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If socialism is so good then which socialist country should I move to?

 
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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08/14/2020 06:07 AM
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Re: If socialism is so good then which socialist country should I move to?
Serious question.

Capitalism is obviously bad so the economy can't be based on capitalist ideals. Which country espouses all the ideals of socialism?
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Australia is ok
Norway
Germany
Sweden
Holland

All the countries that made America to be precise.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71191847


not one of those is socialist. Americans might say they are but they are all capitalist systems with higher taxation to provide social safety nets.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79233079


Dude ....you are missing the point
People want to pay 50$ a month a be able to go to any doc they want.And not pay student loans all their life's...No one wants the irrational.
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Not missing the point at all. It is my thread not yours. If socialism is so good then tell me. Social safety nets is not socialism because without the capitalist system there wouldn't be the taxes to pay for the socialist bits everyone wants.
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08/14/2020 06:09 AM
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Re: If socialism is so good then which socialist country should I move to?
the U.S. baby
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08/14/2020 06:10 AM
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Re: If socialism is so good then which socialist country should I move to?
If socialism is so good then tell me.
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Who said this?

I think you are extremely disingenuous and manipulative
Anonymous Coward
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08/14/2020 06:14 AM
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Re: If socialism is so good then which socialist country should I move to?
People say social safety nets are good.

Nobody says full blown socialism or communism is good besides a few yound idealists.

Even a guy like Sanders who considers himself a socialist doesn't want to get rid of capitalism entirely.

Just tax companies more and make them more accountable.

Which honestly isn't a bad thing
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08/14/2020 06:14 AM
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Re: If socialism is so good then which socialist country should I move to?
Venezuela.

The government will give you free housing there.
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So no shortages of goods or social unrest??
Economy built on oil, or at least it was.

Yes, free stuff always good.
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Listen to yourself, even your big socialist bogey man is only in trouble because of outside interference from greedy capitalist nations like the US. Venezuelan's oil and other natural resources are absolutely enough to fund their socialist policies, but US can't have that so they are crippling the country so idiots like you can say 'caring for your population = bad' and the greedy fuckers that run our economic systems can earn a few more billion that they are never going to be able to spend.
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08/14/2020 06:18 AM
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Re: If socialism is so good then which socialist country should I move to?
If you think about it, the Emirates are actually socialist countries. They are tribes in a modern world, the tribe IS the govenrment. The tribe gives any national a lot of free money coming from the revenue of the companies owned by the tribe.

Doesn't get more socialist than this, literal free money.


Yet I don't see many conservatives claiming the Emirates are a socialist hellhole, because they are rich.

Hypocrisy much?
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08/14/2020 06:31 AM
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Re: If socialism is so good then which socialist country should I move to?
Venezuela.

The government will give you free housing there.
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So no shortages of goods or social unrest??
Economy built on oil, or at least it was.

Yes, free stuff always good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79233079


Listen to yourself, even your big socialist bogey man is only in trouble because of outside interference from greedy capitalist nations like the US. Venezuelan's oil and other natural resources are absolutely enough to fund their socialist policies, but US can't have that so they are crippling the country so idiots like you can say 'caring for your population = bad' and the greedy fuckers that run our economic systems can earn a few more billion that they are never going to be able to spend.
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So socialism is good when they can sell their natural resources to capitalist societies??

Got it

Is there another example?
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08/14/2020 06:33 AM
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Re: If socialism is so good then which socialist country should I move to?
Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Germany.
All have higher incomes and freedom index scores than USA.
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That's a crock of shit. Those countries are about to be overthrown by Muslims. Their women & children are being raped by Muslims and the men are too chicken shit to defend them.
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08/14/2020 06:33 AM
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Re: If socialism is so good then which socialist country should I move to?
If you think about it, the Emirates are actually socialist countries. They are tribes in a modern world, the tribe IS the govenrment. The tribe gives any national a lot of free money coming from the revenue of the companies owned by the tribe.

Doesn't get more socialist than this, literal free money.


Yet I don't see many conservatives claiming the Emirates are a socialist hellhole, because they are rich.

Hypocrisy much?
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Sure, good example.

Without all that oil money how will they be when the world goes green?

Seems ironic that socialism only works when a country is blessed with natural resources and the government can exploit the resources by selling to the capitalist economies.
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08/14/2020 06:37 AM
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Re: If socialism is so good then which socialist country should I move to?
So socialism is good
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Who says this?

Why do you refuse to answer this?

Is it because nobody actually says full socialism is good?
Anonymous Coward
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08/14/2020 06:37 AM
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Re: If socialism is so good then which socialist country should I move to?
New Zealand

Some parts of Australia appear to be socialist but the country is anything but.
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08/14/2020 06:38 AM
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Re: If socialism is so good then which socialist country should I move to?
If you think about it, the Emirates are actually socialist countries. They are tribes in a modern world, the tribe IS the govenrment. The tribe gives any national a lot of free money coming from the revenue of the companies owned by the tribe.

Doesn't get more socialist than this, literal free money.


Yet I don't see many conservatives claiming the Emirates are a socialist hellhole, because they are rich.

Hypocrisy much?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78477393


Sure, good example.

Without all that oil money how will they be when the world goes green?

Seems ironic that socialism only works when a country is blessed with natural resources and the government can exploit the resources by selling to the capitalist economies.
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You must have missed my previous answer where I state I happily finance my social safety with 40% income tax.

Funny how you cherry pick what you answer to.

Don't worry your blatant sophistry is noticed.
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08/14/2020 06:43 AM
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Re: If socialism is so good then which socialist country should I move to?
Socialism for the upper 1 percent has been great = capitalism in USA. Just stay.
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08/14/2020 06:47 AM
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Re: If socialism is so good then which socialist country should I move to?
If capitalism is so good why do we rely on socialist china for so many products?
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COMMUNIST CHINA dumbass
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08/14/2020 06:50 AM
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Re: If socialism is so good then which socialist country should I move to?
Scandinavia is a beautiful place, but the price to pay are the dark winters. You get a small window of daylight from 9am to 3pm for a solid two months and thats the south part of the country. I lived in Oslo once from January to April, I couldn't wait to get out. A lot of Norwegians don't live there in the winter, they go to Colorado or other spots sunnier.
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Re: If socialism is so good then which socialist country should I move to?
If you like Socialism
Denmark would be your choice
I live here
It's Terrible!!!!
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08/14/2020 06:51 AM
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Re: If socialism is so good then which socialist country should I move to?
You have an Australian flag.
You're in one.

Stay there.
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The chattering classes

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08/14/2020 06:58 AM
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Re: If socialism is so good then which socialist country should I move to?
There are no true capitalist countries on Earth right now. Nowhere close.

Western countries are very socialist right now, with only a thin layer of free market capitalism obscuring the true nature of the beast.

The debate is meaningless until you define the proper terms.
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Insightful remark, I like the cut of your jib.

Prepare to be ignored though, GLP shuns intelligence.
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08/14/2020 06:59 AM
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Re: If socialism is so good then which socialist country should I move to?
Serious question.

Capitalism is obviously bad so the economy can't be based on capitalist ideals. Which country espouses all the ideals of socialism?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79233079


Capitalism has failed the USA where everyone sold out the country for greed and then wonder why it is turning into a third world country.
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08/14/2020 07:01 AM
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Re: If socialism is so good then which socialist country should I move to?
You have an Australian flag.
You're in one.

Stay there.
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Shit and clay.

Learn to discern.
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08/14/2020 07:03 AM
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Re: If socialism is so good then which socialist country should I move to?
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Australia is ok
Norway
Germany
Sweden
Holland

All the countries that made America to be precise.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71191847


not one of those is socialist. Americans might say they are but they are all capitalist systems with higher taxation to provide social safety nets.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79233079


Dude ....you are missing the point
People want to pay 50$ a month a be able to go to any doc they want.And not pay student loans all their life's...No one wants the irrational.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71191847



Not missing the point at all. It is my thread not yours. If socialism is so good then tell me. Social safety nets is not socialism because without the capitalist system there wouldn't be the taxes to pay for the socialist bits everyone wants.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79233079


Are you fucking retarded?
Without the trees and leafs you wouldn't have air to breathe
Which btw capitalism or any system is destroying rapidly.Who pays for public school?
You think ppl in europe live like Kings?
The basics are covered
Er,hospital,school after school...you want your kid in soccer? In karate? That's 50 a month...fuck your thread
"It's my thread"
Fucking Nimrod
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08/14/2020 07:05 AM
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Re: If socialism is so good then which socialist country should I move to?
If capitalism is so good why do we rely on socialist china for so many products?
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Because capitalists like to socialize the costs and privatize the profits.

How come we are in bed with so many communist countries like vietnam? Because worker and pollution rights are nonexistent.
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08/14/2020 07:07 AM
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Re: If socialism is so good then which socialist country should I move to?
China 40 years ago
Had to work hard to get a bycicle
Nixon comes in and bam
Move everything there
We get rich
Fuck the future
Fuck america
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08/14/2020 07:08 AM
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Re: If socialism is so good then which socialist country should I move to?
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not one of those is socialist. Americans might say they are but they are all capitalist systems with higher taxation to provide social safety nets.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79233079


Dude ....you are missing the point
People want to pay 50$ a month a be able to go to any doc they want.And not pay student loans all their life's...No one wants the irrational.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71191847



Not missing the point at all. It is my thread not yours. If socialism is so good then tell me. Social safety nets is not socialism because without the capitalist system there wouldn't be the taxes to pay for the socialist bits everyone wants.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79233079


Are you fucking retarded?
Without the trees and leafs you wouldn't have air to breathe
Which btw capitalism or any system is destroying rapidly.Who pays for public school?
You think ppl in europe live like Kings?
The basics are covered
Er,hospital,school after school...you want your kid in soccer? In karate? That's 50 a month...fuck your thread
"It's my thread"
Fucking Nimrod
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74511374


You don't get to go to any Dr you want... You get to go on a waiting list and you might get to see the shittiest Dr around in 6 months, while the rich people pay a few hundred out of pocket to see at real Dr that same day.
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Re: If socialism is so good then which socialist country should I move to?
Venezuela.

The government will give you free housing there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77430620


So no shortages of goods or social unrest??
Economy built on oil, or at least it was.

Yes, free stuff always good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79233079


Venezuela was doing well until we told them via military force they cannot sell to the rest of the world.

If China blockaded our country via military force and said the USA can trade with no country on the planet, people would be foaming at the mouth with fists raised pushing for war.
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Re: If socialism is so good then which socialist country should I move to?
If capitalism is so good why do we rely on socialist china for so many products?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77996452


Because capitalists like to socialize the costs and privatize the profits.

How come we are in bed with so many communist countries like vietnam? Because worker and pollution rights are nonexistent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79178057


That's what happens when you didn't invent shit in human history
Except the fucking rice hat maybe
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Re: If socialism is so good then which socialist country should I move to?
"If socialism is so good"

What are you basing this assumption on, OP?

It would be a shame if your whole argument is based on a wrong assumption
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Re: If socialism is so good then which socialist country should I move to?
I worked for a German co. Here in U.S. and it was great for a couple years. I was overpaid, full benefits & 6 weeks paid vacation my first year. Company began to go downhill but $$ never did so I stayed.
After a while I did nothing, still got $$ at first I got creative with my time ( joining user groups, webinars, training, broaden my job description) but co. Was downhill but we still got $$$ and I was up to 9 weeks pd. Vacation. (This is the problem with foreigners, they come here physically but mentally remain where they came). Simultaneously my house gets sold to Asians (Chinese) and they are pissed i rent a 4 bedroom house for 3 people ( units they say, why 4 units for 3 people?)
It made them mental. I really got my share of communism / socialism! I scream to both my landlord & CFO, America is capitalist country- why are you here? I am not going to live like communism with units & regulated space in my home I pay $$ for.long story short, I moved & my German co. Got very toxic then bankrupt! ( this is before Covid) my old house has a big for rent sign. communism & socialism don't work!!! Staying as long as I did for $$ & vacation deaden my career, though I realized before the bankruptcy and made a job change for less money and make a great career change
Stay goal focused & capitalistic driven no matter how tempting the free stuff gets!





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