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Our justice system is just too slow and cumbersome.

 
~Newton's Own~  (OP)

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 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Hiya newton
You're right, it is too big, too rigged, and too corrupt. I was thinking neighborhood groups, but the rich and the violent areas would let each other off. The middle would convict each other. We need to practice jury nullification for ridiculous laws. But we can see certain groups want to let each other off for terrible crimes.
Need local groups of wise people with no financial interest in the outcome.
Too m any laws
Drugs should be otc, I'm not someones baby sitter. Access to treatment if they are addicted.
It's good to have these conversations, though, how else can we figure out a way?
I think I'd go through the laws and get rid of most of them
Basically comes down to point of 10 commandments. Honor God, honor others, honor yourself.
Don't abuse or steal from others, or yourself
Then we have freaks who try to pretend it pedo s aren't hurting kids
What do you do with someone whose whole moral system is so degraded?
 Quoting: zzcat


Yes, ZZ, there are many issues.

Good to at least have the convo.

You never know who's reading along.
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

Fear cuts deeper than swords.

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Now I'm wondering if it's possible? This is a big problem
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Now I'm wondering if it's possible? This is a big problem
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Huge.
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

Fear cuts deeper than swords.

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 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Hiya newton
You're right, it is too big, too rigged, and too corrupt. I was thinking neighborhood groups, but the rich and the violent areas would let each other off. The middle would convict each other. We need to practice jury nullification for ridiculous laws. But we can see certain groups want to let each other off for terrible crimes.
Need local groups of wise people with no financial interest in the outcome.
Too m any laws
Drugs should be otc, I'm not someones baby sitter. Access to treatment if they are addicted.
It's good to have these conversations, though, how else can we figure out a way?
I think I'd go through the laws and get rid of most of them
Basically comes down to point of 10 commandments. Honor God, honor others, honor yourself.
Don't abuse or steal from others, or yourself
Then we have freaks who try to pretend it pedo s aren't hurting kids
What do you do with someone whose whole moral system is so degraded?
 Quoting: zzcat


Yes, ZZ, there are many issues.

Good to at least have the convo.

You never know who's reading along.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Yes
And if they falsely accuse someone, or present false witness, they should get the punishment that person would have received
Someone had a thread here about two women who killed the ones son. The police know they did it, the one said what she had done, but we have to go through long trials and still Maybe no punishment? That should be instant.
And then we have the media, who tries to say public opinion based on their bias, not on the truth.
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 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Hiya newton
You're right, it is too big, too rigged, and too corrupt. I was thinking neighborhood groups, but the rich and the violent areas would let each other off. The middle would convict each other. We need to practice jury nullification for ridiculous laws. But we can see certain groups want to let each other off for terrible crimes.
Need local groups of wise people with no financial interest in the outcome.
Too m any laws
Drugs should be otc, I'm not someones baby sitter. Access to treatment if they are addicted.
It's good to have these conversations, though, how else can we figure out a way?
I think I'd go through the laws and get rid of most of them
Basically comes down to point of 10 commandments. Honor God, honor others, honor yourself.
Don't abuse or steal from others, or yourself
Then we have freaks who try to pretend it pedo s aren't hurting kids
What do you do with someone whose whole moral system is so degraded?
 Quoting: zzcat


Yes, ZZ, there are many issues.

Good to at least have the convo.

You never know who's reading along.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Yes
And if they falsely accuse someone, or present false witness, they should get the punishment that person would have received
Someone had a thread here about two women who killed the ones son. The police know they did it, the one said what she had done, but we have to go through long trials and still Maybe no punishment? That should be instant.
And then we have the media, who tries to say public opinion based on their bias, not on the truth.
 Quoting: zzcat


But you also have individuals jailed for 20 or 30 years freed on DNA evidence, so we must be careful.
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

Fear cuts deeper than swords.

#Notmypresident.
zzcat

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Hiya newton
You're right, it is too big, too rigged, and too corrupt. I was thinking neighborhood groups, but the rich and the violent areas would let each other off. The middle would convict each other. We need to practice jury nullification for ridiculous laws. But we can see certain groups want to let each other off for terrible crimes.
Need local groups of wise people with no financial interest in the outcome.
Too m any laws
Drugs should be otc, I'm not someones baby sitter. Access to treatment if they are addicted.
It's good to have these conversations, though, how else can we figure out a way?
I think I'd go through the laws and get rid of most of them
Basically comes down to point of 10 commandments. Honor God, honor others, honor yourself.
Don't abuse or steal from others, or yourself
Then we have freaks who try to pretend it pedo s aren't hurting kids
What do you do with someone whose whole moral system is so degraded?
 Quoting: zzcat


Yes, ZZ, there are many issues.

Good to at least have the convo.

You never know who's reading along.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Yes
And if they falsely accuse someone, or present false witness, they should get the punishment that person would have received
Someone had a thread here about two women who killed the ones son. The police know they did it, the one said what she had done, but we have to go through long trials and still Maybe no punishment? That should be instant.
And then we have the media, who tries to say public opinion based on their bias, not on the truth.
 Quoting: zzcat


But you also have individuals jailed for 20 or 30 years freed on DNA evidence, so we must be careful.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Exactly
Instant would have to be overwhelming obvious. And have to know it wasn't an accident, for example
And that's why I put in about false accusations or evidence
Whoever did judge, would have to have a salary that no o he could influence, and not be allowed to accept dinners or gifts or anything
You got any ideas?
zzcat

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Crooked, convoluted, and corrupt maybe more accurate words to describe...
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I only know of o ne way, people would need to Want to change. The only way I know to change is through Christ, instantly or eventually, in Christ you no longer have the desire to do wrong

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zzcat

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I only know of o ne way, people would need to Want to change. The only way I know to change is through Christ, instantly or eventually, in Christ you no longer have the desire to do wrong
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True.

Thanks for your contributions to the thread ZZ.
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

Fear cuts deeper than swords.

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I only know of o ne way, people would need to Want to change. The only way I know to change is through Christ, instantly or eventually, in Christ you no longer have the desire to do wrong
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True.

Thanks for your contributions to the thread ZZ.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Thanks for letting me think in your thread newt. Like to hear yours and others ideas.
Hope you are all well


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