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United States hospitals have a “perverse” monetary “incentive” to increase their count of coronavirus fatalities, U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)’s director Robert Redfield indicated under questioning from a Republican lawmaker during a House panel hearing on Friday.

Asked to comment on what Rep. Blaine Luetkemeyer (R-MO) described as the “perverse incentive” during a hearing by the House Oversight and Reform Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis, Dr. Redfield responded:

I think you’re correct in that we’ve seen this in other disease processes too, really in the HIV epidemic, somebody may have a heart attack, but also have HIV — the hospital would prefer the [classification] for HIV because there’s greater reimbursement.

So I do think there’s some reality to that. When it comes to death reporting, though, ultimately, it’s how the physician defines it in the death certificate and … we review all of those death certificates.

So I think, probably it is less operable in the cause of death, although I won’t say there are not some cases. I do think though [that] when it comes to hospital reimbursement issues or individuals that get discharged, there could be some play in that for sure.

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Jeez!

Ya think?

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If you subsidize something, anything, you always get MOAR of it!

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so basically Trump let's the CDC pay hospitals money if they say they died of corona virus

so Trump's in on the whole fucking thing
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bump Who didn't know that? please.. They're all criminals.

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If you subsidize something, anything, you always get MOAR of it!

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If you subsidize something, anything, you always get MOAR of it!

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So, in effect, we are literally financing/subsidizing our own subversion. We’ve been doing this for a very long time anyway, but one might think we’d get a fucking clue at some point and do something about it.

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That's so true.. Up here we aren't driven by a for-profit medical industry, and we're barely affected by the covid, for some reason.
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If you subsidize something, anything, you always get MOAR of it!

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So, in effect, we are literally financing/subsidizing our own subversion. We’ve been doing this for a very long time anyway, but one might think we’d get a fucking clue at some point and do something about it.
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This would be another good project for Veritas, or maybe some other enterprising conservative. Identify some hospital administrators, find out where they hang out, and get them on video admitting to it. Shouldn’t be too hard to do.
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Alot of these hospitals need investigations and murder charges filed.
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If you subsidize something, anything, you always get MOAR of it!

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So, in effect, we are literally financing/subsidizing our own subversion. We’ve been doing this for a very long time anyway, but one might think we’d get a fucking clue at some point and do something about it.
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Yup

Lump “ man made “ climate change in there too.
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That's so true.. Up here we aren't driven by a for-profit medical industry, and we're barely affected by the covid, for some reason.
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Not for-profit?

Ain't nobody got time fo' DAT!

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so basically Trump let's the CDC pay hospitals money if they say they died of corona virus

so Trump's in on the whole fucking thing
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NO Trump sent in military adults to monitor lgbtqp and democrat medical fraud for cash.
See we know who can-not-help-cheating and doing "revenge", we just still let them walk around loose.
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It would be interesting to see when those incentives were rolled out to the hospitals. I bet this reimbursement strategy was in effect before February.

They planned this hoax out very very well.
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That's so true.. Up here we aren't driven by a for-profit medical industry, and we're barely affected by the covid, for some reason.
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our largest healthcare services are non-profits in many states.

In Delaware, ChristianaCare is a non-profit, and the stste's largest employer.


please do not think your government is not interested in profits, however they name them.
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so basically Trump let's the CDC pay hospitals money if they say they died of corona virus

so Trump's in on the whole fucking thing
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so basically Trump let's the CDC pay hospitals money if they say they died of corona virus

so Trump's in on the whole fucking thing
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What? Trump let the CDC do what specifically?
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LoneStarRising,

We all know you're a Republican propagandist. There's been 153,000 Americans died fron the Trump Virus. You believe how many have died from it?
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NOT TO MENTION THE MONEY

HOSPITALS GET $17,000 PER REPORT

$37,000 PER PATIENT PUT ON A VENT

ALL COMES OUT OF MED CARE

FOLLOW THE MONEY

THAT'S WHY THERE ARE SO MANY CASES

MONEY IS A GOOD MOTIVATOR
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That's so true.. Up here we aren't driven by a for-profit medical industry, and we're barely affected by the covid, for some reason.
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Not for-profit?

Ain't nobody got time fo' DAT!

5a
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You child tards are like democrats? The system just recycles you, says some childish bullsh*t and you eat it right up?
You don't even know if the care you get is effective or quality? You're just a bunch of smiling children for putzing?
Jessica yaniv? Hello? "He prospers" punking putzes?

Fact of "free medicine" is that more die than in private care and the idiots are told anything and progged "accept it with a smile!" Which is a FAR cry from the original "grin and bear it" which does not even nearly mean the same thing.

Yes yes life in a self made hedonistic baby bubble! Aren't we all just GREEN with jealousy! Only the very best people get to deteriorate from 8 years old to 6......socialists.
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ScrumpTheTexan,

You're no Christian - youre an anticrist. We all know you're a Republican propagandist. There's been 153,000 Americans died fron the Trump Virus. You believe how many have died from it?


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NOT TO MENTION THE MONEY

HOSPITALS GET $17,000 PER REPORT

$37,000 PER PATIENT PUT ON A VENT

ALL COMES OUT OF MED CARE

FOLLOW THE MONEY

THAT'S WHY THERE ARE SO MANY CASES

MONEY IS A GOOD MOTIVATOR
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$13,900 per admission as well.
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United States hospitals have a “perverse” monetary “incentive” to increase their count of coronavirus fatalities, U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)’s director Robert Redfield indicated under questioning from a Republican lawmaker during a House panel hearing on Friday.

Asked to comment on what Rep. Blaine Luetkemeyer (R-MO) described as the “perverse incentive” during a hearing by the House Oversight and Reform Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis, Dr. Redfield responded:

I think you’re correct in that we’ve seen this in other disease processes too, really in the HIV epidemic, somebody may have a heart attack, but also have HIV — the hospital would prefer the [classification] for HIV because there’s greater reimbursement.

So I do think there’s some reality to that. When it comes to death reporting, though, ultimately, it’s how the physician defines it in the death certificate and … we review all of those death certificates.

So I think, probably it is less operable in the cause of death, although I won’t say there are not some cases. I do think though [that] when it comes to hospital reimbursement issues or individuals that get discharged, there could be some play in that for sure.

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Any incentive hospitals get for each Covid patient doesn't come close to the cost of treating the patient. Fact.

To suggest anyone is making money like this, is stupid.
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ScrumpTheTexan,

You're no Christian - youre an anticrist. We all know you're a Republican propagandist. There's been 153,000 Americans died fron the Trump Virus. You believe how many have died from it?


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hesright

The hypocrisy is obvious.
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Maybe if you or someone in your family gets the Trump Virus you'll believe in it. Leave a message for GLP with someone to post in case you die.
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United States hospitals have a “perverse” monetary “incentive” to increase their count of coronavirus fatalities, U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)’s director Robert Redfield indicated under questioning from a Republican lawmaker during a House panel hearing on Friday.

Asked to comment on what Rep. Blaine Luetkemeyer (R-MO) described as the “perverse incentive” during a hearing by the House Oversight and Reform Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis, Dr. Redfield responded:

I think you’re correct in that we’ve seen this in other disease processes too, really in the HIV epidemic, somebody may have a heart attack, but also have HIV — the hospital would prefer the [classification] for HIV because there’s greater reimbursement.

So I do think there’s some reality to that. When it comes to death reporting, though, ultimately, it’s how the physician defines it in the death certificate and … we review all of those death certificates.

So I think, probably it is less operable in the cause of death, although I won’t say there are not some cases. I do think though [that] when it comes to hospital reimbursement issues or individuals that get discharged, there could be some play in that for sure.

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 Quoting: LoneStarRising


Any incentive hospitals get for each Covid patient doesn't come close to the cost of treating the patient. Fact.

To suggest anyone is making money like this, is stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19862648


ummmm ... what?

so before covid, hospitals were losing even more money with every patient they brought through their doors?

did you actually think out your argument? at all?

the hospitals have this wonderful thing called.....BILLING

they actually bill patients for services rendered. even for a hoax covid patient, they still bill them AND get additional money on top of it from the govt

you covid supporters are getting desperate





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