has changed a little since then.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73849743

Other than functionality, it has changed mainly in that it has become the largest spyware program on the desktop.

One that is impossible to block as long as you are doing updates.
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07/15/2020 04:51 PM
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Re: Is Linux OS dying? Has Open Source lost the battle against proprietary OS PCs like Microsoft and Apple?
If more people figure outyoucan pretty easily install linux on an obsolete chromebook to turn it into a fully updated laptop, maybe it will get more popular. Those old Chromebooks are dirt cheap
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07/15/2020 05:06 PM
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Re: Is Linux OS dying? Has Open Source lost the battle against proprietary OS PCs like Microsoft and Apple?
The biggest problem with Linux, is that a Linux installation is a random collection of parts pulled from all over the place. You never know which parts a user has installed, or which version. And this makes software development and distribution a NIGHTMARE.

Want to support Windows? Test one build. Congrats, now you reach the vast majority of the desktop market!

Want to support Mac OS too, for some extra easy profit? Test one build. Congrats, now you reach almost the entire desktop market!

Want to support Linux? Test 100 builds on 100 different Linux versions. And you still didn't get them all. What do you get for all the trouble? Congrats, now you reach the last tiny percentage of the desktop market, that also happens to be people who are religiously opposed to paying for software. You won't make much money from this crowd, that's for sure.

There is very little commercial third-party software for Linux, and this is the reason: It's just not worth the effort supporting Linux for a software business!

And that's the primary reason Linux still isn't making any serious inroads as a desktop OS.
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i think it has steam left and it’s one thing i’ve learned in IT is to never count anything out. these things have a way of coming back. just packaged with a different name. it just needs to hang around.

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I love Linux, if I had to surf the net on Windows I would quit, Windows is a pain in the but.

My only bugbear is, I am a techy musician/photographer/video editor, so I cannot do any of my work on Linux. I sure wish I could then I would not have to dual boot my computer.
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I'm building a Linux OS that's forked from Xubuntu and uses Chromium as the internet browser.
 Quoting: blu 73851818


Why bother?

The only thing that will make a linux distro popular is massive triple A game support. That is why its not replacing windows any time soon and people need a easy way to install software on it.

Companies can port to open GL without issue. I heard a game dev mention in an interview that the sound drivers for linux are a mess. Or they were some years back around 2009 ish.. Maybe that has been fixed..

People would flock to a free os like the linux distros. I think the main problem is there is too many of them and the game devs need to pick one and use it. Steam os was a step in the right direction but they should have made it so only people using the steam os can link up on multiplayer. Then create white and black lists for what can be installed so no aimbots could be abused or other hack programs. I don't even play shooters online anymore because they are ripe with hacks.
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Re: Is Linux OS dying? Has Open Source lost the battle against proprietary OS PCs like Microsoft and Apple?
I dabble with Linux every couple of years to see how it's going.

Each time, things get incrementally better. But each time, things get incrementally worse too.

My main driver is the desktop environment. Yes, yes, I know you can customize your desktop environment til the cows come home. But I don't want to.

I want a well-designed, functional, and easy to use and navigate desktop environment right out of the box.

So far, there is no such distro that has that. Deepin does, but that distro is made by the Chinese. FerenOS was already there with a peppermint based desktop theme, but changed it and now it sucks.

I almost started building my own distro because of this reason alone.
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Re: Is Linux OS dying? Has Open Source lost the battle against proprietary OS PCs like Microsoft and Apple?
I heard a game dev mention in an interview that the sound drivers for linux are a mess. Or they were some years back around 2009 ish.. Maybe that has been fixed..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76195662


Nope. As with all other longstanding issues with Linux, audio hasn't been fixed, and probably never will be.

This is especially bad for developers of audio workstations and audio plugins of course. In reality, people make music on Mac or Windows, because very little audio software exists for Linux and what little exists is poor quality, and because support for pro audio interfaces on Linux is piss poor to non-existent.
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07/15/2020 05:34 PM
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Re: Is Linux OS dying? Has Open Source lost the battle against proprietary OS PCs like Microsoft and Apple?
No it is not.

The Tards that are a decade late are catching on and MS is losing ground to Linux EVERYDAY.

Faster
FAR MORE Secure
...and FREE- in EVERY sense of the word.

Free Yourself. linux.org
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07/15/2020 05:36 PM
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Re: Is Linux OS dying? Has Open Source lost the battle against proprietary OS PCs like Microsoft and Apple?
No it is not.

The Tards that are a decade late are catching on and MS is losing ground (and MARKETSHARE) to Linux EVERYDAY.

Faster
FAR MORE Secure
...and FREE- in EVERY sense of the word.

Free Yourself. linux.org
 Quoting: LongLiveThePenguin 79149191


edit bolded
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Re: Is Linux OS dying? Has Open Source lost the battle against proprietary OS PCs like Microsoft and Apple?
WTF are you smoking? Proton makes games go BRRRRRRRRRR!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53586445


Yes, it do!

I'm playing No Man's Sky on Linux Mint 19.3, and it's every bit as fast as playing on Windows 10.





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