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MAKE NO MISTAKE: The Payroll Tax FUNDS Social Security and Medicare. TODAY, trump just promised to DEFUND them.

 
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had a good chat with my brother in law. It is a total police state. $1600AUD fines for being out and about without your papers. Cops everywhere. Road stops. Total economic shutdown. Worse than I’ve heard from anywhere yet. Not fake news
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Re: MAKE NO MISTAKE: The Payroll Tax FUNDS Social Security and Medicare. TODAY, trump just promised to DEFUND them.
trump said income taxes and capital gain stock not payroll tax (social security/medicare)
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Social Security and Medicare are not taxes! They are deductions that will fund your retirement. It's your own money first and foremost that will give you a monthly income when you retire from the workforce.
"When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change"
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its all getting a big reset anyway in the next year

good or bad we will see..

biden would raise taxes and cut social security anyway.

id rather be for trump and play this out than obama lite..

at least this ride is something new

consequences
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Biden will only be president in your dreams.
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Re: MAKE NO MISTAKE: The Payroll Tax FUNDS Social Security and Medicare. TODAY, trump just promised to DEFUND them.
Who's the head of the Fed right now? Trump is - we cancel our own debt. Print the US note - not borrow from the private roschild Fed/IMF.

People are not paying attention - and the demoncraps are lying to you.

The only "payroll" tax that will be not taken from your paycheck will be the federal tax -

People - look at your paycheck stubs - don't be idiots.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76140145


Incorrect.

This is about the payroll tax, not Federal income tax. The payroll tax is the sole source of revenue for Social Security and Medicare.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56837634


Who has been instilling all this false info out there about payroll taxes and Social Security/Medicare. They are not one and the same.

For instance, if Trump ever did away with all payroll taxes, Social Security will still be deducted from your paycheck because it will FUND YOUR RETIREMENT after you quit working.

Once you apply for Social Security, you will receive a monthly payment for the rest of your life, along with Medicare.

Now do you understand that Social Security is not a payroll tax?
"When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change"
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It's funny. You all hate zoomers but when they get refunded you cry cause Trump did it...gtfo with your bullshit
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Defund welfare boy




MAGA last stand
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Re: MAKE NO MISTAKE: The Payroll Tax FUNDS Social Security and Medicare. TODAY, trump just promised to DEFUND them.
Prove that it has been defunded.
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It was NEVER funded.

READ the Social Security Act of 1935. They told you from the beginning there is NO TRUST FUND. A trust fund is never mentioned in the SS ACT.
It is called a trust account in which is recorded your contributions. This was not said but I believe the only reason they keep account is to make sure you pay all they determine you owe.
The ACT says all taxes collected will be deposited in the general fund as IRS tax receipts.
In a decision after the year 2000 the United States Supreme Court determined the Social Security Administration has no contractual obligation to pay any funds to anyone. The ACT is NOT an insurance policy. The funds are collected to increase revenue. If you don't believe me then read the very first paragraph of the act where it explicitly states and I quote 'to increase revenue'. The first paragraph goes on to state and I quote 'and for other purposes'. Do you think Congress can think of other purposes to spend the money?
When you realize the general fund of the United States is an IMF account in a bank in Puerto Rico then you will realize we have been lied to since 1935 at the latest. Anyone who claims there is a SS Trust Fund is either uneducated or bald face lying to you.
Each state SS administrator tells Congress how much money the state is going to need for the next year and Congress appropriates it out of the general fund for the next year.
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He's just ending federal taxes, not social security - Dumbass - or should I call you a liar?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76140145


Do you even have a clue what you are talking about?

Trump wants to defer payroll taxes. That is the only source of revenue for Social Security and Medicare, into which we have all been paying our whole lives.

If Trump ends that revenue, they are finished much sooner than anyone has ever predicted.

Not only that, this is a deferral. That means you will have to pay it back next year IF you have any money.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56837634


Obviously you don't know the difference between payroll TAXES and Social Security DEDUCTION.

If Trump ends payroll TAXES, your Social Security DEDUCTION will still be deducted from your paycheck. It is YOUR Social Security that you are paying for that will give you monthly payments once you retired.

Schools these days have certainly dumbed down at least one generation, maybe two.
 Quoting: Catnip


Uh, no to you paying for your eventual SS payments.

READ the Social Security Act of 1935. They told you from the beginning there is NO TRUST FUND. A trust fund is never mentioned in the SS ACT.
It is called a trust account in which is recorded your contributions. This was not said but I believe the only reason they keep account is to make sure you pay all they determine you owe.
The ACT says all taxes collected will be deposited in the general fund as IRS tax receipts.
In a decision after the year 2000 the United States Supreme Court determined the Social Security Administration has no contractual obligation to pay any funds to anyone. The ACT is NOT an insurance policy. The funds are collected to increase revenue. If you don't believe me then read the very first paragraph of the act where it explicitly states and I quote 'to increase revenue'. The first paragraph goes on to state and I quote 'and for other purposes'. Do you think Congress can think of other purposes to spend the money?
When you realize the general fund of the United States is an IMF account in a bank in Puerto Rico then you will realize we have been lied to since 1935 at the latest. Anyone who claims there is a SS Trust Fund is either uneducated or bald face lying to you.
Each state SS administrator tells Congress how much money the state is going to need for the next year and Congress appropriates it out of the general fund for the next year.
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After Covid-19 kills off almost everyone over 65 there will be no need for funding Medicare and SS.

Trump's always in the future.
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How old is Trump?

scratching
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MAKE NO MISTAKE: The Payroll Tax FUNDS Social Security and Medicare.

TODAY, trump just promised to DEFUND them.

Make sure EVERYONE knows about this

It's your benefits that you paid into your whole life. Defunding the only source of revenue to keep Social Security and Medicare solvent with crash it ten years earlier.

See what President Reagan had to say :


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79244210


If you make over $100,000 you still pay. I would think all the redistributionist lefties would love that, but orange man bad.
 Quoting: Arthur Jackson


If Biden proposed this they would be buying the tools already to put his mug on Mount Rushmore.





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