So what you ask? DOOM, that's what- Oh, there's no more bread on the shelves, eat tortillas, or rice, same thing.

It is evident that one can use different brands of cleaner (most of which are almost gone as well I might add, and this is what would be expected... not the complete and total disappearance of one particular long-time brand like we see with 409), therefore, this isn't the point of this thread.

There is a reason why ONLY 409 is MIA and I for one would like to understand why- for it is in the dissection of the minutia that the larger disorder will make itself known.