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VICE: “The United States Postal Service is removing mail sorting machines from facilities around the country without any official explanation

 
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VICE: “The United States Postal Service is removing mail sorting machines from facilities around the country without any official explanation
The Post Office Is Deactivating Mail Sorting Machines Ahead of the Election

The United States Postal Service is removing mail sorting machines from facilities around the country without any official explanation or reason given, Motherboard has learned through interviews with postal workers and union officials. In many cases, these are the same machines that would be tasked with sorting ballots, calling into question promises made by Postmaster General Louis DeJoy that the USPS has “ample capacity” to handle the predicted surge in mail-in ballots.

Motherboard identified 19 mail sorting machines from five processing facilities across the U.S. that either have already been removed or are scheduled to be in the near future. But the Postal Service operates hundreds of distribution facilities around the country, so it is not clear precisely how many machines are getting removed and for what purpose.

Even to local union officials, USPS has not announced any policy, explained why they are doing this, what will happen to the machines and the workers who use them. Nor has management provided a rationale for dismantling and removing the machines from the facility rather than merely not operating them when they’re not needed.

“I’m not sure you’re going to find an answer for why [the machines being removed] makes sense,” said Iowa Postal Workers Union President Kimberly Karol, “because we haven’t figured that out either.”

“Look at it this way: Your local grocery store was forced to cut 1/3 of its cash-out lines, but management expected the same productivity, quality, and speed for the customer,” said an employee at a Buffalo distribution facility, which they said is set to lose six out of 21 mail sorting machines. “It’s just never going to happen.”

While the consequences of this new policy are mostly unclear for now, it neatly fits with the sudden, opaque, and drastic changes made by DeJoy, a longtime Republican fundraiser and Trump donor, in the less than two months he’s been postmaster general. Like his other changes, including the curtailing of overtime resulting in the widespread mail delays and sudden reorganization of the entire USPS, it is possible to see some semblance of corporate logic while second-guessing the decision to make drastic changes on the eve of the presidential election in which the USPS will play a critical role.

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its all about the mail in ballots
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Vice is a pro-war, fake progressive, hipster, internet platform, staffed by ethno-racists in Brooklyn NY.
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USPS is a time honoured institution.

Trump killing it off for his own selfish reasons, like staying out of prison, is criminal in itself.

Surprised y'all are not in front of the White House with pitch forks to remove the cause of it all.
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USPS is a time honoured institution.

Trump killing it off for his own selfish reasons, like staying out of prison, is criminal in itself.

Surprised y'all are not in front of the White House with pitch forks to remove the cause of it all.
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USPS isn't needed its a waste of tax payer money, mail should be privatized. The smaller the government the better.
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The only people that are going to miss the postal service is the bulk junk mailers
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It is constitutionally mandated....not a private..it has lawful mandates....you people understand what that entails
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It is constitutionally mandated....not a private..it has lawful mandates....you people understand what that entails
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Fuck u f4g

American is a Republic not a democracy. Take your "mandated" commie crap and shove it
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Removing mail sorting machines from US Post Offices as Trump has now ordered, is like taking luggage X-ray machines out of our airports after 9/11. He is leaving us defenseless while our democracy is under attack.
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The only people that are going to miss the postal service is the bulk junk mailers
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How much do you figure UPS will charge for a stamp to mail your mom a birthday card next year?
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Australia, read this

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The only people that are going to miss the postal service is the bulk junk mailers
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How much do you figure UPS will charge for a stamp to mail your mom a birthday card next year?
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Plenty of private curries or just email one like the rest of the world
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Removing mail sorting machines from US Post Offices as Trump has now ordered, is like taking luggage X-ray machines out of our airports after 9/11. He is leaving us defenseless while our democracy is under attack.
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Who is it under attack from?
and what democracy are you talking about?
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No they aren't.

USPS is fine.

Still voting Trump.
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the mail sorting machines are Not a good idea for voting!
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This is fucking insane if true

wtf

Cancel the election

To much corruption
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The Post Office Is Deactivating Mail Sorting Machines Ahead of the Election

The United States Postal Service is removing mail sorting machines from facilities around the country without any official explanation or reason given, Motherboard has learned through interviews with postal workers and union officials. In many cases, these are the same machines that would be tasked with sorting ballots, calling into question promises made by Postmaster General Louis DeJoy that the USPS has “ample capacity” to handle the predicted surge in mail-in ballots.

Motherboard identified 19 mail sorting machines from five processing facilities across the U.S. that either have already been removed or are scheduled to be in the near future. But the Postal Service operates hundreds of distribution facilities around the country, so it is not clear precisely how many machines are getting removed and for what purpose.

Even to local union officials, USPS has not announced any policy, explained why they are doing this, what will happen to the machines and the workers who use them. Nor has management provided a rationale for dismantling and removing the machines from the facility rather than merely not operating them when they’re not needed.

“I’m not sure you’re going to find an answer for why [the machines being removed] makes sense,” said Iowa Postal Workers Union President Kimberly Karol, “because we haven’t figured that out either.”

“Look at it this way: Your local grocery store was forced to cut 1/3 of its cash-out lines, but management expected the same productivity, quality, and speed for the customer,” said an employee at a Buffalo distribution facility, which they said is set to lose six out of 21 mail sorting machines. “It’s just never going to happen.”

While the consequences of this new policy are mostly unclear for now, it neatly fits with the sudden, opaque, and drastic changes made by DeJoy, a longtime Republican fundraiser and Trump donor, in the less than two months he’s been postmaster general. Like his other changes, including the curtailing of overtime resulting in the widespread mail delays and sudden reorganization of the entire USPS, it is possible to see some semblance of corporate logic while second-guessing the decision to make drastic changes on the eve of the presidential election in which the USPS will play a critical role.

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... ????????????????? ...
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... these machines just OCCASIONALLY get used??? ...
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All the lefty unionized mail personnel will "pre-sort" ballots, toss out all the conservative votes. Dead grandpa from Chicago still votes commie as well as dead grandma's kitty cat, Snuggles. That ghost poop in the litter box votes commie too.

Nope, you can't trust any of it until blockchain voting emerges and every voter can verify if their own vote in the chain is utilized, accounted, authenticated, registered and applied.

Screw the election judges at the precinct.
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Thread: JUST IN: Maine congressional delegation demands end to mail delays and answers from Postmaster General DeJoy
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Collins told WGME in Maine she disagrees “very strongly” with Trump on this. “Now is not the time to be cutting back services,” saying she disagrees “very strongly” with the President, calling the Postal Service “absolutely essential.”



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the mail sorting machines are Not a good idea for voting!
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hesright
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the mail sorting machines are Not a good idea for voting!
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hesright
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Why not?

Hand sorting is faster and more accurate?
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The only people that are going to miss the postal service is the bulk junk mailers
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OH fuck off. I didn't have any issues with the USPS until the last 2-3 weeks. I order a fuckload of stuff off the internet and UPS is overpriced as fuck for ground service which is by the way slow as fuck to boot.

USPS has almost always been on time and reliable .
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The only people that are going to miss the postal service is the bulk junk mailers
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OH fuck off. I didn't have any issues with the USPS until the last 2-3 weeks. I order a fuckload of stuff off the internet and UPS is overpriced as fuck for ground service which is by the way slow as fuck to boot.

USPS has almost always been on time and reliable .
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Trump's Postmaster General, owns between $265,000 and $550,000 in UPS stock.

You'll just have to use UPS from here on out. WIth JeJoy's thanks, of course.
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Removing mail sorting machines from US Post Offices as Trump has now ordered, is like taking luggage X-ray machines out of our airports after 9/11. He is leaving us defenseless while our democracy is under attack.
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Indeed. Freedom flag waver
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The only people that are going to miss the postal service is the bulk junk mailers
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How much do you figure UPS will charge for a stamp to mail your mom a birthday card next year?
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Probably a price that is a LOT closer to the actual cost?
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Abolish the USPS, Amtrak, dep EDU, dep energy, all the other DEPs. Especially abolish the FED!
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Vice is a pro-war, fake progressive, hipster, internet platform, staffed by ethno-racists in Brooklyn NY.
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And what of it.

Is the Post Office removing mail sorting machines, or not?
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The Post Office Is Deactivating Mail Sorting Machines Ahead of the Election

The United States Postal Service is removing mail sorting machines from facilities around the country without any official explanation or reason given, Motherboard has learned through interviews with postal workers and union officials. In many cases, these are the same machines that would be tasked with sorting ballots, calling into question promises made by Postmaster General Louis DeJoy that the USPS has “ample capacity” to handle the predicted surge in mail-in ballots.

Motherboard identified 19 mail sorting machines from five processing facilities across the U.S. that either have already been removed or are scheduled to be in the near future. But the Postal Service operates hundreds of distribution facilities around the country, so it is not clear precisely how many machines are getting removed and for what purpose.

Even to local union officials, USPS has not announced any policy, explained why they are doing this, what will happen to the machines and the workers who use them. Nor has management provided a rationale for dismantling and removing the machines from the facility rather than merely not operating them when they’re not needed.

“I’m not sure you’re going to find an answer for why [the machines being removed] makes sense,” said Iowa Postal Workers Union President Kimberly Karol, “because we haven’t figured that out either.”

“Look at it this way: Your local grocery store was forced to cut 1/3 of its cash-out lines, but management expected the same productivity, quality, and speed for the customer,” said an employee at a Buffalo distribution facility, which they said is set to lose six out of 21 mail sorting machines. “It’s just never going to happen.”

While the consequences of this new policy are mostly unclear for now, it neatly fits with the sudden, opaque, and drastic changes made by DeJoy, a longtime Republican fundraiser and Trump donor, in the less than two months he’s been postmaster general. Like his other changes, including the curtailing of overtime resulting in the widespread mail delays and sudden reorganization of the entire USPS, it is possible to see some semblance of corporate logic while second-guessing the decision to make drastic changes on the eve of the presidential election in which the USPS will play a critical role.

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... ????????????????? ...
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... these machines just OCCASIONALLY get used??? ...
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What times of year have the biggest volume of mail?

Christmas, April 15, I'm sure there's more. All year round, just not all the time.

That's when you have to start the machines.

In between they sit there. Waiting.
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Abolish the USPS, Amtrak, dep EDU, dep energy, all the other DEPs. Especially abolish the FED!
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The Fed is a privately owned bank.

Not a government agency.





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