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Excellent Article About What is Happening Now: 34 Years Ago, a KGB Defector Chillingly Predicted Modern America | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78936401  Brazil08/03/2020 09:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Excellent Article About What is Happening Now: 34 Years Ago, a KGB Defector Chillingly Predicted Modern America 20 million people died in the USSR. How many people were punished after the USSR fell? Were people in a position of power removed with the fall of the USSR? Vladimir Putin was head of the KGB during this period. What is most amazing here is that you are so naive. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79187554  Italy08/03/2020 09:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Excellent Article About What is Happening Now: 34 Years Ago, a KGB Defector Chillingly Predicted Modern America This is worth the read. Quoting: Alpacalips Bezmenov described this process as "a great brainwashing" which has four basic stages. - The first stage is called "demoralization" which takes from 15 to 20 years to achieve. - According to the former KGB agent, that is the minimum number of years it takes to re-educate one generation of students that is normally exposed to the ideology of its country. For anyone who is still wondering, the Mueller Report makes it clear that Russian operatives played a role in the American elections of 2016 that resulted in the Presidency of Donald Trump. The true impact of that role is certainly open to debate. Since then, Trump has on occasion been quite nice to the Russian President Putin, occasionally seen as capitulating on important matters. Whether you believe Putin really has some kind of compromising material to make Trump do his bidding or if Trump is simply being nice to people who partially helped get him elected, or if you somehow believe, despite ample evidence to the contrary, that all this is much ado about nothing, the fact is President Putin is a very experienced former KGB officer. He has both the know-how and the intelligence to carry out very far-sighted and ingenious operations. We don't know his endgame and neither do we know how much of his KGB training he still employs, but in light of current events, there may be a way for us to get a deeper understanding by studying the words of Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmenov, a former KGB agent who defected to Canada in 1970. In 1984, Bezmenov gave an interview to G. Edward Griffin from which much can be learned today. His most chilling point was that there's a long-term plan put in play by Russia to defeat America through psychological warfare and "demoralization". It's a long game that takes decades to achieve but it may already be bearing fruit. Bezmenov made the point that the work of the KGB mainly does not involve espionage, despite what our popular culture may tell us. Most of the work, 85% of it, was "a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare." What does that mean? Bezmenov explained that the most striking thing about ideological subversion is that it happens in the open as a legitimate process. "You can see it with your own eyes," he said. The American media would be able to see it, if it just focused on it. More at link. [link to bigthink.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] WAR IS PEACE IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH FREEDOM IS SLAVERY |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77978468 United States08/03/2020 09:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Excellent Article About What is Happening Now: 34 Years Ago, a KGB Defector Chillingly Predicted Modern America This is worth the read. Quoting: Alpacalips Bezmenov described this process as "a great brainwashing" which has four basic stages. - The first stage is called "demoralization" which takes from 15 to 20 years to achieve. - According to the former KGB agent, that is the minimum number of years it takes to re-educate one generation of students that is normally exposed to the ideology of its country. For anyone who is still wondering, the Mueller Report makes it clear that Russian operatives played a role in the American elections of 2016 that resulted in the Presidency of Donald Trump. The true impact of that role is certainly open to debate. Since then, Trump has on occasion been quite nice to the Russian President Putin, occasionally seen as capitulating on important matters. Whether you believe Putin really has some kind of compromising material to make Trump do his bidding or if Trump is simply being nice to people who partially helped get him elected, or if you somehow believe, despite ample evidence to the contrary, that all this is much ado about nothing, the fact is President Putin is a very experienced former KGB officer. He has both the know-how and the intelligence to carry out very far-sighted and ingenious operations. We don't know his endgame and neither do we know how much of his KGB training he still employs, but in light of current events, there may be a way for us to get a deeper understanding by studying the words of Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmenov, a former KGB agent who defected to Canada in 1970. In 1984, Bezmenov gave an interview to G. Edward Griffin from which much can be learned today. His most chilling point was that there's a long-term plan put in play by Russia to defeat America through psychological warfare and "demoralization". It's a long game that takes decades to achieve but it may already be bearing fruit. Bezmenov made the point that the work of the KGB mainly does not involve espionage, despite what our popular culture may tell us. Most of the work, 85% of it, was "a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare." What does that mean? Bezmenov explained that the most striking thing about ideological subversion is that it happens in the open as a legitimate process. "You can see it with your own eyes," he said. The American media would be able to see it, if it just focused on it. More at link. [link to bigthink.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] I have read and watched this stuff before... and even Sadhguru featured him. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77978468 United States08/03/2020 09:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Excellent Article About What is Happening Now: 34 Years Ago, a KGB Defector Chillingly Predicted Modern America 20 million people died in the USSR. How many people were punished after the USSR fell? Were people in a position of power removed with the fall of the USSR? Vladimir Putin was head of the KGB during this period. What is most amazing here is that you are so naive. what is so amazing is that you are naive on Putin.. just because he was in the KGB proves nothing... He cleaned up the dark shits in Russia though.. most anyway... while we still deal with ours.. and he brought back Christianity and he made Russia a Republic.. we lost ours ..to "DEMONocracy. And everyone who supports Demonocracy.. is a traitor to this world... most of course in their utter ignorance. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70707278 United States08/03/2020 10:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Excellent Article About What is Happening Now: 34 Years Ago, a KGB Defector Chillingly Predicted Modern America what more evidence do people need to prove to them that Trump is a Russian opp? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69725706 I mean, seriously after 4 years of Trump there is nothing left in America but riots no sports schools are closing small business destroyed Lots more proof. Here’s why: You’re missing (or deliberately eliminating) the other alternative altogether. Let’s humor your concept.... IF Trump is an “agent” or asset for Putin and Russia, why would the other US political party (what should them be our only “hope” to escape this Russian “infiltration”)...WHY would the other party/ alternative to Trump/ Russia.....why are they communistic in nature themselves and OPENLY so....complicit in enabling/ championing riots and civil unrest by the complicit media, complicit in endorsing open borders and illegal infiltration of our borders, complicit policies aimed at destroying the nuclear family and the institutions of religion in the US- * except for one religion...you can guess which one that is, that they placate to left and right. So....if you’re really using logic to evaluate the larger picture, you might understand why so many are taking a chance with what (might?) be a Russian asset, as opposed to choosing the party of socialism/ communism/ open borders/ submission to Islam etc. Do you see yet? Or is it just a denial regarding the leftist party’s anti American behavior? THAT is somehow good? Or even a better scenario than Trump’s worse-case secret? |
| Anony-Mom User ID: 78786103 United States08/03/2020 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Excellent Article About What is Happening Now: 34 Years Ago, a KGB Defector Chillingly Predicted Modern America This is a better video, although the video is older. Starting at the 36;00 mark- When a country is brought to CRISIS- When you watch it it IS going to blow your mind of what he is talking about and where WE as a country are now. This IS right out of the Marxist Playbook. Problem-Action-Solution Create the problem= police brutality, and now racism/in-equality Action= BLM/Antifa protests and riots Solution=bring in a "savior/Democrat who is going to promise peace-lol Think not, take an HONEST look at what is going on right now. In my state they are constantly saying the words "city in crisis" and then they say the other key words "new normal". It HAS TO BE STOPPED NOW or this is where we go, and we can STILL stop this. Or- There is only 2 ways to go-- Civil War Or Invasion |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79187554 Italy08/03/2020 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Excellent Article About What is Happening Now: 34 Years Ago, a KGB Defector Chillingly Predicted Modern America And if you cant see the marxist lenanist brainwashing all throughout society and education today then you are totally blind. Social fucking justice warriors.. Ideologies of equality. Its all totally against real Americanism and real patriotism and real freedom. let me tell you something brainwashed morans.. Human beings are born with different capacities, if they are free, they are not equal. And if they are equal, they are not free." |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78188484 United States08/03/2020 10:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Excellent Article About What is Happening Now: 34 Years Ago, a KGB Defector Chillingly Predicted Modern America what more evidence do people need to prove to them that Trump is a Russian opp? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69725706 I mean, seriously after 4 years of Trump there is nothing left in America but riots no sports schools are closing small business destroyed What is the party of the mayor of cities having riots? Democrat. Which governors put the harshest restrictions in place? Democrat. Who did Dr. Fauci support for President in 2016? Hillary Clinton. What party was Hillary Clinton? Democrat. What party does the teachers union support? Democrat. What party do the millionaires that own sports teams and the millionaires who are the players support? Democrat. Seems to me that the Russians are operating on the Dem side, not the Republican side. |
| Alpacalips (OP) User ID: 77694187 United States08/03/2020 10:30 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Excellent Article About What is Happening Now: 34 Years Ago, a KGB Defector Chillingly Predicted Modern America This is a better video, although the video is older. Starting at the 36;00 mark- When a country is brought to CRISIS- When you watch it it IS going to blow your mind of what he is talking about and where WE as a country are now. This IS right out of the Marxist Playbook. Problem-Action-Solution Create the problem= police brutality, and now racism/in-equality Action= BLM/Antifa protests and riots Solution=bring in a "savior/Democrat who is going to promise peace-lol Think not, take an HONEST look at what is going on right now. In my state they are constantly saying the words "city in crisis" and then they say the other key words "new normal". It HAS TO BE STOPPED NOW or this is where we go, and we can STILL stop this. Or- Quoting: Anony-Mom 78786103 There is only 2 ways to go-- Civil War Or Invasion Thank you! I will watch it this afternoon. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79152778 United States08/03/2020 10:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Excellent Article About What is Happening Now: 34 Years Ago, a KGB Defector Chillingly Predicted Modern America This is worth the read. Quoting: Alpacalips Bezmenov described this process as "a great brainwashing" which has four basic stages. - The first stage is called "demoralization" which takes from 15 to 20 years to achieve. - According to the former KGB agent, that is the minimum number of years it takes to re-educate one generation of students that is normally exposed to the ideology of its country. For anyone who is still wondering, the Mueller Report makes it clear that Russian operatives played a role in the American elections of 2016 that resulted in the Presidency of Donald Trump. The true impact of that role is certainly open to debate. Since then, Trump has on occasion been quite nice to the Russian President Putin, occasionally seen as capitulating on important matters. Whether you believe Putin really has some kind of compromising material to make Trump do his bidding or if Trump is simply being nice to people who partially helped get him elected, or if you somehow believe, despite ample evidence to the contrary, that all this is much ado about nothing, the fact is President Putin is a very experienced former KGB officer. He has both the know-how and the intelligence to carry out very far-sighted and ingenious operations. We don't know his endgame and neither do we know how much of his KGB training he still employs, but in light of current events, there may be a way for us to get a deeper understanding by studying the words of Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmenov, a former KGB agent who defected to Canada in 1970. In 1984, Bezmenov gave an interview to G. Edward Griffin from which much can be learned today. His most chilling point was that there's a long-term plan put in play by Russia to defeat America through psychological warfare and "demoralization". It's a long game that takes decades to achieve but it may already be bearing fruit. Bezmenov made the point that the work of the KGB mainly does not involve espionage, despite what our popular culture may tell us. Most of the work, 85% of it, was "a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare." What does that mean? Bezmenov explained that the most striking thing about ideological subversion is that it happens in the open as a legitimate process. "You can see it with your own eyes," he said. The American media would be able to see it, if it just focused on it. More at link. [link to bigthink.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] "For anyone who is still wondering, the Mueller Report makes it clear that Russian operatives played a role in the American elections of 2016 that resulted in the Presidency of Donald Trump." Your first line is false so call BS on this. Due to not wanting some I know who had first hand knowledge of what went down I can only say the Ruskies did infiltrate computer systems but our guys were watching for any move made - and none were. This means - no alteration of election results happened. The entire Mueller report was a distracting fraud meant to give people like you an easy way to make half-truth assertions as you have. 1-star and unpin request for being a crap thread. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77978468 United States08/03/2020 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Excellent Article About What is Happening Now: 34 Years Ago, a KGB Defector Chillingly Predicted Modern America This is worth the read. Quoting: Alpacalips Bezmenov described this process as "a great brainwashing" which has four basic stages. - The first stage is called "demoralization" which takes from 15 to 20 years to achieve. - According to the former KGB agent, that is the minimum number of years it takes to re-educate one generation of students that is normally exposed to the ideology of its country. For anyone who is still wondering, the Mueller Report makes it clear that Russian operatives played a role in the American elections of 2016 that resulted in the Presidency of Donald Trump. The true impact of that role is certainly open to debate. Since then, Trump has on occasion been quite nice to the Russian President Putin, occasionally seen as capitulating on important matters. Whether you believe Putin really has some kind of compromising material to make Trump do his bidding or if Trump is simply being nice to people who partially helped get him elected, or if you somehow believe, despite ample evidence to the contrary, that all this is much ado about nothing, the fact is President Putin is a very experienced former KGB officer. He has both the know-how and the intelligence to carry out very far-sighted and ingenious operations. We don't know his endgame and neither do we know how much of his KGB training he still employs, but in light of current events, there may be a way for us to get a deeper understanding by studying the words of Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmenov, a former KGB agent who defected to Canada in 1970. In 1984, Bezmenov gave an interview to G. Edward Griffin from which much can be learned today. His most chilling point was that there's a long-term plan put in play by Russia to defeat America through psychological warfare and "demoralization". It's a long game that takes decades to achieve but it may already be bearing fruit. Bezmenov made the point that the work of the KGB mainly does not involve espionage, despite what our popular culture may tell us. Most of the work, 85% of it, was "a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare." What does that mean? Bezmenov explained that the most striking thing about ideological subversion is that it happens in the open as a legitimate process. "You can see it with your own eyes," he said. The American media would be able to see it, if it just focused on it. More at link. [link to bigthink.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] "For anyone who is still wondering, the Mueller Report makes it clear that Russian operatives played a role in the American elections of 2016 that resulted in the Presidency of Donald Trump." Your first line is false so call BS on this. Due to not wanting some I know who had first hand knowledge of what went down I can only say the Ruskies did infiltrate computer systems but our guys were watching for any move made - and none were. This means - no alteration of election results happened. The entire Mueller report was a distracting fraud meant to give people like you an easy way to make half-truth assertions as you have. 1-star and unpin request for being a crap thread. Do you ones who post this stuff ever consider how many elections the USA has fucked up since my own birth in 1947? We did some bad shit and we with Christian permission... killed more than 20 million people in the Middle East for Greater Israel since 911. We have fucked hugely in south america almost my whole life. |
| Alpacalips (OP) User ID: 77694187 United States08/03/2020 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Excellent Article About What is Happening Now: 34 Years Ago, a KGB Defector Chillingly Predicted Modern America And if you cant see the marxist lenanist brainwashing all throughout society and education today then you are totally blind. Social fucking justice warriors.. Ideologies of equality. Its all totally against real Americanism and real patriotism and real freedom. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79187554 let me tell you something brainwashed morans.. Human beings are born with different capacities, if they are free, they are not equal. And if they are equal, they are not free."  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75860290 United States08/03/2020 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Excellent Article About What is Happening Now: 34 Years Ago, a KGB Defector Chillingly Predicted Modern America what more evidence do people need to prove to them that Trump is a Russian opp? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69725706 I mean, seriously after 4 years of Trump there is nothing left in America but riots no sports schools are closing small business destroyed You are the dumbest fuckhead ever. This process started under communist USSR. Russia isn't communist. Kill yourself for being so stupid Hey moron - their goals are the same - subvert the west. And instead of being communist, which at least pays lip service to the needs of the many, Russia is an autocratic oligarchy. Way worse. There are no rules, or at least constantly changing, capricious rules and no way to function steadily. Your worth and well being is entirely determined by how you can benefit or pay tribute to the powers that be, with no reciprocal loyalty or sense of duty. That's totally how Trump runs his White House and campaign. Ask Brad Parscale. Or Jeff Sessions. |
| Jake User ID: 77849624 United States08/03/2020 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Excellent Article About What is Happening Now: 34 Years Ago, a KGB Defector Chillingly Predicted Modern America Well democrats kept telling us it was the russians Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78936401 Brazil08/03/2020 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Excellent Article About What is Happening Now: 34 Years Ago, a KGB Defector Chillingly Predicted Modern America 20 million people died in the USSR. How many people were punished after the USSR fell? Were people in a position of power removed with the fall of the USSR? Vladimir Putin was head of the KGB during this period. What is most amazing here is that you are so naive. what is so amazing is that you are naive on Putin.. just because he was in the KGB proves nothing... He cleaned up the dark shits in Russia though.. most anyway... while we still deal with ours.. and he brought back Christianity and he made Russia a Republic.. we lost ours ..to "DEMONocracy. And everyone who supports Demonocracy.. is a traitor to this world... most of course in their utter ignorance. I have sabe Putin saying TWO TIMES that the biggest tragedy in human históry was the fall of the URSS. You are so much naive. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77842746 United States08/03/2020 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Excellent Article About What is Happening Now: 34 Years Ago, a KGB Defector Chillingly Predicted Modern America This is worth the read. Quoting: Alpacalips Bezmenov described this process as "a great brainwashing" which has four basic stages. - The first stage is called "demoralization" which takes from 15 to 20 years to achieve. - According to the former KGB agent, that is the minimum number of years it takes to re-educate one generation of students that is normally exposed to the ideology of its country. For anyone who is still wondering, the Mueller Report makes it clear that Russian operatives played a role in the American elections of 2016 that resulted in the Presidency of Donald Trump. The true impact of that role is certainly open to debate. Since then, Trump has on occasion been quite nice to the Russian President Putin, occasionally seen as capitulating on important matters. Whether you believe Putin really has some kind of compromising material to make Trump do his bidding or if Trump is simply being nice to people who partially helped get him elected, or if you somehow believe, despite ample evidence to the contrary, that all this is much ado about nothing, the fact is President Putin is a very experienced former KGB officer. He has both the know-how and the intelligence to carry out very far-sighted and ingenious operations. We don't know his endgame and neither do we know how much of his KGB training he still employs, but in light of current events, there may be a way for us to get a deeper understanding by studying the words of Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmenov, a former KGB agent who defected to Canada in 1970. In 1984, Bezmenov gave an interview to G. Edward Griffin from which much can be learned today. His most chilling point was that there's a long-term plan put in play by Russia to defeat America through psychological warfare and "demoralization". It's a long game that takes decades to achieve but it may already be bearing fruit. Bezmenov made the point that the work of the KGB mainly does not involve espionage, despite what our popular culture may tell us. Most of the work, 85% of it, was "a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare." What does that mean? Bezmenov explained that the most striking thing about ideological subversion is that it happens in the open as a legitimate process. "You can see it with your own eyes," he said. The American media would be able to see it, if it just focused on it. More at link. [link to bigthink.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] You are so twisted and dishonest to take this legit information about communist takeovers and contort yourself to claim that somehow this supports the Russia, Russia, Russia BS witchhunt which has been used to tarnish President Trump. You are nasty, evil and morally bankrupt. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75860290 United States08/03/2020 10:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Excellent Article About What is Happening Now: 34 Years Ago, a KGB Defector Chillingly Predicted Modern America what more evidence do people need to prove to them that Trump is a Russian opp? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69725706 I mean, seriously after 4 years of Trump there is nothing left in America but riots no sports schools are closing small business destroyed What is the party of the mayor of cities having riots? Democrat. Which governors put the harshest restrictions in place? Democrat. Who did Dr. Fauci support for President in 2016? Hillary Clinton. What party was Hillary Clinton? Democrat. What party does the teachers union support? Democrat. What party do the millionaires that own sports teams and the millionaires who are the players support? Democrat. Seems to me that the Russians are operating on the Dem side, not the Republican side. Honrstly, never saw a more insipid, moronic post. Rep/Dem, lwct/right, liberal/conservative is all just a hegemonic divice used to divide and conquer. As long as people are fighting each other on Facebook or arguing about kneeling or abortion, or race - we aren't watching how they subjugate us at every turn. The elite are all of one mind. Holding onto their assets, getting more assets, more piwer, more influence, more control over us. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79220935 United States08/03/2020 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Excellent Article About What is Happening Now: 34 Years Ago, a KGB Defector Chillingly Predicted Modern America This is worth the read. Quoting: Alpacalips Bezmenov described this process as "a great brainwashing" which has four basic stages. - The first stage is called "demoralization" which takes from 15 to 20 years to achieve. - According to the former KGB agent, that is the minimum number of years it takes to re-educate one generation of students that is normally exposed to the ideology of its country. For anyone who is still wondering, the Mueller Report makes it clear that Russian operatives played a role in the American elections of 2016 that resulted in the Presidency of Donald Trump. The true impact of that role is certainly open to debate. Since then, Trump has on occasion been quite nice to the Russian President Putin, occasionally seen as capitulating on important matters. Whether you believe Putin really has some kind of compromising material to make Trump do his bidding or if Trump is simply being nice to people who partially helped get him elected, or if you somehow believe, despite ample evidence to the contrary, that all this is much ado about nothing, the fact is President Putin is a very experienced former KGB officer. He has both the know-how and the intelligence to carry out very far-sighted and ingenious operations. We don't know his endgame and neither do we know how much of his KGB training he still employs, but in light of current events, there may be a way for us to get a deeper understanding by studying the words of Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmenov, a former KGB agent who defected to Canada in 1970. In 1984, Bezmenov gave an interview to G. Edward Griffin from which much can be learned today. His most chilling point was that there's a long-term plan put in play by Russia to defeat America through psychological warfare and "demoralization". It's a long game that takes decades to achieve but it may already be bearing fruit. Bezmenov made the point that the work of the KGB mainly does not involve espionage, despite what our popular culture may tell us. Most of the work, 85% of it, was "a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare." What does that mean? Bezmenov explained that the most striking thing about ideological subversion is that it happens in the open as a legitimate process. "You can see it with your own eyes," he said. The American media would be able to see it, if it just focused on it. More at link. [link to bigthink.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] It’s called diplomacy. You know how Trump brought peace with North Korea in his first year in office while Obama provoked them and called them the “world’s greatest threat?” You know how Obama had America paying more than its fair share in NATO and the WHO and the Paris Accord and how Trump pulled America out of those so that we can make decisions for ourself and not waste our money? Obama got caught on a hot mic saying to a Russian leader “tell Vladimir that after the election I’ll be more flexible” yet we’re supposed to believe Trump is in cahoots with Russia? Do you think we forgot about the two year investigation (coup attempt) that couldn’t find any evidence of Trump seeking aid from Russia? The threat from Russia is real. Making our own leader a boogeyman doesn’t help anything . |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75860290 United States08/03/2020 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Excellent Article About What is Happening Now: 34 Years Ago, a KGB Defector Chillingly Predicted Modern America This is worth the read. Quoting: Alpacalips Bezmenov described this process as "a great brainwashing" which has four basic stages. - The first stage is called "demoralization" which takes from 15 to 20 years to achieve. - According to the former KGB agent, that is the minimum number of years it takes to re-educate one generation of students that is normally exposed to the ideology of its country. For anyone who is still wondering, the Mueller Report makes it clear that Russian operatives played a role in the American elections of 2016 that resulted in the Presidency of Donald Trump. The true impact of that role is certainly open to debate. Since then, Trump has on occasion been quite nice to the Russian President Putin, occasionally seen as capitulating on important matters. Whether you believe Putin really has some kind of compromising material to make Trump do his bidding or if Trump is simply being nice to people who partially helped get him elected, or if you somehow believe, despite ample evidence to the contrary, that all this is much ado about nothing, the fact is President Putin is a very experienced former KGB officer. He has both the know-how and the intelligence to carry out very far-sighted and ingenious operations. We don't know his endgame and neither do we know how much of his KGB training he still employs, but in light of current events, there may be a way for us to get a deeper understanding by studying the words of Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmenov, a former KGB agent who defected to Canada in 1970. In 1984, Bezmenov gave an interview to G. Edward Griffin from which much can be learned today. His most chilling point was that there's a long-term plan put in play by Russia to defeat America through psychological warfare and "demoralization". It's a long game that takes decades to achieve but it may already be bearing fruit. Bezmenov made the point that the work of the KGB mainly does not involve espionage, despite what our popular culture may tell us. Most of the work, 85% of it, was "a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare." What does that mean? Bezmenov explained that the most striking thing about ideological subversion is that it happens in the open as a legitimate process. "You can see it with your own eyes," he said. The American media would be able to see it, if it just focused on it. More at link. [link to bigthink.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] You are so twisted and dishonest to take this legit information about communist takeovers and contort yourself to claim that somehow this supports the Russia, Russia, Russia BS witchhunt which has been used to tarnish President Trump. You are nasty, evil and morally bankrupt. Ad hominem attack is they last refuge of a failed argument. You are scared. You know this has happened. You now are forced to question the origin of your political beliefs and cultural choices. You have cognitive dissonance . Welcome to 2020 . |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78697342 United States08/03/2020 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Excellent Article About What is Happening Now: 34 Years Ago, a KGB Defector Chillingly Predicted Modern America This is worth the read. Quoting: Alpacalips Bezmenov described this process as "a great brainwashing" which has four basic stages. - The first stage is called "demoralization" which takes from 15 to 20 years to achieve. - According to the former KGB agent, that is the minimum number of years it takes to re-educate one generation of students that is normally exposed to the ideology of its country. For anyone who is still wondering, the Mueller Report makes it clear that Russian operatives played a role in the American elections of 2016 that resulted in the Presidency of Donald Trump. The true impact of that role is certainly open to debate. Since then, Trump has on occasion been quite nice to the Russian President Putin, occasionally seen as capitulating on important matters. Whether you believe Putin really has some kind of compromising material to make Trump do his bidding or if Trump is simply being nice to people who partially helped get him elected, or if you somehow believe, despite ample evidence to the contrary, that all this is much ado about nothing, the fact is President Putin is a very experienced former KGB officer. He has both the know-how and the intelligence to carry out very far-sighted and ingenious operations. We don't know his endgame and neither do we know how much of his KGB training he still employs, but in light of current events, there may be a way for us to get a deeper understanding by studying the words of Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmenov, a former KGB agent who defected to Canada in 1970. In 1984, Bezmenov gave an interview to G. Edward Griffin from which much can be learned today. His most chilling point was that there's a long-term plan put in play by Russia to defeat America through psychological warfare and "demoralization". It's a long game that takes decades to achieve but it may already be bearing fruit. Bezmenov made the point that the work of the KGB mainly does not involve espionage, despite what our popular culture may tell us. Most of the work, 85% of it, was "a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare." What does that mean? Bezmenov explained that the most striking thing about ideological subversion is that it happens in the open as a legitimate process. "You can see it with your own eyes," he said. The American media would be able to see it, if it just focused on it. More at link. [link to bigthink.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Just replace USSR with CCP or Chyna and you got Today. |
| Proud Trump Supporter User ID: 79210768 United States08/03/2020 11:04 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Excellent Article About What is Happening Now: 34 Years Ago, a KGB Defector Chillingly Predicted Modern America Thank you, sir Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79220174 The best video i've seen this year.What's he saying about US is happening also in Romania. Demoralization. Ideological subversion.The russians are the best at this kind of hybrid warfare. 5 stars for the post Same here,and the pandemic has enabled a massive power grab speeding up the timeframe. Exactly. Bloody frightening, isn't it? The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill Daily Updates Thread: ASS IS IN THE WRINGER - Rolling Updates from 11/16/20 to present (Page 316) |
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