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Professional Amateur Cancelling Tomorrow User ID: 78920526 United States 08/01/2020 11:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so patreon that everyone here touts as the place to go deplatforms users as well, colour me surprised.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79201889 So all the other big tech companies can deplatform at will but when Patreon does they get slapped with legal problems. The deep state just doesn't stop..... Consumer rights are involved with patreon and paypal. You can't deny a consumer access to the goods they purchased. They are fucked! |
WalrusRider User ID: 77947460 United States 08/01/2020 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I count this as a victory - but we need more. The left has censored us and dominated the information war for too long. All billionaires, banksters, and people in high-ranking positions of power (both public and private) who have not openly and strongly come out against woke ideology and globalism are our enemies - as are their minions. They are the NWO. |
Cozzy (OP) User ID: 75833507 United States 08/01/2020 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The real question is why patreon, and not, twatter, facecrack, etc... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79201889 Probably because of the kind of membership platform and the perks bestowed on patrons who suffered loss. The plaintiffs in this case were the patrons, not the content creator. An arbitration clause inserted into Patreon’s TOS seems to have been their undoing, if I’m interpreting this right. Hope this is the beginning of lots of new strategies for lawsuits. |
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Professional Amateur Cancelling Tomorrow User ID: 78920526 United States 08/01/2020 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good info at this link: [link to reclaimthenet.org (secure)] "Cernovich added that in this specific case, because Patreon changed its terms of service after it was put on notice by Benjamin’s former backers, it could also face arbitrations because it unilaterally altered the terms of service “in a way that’s illegal under California law.” Last Edited by Professional Amateur on 08/01/2020 11:41 AM |
Mercury Phoenix User ID: 77727178 United States 08/01/2020 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It looks like Patreon will have to pay out millions for arbitration fees. Quoting: Cozzy [link to reclaimthenet.org (secure)] The eagle never lost so much time, as when he submitted to learn of the crow. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79214114 Spain 08/01/2020 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so patreon that everyone here touts as the place to go deplatforms users as well, colour me surprised.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79201889 So all the other big tech companies can deplatform at will but when Patreon does they get slapped with legal problems. The deep state just doesn't stop..... Consumer rights are involved with patreon and paypal. You can't deny a consumer access to the goods they purchased. They are fucked! You mean like when you purchase an account here which is supposed to give you ban immunity, yet you get banned anyway? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79214114 Spain 08/01/2020 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so patreon that everyone here touts as the place to go deplatforms users as well, colour me surprised.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79201889 So all the other big tech companies can deplatform at will but when Patreon does they get slapped with legal problems. The deep state just doesn't stop..... Consumer rights are involved with patreon and paypal. You can't deny a consumer access to the goods they purchased. They are fucked! You mean like when you purchase an account here which is supposed to give you ban immunity, yet you get banned anyway? And even if you did have ban immunity, do you really have the freedom to speak that you PURCHASED if there is a secret word list that will result in your posts not posting? Examine yourselves, your hypocrisy is noted. |
Professional Amateur Cancelling Tomorrow User ID: 78920526 United States 08/01/2020 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22847021 So all the other big tech companies can deplatform at will but when Patreon does they get slapped with legal problems. The deep state just doesn't stop..... Consumer rights are involved with patreon and paypal. You can't deny a consumer access to the goods they purchased. They are fucked! You mean like when you purchase an account here which is supposed to give you ban immunity, yet you get banned anyway? And even if you did have ban immunity, do you really have the freedom to speak that you PURCHASED if there is a secret word list that will result in your posts not posting? Examine yourselves, your hypocrisy is noted. There are still terms which you must abide by, read them. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77558496 Poland 08/01/2020 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It looks like Patreon will have to pay out millions for arbitration fees. Quoting: Cozzy [link to reclaimthenet.org (secure)] TARDS PRIVATE BUSINESSES CAN DEPLATFORM ANYONE SAME AS PRIVATE BUSINESS GLP CAN BAN ANYONE AND DELETE THEIR POSTS / THREADS YOU DO NOT HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO A "PLATFORM" "PLATFORMS" ARE A SERVICE THAT YOU ARE OFFERED FOR FREE BY PRIVATE BUSINESSES PATREON, YOUTUBE, FACEBOOK, TWITTER.... ARE ALL PRIVATE PROPERTY, PRIVATE BUSINESSES.... THEY ARE NOT PUBLIC OWNED BUSINESSES SINCE THEY ARE NOT OWNED BY THE PUBLIC, THEY CAN CHOOSE TO DEPLATFORM ANYONE THEY WANT THAT IS THEIR RIGHT AS A PRIVATE BUSINESS |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77558496 Poland 08/01/2020 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NO HE DOES NOT PAYPAL IS A PRIVATELY OWNED BUSINESS NO ONE HAS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO PAYPAL PAYPAL CAN SEVERE SERVICE TO ANYONE THEY WANT BECAUSE THEY ARE A PRIVATELY OWNED BUSINESS SAME AS HOW GLP IS A PRIVATELY OWNED BUSINESS, AND HAS THE RIGHT TO BAN USERS |
Professional Amateur Cancelling Tomorrow User ID: 78920526 United States 08/01/2020 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It looks like Patreon will have to pay out millions for arbitration fees. Quoting: Cozzy [link to reclaimthenet.org (secure)] TARDS PRIVATE BUSINESSES CAN DEPLATFORM ANYONE SAME AS PRIVATE BUSINESS GLP CAN BAN ANYONE AND DELETE THEIR POSTS / THREADS YOU DO NOT HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO A "PLATFORM" "PLATFORMS" ARE A SERVICE THAT YOU ARE OFFERED FOR FREE BY PRIVATE BUSINESSES PATREON, YOUTUBE, FACEBOOK, TWITTER.... ARE ALL PRIVATE PROPERTY, PRIVATE BUSINESSES.... THEY ARE NOT PUBLIC OWNED BUSINESSES SINCE THEY ARE NOT OWNED BY THE PUBLIC, THEY CAN CHOOSE TO DEPLATFORM ANYONE THEY WANT THAT IS THEIR RIGHT AS A PRIVATE BUSINESS The court ruing disagrees with you fucktard. |
Professional Amateur Cancelling Tomorrow User ID: 78920526 United States 08/01/2020 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NO HE DOES NOT PAYPAL IS A PRIVATELY OWNED BUSINESS NO ONE HAS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO PAYPAL PAYPAL CAN SEVERE SERVICE TO ANYONE THEY WANT BECAUSE THEY ARE A PRIVATELY OWNED BUSINESS SAME AS HOW GLP IS A PRIVATELY OWNED BUSINESS, AND HAS THE RIGHT TO BAN USERS Wrong, we used paypal to purchase a "goods and services" from GLP and we were denied access to paid membership for a brief period. Some even were charged after paypal severed ties. GFY Edit for clarification: some were denied renewing their paid memberships. Last Edited by Professional Amateur on 08/01/2020 01:39 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77558496 Poland 08/01/2020 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It looks like Patreon will have to pay out millions for arbitration fees. Quoting: Cozzy [link to reclaimthenet.org (secure)] TARDS PRIVATE BUSINESSES CAN DEPLATFORM ANYONE SAME AS PRIVATE BUSINESS GLP CAN BAN ANYONE AND DELETE THEIR POSTS / THREADS YOU DO NOT HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO A "PLATFORM" "PLATFORMS" ARE A SERVICE THAT YOU ARE OFFERED FOR FREE BY PRIVATE BUSINESSES PATREON, YOUTUBE, FACEBOOK, TWITTER.... ARE ALL PRIVATE PROPERTY, PRIVATE BUSINESSES.... THEY ARE NOT PUBLIC OWNED BUSINESSES SINCE THEY ARE NOT OWNED BY THE PUBLIC, THEY CAN CHOOSE TO DEPLATFORM ANYONE THEY WANT THAT IS THEIR RIGHT AS A PRIVATE BUSINESS The court ruing disagrees with you fucktard. SO WHERE IN THE CONSTITUTION DOES IT SAY YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO A PLATFORM? DID YOU BUILD PATREON? DO YOU MAINTAIN IT? DOES THE PUBLIC OWN IT? OR IS IT A PRIVATE BUSINESS? WHAT MAKES YOU THINK YOU ARE ENTITLED TO SOCIAL MEDIA OR ANY PLATFORM THAT YOU DID NOT BUILD THAT YOU GET TO USE FOR FREE? DOES THE PUBLIC OWN PATREON? DOES THE GOVERNMENT? NOPE, PRIVATE BUSINESS IS NOT OWNED BY THE PUBLIC, NOT MAINTAINED BY THE PUBLIC, SO WHAT RIGHT DOES THE PUBLIC HAVE TO PRIVATE BUSINESSES? THE GOVERNMENT INTERVENING IN THE AFFAIRS OF PRIVATE BUSINESSES IS A COMMUNIST PRACTICE, NOT CAPITALIST |
Professional Amateur Cancelling Tomorrow User ID: 78920526 United States 08/01/2020 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It looks like Patreon will have to pay out millions for arbitration fees. Quoting: Cozzy [link to reclaimthenet.org (secure)] TARDS PRIVATE BUSINESSES CAN DEPLATFORM ANYONE SAME AS PRIVATE BUSINESS GLP CAN BAN ANYONE AND DELETE THEIR POSTS / THREADS YOU DO NOT HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO A "PLATFORM" "PLATFORMS" ARE A SERVICE THAT YOU ARE OFFERED FOR FREE BY PRIVATE BUSINESSES PATREON, YOUTUBE, FACEBOOK, TWITTER.... ARE ALL PRIVATE PROPERTY, PRIVATE BUSINESSES.... THEY ARE NOT PUBLIC OWNED BUSINESSES SINCE THEY ARE NOT OWNED BY THE PUBLIC, THEY CAN CHOOSE TO DEPLATFORM ANYONE THEY WANT THAT IS THEIR RIGHT AS A PRIVATE BUSINESS The court ruing disagrees with you fucktard. SO WHERE IN THE CONSTITUTION DOES IT SAY YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO A PLATFORM? DID YOU BUILD PATREON? DO YOU MAINTAIN IT? DOES THE PUBLIC OWN IT? OR IS IT A PRIVATE BUSINESS? WHAT MAKES YOU THINK YOU ARE ENTITLED TO SOCIAL MEDIA OR ANY PLATFORM THAT YOU DID NOT BUILD THAT YOU GET TO USE FOR FREE? DOES THE PUBLIC OWN PATREON? DOES THE GOVERNMENT? NOPE, PRIVATE BUSINESS IS NOT OWNED BY THE PUBLIC, NOT MAINTAINED BY THE PUBLIC, SO WHAT RIGHT DOES THE PUBLIC HAVE TO PRIVATE BUSINESSES? THE GOVERNMENT INTERVENING IN THE AFFAIRS OF PRIVATE BUSINESSES IS A COMMUNIST PRACTICE, NOT CAPITALIST Argue with the court bitch. It's a done deal, you lost this argument. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78664283 United States 08/01/2020 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NO HE DOES NOT PAYPAL IS A PRIVATELY OWNED BUSINESS NO ONE HAS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO PAYPAL PAYPAL CAN SEVERE SERVICE TO ANYONE THEY WANT BECAUSE THEY ARE A PRIVATELY OWNED BUSINESS SAME AS HOW GLP IS A PRIVATELY OWNED BUSINESS, AND HAS THE RIGHT TO BAN USERS Dats raciss! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77558496 Poland 08/01/2020 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NO HE DOES NOT PAYPAL IS A PRIVATELY OWNED BUSINESS NO ONE HAS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO PAYPAL PAYPAL CAN SEVERE SERVICE TO ANYONE THEY WANT BECAUSE THEY ARE A PRIVATELY OWNED BUSINESS SAME AS HOW GLP IS A PRIVATELY OWNED BUSINESS, AND HAS THE RIGHT TO BAN USERS Wrong, we used paypal to purchase a "goods and services" from GLP and we were denied access to paid membership for a brief period. Some even were charged after paypal severed ties. GFY AND WHERE IN PAYPAL'S TERMS OF SERVICE DOES IT SAY IT MUST OFFER SERVICES TO GLP? PAYPAL SAW THE CESS POOL OF HATE AND RACISM THAT IS POSTED ON GLP DAILY AND SAID WE NO LONGER WISH TO DO BUSINESS WITH YOU. THAT IS PAYPAL'S RIGHT AS A PRIVATE BUSINESS IF PAYPAL WAS A REAL LIFE BRICK AND MORTAR STORE, AND TRINITY OR ANYOEN CAME IN AND STARTED TALKING RACIST OR HATEFUL SHIT, PAYPAL COULD HAVE TRINITY REMOVED OFF THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY. AND IF TRINITY REFUSED TO LEAVE, PAYPAL WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO CALL THE POLICE TO HAVE TRINITY REMOVED FROM THEIR PRIVATE PROERTY THAT IS THE RIGHT OF PROPERTY OWNERS YOU ALL SEEM TO THINK YOU OWN AND ARE ENTITLED TO PRIVATE BUSINESSES THAT YOU DO NOT MAINTAIN NOR BUILT BUT USE THEIR SERVICES |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77558496 Poland 08/01/2020 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77558496 TARDS PRIVATE BUSINESSES CAN DEPLATFORM ANYONE SAME AS PRIVATE BUSINESS GLP CAN BAN ANYONE AND DELETE THEIR POSTS / THREADS YOU DO NOT HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO A "PLATFORM" "PLATFORMS" ARE A SERVICE THAT YOU ARE OFFERED FOR FREE BY PRIVATE BUSINESSES PATREON, YOUTUBE, FACEBOOK, TWITTER.... ARE ALL PRIVATE PROPERTY, PRIVATE BUSINESSES.... THEY ARE NOT PUBLIC OWNED BUSINESSES SINCE THEY ARE NOT OWNED BY THE PUBLIC, THEY CAN CHOOSE TO DEPLATFORM ANYONE THEY WANT THAT IS THEIR RIGHT AS A PRIVATE BUSINESS The court ruing disagrees with you fucktard. SO WHERE IN THE CONSTITUTION DOES IT SAY YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO A PLATFORM? DID YOU BUILD PATREON? DO YOU MAINTAIN IT? DOES THE PUBLIC OWN IT? OR IS IT A PRIVATE BUSINESS? WHAT MAKES YOU THINK YOU ARE ENTITLED TO SOCIAL MEDIA OR ANY PLATFORM THAT YOU DID NOT BUILD THAT YOU GET TO USE FOR FREE? DOES THE PUBLIC OWN PATREON? DOES THE GOVERNMENT? NOPE, PRIVATE BUSINESS IS NOT OWNED BY THE PUBLIC, NOT MAINTAINED BY THE PUBLIC, SO WHAT RIGHT DOES THE PUBLIC HAVE TO PRIVATE BUSINESSES? THE GOVERNMENT INTERVENING IN THE AFFAIRS OF PRIVATE BUSINESSES IS A COMMUNIST PRACTICE, NOT CAPITALIST Argue with the court bitch. It's a done deal, you lost this argument. EVERYONE LOSES IF THE GOVERNMENT CAN TELL PRIVATE BUSINESSES WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT DO WITH THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT IS COMMUNISM...WHEN THE GOVT INTERVENES AND SAYS PRIVATE BUSINESSES MUST DO THIS OR THAT SO CONGRATS, YOU ALL SUPPORT COMMUNISM BECAUSE YOU ARE ENTITLED BRATS WHO THINK YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO THINGS YOU HAVE NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS TO |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79205875 Germany 08/01/2020 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Professional Amateur Consumer rights are involved with patreon and paypal. You can't deny a consumer access to the goods they purchased. They are fucked! You mean like when you purchase an account here which is supposed to give you ban immunity, yet you get banned anyway? And even if you did have ban immunity, do you really have the freedom to speak that you PURCHASED if there is a secret word list that will result in your posts not posting? Examine yourselves, your hypocrisy is noted. There are still terms which you must abide by, read them. Are you stupid? Read the disclaimer and shut the fuck up. |
Professional Amateur Cancelling Tomorrow User ID: 78920526 United States 08/01/2020 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NO HE DOES NOT PAYPAL IS A PRIVATELY OWNED BUSINESS NO ONE HAS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO PAYPAL PAYPAL CAN SEVERE SERVICE TO ANYONE THEY WANT BECAUSE THEY ARE A PRIVATELY OWNED BUSINESS SAME AS HOW GLP IS A PRIVATELY OWNED BUSINESS, AND HAS THE RIGHT TO BAN USERS Wrong, we used paypal to purchase a "goods and services" from GLP and we were denied access to paid membership for a brief period. Some even were charged after paypal severed ties. GFY AND WHERE IN PAYPAL'S TERMS OF SERVICE DOES IT SAY IT MUST OFFER SERVICES TO GLP? PAYPAL SAW THE CESS POOL OF HATE AND RACISM THAT IS POSTED ON GLP DAILY AND SAID WE NO LONGER WISH TO DO BUSINESS WITH YOU. THAT IS PAYPAL'S RIGHT AS A PRIVATE BUSINESS IF PAYPAL WAS A REAL LIFE BRICK AND MORTAR STORE, AND TRINITY OR ANYOEN CAME IN AND STARTED TALKING RACIST OR HATEFUL SHIT, PAYPAL COULD HAVE TRINITY REMOVED OFF THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY. AND IF TRINITY REFUSED TO LEAVE, PAYPAL WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO CALL THE POLICE TO HAVE TRINITY REMOVED FROM THEIR PRIVATE PROERTY THAT IS THE RIGHT OF PROPERTY OWNERS YOU ALL SEEM TO THINK YOU OWN AND ARE ENTITLED TO PRIVATE BUSINESSES THAT YOU DO NOT MAINTAIN NOR BUILT BUT USE THEIR SERVICES Again, argue with the court, not me. Paypal is next on the arbitration block. |
Professional Amateur Cancelling Tomorrow User ID: 78920526 United States 08/01/2020 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79214114 You mean like when you purchase an account here which is supposed to give you ban immunity, yet you get banned anyway? And even if you did have ban immunity, do you really have the freedom to speak that you PURCHASED if there is a secret word list that will result in your posts not posting? Examine yourselves, your hypocrisy is noted. There are still terms which you must abide by, read them. Are you stupid? Read the disclaimer and shut the fuck up. Read the Terms of Use you fucking dick! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79205875 Germany 08/01/2020 01:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79214114 And even if you did have ban immunity, do you really have the freedom to speak that you PURCHASED if there is a secret word list that will result in your posts not posting? Examine yourselves, your hypocrisy is noted. There are still terms which you must abide by, read them. Are you stupid? Read the disclaimer and shut the fuck up. Read the Terms of Use you fucking dick! They are VOID by the disclaimer, you stupid piece of shit. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN WORD YOU READ ON THIS WEBSITE! |