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COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// Case surge in UAE despite high number of vaxed (pg. 269)

 
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Schools back mass vaccinations for children

Education leaders would be willing to help facilitate a vaccine roll-out at schools around the country, according to Geoff Barton, general secretary of the Association of School and College Leaders (ASCL), the largest union for secondary school heads.

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This is just an epicly bad fucking idea.
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Take a hint, Japan. Please....

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That’s like DeSantis acknowledging his 5.8% positivity rate but woooohoooo it’s “over” in Florida.

Normalcy bias.
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Schools back mass vaccinations for children

Education leaders would be willing to help facilitate a vaccine roll-out at schools around the country, according to Geoff Barton, general secretary of the Association of School and College Leaders (ASCL), the largest union for secondary school heads.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk (secure)]
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This is just an epicly bad fucking idea.
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In the article it says they hope peer pressure will work to get more kids vaccinated. I have an image in my mind that parents of vaccinated kids are going to demand the vaccinateds be segregated from the non-vaccinateds within the school. This could really piss off the parents who don't want their kid to take the jab.

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NHS faces exodus of doctors after Covid pandemic, survey finds

Thousands of UK doctors are planning to quit the NHS after the Covid pandemic because they are exhausted by their workloads and worried about their mental health, a survey has revealed.

Almost one in three may retire early while a quarter are considering taking a career break and a fifth are weighing up quitting the health service to do something else.

Long hours, high demand for care, the impact of the pandemic and unpleasant working environments are taking their toll on medics, the British Medical Association findings show.

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would rather have it & not need it then need it & not have it
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The idea of having Covid at that altitude hiding

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Remember - this thing is a coronavirus. The vaccines do not give sterilizing immunity which means if you're hoping for herd immunity then you're most likely barking up the wrong tree. I don't say this to be a fearmonger, but to serve a warning for people to prepare for what's likely to come.

This guy, Leonardi, sums it up.










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The novel coronavirus’ spike protein plays additional key role in illness. Salk researchers and collaborators show how the protein damages cells, confirming COVID-19 as a primarily vascular disease.

LA JOLLA—Scientists have known for a while that SARS-CoV-2’s distinctive “spike” proteins help the virus infect its host by latching on to healthy cells. Now, a major new study shows that they also play a key role in the disease itself.

The paper, published on April 30, 2021, in Circulation Research, also shows conclusively that COVID-19 is a vascular disease, demonstrating exactly how the SARS-CoV-2 virus damages and attacks the vascular system on a cellular level. The findings help explain COVID-19’s wide variety of seemingly unconnected complications, and could open the door for new research into more effective therapies.

“A lot of people think of it as a respiratory disease, but it’s really a vascular disease,” says Assistant Research Professor Uri Manor, who is co-senior author of the study. “That could explain why some people have strokes, and why some people have issues in other parts of the body. The commonality between them is that they all have vascular underpinnings.”

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"attacks the vascular system on a cellular level." Holy crap, that's every organ in the body. You really must do everything you can to not catch this monster!
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I feel like a canary in the coal mine. Just over four months since my Covid positive test. Fuck.
 Quoting: lightning1977

This may be what all this "long covid" is about. The virus is circulating in the vascular, or blood circulatory, system until it finds a vulnerable organ/organs?
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Proper answer is "I don't know", but in a attempt not to be boring, I'll go with "I don't think so". My understanding of the underlying process is shaky at best but it seems to me the actual "infection" stage, where the virus does damage is mostly limited to two-three weeks. There are extreme's where it's much longer and for most it's shorter but for a ball park figure that seems about right.

The problem is given that the virus can effect (damage) blood vessels, it can effect every part of the body. I'm still iffy on the viability of replication outside some of the sweet spots like the lungs etc. Even though the window for actual damage from the virus would then be short the cascading effects can linger and present with delay.

That might be all wrong though, if it even makes sense.
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Great. Can we get through this one first?
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Okay.... it’s taking longer than I thought. Eek. This sucks.

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Remember - this thing is a coronavirus. The vaccines do not give sterilizing immunity which means if you're hoping for herd immunity then you're most likely barking up the wrong tree. I don't say this to be a fearmonger, but to serve a warning for people to prepare for what's likely to come.

This guy, Leonardi, sums it up.









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What hes saying is that everybody that got a vaccine will die quicker and have a shorter life span and/or will get a very bad time if reinfected with wild type strain or other variant.

Basically like all the other vaccines in the past you have a chance of going full autoimmune, the people that have had cardiac arrest or other debilitating symptoms after a shot had good immune systems.

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Remember - this thing is a coronavirus. The vaccines do not give sterilizing immunity which means if you're hoping for herd immunity then you're most likely barking up the wrong tree. I don't say this to be a fearmonger, but to serve a warning for people to prepare for what's likely to come.

This guy, Leonardi, sums it up.









 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


What hes saying is that everybody that got a vaccine will die quicker and have a shorter life span and/or will get a very bad time if reinfected with wild type strain or other variant.

Basically like all the other vaccines in the past you have a chance of going full autoimmune, the people that have had cardiac arrest or other debilitating symptoms after a shot had good immune systems.
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There is an increase in pacemakers being ordered. And journalism is dead.

Three in my circles about a month after the “vaccine”.
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Great. Can we get through this one first?
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Hah, I thought the same when I saw that. Feels like complacency with the current one is spreading in gov.

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Schools back mass vaccinations for children

Education leaders would be willing to help facilitate a vaccine roll-out at schools around the country, according to Geoff Barton, general secretary of the Association of School and College Leaders (ASCL), the largest union for secondary school heads.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk (secure)]
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This is just an epicly bad fucking idea.
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Beyond stupid. Feel like home schooling!
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Schools back mass vaccinations for children

Education leaders would be willing to help facilitate a vaccine roll-out at schools around the country, according to Geoff Barton, general secretary of the Association of School and College Leaders (ASCL), the largest union for secondary school heads.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk (secure)]
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This is just an epicly bad fucking idea.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Beyond stupid. Feel like home schooling!
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Homeschooling can be rewarding. But there will be pull your hair out days.

But I will suffer the rough days for my child’s protection from bad science.
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Remember - this thing is a coronavirus. The vaccines do not give sterilizing immunity which means if you're hoping for herd immunity then you're most likely barking up the wrong tree. I don't say this to be a fearmonger, but to serve a warning for people to prepare for what's likely to come.

This guy, Leonardi, sums it up.









 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


What hes saying is that everybody that got a vaccine will die quicker and have a shorter life span and/or will get a very bad time if reinfected with wild type strain or other variant.

Basically like all the other vaccines in the past you have a chance of going full autoimmune, the people that have had cardiac arrest or other debilitating symptoms after a shot had good immune systems.
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Not sure. He didn't mention the vaccine but the virus, so maybe not. It doesn't matter though because the way these vaccines work they don't bring a halt to infection/re-infection for those who take them. All they will do is just make the slow burn a bit slower.

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Hes responding to a woman on twitter asking about the vaccine.
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7 times as many bodies

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India numbers looking much better today.



Except..



320,000 fewer tests carried out than the day before

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NHS faces exodus of doctors after Covid pandemic, survey finds

Thousands of UK doctors are planning to quit the NHS after the Covid pandemic because they are exhausted by their workloads and worried about their mental health, a survey has revealed.

Almost one in three may retire early while a quarter are considering taking a career break and a fifth are weighing up quitting the health service to do something else.

Long hours, high demand for care, the impact of the pandemic and unpleasant working environments are taking their toll on medics, the British Medical Association findings show.

[link to www.theguardian.com (secure)]
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India's docs will be joining them I suspect


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Usa banning flights from india except for usa citizens and green card holders starting tuesday at 12:01 am, biden finally doing something good. We might have a chance to prevent the indian variant spread here now in big numbers.
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Is this for direct flights only or are they going to stop people from connecting flights as well?
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Dont know, if they dont ban recent india travel history then its useless.
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LOL...some schmuck sent me a nastygram saying "What a really dumb question to ask"...Most likely George (under his Demon Girl account) or one of his minions...LOL...fuggem...
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India numbers looking much better today.



Except..



320,000 fewer tests carried out than the day before
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Mayday holiday backlog hasn't been processed yet I suspect.

The positivity rate for India as a whole is up anyway. A few days ago it was around 20%. Today it is 23%.

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...

"attacks the vascular system on a cellular level." Holy crap, that's every organ in the body. You really must do everything you can to not catch this monster!
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I feel like a canary in the coal mine. Just over four months since my Covid positive test. Fuck.
 Quoting: lightning1977

This may be what all this "long covid" is about. The virus is circulating in the vascular, or blood circulatory, system until it finds a vulnerable organ/organs?
 Quoting: Lago


Proper answer is "I don't know", but in a attempt not to be boring, I'll go with "I don't think so". My understanding of the underlying process is shaky at best but it seems to me the actual "infection" stage, where the virus does damage is mostly limited to two-three weeks. There are extreme's where it's much longer and for most it's shorter but for a ball park figure that seems about right.

The problem is given that the virus can effect (damage) blood vessels, it can effect every part of the body. I'm still iffy on the viability of replication outside some of the sweet spots like the lungs etc. Even though the window for actual damage from the virus would then be short the cascading effects can linger and present with delay.

That might be all wrong though, if it even makes sense.
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Thank you for the the explanation
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Good timing. verydamned

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Human organ chips enable rapid drug repurposing for COVID-19... [link to news.harvard.edu (secure)] Amodiaquine works! From the main thread:


"Kind of cool how it works.

The human Airway Chip that the Wyss team developed for these studies is a microfluidic device about the size of a USB memory stick that contains two parallel channels separated by a porous membrane. Human lung airway cells are grown in one channel that is perfused with air, while human blood vessel cells are grown in the other channel, which is perfused with liquid culture medium to mimic blood flow. Cells grown in this device naturally differentiate into multiple airway-specific cell types in proportions that are similar to those in the human airway, and develop traits observed in living lungs such as cilia and the ability to produce and move mucus. Airway Chip cells also have higher levels of angiotensin-converting enzyme-2 (ACE2) receptor protein, which plays a central role in lung physiology and is used by SARS-CoV-2 to infect cells."

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