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COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)

 
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I miss 1998.

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i miss 1776. u do know the 1st shot was an accident don't ya? well kinda,shhhh

i tossed a rock on the bridge and LMAO a redcoat tripped on it. bang his gun went off.

i wonder what flag we'd b under if i had just not tossed that rock out there.
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ARM like u never have before.
there is 1 force of magic left to counter whatever comes.

it is time to call GHOSTBUSTERS to build this city with rock n roll. turn every radio and stereo on in this whole damn world. mayb just mayb it works again.
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I miss West Virginia

The Casto Hole is a cavern deep.
Where all good men can quiet sleep.
And all their Covid plans unfold.
While forted there in the Casto Hole.

The game-legg'd miller took his flight.
For upper Tug he struck one night.
His fears were far beyond control.
So he bolted back to the Casto Hole.

Go to their homes and pay a call.
There reigns a solemn silence all.
Take their tracks, be they ever cold.
They'll lead you to the Casto Hole.

They say old Joel, he died of late.
And took his flight to Heaven's Gate.
Saint Peter knew the poor old soul.
And kicked him back to the Casto Hole.

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Moderna COVID-19 vaccine spurs lasting immune response

As they report in Science, a low dose of the Moderna vaccine lasts for at least six months, and there is no indicator that vaccinated people will need a booster shot.

Half dose of Moderna is close to Double Dose of Pfizer

[link to www.eurekalert.org (secure)]

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how is your hospital holding up with covid? check this

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ARM like u never have before.
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it is time to call GHOSTBUSTERS to build this city with rock n roll. turn every radio and stereo on in this whole damn world. mayb just mayb it works again.
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how is your hospital holding up with covid? check this

[link to data.commercialappeal.com (secure)]
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this gives u an interactive map and lots of info when u zoom in to your area and towns around yours.
JAZZZ50

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ARM like u never have before.
there is 1 force of magic left to counter whatever comes.

it is time to call GHOSTBUSTERS to build this city with rock n roll. turn every radio and stereo on in this whole damn world. mayb just mayb it works again.
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In fact, while the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine (mRNA-1273) led to strong CD4+ (helper) T cell, CD8+ (killer) T cell and antibody responses for at least six months after clinical trial participants were fully vaccinated, it is likely that the immune response could last much longer. The researchers also show that this strong immune memory lasted in all age groups tested, including in people over age 70, a demographic especially vulnerable to severe COVID-19.

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That's a great explanation. I've looked at some figures. Around 80% of weekly deaths in England and Wales are of people aged over 65. 95% of this demographic are double vaxxed. Of the remaining deaths (people under 65) who make up 20% of total weekly fatalities, I think that around 85% are double vaxxed (the vast majority of deaths in this group are in the 50-64 age group).

I'm using weekly deaths but the same proportions will apply to yearly, monthly or daily deaths.

So it's safe to say that 90-95% of people dying in England and Wales right now are double vaxxed.

We know that excess deaths have averaged about 1000 a week (10% above the five-year average) for the last eight weeks and only half of these excess deaths have been attributed to covid. We also know that most of these non-covid excess deaths have been of people aged over 80.

If, during this autumn and winter, the recent non-covid excess death trend continues, and maybe accelerates, then I believe that the general public will increasingly blame the vaccines.

The vaccines are injuring people. That is a fact. The ADE aspect has yet to be proven but vaccine injuries alone could be responsible for a huge uptick in mortality in the months to come.
 Quoting: Diffster

One thing I'd like to do is to work out how many vaccinations have occurred in the last 8 weeks, and then how many excess deaths over-and-above a 'pre-2020' average in the same time. I would then subtract the known COVID deaths from that excess (it'll be about 500-700 per week from COVID until recently, I guess). That leaves the probable maximum for vaccine-related deaths.
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You should propose all this and put it in a pre-print and put it on Medtwitter. Let's see how other people interpret your work. Please provide a link back. You are in a captive audience here of people who want to hear that vaccines are of no value and Ivermectin is the bomb.
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That was quick, i thought it would take two weeks but it only took one day. De blasio wants the virus to spread.
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I think you are on the wrong thread. People here don't believe in lockdowns. or masks. Many barely believe in testing. And don't even mention vaccines. This "let 'er rip" is the GLP way.
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did AC bump his head? or was he born stupid? there is over 10,000 pages of notes saying otherwise. learn to read u'd b educated.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

ARM like u never have before.
there is 1 force of magic left to counter whatever comes.

it is time to call GHOSTBUSTERS to build this city with rock n roll. turn every radio and stereo on in this whole damn world. mayb just mayb it works again.
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You should propose all this and put it in a pre-print and put it on Medtwitter. Let's see how other people interpret your work. Please provide a link back. You are in a captive audience here of people who want to hear that vaccines are of no value and Ivermectin is the bomb.
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Ivermectin would certainly help (what harm can it do?) Why are they covering it up? hmmm..

We were all mis-sold on these injections! - And the case rate/100k being higher in most age groups for 'Anyvax' [link to imgur.com (secure)] shows they are acting like Geert Vanden Bossche said, LEAKY. DANGEROUS --See MArek's disease, Andrew Read:
[link to journals.plos.org (secure)]
Imperfect Vaccination Can Enhance the Transmission of Highly Virulent Pathogens


Your post is divisive and seeks to use my work to 'prove' your opinion on the vaccines. I won't have that!

I have seen vaccine injury first-hand - and it's not all about death. People are having life-changing injuries. (BTW, Zero instances of those from Ivermectin!)

I also see you're trying it on with General Thade, too.

I will continue with my work, but I doubt you'll like what I have found (preliminary) when you remove the 'cases' bias, and look at deaths/100k of population in vax/unvax groups..
It does not look so good for the vaccines.

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Retracted -- flawed calculation.

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Can't make this shit up, German Dr's now recommend to get the booster shot together with the flu shot for those over 60yrs old. Can't kill them old folks (who actually still now what dictatorship, communism, war etc means) fast enough I suppose.

[link to m.focus.de (secure)]
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Ok this is interesting..
[link to www.publichealthontario.ca (secure)]

Page2: Myocarditis rate in 18-24yo was 263-per-million for Moderna. (That's 26 / 100k !)

Myocarditis, even if mild, corresponds to death of a certain fraction of the heart muscle fibers. Only scar-tissue replaces what's lost.

What fraction of those youngsters will suffer an early death? Probably not too many inside 28 days of the vaccine. But possible qute a few over the next decade.

263-per-million corresponds to 263 * 5.7m already vaccinated in England = expected 1473 cases, if Moderna was used (it wasn’t, but i’m making a point here..)

But let's remember - in English 18-29yo, to-date EDIT: between weeks 32-35, there have been just 13 (THIRTEEN) deaths from COVID in 3.5 million unvaccinated.
Three deaths in the vaccinated part of the group (5.5 million).

EDIT: Below -not sure any more- as only weeks 32-35 considered in PHE numbers.
As per my post above, equalizing the rates-of-death in this group would only take 17 deaths!

Would 17 of the expected 1473 cases die? Quite possibly.
Vaccine benefit wiped out by that one disease.


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did AC bump his head? or was he born stupid? there is over 10,000 pages of notes saying otherwise. learn to read u'd b educated.
 Quoting: JAZZz50


Reading comprehension…

Well “lack of” is the biggest clue.
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This month is gonna be ugly up north.


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Doom Level: Cluster Cluster Fuuuuuuuck

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Eek. Brace for the next two waves.

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Ok this is interesting..
[link to www.publichealthontario.ca (secure)]

Page2: Myocarditis rate in 18-24yo was 263-per-million for Moderna. (That's 26 / 100k !)

Myocarditis, even if mild, corresponds to death of a certain fraction of the heart muscle fibers. Only scar-tissue replaces what's lost.

What fraction of those youngsters will suffer an early death? Probably not too many inside 28 days of the vaccine. But possible qute a few over the next decade.

263-per-million corresponds to 263 * 5.7m already vaccinated in England = expected 1473 cases, if Moderna was used (it wasn’t, but i’m making a point here..)

But let's remember - in English 18-29yo, to date, there have been just 13 (THIRTEEN) deaths from COVID in 3.5 million unvaccinated.
Three deaths in the vaccinated part of the group (5.5 million).

As per my post above, equalizing the rates-of-death in this group would only take 17 deaths!

Would 17 of the expected 1473 cases die? Quite possibly.
Vaccine benefit wiped out by that one disease.

 Quoting: S-man


and how many cases of subclinical myocarditis have occurred? I would wager that it's a MUCH higher number, though this will also be true with infection
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Eek. Brace for the next two waves.

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Ok this is interesting..
[link to www.publichealthontario.ca (secure)]

Page2: Myocarditis rate in 18-24yo was 263-per-million for Moderna. (That's 26 / 100k !)

Myocarditis, even if mild, corresponds to death of a certain fraction of the heart muscle fibers. Only scar-tissue replaces what's lost.

What fraction of those youngsters will suffer an early death? Probably not too many inside 28 days of the vaccine. But possible qute a few over the next decade.

263-per-million corresponds to 263 * 5.7m already vaccinated in England = expected 1473 cases, if Moderna was used (it wasn’t, but i’m making a point here..)

But let's remember - in English 18-29yo, to-date EDIT: between weeks 32-35, there have been just 13 (THIRTEEN) deaths from COVID in 3.5 million unvaccinated.
Three deaths in the vaccinated part of the group (5.5 million).

EDIT: Below -not sure any more- as only weeks 32-35 considered in PHE numbers.
As per my post above, equalizing the rates-of-death in this group would only take 17 deaths!

Would 17 of the expected 1473 cases die? Quite possibly.
Vaccine benefit wiped out by that one disease.

 Quoting: S-man


and how many cases of subclinical myocarditis have occurred? I would wager that it's a MUCH higher number, though this will also be true with infection
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Ok, well I've just realised the BIG FLAW in my calc.. the deaths from PHE correspond only to a four-week period so I'm going to have to go back and re-think.
Still, it does not look good.

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Can't make this shit up, German Dr's now recommend to get the booster shot together with the flu shot for those over 60yrs old. Can't kill them old folks (who actually still now what dictatorship, communism, war etc means) fast enough I suppose.

[link to m.focus.de (secure)]
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That's what the current plan is for flu jabs in our area, Pfizer shot 1/2/booster in one arm, flu in the other. At the same time.

What could go wrong?

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Can't make this shit up, German Dr's now recommend to get the booster shot together with the flu shot for those over 60yrs old. Can't kill them old folks (who actually still now what dictatorship, communism, war etc means) fast enough I suppose.

[link to m.focus.de (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80873966


That's what the current plan is for flu jabs in our area, Pfizer shot 1/2/booster in one arm, flu in the other. At the same time.

What could go wrong?
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Interesting they do the same in UK too.

At least they can blame it on the flu then (remember the CDC recalls the pcr tests in the US 31.12.21 because they can't differ good enough between corona and influenza?)

What I know from traditional active vaccines in children, if you get the mmr and the varicella shot together, sideffects are expected. If you get these 2 shots on the same day in different parts of body it will be not as bad as if you get both shots in the same spot.
But these are "normal" vaccines, don't know what flu shot (with its many side effects and people falling ill anyway) and the mrna spike thingy does.

Still sounds not a good idea.

(remember when they said "oh no problem mixing different vaccines like 1st shot Pfizer 2nd astrazeneca"? - they became very quiet and didn't recommend it anymore.)
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Just got a call last night that my brother has Covid and is in bad shape. He was the first in the family to get 'vaxxed' and he excitedly pushed the vax on us, forcefully promoting it like a pharmaceutical sales rep even threaten my wife and I if we don't get injected to "protect our parents" who refuse the poison. A few of my extended family are poisoned with the jab but most are not. As much as I dislike him for destroying my family a few years ago over money I don't wish him death. With that said, if he does pass, my wife and I will most likely be called into action to care for his 2 daughters. The irony is bitter sweet but incredibly frightening as it is close to home and I have no desire to drive out to NY to visit his dumbass in the ICU. I am 100% certain my wife and I made the right choices to get to where we are today and to be self sufficient off the grid and toxic vax free no longer materialistic slaves of this corrupt world.
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how is your hospital holding up with covid? check this

[link to data.commercialappeal.com (secure)]
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this gives u an interactive map and lots of info when u zoom in to your area and towns around yours.
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That is a great graphic! You can even go back in time and see how hospital occupancy changed since the beginning of this mess.
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That's a great explanation. I've looked at some figures. Around 80% of weekly deaths in England and Wales are of people aged over 65. 95% of this demographic are double vaxxed. Of the remaining deaths (people under 65) who make up 20% of total weekly fatalities, I think that around 85% are double vaxxed (the vast majority of deaths in this group are in the 50-64 age group).

I'm using weekly deaths but the same proportions will apply to yearly, monthly or daily deaths.

So it's safe to say that 90-95% of people dying in England and Wales right now are double vaxxed.

We know that excess deaths have averaged about 1000 a week (10% above the five-year average) for the last eight weeks and only half of these excess deaths have been attributed to covid. We also know that most of these non-covid excess deaths have been of people aged over 80.

If, during this autumn and winter, the recent non-covid excess death trend continues, and maybe accelerates, then I believe that the general public will increasingly blame the vaccines.

The vaccines are injuring people. That is a fact. The ADE aspect has yet to be proven but vaccine injuries alone could be responsible for a huge uptick in mortality in the months to come.
 Quoting: Diffster

One thing I'd like to do is to work out how many vaccinations have occurred in the last 8 weeks, and then how many excess deaths over-and-above a 'pre-2020' average in the same time. I would then subtract the known COVID deaths from that excess (it'll be about 500-700 per week from COVID until recently, I guess). That leaves the probable maximum for vaccine-related deaths.
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You should propose all this and put it in a pre-print and put it on Medtwitter. Let's see how other people interpret your work. Please provide a link back. You are in a captive audience here of people who want to hear that vaccines are of no value and Ivermectin is the bomb.
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Certainly a different perspective.. [link to twitter.com (secure)] ... [link to twitter.com (secure)]

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