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COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)

 
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Countries should avoid giving the AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine to people over 60 in addition to younger age groups, the head of the EU drug regulator's COVID-19 task force was quoted on Sunday as saying


In other words, don't give the Astra vaccine to anyone!


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New wave in Bangladesh. I guess that means India's next wave isn't far off either?

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Long Covid, MIS-C and heart dysfunction in kids. Essential reading for parents.

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Hate. This. Virus.
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New wave in Bangladesh. I guess that means India's next wave isn't far off either?


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The waves won’t be distinguishable at some point.
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Around the circle we continue to go.
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Boris not in favor of the lab leak theory


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Hate. This. Virus.
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Hard to shrug off a higher mortality rate in those fully vaccinated isnt it?


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Interesting.. page 15:
Cases, Deaths FROM INDIAN/DELTA VARIANT by vaccination status.

Un-Vax: 19573 Cases, 23 Deaths --(251 Hosp Adm)
OneVax: 5393 Cases, 7 Deaths --(66 Hosp Adm.)
TwoVax: 1785 Cases, 12 Deaths --(42 Hosp Adm)

Statisticaly limited samples BUT
1) The Hospital admission rate to cases goes UP with more vaccine doses...
(1.3% noVax, 1.2% OneVax, 2.3% TwoVax)
and:

2) Hospital admission rate to deaths (removes the case bias prior) ALSO GOES UP with increased vaccine doses...
(9.1% NoVax, 10.6% OneVax, 29% TwoVax)

3) Death rate to cases also appears to increase with more vaccinations (0.1% NoVax, 0.1% OneVax 0.6% TwoVax)
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Cases in 2 dose versus zero doses go down. And the one thing not accounted for in any of these data is behavior and attitude which has a huge role to play here.
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Sorry, man, I don't think you understand the basis of understanding here.

Cases absolute number is kinda irrelevant for several reasons.

What matters is deaths-to-cases ratio, hospitalisations-to-cases ratio... the ratio removes the some of the biases inherent in the sampling.


BUT the ratio does not remove the age-structure of the people in the study. That is much more relevant. And we will never know.
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Cases in themselves absolutely matter. The case number is a point in time, not and end story, with an unknown percentage likely to end up in hospital and possibly die. Or, end up with long haul.
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WHO giving an early warning for potential outbreak of the black fungus mucormycosis in Central and South America!!



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this is very concerning. i do hope u ppl that took the shot are on your guard. they are telling us the virus or vacine is making germs,in this case fungus,stronger. what else is in the box they are not mentioning? bacteria,other viruses, parasites,etc. ?

unless we have evidence to show, we do not know yet if the virus caused it or vaccine. nor do we know who will get sick from the super germs.

not to scare ya's but "anywhere at any time" so could b your town tomorrow, just like the next variant. use wisely
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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Researchers in Brazil have discovered a higher than expected incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection among the cats and dogs of people with COVID-19.

A small study that repeatedly tested the pets of people with COVID-19 suggests that 31% of dogs and 40% of cats acquired a SARS-CoV-2 infection.


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translation- the govern kick the can down the road has an alarm clock attatched. that clock is set at 5 yrs and counting down.

Americans are strange. u can do what u want to uncle fred,but do not mess with rover or dixie kitty. ppl get very upset. tick tok less than 5yrs to see ppl flip the F out.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)
Nasal spray vaccine to be distributed by September?


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how else did u think TPTB can give the potion to the animals?
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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WHO giving an early warning for potential outbreak of the black fungus mucormycosis in Central and South America!!



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this is very concerning. i do hope u ppl that took the shot are on your guard. they are telling us the virus or vacine is making germs,in this case fungus,stronger. what else is in the box they are not mentioning? bacteria,other viruses, parasites,etc. ?

unless we have evidence to show, we do not know yet if the virus caused it or vaccine. nor do we know who will get sick from the super germs.

not to scare ya's but "anywhere at any time" so could b your town tomorrow, just like the next variant. use wisely
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There is no evidence yet you open your post blaming vaccines. Dude...
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Countries should avoid giving the AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine to people over 60 in addition to younger age groups, the head of the EU drug regulator's COVID-19 task force was quoted on Sunday as saying


In other words, don't give the Astra vaccine to anyone!



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can i b a CTer? maybe the AZ is the main serium test. TPTB don't want to save the young breeders. so test the serium that will stop the virus on the older population.

what happens to us if TPTB do find the magic potion? we know they won't share it. and they don't want or need us either.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)
Researchers in Brazil have discovered a higher than expected incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection among the cats and dogs of people with COVID-19.

A small study that repeatedly tested the pets of people with COVID-19 suggests that 31% of dogs and 40% of cats acquired a SARS-CoV-2 infection.


[link to www.medicalnewstoday.com (secure)]
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translation- the govern kick the can down the road has an alarm clock attatched. that clock is set at 5 yrs and counting down.

Americans are strange. u can do what u want to uncle fred,but do not mess with rover or dixie kitty. ppl get very upset. tick tok less than 5yrs to see ppl flip the F out.
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What do Americans have to do with this research in Brazil? If you will recall, Chinese threw their pets out of windows and killed their animals in a panic.
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WHO giving an early warning for potential outbreak of the black fungus mucormycosis in Central and South America!!



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this is very concerning. i do hope u ppl that took the shot are on your guard. they are telling us the virus or vacine is making germs,in this case fungus,stronger. what else is in the box they are not mentioning? bacteria,other viruses, parasites,etc. ?

unless we have evidence to show, we do not know yet if the virus caused it or vaccine. nor do we know who will get sick from the super germs.

not to scare ya's but "anywhere at any time" so could b your town tomorrow, just like the next variant. use wisely
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There is no evidence yet you open your post blaming vaccines. Dude...
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It has nothing to do with the vaccines.

Indian scientists pretty much figured otMout. SARS2 / COVID is giving people AIDS for a short period of time after infection.

These peoples immune systems are so wrecked they cant fight off a aimple mold in the fruit crisper drawer
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Researchers in Brazil have discovered a higher than expected incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection among the cats and dogs of people with COVID-19.

A small study that repeatedly tested the pets of people with COVID-19 suggests that 31% of dogs and 40% of cats acquired a SARS-CoV-2 infection.


[link to www.medicalnewstoday.com (secure)]
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translation- the govern kick the can down the road has an alarm clock attatched. that clock is set at 5 yrs and counting down.

Americans are strange. u can do what u want to uncle fred,but do not mess with rover or dixie kitty. ppl get very upset. tick tok less than 5yrs to see ppl flip the F out.
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What do Americans have to do with this research in Brazil? If you will recall, Chinese threw their pets out of windows and killed their animals in a panic.
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do u think it will only affect animals in BRAZIL?
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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May be..
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Hate. This. Virus.
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I’m tending to like the virus more than the vaccine !
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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Researchers in Brazil have discovered a higher than expected incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection among the cats and dogs of people with COVID-19.

A small study that repeatedly tested the pets of people with COVID-19 suggests that 31% of dogs and 40% of cats acquired a SARS-CoV-2 infection.


[link to www.medicalnewstoday.com (secure)]
 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


translation- the govern kick the can down the road has an alarm clock attatched. that clock is set at 5 yrs and counting down.

Americans are strange. u can do what u want to uncle fred,but do not mess with rover or dixie kitty. ppl get very upset. tick tok less than 5yrs to see ppl flip the F out.
 Quoting: JAZZz50


What do Americans have to do with this research in Brazil? If you will recall, Chinese threw their pets out of windows and killed their animals in a panic.
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do u think it will only affect animals in BRAZIL?
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No, but why the need for a snarky comment?
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GNU nano 2.7.4 File: x.x Modified

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Interesting.. page 15:
Cases, Deaths FROM INDIAN/DELTA VARIANT by vaccination status.

Un-Vax: 19573 Cases, 23 Deaths --(251 Hosp Adm)
OneVax: 5393 Cases, 7 Deaths --(66 Hosp Adm.)
TwoVax: 1785 Cases, 12 Deaths --(42 Hosp Adm)

Statisticaly limited samples BUT
1) The Hospital admission rate to cases goes UP with more vaccine doses...
(1.3% noVax, 1.2% OneVax, 2.3% TwoVax)
and:

2) Hospital admission rate to deaths (removes the case bias prior) ALSO GOES UP with increased vaccine doses...
(9.1% NoVax, 10.6% OneVax, 29% TwoVax)

3) Death rate to cases also appears to increase with more vaccinations (0.1% NoVax, 0.1% OneVax 0.6% TwoVax)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78008151


Cases in 2 dose versus zero doses go down. And the one thing not accounted for in any of these data is behavior and attitude which has$
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Sorry, man, I don't think you understand the basis of understanding here.

Cases absolute number is kinda irrelevant for several reasons.

What matters is deaths-to-cases ratio, hospitalisations-to-cases ratio... the ratio removes the some of the biases inherent in the sam$


BUT the ratio does not remove the age-structure of the people in the study. That is much more relevant. And we will never know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78443029



Cases in themselves absolutely matter. The case number is a point in time, not and end story, with an unknown percentage likely to end$
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No. The case numbers are subject to biases we can not unfold. Detection rates, vaccine possibly making symptoms so mild that infectees$

You have to compare like with like.
When one reaches hospital, the chance of death is one (reasobable) like-for-like.
That goes monotonously UP the more vaccine is used.

We'd need the age profiles to really ufold it though.

FACT:
Death rate for those hospitalised is HIGHER if you're double-vaxxed.
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Hate. This. Virus.
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Back at ya
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New wave in Bangladesh. I guess that means India's next wave isn't far off either?


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The waves won’t be distinguishable at some point.
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nodding
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New wave in Bangladesh. I guess that means India's next wave isn't far off either?


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The waves won’t be distinguishable at some point.
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:nodding:
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How long i wonder?
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Imagine 100 different variants ravaging the population...all immune to prevouis forms of each other and vaccines deployed against them

I think this is why they gambled on the spike kill shot vaccine.


Exctinction level event if true...or atleast till 75% of us are all dead
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U.K. 7490 cases on a Sunday !

It will be an interesting week?
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.





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