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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79233079 Australia 08/14/2020 06:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Serious question. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79233079 Capitalism is obviously bad so the economy can't be based on capitalist ideals. Which country espouses all the ideals of socialism? Australia is ok Norway Germany Sweden Holland All the countries that made America to be precise. not one of those is socialist. Americans might say they are but they are all capitalist systems with higher taxation to provide social safety nets. Dude ....you are missing the point People want to pay 50$ a month a be able to go to any doc they want.And not pay student loans all their life's...No one wants the irrational. Not missing the point at all. It is my thread not yours. If socialism is so good then tell me. Social safety nets is not socialism because without the capitalist system there wouldn't be the taxes to pay for the socialist bits everyone wants. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78477393 Belgium 08/14/2020 06:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People say social safety nets are good. Nobody says full blown socialism or communism is good besides a few yound idealists. Even a guy like Sanders who considers himself a socialist doesn't want to get rid of capitalism entirely. Just tax companies more and make them more accountable. Which honestly isn't a bad thing |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69296603 United Kingdom 08/14/2020 06:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So no shortages of goods or social unrest?? Economy built on oil, or at least it was. Yes, free stuff always good. Listen to yourself, even your big socialist bogey man is only in trouble because of outside interference from greedy capitalist nations like the US. Venezuelan's oil and other natural resources are absolutely enough to fund their socialist policies, but US can't have that so they are crippling the country so idiots like you can say 'caring for your population = bad' and the greedy fuckers that run our economic systems can earn a few more billion that they are never going to be able to spend. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78477393 Belgium 08/14/2020 06:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Doesn't get more socialist than this, literal free money. Yet I don't see many conservatives claiming the Emirates are a socialist hellhole, because they are rich. Hypocrisy much? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79233079 Australia 08/14/2020 06:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So no shortages of goods or social unrest?? Economy built on oil, or at least it was. Yes, free stuff always good. Listen to yourself, even your big socialist bogey man is only in trouble because of outside interference from greedy capitalist nations like the US. Venezuelan's oil and other natural resources are absolutely enough to fund their socialist policies, but US can't have that so they are crippling the country so idiots like you can say 'caring for your population = bad' and the greedy fuckers that run our economic systems can earn a few more billion that they are never going to be able to spend. So socialism is good when they can sell their natural resources to capitalist societies?? Got it Is there another example? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25479210 United States 08/14/2020 06:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Germany. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79015503 All have higher incomes and freedom index scores than USA. That's a crock of shit. Those countries are about to be overthrown by Muslims. Their women & children are being raped by Muslims and the men are too chicken shit to defend them. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79233079 Australia 08/14/2020 06:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you think about it, the Emirates are actually socialist countries. They are tribes in a modern world, the tribe IS the govenrment. The tribe gives any national a lot of free money coming from the revenue of the companies owned by the tribe. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78477393 Doesn't get more socialist than this, literal free money. Yet I don't see many conservatives claiming the Emirates are a socialist hellhole, because they are rich. Hypocrisy much? Sure, good example. Without all that oil money how will they be when the world goes green? Seems ironic that socialism only works when a country is blessed with natural resources and the government can exploit the resources by selling to the capitalist economies. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78477393 Belgium 08/14/2020 06:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you think about it, the Emirates are actually socialist countries. They are tribes in a modern world, the tribe IS the govenrment. The tribe gives any national a lot of free money coming from the revenue of the companies owned by the tribe. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78477393 Doesn't get more socialist than this, literal free money. Yet I don't see many conservatives claiming the Emirates are a socialist hellhole, because they are rich. Hypocrisy much? Sure, good example. Without all that oil money how will they be when the world goes green? Seems ironic that socialism only works when a country is blessed with natural resources and the government can exploit the resources by selling to the capitalist economies. You must have missed my previous answer where I state I happily finance my social safety with 40% income tax. Funny how you cherry pick what you answer to. Don't worry your blatant sophistry is noticed. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69993567 Netherlands 08/14/2020 06:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are no true capitalist countries on Earth right now. Nowhere close. Quoting: Daozen Western countries are very socialist right now, with only a thin layer of free market capitalism obscuring the true nature of the beast. The debate is meaningless until you define the proper terms. Insightful remark, I like the cut of your jib. Prepare to be ignored though, GLP shuns intelligence. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79178057 United States 08/14/2020 06:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Serious question. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79233079 Capitalism is obviously bad so the economy can't be based on capitalist ideals. Which country espouses all the ideals of socialism? Capitalism has failed the USA where everyone sold out the country for greed and then wonder why it is turning into a third world country. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74511374 United States 08/14/2020 07:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71191847 Australia is ok Norway Germany Sweden Holland All the countries that made America to be precise. not one of those is socialist. Americans might say they are but they are all capitalist systems with higher taxation to provide social safety nets. Dude ....you are missing the point People want to pay 50$ a month a be able to go to any doc they want.And not pay student loans all their life's...No one wants the irrational. Not missing the point at all. It is my thread not yours. If socialism is so good then tell me. Social safety nets is not socialism because without the capitalist system there wouldn't be the taxes to pay for the socialist bits everyone wants. Are you fucking retarded? Without the trees and leafs you wouldn't have air to breathe Which btw capitalism or any system is destroying rapidly.Who pays for public school? You think ppl in europe live like Kings? The basics are covered Er,hospital,school after school...you want your kid in soccer? In karate? That's 50 a month...fuck your thread "It's my thread" Fucking Nimrod |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79178057 United States 08/14/2020 07:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If capitalism is so good why do we rely on socialist china for so many products? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77996452 Because capitalists like to socialize the costs and privatize the profits. How come we are in bed with so many communist countries like vietnam? Because worker and pollution rights are nonexistent. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8296838 United States 08/14/2020 07:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79233079 not one of those is socialist. Americans might say they are but they are all capitalist systems with higher taxation to provide social safety nets. Dude ....you are missing the point People want to pay 50$ a month a be able to go to any doc they want.And not pay student loans all their life's...No one wants the irrational. Not missing the point at all. It is my thread not yours. If socialism is so good then tell me. Social safety nets is not socialism because without the capitalist system there wouldn't be the taxes to pay for the socialist bits everyone wants. Are you fucking retarded? Without the trees and leafs you wouldn't have air to breathe Which btw capitalism or any system is destroying rapidly.Who pays for public school? You think ppl in europe live like Kings? The basics are covered Er,hospital,school after school...you want your kid in soccer? In karate? That's 50 a month...fuck your thread "It's my thread" Fucking Nimrod You don't get to go to any Dr you want... You get to go on a waiting list and you might get to see the shittiest Dr around in 6 months, while the rich people pay a few hundred out of pocket to see at real Dr that same day. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79178057 United States 08/14/2020 07:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So no shortages of goods or social unrest?? Economy built on oil, or at least it was. Yes, free stuff always good. Venezuela was doing well until we told them via military force they cannot sell to the rest of the world. If China blockaded our country via military force and said the USA can trade with no country on the planet, people would be foaming at the mouth with fists raised pushing for war. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74511374 United States 08/14/2020 07:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If capitalism is so good why do we rely on socialist china for so many products? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77996452 Because capitalists like to socialize the costs and privatize the profits. How come we are in bed with so many communist countries like vietnam? Because worker and pollution rights are nonexistent. That's what happens when you didn't invent shit in human history Except the fucking rice hat maybe |
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KuvaszLove User ID: 76863067 United States 08/14/2020 07:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I worked for a German co. Here in U.S. and it was great for a couple years. I was overpaid, full benefits & 6 weeks paid vacation my first year. Company began to go downhill but $$ never did so I stayed. After a while I did nothing, still got $$ at first I got creative with my time ( joining user groups, webinars, training, broaden my job description) but co. Was downhill but we still got $$$ and I was up to 9 weeks pd. Vacation. (This is the problem with foreigners, they come here physically but mentally remain where they came). Simultaneously my house gets sold to Asians (Chinese) and they are pissed i rent a 4 bedroom house for 3 people ( units they say, why 4 units for 3 people?) It made them mental. I really got my share of communism / socialism! I scream to both my landlord & CFO, America is capitalist country- why are you here? I am not going to live like communism with units & regulated space in my home I pay $$ for.long story short, I moved & my German co. Got very toxic then bankrupt! ( this is before Covid) my old house has a big for rent sign. communism & socialism don't work!!! Staying as long as I did for $$ & vacation deaden my career, though I realized before the bankruptcy and made a job change for less money and make a great career change Stay goal focused & capitalistic driven no matter how tempting the free stuff gets! |