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USMC Prepping for China - A farewell to armor: Marine Corps shuts down tank units, hauls away M1A1s

 
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USMC Prepping for China - A farewell to armor: Marine Corps shuts down tank units, hauls away M1A1s
I originally thought this was going to be stretched out a few years, but it is happening right now. The announcement was in March and is almost finished.

The Marine Corps will eventually divest of all three of its active tank battalions as it moves from a “second land army” back to its maritime roots of defending ships at sea, island-hopping and battling for contested coastlines, in preparation for potential conflict with near-peer adversaries such as China.

“We have sufficient evidence to conclude that this capability, despite its long and honorable history in the wars of the past, is operationally unsuitable for our highest-priority challenges in the future,” Commandant Gen. David Berger wrote of the tanks in a March plan for the service’s overhaul. “Heavy ground armor capability will continue to be provided by the U.S. Army.”

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tanks dont do well in mud.rednecks in 4 wheeldrives can make life a living hell for folks though!
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Makes sense.

Tanks are deathtraps, when the Russian "Kornet" is around.

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tanks dont do well in mud.rednecks in 4 wheeldrives can make life a living hell for folks though!
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Tanks do very well in mud.
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Given China is a large ass country with only one side touching the sea is clear to see where they believe the conflicts will take place... And it does not look like mainland China then...
Perhaps a repeat of ww2 thru the islands
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Re: USMC Prepping for China - A farewell to armor: Marine Corps shuts down tank units, hauls away M1A1s
Makes sense.

Tanks are deathtraps, when the Russian "Kornet" is around.

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There are so many highly-effective AT weapons that can be delivered a multitude of ways.
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If you're talking about the video below.

That was the blowout panels activating and preventing the ammo explosion from going inside the tank.

The explosion being directed up and away from the tank is a safety feature when the stored ammo is hit.

The basic idea is the ammo is stored in a strong box with a weak top.

Thus if the ammo is hit and cooks of it blows the top off aka the blowout panel and the explosion is directed up and away from the crew and tank.

Without that panel the whole tank would go kaboom.

If you watch where the missile hit it hit the back of the tank.
The ammo is stored in the back of the turret.

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Makes sense.

Tanks are deathtraps, when the Russian "Kornet" is around.

explosiondead3

There are so many highly-effective AT weapons that can be delivered a multitude of ways.
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If you're talking about the video below.

That was the blowout panels activating and preventing the ammo explosion from going inside the tank.

The explosion being directed up and away from the tank is a safety feature when the stored ammo is hit.

The basic idea is the ammo is stored in a strong box with a weak top.

Thus if the ammo is hit and cooks of it blows the top off aka the blowout panel and the explosion is directed up and away from the crew and tank.

Without that panel the whole tank would go kaboom.

If you watch where the missile hit it hit the back of the tank.
The ammo is stored in the back of the turret.


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No. I wasn't.

Abrams tanks (and Leopards and Challengers) have been through-and-through penetrated by AT weapons.

Let's not even consider top-armour attacks, which invariably destroy the vehicle.
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Makes sense.

Tanks are deathtraps, when the Russian "Kornet" is around.

explosiondead3

There are so many highly-effective AT weapons that can be delivered a multitude of ways.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76724217


If you're talking about the video below.

That was the blowout panels activating and preventing the ammo explosion from going inside the tank.

The explosion being directed up and away from the tank is a safety feature when the stored ammo is hit.

The basic idea is the ammo is stored in a strong box with a weak top.

Thus if the ammo is hit and cooks of it blows the top off aka the blowout panel and the explosion is directed up and away from the crew and tank.

Without that panel the whole tank would go kaboom.

If you watch where the missile hit it hit the back of the tank.
The ammo is stored in the back of the turret.


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No. I wasn't.

Abrams tanks (and Leopards and Challengers) have been through-and-through penetrated by AT weapons.

Let's not even consider top-armour attacks, which invariably destroy the vehicle.
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They're all weaker on the sides rear and top.

But they can also blow you pieces at close range with their numerous 50 cals or HE and canister shot.
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Makes sense.

Tanks are deathtraps, when the Russian "Kornet" is around.

explosiondead3

There are so many highly-effective AT weapons that can be delivered a multitude of ways.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76724217


If you're talking about the video below.

That was the blowout panels activating and preventing the ammo explosion from going inside the tank.

The explosion being directed up and away from the tank is a safety feature when the stored ammo is hit.

The basic idea is the ammo is stored in a strong box with a weak top.

Thus if the ammo is hit and cooks of it blows the top off aka the blowout panel and the explosion is directed up and away from the crew and tank.

Without that panel the whole tank would go kaboom.

If you watch where the missile hit it hit the back of the tank.
The ammo is stored in the back of the turret.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77782608


No. I wasn't.

Abrams tanks (and Leopards and Challengers) have been through-and-through penetrated by AT weapons.

Let's not even consider top-armour attacks, which invariably destroy the vehicle.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76724217


They're all weaker on the sides rear and top.

But they can also blow you pieces at close range with their numerous 50 cals or HE and canister shot.
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Or even long range a mile or more away.
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Re: USMC Prepping for China - A farewell to armor: Marine Corps shuts down tank units, hauls away M1A1s
tanks dont do well in mud.rednecks in 4 wheeldrives can make life a living hell for folks though!
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Tanks do very well in mud.
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im not getting baited in to tech talk.loosh somewhere else.
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tanks dont do well in mud.rednecks in 4 wheeldrives can make life a living hell for folks though!
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Tanks do very well in mud.
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im not getting baited in to tech talk.loosh somewhere else.
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Well you asserted it like you knew something.

Don't make assertions if you don't know what you're talking about.
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Re: USMC Prepping for China - A farewell to armor: Marine Corps shuts down tank units, hauls away M1A1s
I originally thought this was going to be stretched out a few years, but it is happening right now. The announcement was in March and is almost finished.

The Marine Corps will eventually divest of all three of its active tank battalions as it moves from a “second land army” back to its maritime roots of defending ships at sea, island-hopping and battling for contested coastlines, in preparation for potential conflict with near-peer adversaries such as China.

“We have sufficient evidence to conclude that this capability, despite its long and honorable history in the wars of the past, is operationally unsuitable for our highest-priority challenges in the future,” Commandant Gen. David Berger wrote of the tanks in a March plan for the service’s overhaul. “Heavy ground armor capability will continue to be provided by the U.S. Army.”

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You have a EGA but lack opsec. How quaint.
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You have a EGA but lack opsec. How quaint.
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I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure they have the internet in China.
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Robot weapons going online.
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Pretty obvious that the pentagon has shifted its thinking to who America's true enemy is.

And its not the middle east... I like where this is headed.
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You have a EGA but lack opsec. How quaint.
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I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure they have the internet in China.
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What would the Army know about the 4 dimensional battlefield?

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Their anthem does not include "Every clime and place.".

Catch up.


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So will all the Marine Tankers be reclassed?
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I take it, they will probably be integrated into infantry companies
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Re: USMC Prepping for China - A farewell to armor: Marine Corps shuts down tank units, hauls away M1A1s
Bottle of gasoline disables any tank
Don't you watch war movies?
let tank roll over you and safely throw bottle with flaming rag on turret
Tank crew panics and escape
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Re: USMC Prepping for China - A farewell to armor: Marine Corps shuts down tank units, hauls away M1A1s
Makes sense.

Tanks are deathtraps, when the Russian "Kornet" is around.

explosiondead3

There are so many highly-effective AT weapons that can be delivered a multitude of ways.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76724217


If you're talking about the video below.

That was the blowout panels activating and preventing the ammo explosion from going inside the tank.

The explosion being directed up and away from the tank is a safety feature when the stored ammo is hit.

The basic idea is the ammo is stored in a strong box with a weak top.

Thus if the ammo is hit and cooks of it blows the top off aka the blowout panel and the explosion is directed up and away from the crew and tank.

Without that panel the whole tank would go kaboom.

If you watch where the missile hit it hit the back of the tank.
The ammo is stored in the back of the turret.


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idjit.

that tank was 100% totally destroyed
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Makes sense.

Tanks are deathtraps, when the Russian "Kornet" is around.

explosiondead3

There are so many highly-effective AT weapons that can be delivered a multitude of ways.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76724217


If you're talking about the video below.

That was the blowout panels activating and preventing the ammo explosion from going inside the tank.

The explosion being directed up and away from the tank is a safety feature when the stored ammo is hit.

The basic idea is the ammo is stored in a strong box with a weak top.

Thus if the ammo is hit and cooks of it blows the top off aka the blowout panel and the explosion is directed up and away from the crew and tank.

Without that panel the whole tank would go kaboom.

If you watch where the missile hit it hit the back of the tank.
The ammo is stored in the back of the turret.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77782608


No. I wasn't.

Abrams tanks (and Leopards and Challengers) have been through-and-through penetrated by AT weapons.

Let's not even consider top-armour attacks, which invariably destroy the vehicle.
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you are so full of shit.
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nothing escapes hypersonic.
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Makes sense.

Tanks are deathtraps, when the Russian "Kornet" is around.

explosiondead3

There are so many highly-effective AT weapons that can be delivered a multitude of ways.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76724217


If you're talking about the video below.

That was the blowout panels activating and preventing the ammo explosion from going inside the tank.

The explosion being directed up and away from the tank is a safety feature when the stored ammo is hit.

The basic idea is the ammo is stored in a strong box with a weak top.

Thus if the ammo is hit and cooks of it blows the top off aka the blowout panel and the explosion is directed up and away from the crew and tank.

Without that panel the whole tank would go kaboom.

If you watch where the missile hit it hit the back of the tank.
The ammo is stored in the back of the turret.


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idjit.

that tank was 100% totally destroyed
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Very end of video, tank is turning. Fucking blind. You just see what you want to see
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Re: USMC Prepping for China - A farewell to armor: Marine Corps shuts down tank units, hauls away M1A1s
tanks dont do well in mud.rednecks in 4 wheeldrives can make life a living hell for folks though!
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Tanks do very well in mud.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77782608


im not getting baited in to tech talk.loosh somewhere else.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78176720


Well you asserted it like you knew something.

Don't make assertions if you don't know what you're talking about.
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You probably enjoy being asserted. Admit it.

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