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Is Jesus God, or the literal son of God?

 
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The same. Jesus is God in human form.
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If he's God how come his named changed from YHWH to Jesus/Yeshua?

How come Revelations says Jesus sits at the right hand of God, if he's indeed God?

Why does Jesus say 'No one gets to the Father except through me'?

Opinions/clarification please...

thanks!
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Some things are beyond human understanding.
Yeshua said, "before Abraham was, I Am" which is God's name. It was at the moment that the pharisees began to plan to kill Him because they understood what He was claiming.
YHWH as creator force cannot be perceived by us because it is not a 'thing'. Yeshua is the mystery manifestation of God that we can see and touch and talk with.
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Jesus is God the father and God the Son of this ONE sector of the creation.
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NOPE. Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD

John 3:16- For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life
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He never claimed to be God, he was the word of God
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John 1:1 - "In the beginning was the Word. And the Word was with God and the Word WAS God. And everything that was made was made by Him, and without Him nothing that was made was made."

Jesus IS GOD. He is the actual WORD OF GOD. EVERY WORD out of God's mouth comes through Jesus. ALL GOD. ALL THREE OF THEM!
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Jesus is God the father and God the Son of this ONE sector of the creation.
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NOPE. Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD

John 3:16- For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life
 Quoting: Baloney


However, also in John somewhere, didn't Jesus say that he and the Father are one?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77639059


They are one, with the HOly Spirit.

There PERSONS, with three distinct JOBS, ONE SOUL.

One heartbeat. ONE.

Jesus sits are the right-hand of the Father, and the Holy Spirit also sits at His right hand. How?

A TRIUNE GOD. A TRINITY....a TRIANGLE.

See?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12343493


Correct... HOLY SPIRIT...

Here One Loves Ye Showing People I Reveal It's Truth...

Many Fakes Out There... They Know Nothing Of Ones Living WORD...

WORD?... Where Ones Receives Direction...

My Word Lives...
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Everyone alive on earth, in some way, is a son or daughter of God. Literally of the DNA origin of the grand architect, the Demiurge. The master craftsman of the three dimensional cosmos we know, and even monitor of the 4th dimension or timesphere. Save for 'Yew' the 'father of christs father', we would be bound to this gods Fate sphere instead of this god being bound to Yew's fate sphere...

Whether or not your a son or daughter of Seth son of Adam, should be the only question on your mind for Salvation. Seth and the seed of seth were bought and redeemed long ago and anyone else who does not qualify for this is under the jurisdiction of the final aeon, housing the Sophia, the vessel of the holy spirit, and her fiery angel of wrath El'eleth. The souls who did not repent in their souls time of Eden, but sometime there after...

The grand architect God Abraxas had many sons and one of his sons who was over venus and the lions portion, Sabaoth, repented to the Pleroma and in so doing he was placed just below the ogdoad at the seat of the 'monad' or 'Heavenly Father'..
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NOPE.. NOPE .. NOPE.. its not the demiurge to start with. there is not grand artchtect God Abrasxas.... and the venus stuff has nothing to do with this world...
 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL


THE WORLD AKA SATAN'S KINGDOM???
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No and I will teach this AGAIN... Satan is not on this world.. he was removed hundreds of years ago. The fallen Prince was Caligastia.. the governor of this world who went into the rebellion with Lucifer. And Lucifer was removed 2000 years ago,,had his trial in the courts of the Ancients of DAYS and was uncreated. Satan was a snitch on Lucifer and a good guy..

When Christ Jesus FIRED Caligastia.. he became for a temporary period the "prince"... we have a new official prince now.. the one that appeared without mother or Father to Abraham.. Machinventa Melchizedek.... all worlds have celestial governors.

Now let me suggest this which I have suggested before... you ones in Christianity.. eating his body .. drinking his blood and covering yourselves in his blood... you have been practicing a ritual in which Christ JESUS was made out to be the devil.. ponder that one.. the satanist dark shits are clever but stupid. Until some years ago CHRIST WAS PRINCE OF THIS WORLD.. Machiventa was VICE PRINCE... You were made to shit on the Prince of this world!!!!!! YOUR CHRIST JESUS.

MACHIVENTA was given the post now of Prince of this World.. he is the governor from the celestial realms.

Do not shit on Christ Jesus by eating his body.. drinking his blood and pouring his blood on you... that is sick.
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WHERE do you GET THIS SHIT?!?!?!?!?
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Jesus is God the father and God the Son of this ONE sector of the creation.
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bsflag bsflag bsflag bsflag

NOPE. Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD

John 3:16- For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life
 Quoting: Baloney


yup, this! ^^

God has many wonderful Names, Name full of AWE.
Yahweh is one of such, but all Glory belongs to GOD.

:jesuschrist:

Jesus is the best son anyone ever had, He is the joy of the Father, and the Father is fully glorified and honored in Jesus. As a father, i say to God : "what a great son you have, the very best of best."

JESUS IS LORD OF MY HEART AND LIFE! And i exhort you to give your life today to Jesus, that is the ONLY way to be saved!
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There are a few clues as to who Jesus actually was that involve things he himself said. You cannot take the words of the apostles as those of Jesus.

Anyway, if Jesus were God or even the son of God, why would he say " my god, why have you forsaken me" while dying on the cross?

Also when Jesus was questioned by Pilate he was asked if he was the son of God by Pilate and Jesus responded " I am who YOU say I am".

If you look a few verses back you will see where Pilate said Jesus was a Revolutionary among the J ws, and guiltless.

Another thing, Jesus never once said he was Gods son, or God. I challenge any Christian to show me where he said this. He referred to himself as the son of MAN and the Lamb of God but never the son of God or God

He also said that with faith were were capable of everything he was.

Remember the walking on water scene?
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Jesus is Tammuz who is Mars, Holy spirit is Semiramis who is Venus, and God is Nimrod who is Saturn. There are many trinities and all represent celestial events Mars, Venus, and Saturn performed in ancient times.
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NOPE. Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD

John 3:16- For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life
 Quoting: Baloney


However, also in John somewhere, didn't Jesus say that he and the Father are one?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77639059


They are one, with the HOly Spirit.

There PERSONS, with three distinct JOBS, ONE SOUL.

One heartbeat. ONE.

Jesus sits are the right-hand of the Father, and the Holy Spirit also sits at His right hand. How?

A TRIUNE GOD. A TRINITY....a TRIANGLE.

See?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12343493


Correct... HOLY SPIRIT...

Here One Loves Ye Showing People I Reveal It's Truth...

Many Fakes Out There... They Know Nothing Of Ones Living WORD...

WORD?... Where Ones Receives Direction...

My Word Lives...
 Quoting: CELT1


The only real trinity is the creator, creation, and the self.
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YAH?... Ye Abba Himself...

YHWH?... Ye Home With Him...

LOVE?... Life's Ones Visual Existence...

I Exist In A Body Of Christ...

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I have an earth name my mother gave to me.. no difference.... My Celestial NAME IS KAN DAEK.

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Quite a coincidence that my celestial name is also Kan Daek. Now if you tell me your earth name is also Candace, I will promptly purchase a lottery ticket!

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If he's God how come his named changed from YHWH to Jesus/Yeshua?

How come Revelations says Jesus sits at the right hand of God, if he's indeed God?

Why does Jesus say 'No one gets to the Father except through me'?

Opinions/clarification please...

thanks!
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Depends on the sect, but most believe both.
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I have an earth name my mother gave to me.. no difference.... My Celestial NAME IS KAN DAEK.

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Quite a coincidence that my celestial name is also Kan Daek. Now if you tell me your earth name is also Candace, I will promptly purchase a lottery ticket!

herethere
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Yes Then Ye Have A Name In The Book Of Life...

Mine Is CELT... Revised From My Earthly Name... It Reveals How Many Times ye Have Lived Before... Mine 46511 = 8


Christ...
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If he's God how come his named changed from YHWH to Jesus/Yeshua?

How come Revelations says Jesus sits at the right hand of God, if he's indeed God?

Why does Jesus say 'No one gets to the Father except through me'?

Opinions/clarification please...

thanks!
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Jesus is God the father and God the Son of this ONE sector of the creation.
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Just stating it, doesn't really clarify things, but thanks.
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Jesus was the Lord God, who is not the Father. That's the mistake ALL people make, even though it is explained quite clearly in the Bible. Its what happens when you allow religion to cloud your mind.

Now read carefully.

Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Jesus even referred to himself as the Lord.

Matthew 21:3 And if any man say ought unto you, ye shall say, The Lord hath need of them; and straightway he will send them.

What is even more laughable, is that theyre whole prophecies throughout the Old Testament about the Lord God coming into the flesh as Jesus.

Micah 1:2-4 Hear, all ye people; hearken, O earth, and all that therein is: and let the Lord God be witness against you, the Lord from his holy temple.
For, behold, the Lord cometh forth out of his place, and will come down, and tread upon the high places of the earth. And the mountains shall be molten under him, and the valleys shall be cleft, as wax before the fire, and as the waters that are poured down a steep place.

Oh and a fair warning, man cannot teach you these things, they can only offer an opinion which they assume is fact. A fatal flaw of the human design that.

1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him

So, rise above it and be anointed by the 'Father' the unknown God that people ignorantly worship, by assuming he is one and the same as the Lord God of the old testament, they're taught to believe in those buildings made with hands, and what they foolishly worship with.

Acts 17:23-25 For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, To The Unknown God. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you. God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;
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If he's God how come his named changed from YHWH to Jesus/Yeshua?

How come Revelations says Jesus sits at the right hand of God, if he's indeed God?

Why does Jesus say 'No one gets to the Father except through me'?

Opinions/clarification please...

thanks!
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Depends on the sect, but most believe both.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76133102


What's ye spirit? What's ye soul?

Ye Exist In A Body... Your SOUL... That Soul Belongs To Christ...

As I Said Until ye spirit and soul become ONE ye Will Not Get To My Father... Understand Now...

SOUL?... Showing Ones Undeniable Love...

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Is Jesus God, or the literal son of God?


Yes and No.

The "story" of Jesus IS YOUR STORY.

God, created Himself as MANKIND.

He did this in order to 'EXPERIENCE His {own]
CREATIION.

You are not your body. Your body is the illusion.
Each one of you are CREATING [just as the Father
did.]

YOU are the one on the cross [metaphore] denying
yourself [who you are] in order that Christ resurrects AS YOU.

Talk about a personal relationship.

You are God......get over it.
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This is what I believe. Your to pick up your own cross and carry it, like Jesus did. We've been lied to by satan since the serpent in the garden of Eden. The cosmos are part of God's vast universe. Those who study alchemy can see and understand this.
We are now entering a new age, the age of aquarius, where TPTB are no longer in power.
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Jesus is God the father and God the Son of this ONE sector of the creation.
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bsflag bsflag bsflag bsflag

NOPE. Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD

John 3:16- For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life
 Quoting: Baloney


yup, this! ^^

God has many wonderful Names, Name full of AWE.
Yahweh is one of such, but all Glory belongs to GOD.

:jesuschrist:

Jesus is the best son anyone ever had, He is the joy of the Father, and the Father is fully glorified and honored in Jesus. As a father, i say to God : "what a great son you have, the very best of best."

JESUS IS LORD OF MY HEART AND LIFE! And i exhort you to give your life today to Jesus, that is the ONLY way to be saved!
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Believe in what he said and taught.

Any fool can believe in a man alone in of itself.

What is wrong with the world today?
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God can.
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Is Jesus God, or the literal son of God?


Yes and No.

The "story" of Jesus IS YOUR STORY.

God, created Himself as MANKIND.

He did this in order to 'EXPERIENCE His {own]
CREATIION.

You are not your body. Your body is the illusion.
Each one of you are CREATING [just as the Father
did.]

YOU are the one on the cross [metaphore] denying
yourself [who you are] in order that Christ resurrects AS YOU.

Talk about a personal relationship.

You are God......get over it.
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This is what I believe. Your to pick up your own cross and carry it, like Jesus did. We've been lied to by satan since the serpent in the garden of Eden. The cosmos are part of God's vast universe. Those who study alchemy can see and understand this.
We are now entering a new age, the age of aquarius, where TPTB are no longer in power.
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As I Said Ye Body Belongs To Christ...

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Jesus is God the father and God the Son of this ONE sector of the creation.
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bsflag bsflag bsflag bsflag

NOPE. Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD

John 3:16- For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life
 Quoting: Baloney


However, also in John somewhere, didn't Jesus say that he and the Father are one?
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"One" , in Greek "hen" which is the neuter form , meaning
"one thing" [united, at unity with one another].
If it was saying they were "one person" it would have had to be the masculine singular form of the adjective.
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Your bible is a book with truth and error and corruptions in it. It is NOT the Word of God.. the GOD KNOWING HUMAN BEING is the word of God on planets like this and as this planet ascends and produces more thinking humans.. so shall these humans manifest the Father on this world.

there are many holy books on this world that are far better truth wise than your book.

The WORD IS THINKING.. not a book. Grow up and become part of the WORD on this world.
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You will not find truth in ALL IS ONE IS ALL.

KJV 1 Timothy 4:1-2
1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

KJV Matthew 7:15
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

KJV Psalm 12:6-8
6 The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

7 Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

8 The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted.
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1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.

7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.

8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
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The Name JESUS?

Jerusalem Exiting Slavery Under Salvation...

Jerusalem The Name Of This World...
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If he's God how come his named changed from YHWH to Jesus/Yeshua?

How come Revelations says Jesus sits at the right hand of God, if he's indeed God?

Why does Jesus say 'No one gets to the Father except through me'?

Opinions/clarification please...

thanks!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77639059


Depends on the sect, but most believe both.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76133102


What's ye spirit? What's ye soul?

Ye Exist In A Body... Your SOUL... That Soul Belongs To Christ...

As I Said Until ye spirit and soul become ONE ye Will Not Get To My Father... Understand Now...

SOUL?... Showing Ones Undeniable Love...
 Quoting: CELT1


Luke 21:19 In your patience possess ye your souls.

So why did christ tell people to possess their own soul, and why does God divide asunder the spirit and soul, especially since Jesus said God is a spirit and must be worshipped in the spirit.

Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

You instead worship the soul, why because the soul loves itself and desires your worship, and this is how it possess the spirit in a man, leaving it blind to the knowledge of itself.
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I like theological discussion, this is sophomoric.
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If he's God how come his named changed from YHWH to Jesus/Yeshua?

How come Revelations says Jesus sits at the right hand of God, if he's indeed God?

Why does Jesus say 'No one gets to the Father except through me'?

Opinions/clarification please...

thanks!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77639059


Depends on the sect, but most believe both.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76133102


What's ye spirit? What's ye soul?

Ye Exist In A Body... Your SOUL... That Soul Belongs To Christ...

As I Said Until ye spirit and soul become ONE ye Will Not Get To My Father... Understand Now...

SOUL?... Showing Ones Undeniable Love...
 Quoting: CELT1


Luke 21:19 In your patience possess ye your souls.

So why did christ tell people to possess their own soul, and why does God divide asunder the spirit and soul, especially since Jesus said God is a spirit and must be worshipped in the spirit.

Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

You instead worship the soul, why because the soul loves itself and desires your worship, and this is how it possess the spirit in a man, leaving it blind to the knowledge of itself.
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Yes Possess Ye Soul...

EARTH?... Everyone Abba Reveals Truth Here...
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Depends on the sect, but most believe both.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76133102


What's ye spirit? What's ye soul?

Ye Exist In A Body... Your SOUL... That Soul Belongs To Christ...

As I Said Until ye spirit and soul become ONE ye Will Not Get To My Father... Understand Now...

SOUL?... Showing Ones Undeniable Love...
 Quoting: CELT1


Luke 21:19 In your patience possess ye your souls.

So why did christ tell people to possess their own soul, and why does God divide asunder the spirit and soul, especially since Jesus said God is a spirit and must be worshipped in the spirit.

Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

You instead worship the soul, why because the soul loves itself and desires your worship, and this is how it possess the spirit in a man, leaving it blind to the knowledge of itself.
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Yes Possess Ye Soul...

EARTH?... Everyone Abba Reveals Truth Here...
 Quoting: CELT1


The straight and narrow path refers to a way of perceiving.

In short, think in terms of the spirit nkt the flesh.

Overcomjng the world has nothing to do with this earth nor anything of it.


You spirit was originally from heaven, so go within and centre yourself in it. Make that eye single.
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Re: Is Jesus God, or the literal son of God?
Yes Seek The Spirit Of Truth For Its Not Of This World...

This World Is What Ye Soul Is Created From...
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Re: Is Jesus God, or the literal son of God?
Advent of the Messiah as the Son of Man, and as the Seed of Abraham. Abraham having eaten of the Living Bread, the Living Bread, as already indicated, became through the operation of physical laws part of his flesh; wherefore, by the power of God, it, the Living Bread, was brought forth into the world a manifest physical presence as the flesh and seed of Abraham; even as woman (see Gen. ii. 21-23) was brought forth into the world, by the same Power, from the flesh of Adam as a manifest physical presence.

From these conditions indications follow that, at this time, the Living Bread became the seed of Abraham, and that the seed of Abraham (see Gal. iii. 16) is the Messiah as the Son of man (see, also, Gen. iii. 16); hence the Messiah made his advent as the Son of man (see St. john viii. 56-58) in the day of Abraham.

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