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COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)

 
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I'm shocked. Just shocked. /s
 Quoting: WatchingWatchers


Most schools in the US will be back to remote by the end of September. The entire attempt to 'return to normal' is failing, badly.
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With what teachers? We are slowly disabling the workforce? It’s embarrassing.
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In Arkansas they won't close schools, at all. They won't even entertain masks. And there are HUGE TEACHER SHORTAGES. Good luck, Arkansas schools. My kid will remain at home.
1 John 5:19 - And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.
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I'm shocked. Just shocked. /s
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Most schools in the US will be back to remote by the end of September. The entire attempt to 'return to normal' is failing, badly.
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With what teachers? We are slowly disabling the workforce? It’s embarrassing.
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In Arkansas they won't close schools, at all. They won't even entertain masks. And there are HUGE TEACHER SHORTAGES. Good luck, Arkansas schools. My kid will remain at home.
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Good decision.

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All states have zero closed borders. There is traffic in and out every damned day. Whining about this lower vaccination versus this area that is more vaccinated is POINTLESS.

planes, trains, and automobiles..... that makes it all pointless.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


What good would that do? Delta is in every state, and every area of every state.

Delta is in Australia and New Zealand, who actually had effective border controls.

Exactly zero percent of the current COVID problem in the US is due to travel.

I was on the roads all over New England every day in April 2020, the closest we ever came to stopping all travel in the US. There was still plenty of cars on the road.

Even if you went more hardcore than that, there's still gonna be people traveling all over the country just to keep society running.

I'm looking out the window of my office right now across the street to a bar, who's parking lot is currently full of cars. Who frigging cares about travel???

Interesting side note, I know you all think I'm some kind of nothingburgerer, but I haven't been to that bar since January 2020 despite it only being about 100 yards away.

Thanks, hidden bottle of Tito's!!!

cheers
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Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)
It certainly is comparable to the flu in most respects - EXCEPT the conditions that typically limited the flu viral production cycle to a predictable, seasonal one - Fall/Winter, basically - are now present yearlong. The sickness, itself, is essentially a more severe form of the flu - but certainly can get much worse depending on health profile of the individual.

So, we're looking at weather, climatic, and environmental upheaval, swings, and disturbances that are continuously impacting human health in similar ways that the traditional 'flu season weather' would.

There's still peaks and valleys - Fall and Winter being more stringent - Spring into Summer more mild.

This was true even before the announcement of 'Covid' - but the conditions on the planet are such, now, that this isn't simply a sickness that is going away anytime soon 'as the seasons change'.

Some don't like to talk about planetary climate change due to the inverted way its typically presented, but it is certainly real and it is the main driver of this 'Covid' sickness - and we can expect it to continue until the waters calm, which may take ONLY a decade if the right decisions are made - namely, diminished physical activity typically associated with the frantic consumer economy and the lifestyles that support it.

This is not the time to be running wild like 'all is normal', but is a time for taking it easy, staying close to home, improving diet, nutrition, hygiene, and spiritual state - and employing all the technological tools we now have to assure work, education, and entertainment can still continue via more asynchronous, remote, and health-promoting ways necessary for the current conditions we're in and will be in for quite some time.

What's taking many down is this drive to 'return to normal' - which is impossible. Continuing to try to go back to some 'pre-pandemic' normal is goign to be the death of millions of businesses, people, and institutions.
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"One Health Doctrine Shill" ALERT!
siren2

Environment, my arse!!!! This is straight from a lab. And we've got the receipts to prove it.

PRRA insert. R made from CGG bases. Twice. In. A. Row.

Koopmans "we need to talk about the backbone, not just the insert" email.

More infectious Human-to-Human than any other species, no natural reservoir found.

Gimme a break!
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The only thing made in a lab - all the labs around the world - is the vaccine.
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All states have zero closed borders. There is traffic in and out every damned day. Whining about this lower vaccination versus this area that is more vaccinated is POINTLESS.

planes, trains, and automobiles..... that makes it all pointless.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


What good would that do? Delta is in every state, and every area of every state.

Delta is in Australia and New Zealand, who actually had effective border controls.

Exactly zero percent of the current COVID problem in the US is due to travel.

I was on the roads all over New England every day in April 2020, the closest we ever came to stopping all travel in the US. There was still plenty of cars on the road.

Even if you went more hardcore than that, there's still gonna be people traveling all over the country just to keep society running.

I'm looking out the window of my office right now across the street to a bar, who's parking lot is currently full of cars. Who frigging cares about travel???

Interesting side note, I know you all think I'm some kind of nothingburgerer, but I haven't been to that bar since January 2020 despite it only being about 100 yards away.

Thanks, hidden bottle of Tito's!!!

cheers
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Once we come to the understanding that we're not talking about sickness in terms of 'spreading' but EXPOSURE, then we can have a better policy discussion about what will limit the impact of people's exposure - exposure that can't be stopped, but we can respond to it by limiting activity that can be. We have the technological means to do this while still preserving people's livlihoods in most cases.
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Here's the thing about areas with bad COVID outbreaks right now re-instituting mask mandates.

When that happens, then someone posts "Look ****** went back to a mask mandate, see vaccines don't work!!!"

Well, does anyone really think that's gonna end the outbreak?

When bad things happen, people get angry at the people in charge. And if people in charge don't do anything, people get really angry. So they have to do SOMETHING.

Then, cases go down, and people say "Oh they only went down because of the masks see vaccines don't work!!!"

But we already went through this with lockdowns. Plenty of states didn't lock down this winter, and their cases went down just like everywhere else.
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1 John 5:19 - And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.
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NEW - North Korea: Mysterious spot and bandage appear on the back of Kim Jong Un’s head.
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All states have zero closed borders. There is traffic in and out every damned day. Whining about this lower vaccination versus this area that is more vaccinated is POINTLESS.

planes, trains, and automobiles..... that makes it all pointless.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


What good would that do? Delta is in every state, and every area of every state.

Delta is in Australia and New Zealand, who actually had effective border controls.

Exactly zero percent of the current COVID problem in the US is due to travel.

I was on the roads all over New England every day in April 2020, the closest we ever came to stopping all travel in the US. There was still plenty of cars on the road.

Even if you went more hardcore than that, there's still gonna be people traveling all over the country just to keep society running.

I'm looking out the window of my office right now across the street to a bar, who's parking lot is currently full of cars. Who frigging cares about travel???

Interesting side note, I know you all think I'm some kind of nothingburgerer, but I haven't been to that bar since January 2020 despite it only being about 100 yards away.

Thanks, hidden bottle of Tito's!!!

cheers
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Once we come to the understanding that we're not talking about sickness in terms of 'spreading' but EXPOSURE, then we can have a better policy discussion about what will limit the impact of people's exposure - exposure that can't be stopped, but we can respond to it by limiting activity that can be. We have the technological means to do this while still preserving people's livlihoods in most cases.
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Nope. Not from Nature.
Daszak shills not welcome here.

Ecohealth and the "One Health" nutters trying to stop human access to nature.

If we'd stoped EcoHealth we would not be where we are now.
News Flash: we're coming for you, Peter.
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1 John 5:19 - And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.
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They are really wanting to plant the seed that this type of stuff is coming....mainstream media really reporting on all these lockdowns/restrictions for the unjabbed



@AFP
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2m
"Everyone has to be vaccinated, if not, they cannot circulate in the municipality of Sucre," said Mayor Elvira Julia Mercado, as she ordered Covid-19 vaccine refusniks in her Colombian town to stay at home or face a fine, or even
prison


Under the decree, non-vaccinated people can leave home only to access health services or to go get the shot.

All townsfolk will have to show a vaccine card to access supermarkets, bars, discos, restaurants, banks and shops.

Those who defy the measure risk a fine equivalent to $260, and repeat offenders can end up in jail.


verydamned

Can't even get food

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1 John 5:19 - And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.
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Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)
NZ reported were averaging 1 covid case per day for the past week. Then this happened:


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Yes. I said POINTLESS.

don’t edit to make it look wrong.

And we all said vaccines are worthless plus kids as vectors. You said, nah... just a bump.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


You realize the example you just posted is the 4th lowest percent vaccinated state in the country, and they have the highest case per capita rate in the country.

Not really helping your case there.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


I only posted that because of the great masking that is slowly coming back. And the irony of it all.... it doesn’t matter because it’s not proper protection.

So my case has zero do do with it.

All states have zero closed borders. There is traffic in and out every damned day. Whining about this lower vaccination versus this area that is more vaccinated is POINTLESS.

planes, trains, and automobiles..... that makes it all pointless.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


All states have zero closed borders. There is traffic in and out every damned day. Whining about this lower vaccination versus this area that is more vaccinated is POINTLESS.

planes, trains, and automobiles..... that makes it all pointless.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


What good would that do? Delta is in every state, and every area of every state.

Delta is in Australia and New Zealand, who actually had effective border controls.

Exactly zero percent of the current COVID problem in the US is due to travel.

I was on the roads all over New England every day in April 2020, the closest we ever came to stopping all travel in the US. There was still plenty of cars on the road.

Even if you went more hardcore than that, there's still gonna be people traveling all over the country just to keep society running.

I'm looking out the window of my office right now across the street to a bar, who's parking lot is currently full of cars. Who frigging cares about travel???

Interesting side note, I know you all think I'm some kind of nothingburgerer, but I haven't been to that bar since January 2020 despite it only being about 100 yards away.

Thanks, hidden bottle of Tito's!!!

cheers
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Fly his ass to another state. Or drive. Hell no.
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The best way now is not the vaccine.

It is true PPE and space! FFS.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


How about true PPE, and space, and the vaccine?

ohyeah
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Because this should not be given to kids under 18. We don’t have 10 years of data. That’s an irresponsible choice.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


CC

The way forward is mRNA...Huge step forward in medicine...not Super keen on Jabbing kids

Got a call yesterday right before I left Work...Employer is experiencing an Outbreak...not my Dept. but two co-workers wives work there...One got sick Fri... went to Hospital Sun. and was admitted...She was back home today...She had the J&J Jab...three rapid tests out of several that was done today was +

CC

Try telling a Fundamentalist Baptist Trump Loving Preacher that the Virus didn't disappear after the election and Delta is nothing more than Biden's CDC taking more control

He's daughter was forced to Vaxxx as she attends school in the N.E.

Work sucked today

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Sorry, CG.

I have zero good covid news.
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They are really wanting to plant the seed that this type of stuff is coming....mainstream media really reporting on all these lockdowns/restrictions for the unjabbed



@AFP
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2m
"Everyone has to be vaccinated, if not, they cannot circulate in the municipality of Sucre," said Mayor Elvira Julia Mercado, as she ordered Covid-19 vaccine refusniks in her Colombian town to stay at home or face a fine, or even
prison


Under the decree, non-vaccinated people can leave home only to access health services or to go get the shot.

All townsfolk will have to show a vaccine card to access supermarkets, bars, discos, restaurants, banks and shops.

Those who defy the measure risk a fine equivalent to $260, and repeat offenders can end up in jail.


:verydamned:

Can't even get food
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In that part of the world, those are the kinds of decrees that get officials assassinated.
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They are really wanting to plant the seed that this type of stuff is coming....mainstream media really reporting on all these lockdowns/restrictions for the unjabbed



@AFP
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"Everyone has to be vaccinated, if not, they cannot circulate in the municipality of Sucre," said Mayor Elvira Julia Mercado, as she ordered Covid-19 vaccine refusniks in her Colombian town to stay at home or face a fine, or even
prison


Under the decree, non-vaccinated people can leave home only to access health services or to go get the shot.

All townsfolk will have to show a vaccine card to access supermarkets, bars, discos, restaurants, banks and shops.

Those who defy the measure risk a fine equivalent to $260, and repeat offenders can end up in jail.


:verydamned:

Can't even get food
 Quoting: dyin


This is also the kind of thing that happens when these officials believe the disinformation about the vaccine, itself. As the vaccinated continue to get sick and come down with Covid, they are either going to treat everyone equally in this respect - or we're going to see some really ugly things happens where these political officials will find themselves in the crosshairs, quite literally.
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 Quoting: CleverCreator


Nigeria to receive new batch of 4 million doses of Moderna Covid-19 vaccine tomorrow

rockon
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Yeah, yeah we know...Moderna's the shit.

jerkit

Ultimately, it will be shown that none of these "vaccines" are the shit...but rather Big Pharma is full of shit.
 Quoting: Georgia Geoprepper


I seriously think Moderna affected his neurons, he just keeps parroting the same shit.
 Quoting: WatchingWatchers


Sweetheart

Some of us has vaxxxed...This thread has many that hasn't been Jabbed with mRNA

Those that have anything other than an mRNA Jab needs to consider taking ONE of them that are available when it comes to booster time

One Moderna Jab has over Three Times as much Vaccine as 3 Pfizer Jabs

Don't mean Shit to you but it might to some here

Moderna's the Shit

hesright
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Dude. I suggest you not use the “sweetheart” shit, CG.

Your vaccine is not what you think it is. There is too much movement, not enough care for others, and can’t been given to the planet with regular ease.

At best we have a year.... realistically.... breakdowns are already slowing happening. It’s just hard to see how the whole planet is connected and grinding together.
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You convinced me from all your facts

Moderna is awesome

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You convinced me from all your facts

Moderna is awesome

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This one's for you CG ... Moderna made me do it KD




No Laughing Matter — Comedian Jimmy Dore Says ‘Symptoms Never Went Away’ After Second Moderna Shot

Jimmy Dore told Joe Rogan on “The Joe Rogan Experience” podcast that months after receiving the second dose of the Moderna COVID vaccine, he continues to suffer side effects including fevers, body aches, exhaustion and a stiff neck. ... [link to childrenshealthdefense.org (secure)]

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Here's the thing about areas with bad COVID outbreaks right now re-instituting mask mandates.

When that happens, then someone posts "Look ****** went back to a mask mandate, see vaccines don't work!!!"

Well, does anyone really think that's gonna end the outbreak?
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Well, there's still going to be outbreaks even with impressive vax uptakes. However on TV the other day they had someone on who mentioned what you did. They said if it was them they would make the messaging be that in order to not undermine the vax, people should be told that the vax works but the reason why the vaxxed have to wear masks again is because without that it often relies on the word of the unvaxxed to be truthful about their vax status which makes things tricky. Therefore just tell the vaxxed they need to mask up but only because that way it ensures the unvaxxed won't be able to evade the mask wearing.
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The 7 day average for deaths in Sweden, Norway, and Finland for the past month is all zero.

Something something nordic neighbors something something.
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Here's the thing about areas with bad COVID outbreaks right now re-instituting mask mandates.

When that happens, then someone posts "Look ****** went back to a mask mandate, see vaccines don't work!!!"

Well, does anyone really think that's gonna end the outbreak?
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Well, there's still going to be outbreaks even with impressive vax uptakes. However on TV the other day they had someone on who mentioned what you did. They said if it was them they would make the messaging be that in order to not undermine the vax, people should be told that the vax works but the reason why the vaxxed have to wear masks again is because without that it often relies on the word of the unvaxxed to be truthful about their vax status which makes things tricky. Therefore just tell the vaxxed they need to mask up but only because that way it ensures the unvaxxed won't be able to evade the mask wearing.
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We are past that after the congressional anti mask league walked the halls last week.
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The 7 day average for deaths in Sweden, Norway, and Finland for the past month is all zero.

Something something nordic neighbors something something.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Well.... they did a good study with all those not dead but oh something something.....

Infected is infected.

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Positivity rate has been dropping slightly in the past couple of days.

Might not mean anything there's been other times it has dipped and then rose, but this is the first time that has happened in a month and a half.





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