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In May, Trump donated 2 million doses of hydroxychloroquine to Brazil. Most have gone untouched and may have to be destroyed.

 
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In May, Trump donated 2 million doses of hydroxychloroquine to Brazil. Most have gone untouched and may have to be destroyed.
The Trump administration's donation of 2 million doses of hydroxychloroquine to Brazil -- one of a handful of countries that still recommend the drug for Covid-19 -- has been mostly untouched since arrival, Brazilian officials have told CNN. Vast quantities of the pills are still sitting in storage in the Brazilian megacity of São Paulo, and one former health minister believes they may eventually have to be destroyed.

The pills' fate in Brazil is appropriate given their medical uselessness against Covid-19: Study after study has shown hydroxychloroquine does not work to treat the coronavirus, and may be harmful. Yet Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro insists that hydroxychloroquine helped him recover from a two-week infection, and Brazil's health ministry advises that doctors prescribe the drug to treat mild cases, even for pregnant women. Meanwhile, the number of coronavirus infections in the country is skyrocketing.

The medication arrived in Brazil on May 31. At the time, the White House said the delivery -- issued when several studies had already shown the drug was ineffective against Covid-19, if not dangerous -- would "be used as a prophylactic to help defend Brazil's nurses, doctors and health care professionals against the virus. It will also be used as a therapeutic to treat Brazilians who become infected." It also said the drug would be part of a study there, and ventilators would also be donated.

The delivery soon went into storage near São Paulo's airport, Renato Strauss, a spokesman for the Health Ministry said. Two months later, the pills are still being held in a logistics center, according to Strauss.

Following scientific guidance, many Brazilian doctors have stopped prescribing hydroxychloroquine despite the government's enthusiasm for it. But in a sign of how pervasive Bolsonaro's backing for the drug has been, a recent survey of doctors across Brazil reported that half of them felt pressured by patients to give the ineffective drug.
A former health minister, Luiz Mandetta, fired by Bolsonaro in April partly over the President's support of hydroxychloroquine, described public demand for hydroxychloroquine as "false hope". He said the President knew from the start that science didn't back his choice of drug, although Bolsonaro has recently insisted it medically aided him.

A spokesman for the US Embassy in Brasilia declined to answer questions and referred further queries to the White House, which did not respond to emails.

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Re: In May, Trump donated 2 million doses of hydroxychloroquine to Brazil. Most have gone untouched and may have to be destroyed.
Looks like Trump was wrong then.
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Re: In May, Trump donated 2 million doses of hydroxychloroquine to Brazil. Most have gone untouched and may have to be destroyed.
Gay propaganda.

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Re: In May, Trump donated 2 million doses of hydroxychloroquine to Brazil. Most have gone untouched and may have to be destroyed.
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CNN is Fake News!
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Re: In May, Trump donated 2 million doses of hydroxychloroquine to Brazil. Most have gone untouched and may have to be destroyed.
Lol. You can’t even give that shit away antsy more.

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Re: In May, Trump donated 2 million doses of hydroxychloroquine to Brazil. Most have gone untouched and may have to be destroyed.
Brazil is fairly targeted for overpopulation.

notice all underpopulated areas wothout an economy are basically free from covid.
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Re: In May, Trump donated 2 million doses of hydroxychloroquine to Brazil. Most have gone untouched and may have to be destroyed.
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CNN is Fake News!
 Quoting: DeplorableOldMan


Ok, the “fake news” excuse again.

From May:

U.S. Sends 2 Million Doses of Hydroxychloroquine to Brazil

THE UNITED STATES announced that it has sent 2 million doses of the anti-malaria drug touted as a coronavirus treatment by President Donald Trump to Brazil.

In a joint statement Sunday, the U.S. and Brazil said the hydroxychloroquine will be used as a prophylactic to defend health care workers in Brazil against the virus, as well as a treatment to help Brazilians who become infected.

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What a waste of money.
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gtfo5

CNN is Fake News!
 Quoting: DeplorableOldMan


Ok, the “fake news” excuse again.

From May:

U.S. Sends 2 Million Doses of Hydroxychloroquine to Brazil

THE UNITED STATES announced that it has sent 2 million doses of the anti-malaria drug touted as a coronavirus treatment by President Donald Trump to Brazil.

In a joint statement Sunday, the U.S. and Brazil said the hydroxychloroquine will be used as a prophylactic to defend health care workers in Brazil against the virus, as well as a treatment to help Brazilians who become infected.

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What a waste of money.
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Wonder what Trump’s cut was?

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gtfo5

CNN is Fake News!
 Quoting: DeplorableOldMan


Ok, the “fake news” excuse again.

From May:

U.S. Sends 2 Million Doses of Hydroxychloroquine to Brazil

THE UNITED STATES announced that it has sent 2 million doses of the anti-malaria drug touted as a coronavirus treatment by President Donald Trump to Brazil.

In a joint statement Sunday, the U.S. and Brazil said the hydroxychloroquine will be used as a prophylactic to defend health care workers in Brazil against the virus, as well as a treatment to help Brazilians who become infected.

[link to www.usnews.com (secure)]

What a waste of money.
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How much did WE pay for this and why the hell is Trump sending it to Brazil?
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Re: In May, Trump donated 2 million doses of hydroxychloroquine to Brazil. Most have gone untouched and may have to be destroyed.
Brazil is fairly targeted for overpopulation.

notice all underpopulated areas wothout an economy are basically free from covid.
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The US and Brazil must be big populations for vaccines
The anti HCQ lobby is heaviest in populous countries that are markets for big pharma

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CNN is the Biggest Name in FAKE NEWS

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Re: In May, Trump donated 2 million doses of hydroxychloroquine to Brazil. Most have gone untouched and may have to be destroyed.
That is because they don't work at all for COVID 19.
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Re: In May, Trump donated 2 million doses of hydroxychloroquine to Brazil. Most have gone untouched and may have to be destroyed.
A cnn article really. Might as well post the editorial from nmbla weekly.
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Re: In May, Trump donated 2 million doses of hydroxychloroquine to Brazil. Most have gone untouched and may have to be destroyed.
That is because they don't work at all for COVID 19.
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It damn sure wouldn’t be sitting in warehouses if it was a game changing miracle drug.
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Re: In May, Trump donated 2 million doses of hydroxychloroquine to Brazil. Most have gone untouched and may have to be destroyed.
That is because they don't work at all for COVID 19.
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So your pretending to be a chemistry and or pathophisilogy major today.
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Re: In May, Trump donated 2 million doses of hydroxychloroquine to Brazil. Most have gone untouched and may have to be destroyed.
A cnn article really. Might as well post the editorial from nmbla weekly.
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Ok, so your “fake news” slogan as the excuse.

Do this is all documented. The shipment was publicly announced by the White House. Which part do you maintain is “fake news” because CNN ran the story?
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Re: In May, Trump donated 2 million doses of hydroxychloroquine to Brazil. Most have gone untouched and may have to be destroyed.
The Trump crime syndicate stood to reap huge profits pimping H, too bad Fauchi pissed in their oatmeal.
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Re: In May, Trump donated 2 million doses of hydroxychloroquine to Brazil. Most have gone untouched and may have to be destroyed.
That is because they don't work at all for COVID 19.
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So your pretending to be a chemistry and or pathophisilogy major today.
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Are you a “pathophisilogy” major? Can you even read?
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Re: In May, Trump donated 2 million doses of hydroxychloroquine to Brazil. Most have gone untouched and may have to be destroyed.
That is because they don't work at all for COVID 19.
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It damn sure wouldn’t be sitting in warehouses if it was a game changing miracle drug.
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Thing is, it actually is a miracle drug. It has saved millions from malaria over the last 70 years.
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Re: In May, Trump donated 2 million doses of hydroxychloroquine to Brazil. Most have gone untouched and may have to be destroyed.
Luiz Mandetta, a former Brazilian health minister who was fired for contradicting President Jair Bolsonaro on HCQ, said that the leader was knowingly pushing an ineffective treatment to create a “false hope” that would help get the economy back on track.

“It’s just false hope. Poor people have a hard time getting the health system to work and they say, ‘at least I have this’. It’s more like a placebo, something they can take and be grateful to [Bolsonaro],” he said. “It’s a political choice, nothing about health. He uses the drug to say to people they can go back to work.”

Mandetta predicted that the surplus will “probably” sit in storage for a few years and then be destroyed.

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That is because they don't work at all for COVID 19.
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It damn sure wouldn’t be sitting in warehouses if it was a game changing miracle drug.
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Thing is, it actually is a miracle drug. It has saved millions from malaria over the last 70 years.
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Maybe not a game changing miracle drug, but it has been very effective in preventing and treating malaria in the past, although most malaria has now developed resistance to it.

But it’s useless as a game changer again COVID-19.
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Re: In May, Trump donated 2 million doses of hydroxychloroquine to Brazil. Most have gone untouched and may have to be destroyed.
That is because they don't work at all for COVID 19.
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says the doctor or pharmacist

quinine and/or quercetin with zinc.. work just fine over the counter..

this guy likes people dying...

even fauci said it works great in 2005 for different coronaviruses
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That is because they don't work at all for COVID 19.
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says the doctor or pharmacist

quinine and/or quercetin with zinc.. work just fine over the counter..

this guy likes people dying...

even fauci said it works great in 2005 for different coronaviruses
 Quoting: Grove Street


Show us a placebo controlled randomized clinical trial that demonstrates the efficacy of that.

Otherwise, you're just spewing pseudoscience.
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Looks like Trump was wrong then.
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"There are forces that confused the president, that vilified and fear-mongered hydroxychloroquine usage. And the reason why is they have in the pipeline remdesivir and vaccines that they want to push through. So, hydroxychloroquine stood in the way of trillions of dollars. So there are 150,000 dead Americans and many more people around the world simply are dead, because the world listen to the FDA, which I don’t recommend by the way, are dead simply because of people like Dr. Fauci and the forces behind him… I think the president’s instincts are greater than all of his advisors combined and I beg the president to please just follow your instincts."
Dr. Zelenko

Look at this graph!
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51 Global Studies Find HCQ Effective in Treating COVID-19 — 16 Find HCQ NOT Effective — But 10 of Those Are Late Treatment Studies!

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You quote CNN? how gay
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Re: In May, Trump donated 2 million doses of hydroxychloroquine to Brazil. Most have gone untouched and may have to be destroyed.
wow, that was the biggest pile of conjecture i have read from cnn.

they have completely interwoven the writers thoughts with the actual story.

even going so far as providing the writers thoughts as an actual opinion of brazil.

this is journalism at its worst.

absolutely shameful.

the writer should be sacked.
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Re: In May, Trump donated 2 million doses of hydroxychloroquine to Brazil. Most have gone untouched and may have to be destroyed.
If Biden and the Democrats are so fantastic, why the rabid need to dump on Trump, shills? The desperation is telling.

If you want the vaccine, get the vaccine. Mind you, supposedly there still hasn't been a successful vaccine for SARS or MERS, nor do they currently know if antibodies against COVID last long. But you should be able to do with your body as you want.

If people would rather try OTC or well-tested, already available drugs instead, they should be able to. My understanding is that hydroxychloroquine needs to be taken early and with at least zinc, and there are studies and doctors who have vouched for its efficacy. If Brazil didn't want to use it, that's their choice. But people who get drug shipments they don't want should try to send them where they are needed/wanted, instead of just stashing them somewhere and complaining. It reminds me of the post-hurricane aid sent to Puerto Rico that then just sat and was wasted instead of being redistributed somewhere else.
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Looks like Trump was wrong then.
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boss

"There are forces that confused the president, that vilified and fear-mongered hydroxychloroquine usage. And the reason why is they have in the pipeline remdesivir and vaccines that they want to push through. So, hydroxychloroquine stood in the way of trillions of dollars. So there are 150,000 dead Americans and many more people around the world simply are dead, because the world listen to the FDA, which I don’t recommend by the way, are dead simply because of people like Dr. Fauci and the forces behind him… I think the president’s instincts are greater than all of his advisors combined and I beg the president to please just follow your instincts."
Dr. Zelenko

Look at this graph!
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51 Global Studies Find HCQ Effective in Treating COVID-19 — 16 Find HCQ NOT Effective — But 10 of Those Are Late Treatment Studies!

captain
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Re: In May, Trump donated 2 million doses of hydroxychloroquine to Brazil. Most have gone untouched and may have to be destroyed.
The Trump administration's donation of 2 million doses of hydroxychloroquine to Brazil -- one of a handful of countries that still recommend the drug for Covid-19 -- has been mostly untouched since arrival, Brazilian officials have told CNN. Vast quantities of the pills are still sitting in storage in the Brazilian megacity of São Paulo, and one former health minister believes they may eventually have to be destroyed.

The pills' fate in Brazil is appropriate given their medical uselessness against Covid-19: Study after study has shown hydroxychloroquine does not work to treat the coronavirus, and may be harmful. Yet Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro insists that hydroxychloroquine helped him recover from a two-week infection, and Brazil's health ministry advises that doctors prescribe the drug to treat mild cases, even for pregnant women. Meanwhile, the number of coronavirus infections in the country is skyrocketing.

The medication arrived in Brazil on May 31. At the time, the White House said the delivery -- issued when several studies had already shown the drug was ineffective against Covid-19, if not dangerous -- would "be used as a prophylactic to help defend Brazil's nurses, doctors and health care professionals against the virus. It will also be used as a therapeutic to treat Brazilians who become infected." It also said the drug would be part of a study there, and ventilators would also be donated.

The delivery soon went into storage near São Paulo's airport, Renato Strauss, a spokesman for the Health Ministry said. Two months later, the pills are still being held in a logistics center, according to Strauss.

Following scientific guidance, many Brazilian doctors have stopped prescribing hydroxychloroquine despite the government's enthusiasm for it. But in a sign of how pervasive Bolsonaro's backing for the drug has been, a recent survey of doctors across Brazil reported that half of them felt pressured by patients to give the ineffective drug.
A former health minister, Luiz Mandetta, fired by Bolsonaro in April partly over the President's support of hydroxychloroquine, described public demand for hydroxychloroquine as "false hope". He said the President knew from the start that science didn't back his choice of drug, although Bolsonaro has recently insisted it medically aided him.

A spokesman for the US Embassy in Brasilia declined to answer questions and referred further queries to the White House, which did not respond to emails.

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Not true they're using it for out patient care in early stages of COVID. Look for a zoom video of Brazilian doctors across the country talking about a drug cocktail including HCQ that helped decrease their hospital occupancy by 80%. People should know by now CNN doesn't do any investigative reporting themselves any more.
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Re: In May, Trump donated 2 million doses of hydroxychloroquine to Brazil. Most have gone untouched and may have to be destroyed.
That is because they don't work at all for COVID 19.
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It damn sure wouldn’t be sitting in warehouses if it was a game changing miracle drug.
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Thing is, it actually is a miracle drug. It has saved millions from malaria over the last 70 years.
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Maybe not a game changing miracle drug, but it has been very effective in preventing and treating malaria in the past, although most malaria has now developed resistance to it.

But it’s useless as a game changer again COVID-19.
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OK Dr. Cuomo

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Re: In May, Trump donated 2 million doses of hydroxychloroquine to Brazil. Most have gone untouched and may have to be destroyed.
2 million doses... thats like 1 bottle for every clinic, pharmacy, hospital in Brazil, which is also a country with malaria outbreaks

Not a rocket scientist here but its obvious





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