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COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)

 
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....from an infection last year....
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Yeah. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Like you said, this clusterfuck aint going away any time soon, vaccines or no vaccines. pray

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I agree the Indian variant is probably more transmissible than the UK one, but there is concern from scientists there is going to be a spike in cases during the summer....

I'm always one of the first to raise alarm when I see something troubling with the virus. However I just don't see the Indian variant or other variants taking off in UK until late August/early September... Maybe I'm naive but I can't help think the seasonality factor is not being given due consideration from the people who do the models/predictions.


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I agree the Indian variant is probably more transmissible than the UK one, but there is concern from scientists there is going to be a spike in cases during the summer....

I'm always one of the first to raise alarm when I see something troubling with the virus. However I just don't see the Indian variant or other variants taking off in UK until late August/early September... Maybe I'm naive but I can't help think the seasonality factor is not being given due consideration from the people who do the models/predictions.



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Seasonal is a smidge factor.... more for rural. But heavy congested areas... or where there are houses on top of each other, in all forms....the Indian variants are gonna thrive.

The concern that I have for the US is unvaccinated kids and vaccinated adults mingling. It’s going to rid us of the seasonal debate with new don’t give a fuck about weather variants.
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I'm extremely skeptical and doubtful that Ivermectin has any benefit, but these pro-Ivermectin news items keep appearing recently!



Use of Ivermectin reduces the risk of hospitalization due to Covid by up to 76%

This was announced by the government of Mexico City, who released the results of the experimental analysis applied to more than 220 thousand people


[link to www.elsoldemexico.com.mx (secure)]
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....from an infection last year....
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Yeah. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Like you said, this clusterfuck aint going away any time soon, vaccines or no vaccines. :pray:
 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


Here is what I think. The lockdowns are part of a coverup aimed at preventing people from learning that SARS-CoV-2 was developed in a lab, got loose (or was deliberately released) and is basically unstoppable.

The vaccines are a sideshow aimed at delaying the day of reckoning when it will be crystal clear to all and sundry what has actually happened.

The variants will continue to multiply and grow more lethal until they literally run out of people to infect, which means everyone on the planet is eventualiy going to die from the virus. Sure, some might survive, but then they will be infected with a new variant and die.

In other words, we’re not going to be able to outrun the virus with more vaccines. The reason why is simple. Gain of function virii are engineered to defeat any and all possible counter-measures. Virii don’t know that they can’t just keep multiplying until they run out of hosts to infect if they want to survive, they just keep on trucking.

Our stupidity as a species has finally become our undoing.
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I'm extremely skeptical and doubtful that Ivermectin has any benefit, but these pro-Ivermectin news items keep appearing recently!



Use of Ivermectin reduces the risk of hospitalization due to Covid by up to 76%

This was announced by the government of Mexico City, who released the results of the experimental analysis applied to more than 220 thousand people


[link to www.elsoldemexico.com.mx (secure)]
 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


My theory is the strong placebo effect plus blocking certain virus causes. But I don’t see it working forever.
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Soon Covid will be feared just as equal to the Influenza in the past

Life is moving forward with or without Covid walking pneumonia
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Pfizer struggling with India variant?

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Soon Covid will be feared just as equal to the Influenza in the past

Life is moving forward with or without Covid walking pneumonia
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You let us know alll about that.

All it takes is one of the brick walls to fuck up “forward”.

My unfortunate theory is a mix between the anger plus the dementia walls closing in soon.
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He went to the bunkers. And I don’t blame him.
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Quite a long video with Geert Vanden Bossche but it's definitely worth watching.

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Fortin out as Canada's vaccine campaign lead amid military probe into sexual misconduct claim, sources say.... [link to www.cbc.ca (secure)]
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....from an infection last year....
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Yeah. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Like you said, this clusterfuck aint going away any time soon, vaccines or no vaccines. pray
 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


Here is what I think. The lockdowns are part of a coverup aimed at preventing people from learning that SARS-CoV-2 was developed in a lab, got loose (or was deliberately released) and is basically unstoppable.

The vaccines are a sideshow aimed at delaying the day of reckoning when it will be crystal clear to all and sundry what has actually happened.

The variants will continue to multiply and grow more lethal until they literally run out of people to infect, which means everyone on the planet is eventualiy going to die from the virus. Sure, some might survive, but then they will be infected with a new variant and die.

In other words, we’re not going to be able to outrun the virus with more vaccines. The reason why is simple. Gain of function virii are engineered to defeat any and all possible counter-measures. Virii don’t know that they can’t just keep multiplying until they run out of hosts to infect if they want to survive, they just keep on trucking.

Our stupidity as a species has finally become our undoing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78629642


I don't disagree with the possibility that the variants are becoming more lethal/deadly. There's been evidence to suggest that is infact what's happening. But the what needs people's attention foremost is the medium-term.

Will be the healthcare infrastructure be able to cope with not only the future surges but those who have survived infection or reinfection but then go on to develop the heart problems, cognitive issues, diabetes etc... either instantly or delayed onset and the effects this could have on the economy, functioning of society. None of this is conspriracy talk either - it's already been happening and legit medical organizations have warned it's probably going to get a lot worse.

Basically, possiblity of 'the collapse' itself should be of more concern right now rather than if the virus is going to end up killing everyone.

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The shitshow must go on.

Thing with Japan is they have many old folks living there. Probably the world's largest proportion of old folks in a population. There's a lot of concern that if the outbreak gets worse then the deaths could be insanely high. And with the increased movement that comes with staging an Olympics the risk increases.

The Jap Government needs to decide if they want that to be their legacy rather than the Olympics itself. Polls say most Japs want the games called off...
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Pandemic fatigue as much as of an issues as anything else!

No panic in the *checks notes* not very Northern town of Bedford where those of Indian descent make up 1% of the population.

[link to www.jsna.centralbedfordshire.gov.uk (secure)]


 Quoting: lightning1977


dynamite

On 1 May reports indicate it had registered 0-2 Covid cases per 100,000 people. A week later, this had risen to 157, effectively taking this area of the town back to levels last registered in November, at the start of the second lockdown.


Unfortunately there has been a similar pattern throughout this pandemic. Beginning of the pandemic the virus was taken much more seriously and the deaths/cases were lower. Then as the pandemic progressed people became fatigued which coincided with more deaths and cases. I'm not saying the same thing will happen again for UK, but I can see why there might be reason for concern.



Also, today's UK cases are up a couple hundred on last Sunday's. Cases and deaths up 9-10% in the past week.

[link to coronavirus.data.gov.uk (secure)]

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....from an infection last year....
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Yeah. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Like you said, this clusterfuck aint going away any time soon, vaccines or no vaccines. :pray:
 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


Here is what I think. The lockdowns are part of a coverup aimed at preventing people from learning that SARS-CoV-2 was developed in a lab, got loose (or was deliberately released) and is basically unstoppable.

The vaccines are a sideshow aimed at delaying the day of reckoning when it will be crystal clear to all and sundry what has actually happened.

The variants will continue to multiply and grow more lethal until they literally run out of people to infect, which means everyone on the planet is eventualiy going to die from the virus. Sure, some might survive, but then they will be infected with a new variant and die.

In other words, we’re not going to be able to outrun the virus with more vaccines. The reason why is simple. Gain of function virii are engineered to defeat any and all possible counter-measures. Virii don’t know that they can’t just keep multiplying until they run out of hosts to infect if they want to survive, they just keep on trucking.

Our stupidity as a species has finally become our undoing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78629642


I don't disagree with the possibility that the variants are becoming more lethal/deadly. There's been evidence to suggest that is infact what's happening. But the what needs people's attention foremost is the medium-term.

Will be the healthcare infrastructure be able to cope with not only the future surges but those who have survived infection or reinfection but then go on to develop the heart problems, cognitive issues, diabetes etc... either instantly or delayed onset and the effects this could have on the economy, functioning of society. None of this is conspriracy talk either - it's already been happening and legit medical organizations have warned it's probably going to get a lot worse.

Basically, possiblity of 'the collapse' itself should be of more concern right now rather than if the virus is going to end up killing everyone.

burnit
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Berlusconi is hospitalized even before the covid, he does it every time he has to be tried.
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What could India need? I know!! A cyclone into the mix!


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Severe cyclone heading toward southern India; 6 dead.... [link to apnews.com (secure)]
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Another variant to keep an eye on...B.1.620



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Good spot. The dearth of decent info from Africa bothers me. Anything could be coming in and out of the continent which could destroy any of the mitigation’s we have in place
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India press put together a revised description of symptoms....

[link to timesofindia.indiatimes.com (secure)]
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just to tell u how F'ed the economy is

CP says 35% of all dollars were printed in the last year.
that is a huge amount of $$ and we had less work getting done then too.
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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warning from CANADA-"if we get their variant ,look out."
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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Pretty cool Jazz, hopefully not prophetic.
Working on it
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warning from CANADA-"if we get their variant ,look out."
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ONTARIO PROVINCE blaming upper gov for not closing the border. sounds like what GLP has said from day 1.
note- Ontario leaders said these words" vaccine resisitant variant..."


he also wants testing of ppl moving between Provinces.

note-sounds like he is blaming the US for these "vaccine restistant variants". as in MICH maybe?

note 2- CAN's starting to act like AMERICANS.


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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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India press put together a revised description of symptoms....

[link to timesofindia.indiatimes.com (secure)]
 Quoting: CleverCreator


umm that list ain't good. did the virus enhance bacterial disease and illnesses too? 2020 again- TWISTED
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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India press put together a revised description of symptoms....

[link to timesofindia.indiatimes.com (secure)]
 Quoting: CleverCreator


umm that list ain't good. did the virus enhance bacterial disease and illnesses too? 2020 again- TWISTED
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It’s the T cell issues...... it’s going to bite hard.
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