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What does 50% defunding of police look like?

 
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Re: What does 50% defunding of police look like?
Here is a novel concept, how about people stop breaking the law. If that happened we wouldn’t net the police at all.
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Re: What does 50% defunding of police look like?
Let defunding happen......its an experiment.....the problems will be self evident soon enough.....in the mean time you are responsible for your own safety....
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The last experiment (CHOP) caused the death of a couple of black teenagers. And you notice that has been basically ignored.
 Quoting: Mr. Predictor


CHOP was an encampment of marxist revolutionaries in a "lord of the flies" tradition.....

Defunding the police will be city sanctioned and endorsed by the citizens that live there.....all legit regardless of its foolishness....

NYC's black leaders are already calling for a "refunding" of its police.....apparently the anticrime unit that was disbanded in a kneejerk reaction served a purpose.....shootings and crimes have skyrocket in the city....black leaders are saying defunding the police adversely affects the black and brown neighborhoods....imagine that.....lol....

I expect the same to happen in Seattle....its all fun and social justice till the liberal citizens are too busy dodging criminals to go protesting.....
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People taking the responsibilities of the law into their own hands will be interesting~
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Yeah, it's called a civil war.
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Re: What does 50% defunding of police look like?
If you all cannot see by now this is the way they remove white people you'll never get it.

Mobs of blacks will soon be killing 24/7 365.
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If you all cannot see by now this is the way they remove white people you'll never get it.

Mobs of blacks will soon be killing 24/7 365.
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I'm not getting this blacks killing all the white people when there are no police. It's actually the other way around when the SHTF for reelz. Blacks have been protected for over a half century by white police enforcing their special status. For those common core idiots out there, the civil war was fought and won by whites against whites to free blacks from slavery. I guess it's going go full circle and history will repeat itself all over again and again...... ENJOY!
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Re: What does 50% defunding of police look like?
If you'll defund the police, it will create a vacuum that will be filled by mafia and gangs. Russia went through this in the 90s. The country was broke. No resources for policing. Crime rate sky-high. People needed protection. Mafia stepped-in to provide protection from itself.


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Yes, and before this, when the bolsheviks took over, and the Checka (sp?) aka thugs took over.
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Re: What does 50% defunding of police look like?
cops hiding in the shadows with a radar gun?? defund.

cops over-watching construction workers? defund.

cops patrolling hiking trails or rec areas? defund.

cops setting up barricades in the hope some criminal might come though? defund.


the list goes on and on and on...but..

Cops patrolling high crime areas? FUND

Cops responding to violence? FUND

Cops maintaining the peace in a large crowd? FUND

So then we certainly need the police, but like half of what they are currently doing are things they shouldn't be doing. Alot of the things people dislike or hate about police happens because the cops are put in places and situations they shouldn't be in, as they are unqualified for anything except maintaining the peace through intimidation and threats of violence.

Change my mind its open to new information.
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So you're a criminal, who slings herion at your construction job, and regularly speeds through school zones, and you like to take your kidnapping victims bodies and hide them on infrequently used hiking trails....

Gotcha...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78551315


No, I think he's saying there are sometimes too many cops with too little crime. When that's the case, cops become a nuisance.

But there are time and places where cops are needed. I agree with his post entirely.
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Re: What does 50% defunding of police look like?
Soros, The Roman Catholic Church and the Bilderberg Group's goal, is to collapse the urban areas, and chase non Whites out of the urban areas into White communities to advance the Kalgeri agenda to breed America to be like Latin America.
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Re: What does 50% defunding of police look like?
Like a vigilante mob, when the law-abiding citizens have had enough of their city leaders. Even liberals have limits.
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Re: What does 50% defunding of police look like?
Let Seattle rot. Who cares? I hope every liberal there gets everything coming to them. Lol
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clappa

Washington = South Africa.

You've been warned.
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Re: What does 50% defunding of police look like?
Things like, not having police, is what makes a country a 3rd world country. While they pat themselves on their backs like they discovered some secret evil and cure, this has all been tried before. this will be an epic failure the architects will blame on 'racism'.
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Let Seattle rot. Who cares? I hope every liberal there gets everything coming to them. Lol
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Bet these liberals are the ones buying up all the guns too. They talk out of both sides of their mouths.
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Re: What does 50% defunding of police look like?
Like a massive lickah stoe robin, bank robin, witewimenz rapin, crimspree havin, car jackin, muh dik havin, banana stealin, poo-flingin CHIMP OUT!
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Here is a novel concept, how about people stop breaking the law. If that happened we wouldn’t net the police at all.
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Re: What does 50% defunding of police look like?
Like a massive lickah stoe robin, bank robin, witewimenz rapin, crimspree havin, car jackin, muh dik havin, banana stealin, poo-flingin CHIMP OUT!
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Like a massive lickah stoe robin, bank robin, witewimenz rapin, crimspree havin, car jackin, muh dik havin, banana stealin, poo-flingin CHIMP OUT!
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Absolooofly troo dat muh jogguhz
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Re: What does 50% defunding of police look like?
Here is a novel concept, how about people stop breaking the law. If that happened we wouldn’t net the police at all.
 Quoting: stuckpipe


clappa
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Nah hey beez a moe novel concepp, how bout Segregate or depote da nig nogs ..... wont need police either!
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Re: What does 50% defunding of police look like?
If I can’t tell the difference between a cop and a soldier, defund.

If the cops are driving nicer SUV’s than I can afford, defund.

Seattle is a hellhole. 2 years ago we were attacked on the street by a nagger spewing racist hate and they refused to arrest the POS.

Let it burn.
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Re: What does 50% defunding of police look like?
Seattle's Marxist city council fool released some details about the plan to reduce the police budget by 50%. It cuts 681 of the 755 officers. Seven of nine council members have voiced support for cutting SPD’s budget in half, a veto-proof majority.

This is what happens when people vote in radicals

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 Quoting: Mr. Predictor


Sawant pointed out that 19 of the top 200 highest paid Seattle City employees work within the police department, and that the average salary among officers, sergeants, and lieutenants is roughly $268,000. Chief Best estimates that a 50% reduction to SPD’s budget would force it to cut 681 of its 755 patrol officers. (<50%)

Well paid cops! That pay does look absurdly high.
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Seattle is fucked
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They've got a real mess on their hands
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Re: What does 50% defunding of police look like?
Ill tell you what, I live in a moderately small town, but we have 3 police departments.

The state Troopers, County Sheriff and City police.

I haven't seen a cop car on the road in 3 weeks
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Re: What does 50% defunding of police look like?
If the commies want to get the conservatives on board, why just defund the police? Why not defund all of the local government? 50% sit on their asses day in and day out.
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If the commies want to get the conservatives on board, why just defund the police? Why not defund all of the local government? 50% sit on their asses day in and day out.
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I could join with that, get rid of the FBI too.
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Re: What does 50% defunding of police look like?
They are encouraging this police reduction because liberals are the racists who want to see the city's minorities all kill each other, and then they will do a 360 and force AI chips and full surveillance for "safety reasons.
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Re: What does 50% defunding of police look like?
You know, you got to ask yourself, what kind of people

are these that are always encountering them and why can't

they just 'not break the law'?

I have rarely encountered ANY interactions throughout

my life and I'm 58!

I never see them personally but I like seeing them

in the area of where I work and where I live.

This should be a citizen vote before something like this

happens! And more innocent people die, get raped or

killed. All the criminals in the world will descend into

Seattle now! Why not? People have money and gold, cash

and expensive equipment and furniture.

And it will be easy because they're Liberals and most

are unarmed and refuse to shoot someone to protect

themselves.

Man these people are selfish, foolish and insensitive...
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Re: What does 50% defunding of police look like?
I dont dial 911 anyway,

There is another agenda to all of this and they are anticipating Biden getting into office, repeal the 2nd amendment and then we can all be happy happy, joy joy, hugging and shot
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Re: What does 50% defunding of police look like?
instead of spewing no information how about sharing some relevant information.

In Seattle, currently the budget of the police department is 409 millions dollars. This is 27% of the City's entire discretionary budget.

It is nearly double the Fire Department! This clearly is lopsided and how it came to be like this should be addressed at some point but right now it is critical to rebalance the budget.

I am a taxpayer here. No one even calls the Seattle Police for anything anymore anyway because mostly they dont show up. Personally I have always found the firemen to be people who want to help and the police have a real sick contempt for everyone and do not want to help anyone! It is not a bad apple unless you count the whole department as a bad apple. A cop is dangerous and not going to be good to bring into any situation. So we need to create departments that actually serve us. We need a 911 call center that is not operated by the police. Seattle has a new responding unit called HELP which is specifically for 911 calls regarding mental disturbance issues so the person does not end up going to jail and then back on the street without getting proper attention to get them the help they need. This concept will expand in the coming months so police will be needed a smaller and smaller percentage of the time. Yes, there will be less policemen and more people who are trained to help specific issues.

SO with 5 months left of 2020, half of 170 million is 85 million to pull from the remainder of the police budget this year.

This money should be put into affordable housing, services in black and brown working class communities , renter organizing and eviction defense, youth programmings and alternatives to repressive policing. Housing is probably the biggest issue here and I think half the money will go to that problem.

This leaves 85 million for the remainder of the year for the police department. Guess they have to cut overtime which is how a patrol officer makes over 200,000 a year, they may have to live like other city workers. I think maybe they should be more sparing with the use of pepper spray and rubber bullets. Those are expensive. We dont want to pay for them.
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Re: What does 50% defunding of police look like?
When they de-fund the police, people will have to get together for defense, everyone will do guard duty, get use to wearing shoes or boots to bed, learn to load and field strip weapons in the dark and shoot at sounds.
Have fire fighting equipment handy as well as gas masks or some way to breathe in chemicals burning.
I can go on for a long time, do people really want to live like they live in Chicago.
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Re: What does 50% defunding of police look like?
Seattle's Marxist city council fool released some details about the plan to reduce the police budget by 50%. It cuts 681 of the 755 officers. Seven of nine council members have voiced support for cutting SPD’s budget in half, a veto-proof majority.

This is what happens when people vote in radicals

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 Quoting: Mr. Predictor


Sawant pointed out that 19 of the top 200 highest paid Seattle City employees work within the police department, and that the average salary among officers, sergeants, and lieutenants is roughly $268,000. Chief Best estimates that a 50% reduction to SPD’s budget would force it to cut 681 of its 755 patrol officers. (<50%)

Well paid cops! That pay does look absurdly high.
 Quoting: oniongrass


I can't agree with Sawant on much but she is definitely not wrong about this. Look at your city's police payrolls. The chief of police usually makes the city manager's salary look like pennies. Starting cops off of the boat have total compensation of $100K plus starting when you count their cadillac health plans etc. etc. There are lifelong highly educated city employees like engineers who struggle to make what a starting cop makes.

Challenge yourself - go look at your city's payroll. You could trim 50% of the fat off of a police budget with ease.
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Re: What does 50% defunding of police look like?
Seattle's Marxist city council fool released some details about the plan to reduce the police budget by 50%. It cuts 681 of the 755 officers. Seven of nine council members have voiced support for cutting SPD’s budget in half, a veto-proof majority.

This is what happens when people vote in radicals

[link to mynorthwest.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Mr. Predictor


Sawant pointed out that 19 of the top 200 highest paid Seattle City employees work within the police department, and that the average salary among officers, sergeants, and lieutenants is roughly $268,000. Chief Best estimates that a 50% reduction to SPD’s budget would force it to cut 681 of its 755 patrol officers. (<50%)

Well paid cops! That pay does look absurdly high.
 Quoting: oniongrass


I can't agree with Sawant on much but she is definitely not wrong about this. Look at your city's police payrolls. The chief of police usually makes the city manager's salary look like pennies. Starting cops off of the boat have total compensation of $100K plus starting when you count their cadillac health plans etc. etc. There are lifelong highly educated city employees like engineers who struggle to make what a starting cop makes.

Challenge yourself - go look at your city's payroll. You could trim 50% of the fat off of a police budget with ease.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74838896


It depends on where you live.

In liberal shitholes, because of all the crime and other bullshit, cops will have much higher pay.

Where I live, cops start off at $66,000 per year, with Lt. and Captains topping out around $134,000 after 20 years on the job.

I live in a low-diversity, low-crime, 90% conservative city.

Even though the cops in my city are in less danger than the cops working in the liberal shitholes, I still think they're underpaid.





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