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COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)

 
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If people start posting music videos please ban them!
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

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Cases rising in 10 states, including those that are ditching mask mandates


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Mean...that was a depressing read. But probably true. (Sigh)
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The US is in for a very big shock in the next few weeks.
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

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Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)
The World Obesity Federation said in a new report today that the majority of COVID-19 deaths have occurred in countries with high obesity levels, including the United States, Britain, and Italy. They also said countries where less than half are overweight have one-tenth the deaths of those with overweight populations.

[link to www.worldobesityday.org (secure)]

One tenth - rich world problem!!

Amazing graph....

https://imgur.com/oio8cFQ

 Quoting: ParamedicUK




If only it were as simple as saying the covid deaths/hospitalizations is nearly all due to obesity. Don't get me wrong, having obesity is not going to do any favors for someone who has covid, but there has to be more to it than just obesity.


I'm glad you posted the chart, it helps to visualize. But taking a look at the graph the correlation is rather weak. The plots are scattered such that there's many countries positioned in the lower right quadrant. Basically while the deaths did increase substantially in some countries with high obesity, this was far from the case in all countries.

If obesity played a defining role in most covid cases then the graph's pattern would surely look something more like this: diagonal

https://imgur.com/j29M03l



A lot of these countries that have high numbers of people with BMI >25 (high obesity) would also be richer countries that are able to afford to feed their people more (generally speaking). These richer countries with their healthcare are able to support an older population too. It is these older people that are making up most of those deaths in these countries, regardless of the country's levels of obesity.
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If people start posting music videos please ban them!
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chuckle
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If people start posting music videos please ban them!
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chuckle
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putin-thiss
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I've generally stayed away from the talk of prophylactics and the effectiveness HCQ and Invermectin. People seem to get very het up over it.



I cottoned on a couple of weeks ago to a conversation between doctors that they are being hounded by drugs reps hawking Invermectic as a wonder cure.

My instinct is that all the talk of this being a wonder drug to treat Covid is a co-ordinated campaign perpetuated by manufacturers and salesmen as an opportunity to make a quick buck.

Pretty much just ambulance chasing and its been highly successful even if the drug may not be.
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Brazil doing nothing right it seems.

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Brazil already has tentacles into California

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Study explains how the B.1.1.7 SARS-CoV-2 variant is more transmissible.

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Err Uncle Doom?
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Sorry to hear that, GG.

hf
 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


prayers that the damn vaccine at minimum helps keep the symptoms on the “mild” side.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Thanks, all...as of last night, he was feeling worse...mother-in-law says she is doing her best to keep him in bed...she still has no symptoms...hoping he will go and get tested, but he is still clinging to the idea that he is "protected" and this isn't COVID...
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Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)
Scientists have identified 16 cases of another new variant of coronavirus in the UK.

Public Health England has designated it as a 'variant under investigation' (VUI), meaning it is on their watch list, but not one they are immediately concerned about.

It has a mutation in common with the South Africa and Brazil variants.


[link to www.bbc.co.uk (secure)]



New Variant Under Investigation designated in the UK


[link to www.gov.uk (secure)]



Here's a look at the latest increase in cases of the variants of concern in the UK

[link to www.gov.uk (secure)]
 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


Very interesting - goal posts moving again !!
 Quoting: ParamedicUK


Yep...they are moving so often, put wheels on them so you can just roll em around...work smarter not harder...
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People are catching two coronavirus strains at the same time.


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This is where things become truly terrifying...when people literally become walking petri dish mutation machines...no bueno...
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 Quoting: lightning1977


You've been busy this morning mate! How's the recovery going for you and Mrs L? I'll have to go searching for UDs posts about covid and the gut. Definitely rings a bell.
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You've been busy this morning mate! How's the recovery going for you and Mrs L? I'll have to go searching for UDs posts about covid and the gut. Definitely rings a bell.
 Quoting: BertTabernacle


If I recall correctly he said it can hide out in the gut.
Working on it
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Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)
Many people in this thread are justifiably skeptical of taking these largely untested vaccines that are being pushed hard by the government and will generate astronomical profits for a few megacorporations.

Most of these very same people wholeheartedly support draconian lockdowns that have been mandated by the government and have generated astronomical profits for a few megacorporations.

Do I have to spell out the incredible irony?

Fuck a vaccine passport. Get a vaccine if you want one, and leave me alone

Fuck a mandatory lockdown. Hide if you want to, and leave me alone.

It's really not that complicated.

If you want Massa Gub'mint to lock you in your cage and inject you with The Science, then move to China (or Europe, sadly). This, however, shouldn't be tolerated, much less begged for, in these United States.
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Brazil's Covid outbreak is global threat that opens door to lethal variants

Duke University neuroscientist urges international community to challenge Brazilian government over its failure to contain it.

“What’s the point in sorting the pandemic out in Europe or the United States, if Brazil continues to be a breeding ground for this virus?”


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Brazil’s Covid outbreak risks spawning even DEADLIER variants that ‘could force world back into lockdown’ despite jabs

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“What’s the point in sorting the pandemic out in Europe or the United States,

if XXXXX

}> Insert ANY Country in the World//Due to AIR FUCKING Travel <{


Continues to be a breeding ground for this virus?”


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 Quoting: lightning1977


You've been busy this morning mate! How's the recovery going for you and Mrs L? I'll have to go searching for UDs posts about covid and the gut. Definitely rings a bell.
 Quoting: BertTabernacle


I know! I've really got far too much work to do to be hunting virus stories. I feel every bit of information could be useful at the moment. I might be wrong but I can't get by head round the narrative that this is all over yet.

We're both much better thanks. The breathless spells Mrs L was suffering with appear to have dissipated..

All good with you?
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Cases rising in 10 states, including those that are ditching mask mandates


 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


Mean...that was a depressing read. But probably true. (Sigh)
 Quoting: Elevatorguy


The US is in for a very big shock in the next few weeks.
 Quoting: ParamedicUK


What makes my skin crawl is Mississippi. Look at it! It's red! The governor of that state declared "Covid-19 is over". The topmost NW county is Desoto County and my house is 15 minutes away on Interstate 55.

I see plates from MS all day long in Tennessee. We all understand that a large portion of our numbers come from commuters from MS.
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It's ok.. everything's ok.

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UK surge testing areas: -



No reasons for this as the vaccine is effective against all variants.
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It's ok. they found him

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But the natural immunity doesn't protect from new variants

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We are going red in the Campania region (Italy) soon. Intel, no link.
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Take care over there.

hf
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Thank you. Hope everyone here is doing well. Stay safe!
First tell the truth, then give your opinion....
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A fake vaccine ring(or a ring pushing fake vaccines) was busted. Chinese nationals allegedly involved. So we are led to believe the demand is so high that bootleg/fake vaccines can actually support a black market. Part of the propaganda to gaslight people into believing that the "cure" is really, really in demand.
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Cases rising in 10 states, including those that are ditching mask mandates


 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


Mean...that was a depressing read. But probably true. (Sigh)
 Quoting: Elevatorguy


The US is in for a very big shock in the next few weeks.
 Quoting: ParamedicUK


What makes my skin crawl is Mississippi. Look at it! It's red! The governor of that state declared "Covid-19 is over". The topmost NW county is Desoto County and my house is 15 minutes away on Interstate 55.

I see plates from MS all day long in Tennessee. We all understand that a large portion of our numbers come from commuters from MS.
 Quoting: Elevatorguy


Move
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clappa

Yep looks like the vaccines gave all based covered.

Excellent news and cases and deaths still plummeting in UK.
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DAILY TELEGRAPH....Early data from an Oxford University study suggest that the AstraZeneca vaccine is effective against the P1 variant, according to the Reuters news agency.

This indicates that the vaccine will not need to be modified in order to protect against the variant, which is thought to have originated in Manaus in the Amazon.
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I've generally stayed away from the talk of prophylactics and the effectiveness HCQ and Invermectin. People seem to get very het up over it.



I cottoned on a couple of weeks ago to a conversation between doctors that they are being hounded by drugs reps hawking Invermectic as a wonder cure.

My instinct is that all the talk of this being a wonder drug to treat Covid is a co-ordinated campaign perpetuated by manufacturers and salesmen as an opportunity to make a quick buck.

Pretty much just ambulance chasing and its been highly successful even if the drug may not be.
 Quoting: lightning1977


Maybe. But as I understand it Ivermectin is not that easy to obtain like other drugs.

Personally I just stick to fermented cod liver oil capsules.
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AC 4969, please provide a link to the news item in the future.
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They found the missing P1 case and it’s all ok....

The third case in England - the person who has now been found - was not linked.

Their location has not yet been released, but the search for them had been narrowed to 379 households in south-east England.

Earlier this week, preliminary data from Manaus - the Brazilian city hit hard by this P.1 variant - suggested the variant could be up to twice as transmissible as earlier Covid.

But experts said this should not be used to predict what might happen in the UK.

One of the lead researchers said it was unlikely P.1 would quickly take off in Britain when only six cases had been identified and these were being closely monitored.


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clusters





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