Can you imagine if you were told, yeah this is it, this life you suffer and then it’s nothingness .

Reincarnation WAS CHRISTIAN dogma before Emperor Justinian's whore wife Theodora had all references to reincarnation removed from the bible.

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I would be cool with that ....Nothing Beats nothingness

Its not that crazy... what were the billions of years like before you were born? Went by in a flash and didnt even notice them.

actually rather 4 billion years of pain and suffering that you DO remember. it's called your soul.

you are the result, of 4 billion years of evolution. you are the memory of all those struggles endured by all the previous organisms that eventually gave rise to you

let that sink in for a moment

Well, that is the Marxist view...

Sounds lovely
I'm just tired of it all...

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In another words according to your assumption there is no freedom. Then it is not worth living. Also LIFE is not POSSIBLE under such circumstances.

All stupid theories explaining origin of Life failed MISERABLY! It is left for you to guess why.

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That's a false premise. Even nothingness is still something. After something, including us, dies, it becomes something else. We just don't know exactly what it is. The smartest people on earth are making progress every day in areas that help us gain a better understanding of the universe. It's a beautiful thing. At the same time it's sad that so many people disavow science and sink into their own sad and misunderstood worlds.

Not that long ago Galileo was among the very first to figure out that the earth revolved around the sun, and not vice versa. For his troubles he was prosecuted and placed under house arrest. Humanity has come a long way since then, but even today you have people who believe things that are far removed from the logic and reality of the day. SEE: Pandemic hoaxers.

Wasn't that how ancient Greek civilization was? They did pretty well.

"The soul is undergoing a dream from which it must awake. This dream represents our association and identification with the world. The fact that it is described as being a dream means that whatever is in it has to be false. Nothing in a dream can be true. Waking up from that dream is the ultimate goal, Self-realization." -- The main theme of "Yoga Vasistha"

I know I was being lied to again.

Cast not off your Faith nor reject such a great Salvation as this:


But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us

Sorry for you that you don't get it. Most don't so you have company. Sadly it will be too late when they wait and the end happens. Jesus gives you a ticket. The Holy Spirit validates the ticket, walks the pathway with you, and suggests ways to make the walk better. The Prize is at the end of the journey for those on the path, not the beginning, but they are never alone as they were before they found Jesus and the Spirit

I think you're right! I watch and listen to so many self righteous, religious, jesus loving people...who are so great...so awesome, because god loves them and jesus is going to save them, that they couldn't be bothered to help a hungry, broken person...'cause why??...well, because god will help them.
Everyday, I watch, I ask..I listen.

We actually do only have one life as the people we are. Personally
the thought of returning is dreadful and exhausting, though I tend to
believe in the possibility of reincarnation
If there is an afterlife I hope it is better and not worse and if there isn’t, I have loved deeply those around me. That is good enough for me.

Exactly. How can anyone be afraid of nothing?

It is probably not true.

But if there was no after life, why worry? Live and enjoy life to the fullest... for tomorrow, tomorrow we die.

I’m Christian but nonetheless I think the argument for intelligent design is strong anyway. For me it even more conceivable that were in a simulation than life coming out of chemicals and lightening.

I'm not sure whether the powers that shouldn't be believe they will live forever, because of various strange practices, or whether they are convinced that there is no afterlife, otherwise they should be shaking in their boots.

Suicides would be way up

Yes you wouldn't value life. You would think that ripping fetuses that have fully developed nervous systems with forceps that tear them apart.
You would behave as if there are no consequences. "do as thou wilt"
You would undermine people around you if it served you, since there are no consequences.

You would be subservient to governments because you would not believe there is a God to judge. you would destroy and burn flags and burn bibles because you believe nothing is above your beloved Borg of government.

You would want to take others income that took all the risk because mob rule is the law in your mind.

They can say it to until the cows came home, but it wouldn't matter. They would be lying and manipulating any evidence they had or merely not understanding the multiverse and creation/hologram to begin with and what it means, and then giving their opinion on outcomes of tests within a false model of existence. By the way, a hologram by its very nature, is a creation, a science object. And our universe is indeed holographic, seemingly streaming in from the real home, which again, is possibly holographic from the next one and the next one, and when you think you're through one level, you find out that was just a test streaming in from another place.

Those of us with direct memories of past life, having had the veil lift on many things, who were out of body, and who's family members had NDE's and experiences, KNOW 100%.

Even about what universe we're in. For example, when you share a vision, its real, no 2 brains have a drugged induced delusion that is identical.

So when my son, then 18 or 19, was discussing what infinity was, and the infinite multiverses and beyond, this being a hologram, we both at the same time witnessed this enormous Old Man, like a ET robed Heavenly being that was so funny, humorous, kind and helpful to the students here, like a heavenly college professor, clap his hands and laugh with delight. Right in the sky. My son couldn't see the sky he was on the couch, but he saw the same thing. And he jerked back and jumped in shock. So having witnessed his reaction I merely asked a weird question, not to lead him into the entire scenario. I said: He laughed! And my son nodded over and over again. so we sat and had a talk, because we'd just shared a vision.

That son of mine had an NDE, where he collapsed his heart failed, out of body, deathly ill with the flu during the swine flu epidemic. And he knew he had a choice to make. He had made it from the couch downstairs to his upstairs bed at around midnight. He had been napping on the couch all day.

Out of body, instead of being dark it was as light as the noon day sun, and he had super hearing and awareness, he said he could have heard a pin drop from miles away.

But he couldn't move.

There was an angelic light shape on the wall, he assumed it was his higher self or guardian angel.

He chose to stay and help though he knew instinctively he would be immensely happier home, on the other side.

He had come to help. He still couldn't move or look down. So he assumed the angel helped because suddenly he could look down and he was standing on a 5 foot vortex half on the bed and half off.

He woke up in his body, 100% Well. He was completely healed and well.

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What is heaven? It's never been described in a way that's appealing. We have vivid descriptions of hell, but nothing about heaven! I don't relish sitting forever with a bunch of angels, clouds, and harps. Do I get a lover? Is she pretty? What is heaven?

Yep.

That's the way it is. It takes some courage to not JUST MAKE THINGS UP.

Flip it around and imagine you were told there was no death and what comes around goes around. Things just might be a little different. No?

No, it's just the non-fiction view.

Look at how the Godless behave, that's how everyone would act.