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They measure their shiny new non-belief not against belief in general, but against Christianity in particular. It is thus ex-Christians who write the literature that, to the world at large, represents the views of non-believers. Literature that is specifically intended to present the arguments against religious belief tends in fact to present the arguments against Christian belief."

Dvorkin's claim has a very solid foundation in fact: most of the modern anti-religion and atheist doctrines and theories stem from a disillusionment and deconstruction of the Christian faith. From Voltaire to Bertrand Russell ("Why I Am Not A Christian", 1927), the main object of scrutiny and scorn has been the Gospel of Christ, a set of tenets and moral teachings Voltaire famously referred to as the "most ridiculous, the most absurd, and bloody religion that has ever infected the world." Fortunately, for Voltaire, there has been a vast body of research and testimony to substantiate his sacrilegious claims. Unfortunately for Voltaire, not all of them are directed at the Christian faith.

by David Dvorkin. "Why I Am Not A Jew"

[link to www.dvorkin.com]

The Eastern faiths (Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, Shintoism) make no claims of exclusivity, i.e. that salvation can only be found in their dogmas. The Western faiths (Judaism, Christianity, Islam), however, do. Each proclaims itself the utter and infallible word of God and seeks to subjugate the world to its will. That's where Ibn Warraq comes in. Like Dvorkin's essay and Russell's famous speech, Warraq takes the standard of Reason, Historical Scrutiny, and Speculation and applies it to Islam, the religion he inherited from his ancestors. What emerges is what can only be termed as a pioneering work, a revolutionary and giant body of research and analysis which stands as the most comprehensive, critical, and detailed look at the revelation, the history, the tradition, and the culture that is Islam.
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They measure their shiny new non-belief not against belief in general, but against Christianity in particular. It is thus ex-Christians who write the literature that, to the world at large, represents the views of non-believers. Literature that is specifically intended to present the arguments against religious belief tends in fact to present the arguments against Christian belief."

Dvorkin's claim has a very solid foundation in fact: most of the modern anti-religion and atheist doctrines and theories stem from a disillusionment and deconstruction of the Christian faith. From Voltaire to Bertrand Russell ("Why I Am Not A Christian", 1927), the main object of scrutiny and scorn has been the Gospel of Christ, a set of tenets and moral teachings Voltaire famously referred to as the "most ridiculous, the most absurd, and bloody religion that has ever infected the world." Fortunately, for Voltaire, there has been a vast body of research and testimony to substantiate his sacrilegious claims. Unfortunately for Voltaire, not all of them are directed at the Christian faith.

by David Dvorkin. "Why I Am Not A Jew"

[link to www.dvorkin.com]

The Eastern faiths (Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, Shintoism) make no claims of exclusivity, i.e. that salvation can only be found in their dogmas. The Western faiths (Judaism, Christianity, Islam), however, do. Each proclaims itself the utter and infallible word of God and seeks to subjugate the world to its will. That's where Ibn Warraq comes in. Like Dvorkin's essay and Russell's famous speech, Warraq takes the standard of Reason, Historical Scrutiny, and Speculation and applies it to Islam, the religion he inherited from his ancestors. What emerges is what can only be termed as a pioneering work, a revolutionary and giant body of research and analysis which stands as the most comprehensive, critical, and detailed look at the revelation, the history, the tradition, and the culture that is Islam.
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Judaism is an Eastern faith
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:Bushnos2:

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well I'll be....

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Re: "Atheists, agnostics, humanists, freethinkers" - call them whatever they prefer, they all share one very large blind spot: they are almost a
And you're the guy that just posted the thread about

The Qur'an, nothing more than reworked Bible stories, which are themselves rehashes of pagan myths....

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First, you tell us that the Jewish religion is just a collection of fairy tales they swiped from sombody else,and then the Arabs swiped those same silly fairy tales from the Jews.

So what's your point?

That the Jewish religion is bullshit, and that all the other religions that borrow the Jewish bullshit and build on it are bullshit as well?
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well personally i think that there is not alot for one to believe in,in this world, many ideas have come forth in the thousands of years, religions or what not. (Me)trusts the SUN, it rises in the east and settles in the west and add in the big ole moon for a bit of measure also,Rest of it is about just some plain old learning and discarding (keeping what is useful to ones self) )
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And you're the guy that just posted the thread about

The Qur'an, nothing more than reworked Bible stories, which are themselves rehashes of pagan myths....

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First, you tell us that the Jewish religion is just a collection of fairy tales they swiped from sombody else,and then the Arabs swiped those same silly fairy tales from the Jews.

So what's your point?

That the Jewish religion is bullshit, and that all the other religions that borrow the Jewish bullshit and build on it are bullshit as well?
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I think God is pissed that so many religions exist and are used to pit one against the other....

Belief in God exist at home and in ones' heart...not a building...
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well personally i think that there is not alot for one to believe in,in this world, many ideas have come forth in the thousands of years, religions or what not. (Me)trusts the SUN, it rises in the east and settles in the west and add in the big ole moon for a bit of measure also,Rest of it is about just some plain old learning and discarding (keeping what is useful to ones self) )
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Re: "Atheists, agnostics, humanists, freethinkers" - call them whatever they prefer, they all share one very large blind spot: they are almost a
God who made Galaxies
and made people, almost none of whom quite
realize the immense nature of Galaxies
is on the line.
What's your question?
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God who made Galaxies
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What's your question?
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Re: "Atheists, agnostics, humanists, freethinkers" - call them whatever they prefer, they all share one very large blind spot: they are almost a
They measure their shiny new non-belief not against belief in general, but against Christianity in particular. It is thus ex-Christians who write the literature that, to the world at large, represents the views of non-believers. Literature that is specifically intended to present the arguments against religious belief tends in fact to present the arguments against Christian belief."

Dvorkin's claim has a very solid foundation in fact: most of the modern anti-religion and atheist doctrines and theories stem from a disillusionment and deconstruction of the Christian faith. From Voltaire to Bertrand Russell ("Why I Am Not A Christian", 1927), the main object of scrutiny and scorn has been the Gospel of Christ, a set of tenets and moral teachings Voltaire famously referred to as the "most ridiculous, the most absurd, and bloody religion that has ever infected the world." Fortunately, for Voltaire, there has been a vast body of research and testimony to substantiate his sacrilegious claims. Unfortunately for Voltaire, not all of them are directed at the Christian faith.

by David Dvorkin. "Why I Am Not A Jew"

[link to www.dvorkin.com]

The Eastern faiths (Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, Shintoism) make no claims of exclusivity, i.e. that salvation can only be found in their dogmas. The Western faiths (Judaism, Christianity, Islam), however, do. Each proclaims itself the utter and infallible word of God and seeks to subjugate the world to its will. That's where Ibn Warraq comes in. Like Dvorkin's essay and Russell's famous speech, Warraq takes the standard of Reason, Historical Scrutiny, and Speculation and applies it to Islam, the religion he inherited from his ancestors. What emerges is what can only be termed as a pioneering work, a revolutionary and giant body of research and analysis which stands as the most comprehensive, critical, and detailed look at the revelation, the history, the tradition, and the culture that is Islam.
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YOU ALL HAVE JEWS IN YOU!!! THE WHOLE EARTH FILLED WITH ITS INHABITANTS ALL IS JEWS!!! BROTHERS & SISTERS!!!
ATHEISTS ARE ANTI-CHRISTS AMONG THE TITLE LISTED IN THIS THREADS ARE INFIDELS!!! DENY- DENY- DENY THE TRUTH, INFIDELS WILL, BROTHER SATAN JOBBY NEVER DONE!!! HE'S REAL GOOD IS HE NOT?
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the term in vogue now is "brights"

it's just another religion=what you believe in

what yeshua said is that only a few believe, why some argue and are bible-thumpers is beyond me...he didn't say to do this. say your piece and let it go-his sheep hear his voice...

the other religions (have been/studied them), all have detractors. some of their schools do teach exclusivity.
especially the westernized versions ;)


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They measure their shiny new non-belief not against belief in general, but against Christianity in particular. It is thus ex-Christians who write the literature that, to the world at large, represents the views of non-believers. Literature that is specifically intended to present the arguments against religious belief tends in fact to present the arguments against Christian belief."

Dvorkin's claim has a very solid foundation in fact: most of the modern anti-religion and atheist doctrines and theories stem from a disillusionment and deconstruction of the Christian faith. From Voltaire to Bertrand Russell ("Why I Am Not A Christian", 1927), the main object of scrutiny and scorn has been the Gospel of Christ, a set of tenets and moral teachings Voltaire famously referred to as the "most ridiculous, the most absurd, and bloody religion that has ever infected the world." Fortunately, for Voltaire, there has been a vast body of research and testimony to substantiate his sacrilegious claims. Unfortunately for Voltaire, not all of them are directed at the Christian faith.

by David Dvorkin. "Why I Am Not A Jew"

[link to www.dvorkin.com]

The Eastern faiths (Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, Shintoism) make no claims of exclusivity, i.e. that salvation can only be found in their dogmas. The Western faiths (Judaism, Christianity, Islam), however, do. Each proclaims itself the utter and infallible word of God and seeks to subjugate the world to its will. That's where Ibn Warraq comes in. Like Dvorkin's essay and Russell's famous speech, Warraq takes the standard of Reason, Historical Scrutiny, and Speculation and applies it to Islam, the religion he inherited from his ancestors. What emerges is what can only be termed as a pioneering work, a revolutionary and giant body of research and analysis which stands as the most comprehensive, critical, and detailed look at the revelation, the history, the tradition, and the culture that is Islam.



Judaism is an Eastern faith
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Well...yes, originally, but now found predominately in the west.
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They measure their shiny new non-belief not against belief in general, but against Christianity in particular. It is thus ex-Christians who write the literature that, to the world at large, represents the views of non-believers. Literature that is specifically intended to present the arguments against religious belief tends in fact to present the arguments against Christian belief."

Dvorkin's claim has a very solid foundation in fact: most of the modern anti-religion and atheist doctrines and theories stem from a disillusionment and deconstruction of the Christian faith. From Voltaire to Bertrand Russell ("Why I Am Not A Christian", 1927), the main object of scrutiny and scorn has been the Gospel of Christ, a set of tenets and moral teachings Voltaire famously referred to as the "most ridiculous, the most absurd, and bloody religion that has ever infected the world." Fortunately, for Voltaire, there has been a vast body of research and testimony to substantiate his sacrilegious claims. Unfortunately for Voltaire, not all of them are directed at the Christian faith.

by David Dvorkin. "Why I Am Not A Jew"

[link to www.dvorkin.com]

The Eastern faiths (Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, Shintoism) make no claims of exclusivity, i.e. that salvation can only be found in their dogmas. The Western faiths (Judaism, Christianity, Islam), however, do. Each proclaims itself the utter and infallible word of God and seeks to subjugate the world to its will. That's where Ibn Warraq comes in. Like Dvorkin's essay and Russell's famous speech, Warraq takes the standard of Reason, Historical Scrutiny, and Speculation and applies it to Islam, the religion he inherited from his ancestors. What emerges is what can only be termed as a pioneering work, a revolutionary and giant body of research and analysis which stands as the most comprehensive, critical, and detailed look at the revelation, the history, the tradition, and the culture that is Islam.
YOU ALL HAVE JEWS IN YOU!!! THE WHOLE EARTH FILLED WITH ITS INHABITANTS ALL IS JEWS!!! BROTHERS & SISTERS!!!
ATHEISTS ARE ANTI-CHRISTS AMONG THE TITLE LISTED IN THIS THREADS ARE INFIDELS!!! DENY- DENY- DENY THE TRUTH, INFIDELS WILL, BROTHER SATAN JOBBY NEVER DONE!!! HE'S REAL GOOD IS HE NOT?
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HUH?
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i lean more towards buddhism and taoism for they are the religions which teach meditation and it is through meditation that I have experienced some wonderful things. Meditation has made me mentally and physically healthier so I thank the creators of these eastern religions for teaching me about meditation. Meditation is something that the western religions will not teach you anything about yet they point to it quite often "be still and know that i am god".
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"the kingdom is within you"
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Beg the question, is god real or not?

Was/is Jesus what the dogma says he is? Look at the empirical evidence: what has happened in the world since his death?

The truth is that we are more "god" than we will ever (EVER) know. That is because we need the free will in order to be so. The veil of ignorance gives us this free will. The catch 22 is that we do not know what we are doing.

What are we doing? We are living out the heart of god.

Earth is the heart.
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earth is just another conscious being just like any other planet or sun.
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earth is just another conscious being just like any other planet or sun.
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I dare you to find two snowflakes that are the same.





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