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Article on prior corona virus vaccine trial failures over the years. Vaccine produced the wrong type of antibodies, death

 
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"Coronavirus Vaccine May Be a Disaster Waiting to Happen

Kennedy goes on to summarize the history of coronavirus vaccine development, which began after three SARS epidemics had broken out, starting in early 2002.

“The first one was a natural epidemic that had moved from bats to human beings. The second two were lab-created organisms where people were experimenting with the coronavirus … That’s noncontroversial. Everybody accepts that.

The Chinese, the Americans, the Europeans all got together and said, ‘We need to develop a vaccine against coronavirus.’ Around 2012, they had about 30 vaccines that looked promising. They took the four best of those and … manufactured the vaccines. They gave those vaccines to ferrets, which are the closest analogy when you’re looking at lung infections in human beings.

The ferrets had an extraordinarily good antibody response, and that is the metric by which FDA licenses vaccines. Vaccines, as you know, are never tested in the field. They never give 5,000 people the vaccine, 5,000 people a placebo vaccine, and then tell them to go out and live life and watch what happens to those people. That never happens.

The way that vaccines get licensed is that FDA gives people a vaccine or the industry gives them the vaccines, and then they do a serological response [test to] see ‘Did you develop in your blood antibodies to that target virus?’ The ferrets developed very strong antibodies, so they thought, ‘We hit the jackpot.’ All four of these vaccines … worked like a charm.

Then something terrible happened. Those ferrets were then exposed to the wild virus, and they all died. [They developed] inflammation in all their organs, their lungs stopped functioning and they died.

Then those scientists remembered that the same thing had happened in the 1960s when they tried to develop an RSV vaccine, which is an upper respiratory illness very similar to coronavirus.

At the time, they did not test it on animals. They went right to human testing. They tested it on I think about 35 children, and the same thing happened. The children developed a champion antibody response, robust, durable. It looked perfect, and then the children were exposed to the wild virus and they all became sick. Two of them died. They abandoned the vaccine. It was a big embarrassment to FDA and NIH …

Those scientists in 2012 remembered that, and they said, ‘This is the same thing that happened [back then].’ So, they look closer and they realize that there are two kinds of antibodies that were being produced by the coronavirus. There are neutralizing antibodies, which are the kind you want, which fight the disease, and then there are binding antibodies.

The binding antibodies actually create a pathway for the disease in your body, and they trigger something called … a paradoxical immune response or paradoxical immune enhancement. What that means is that it looks good until you get the disease, and then it makes the disease much, much worse …

Coronavirus vaccines can be very dangerous, and that’s why even our enemies, people who hate you and me — Peter Hotez, Paul Offit, Ian Lipkin — are all saying, ‘You got to be really, really careful with this vaccine.’”

Dengue Vaccine Led to Criminal Prosecution

According to Kennedy, the same thing happened in 2014 with the dengue vaccine DENVax, which Fauci owns the patent on. “They knew from the clinical trials that there was a problem with paradoxical immune response,” Kennedy says, but they gave it to several hundred thousand Filipino kids anyway.

They got a great immune response from the vaccine, but those exposed to wild dengue got horribly sick and 600 of the children died. “Today, the Philippine government is prosecuting criminally a bunch of the people locally who were involved in that decision,” Kennedy says.".......

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You might want to use the Indian children in the Villages on the shores of Hudson Bay for that. I would suspect the ones with mold growing on their face would be the best 'candidates' and the samples can be collected on spot so they do not have to be taken away, . . never to return. (as has happened so often in the past, you wouldn't like the reason, trust me on this one)
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Vaccines NEVER worked, they are garbage and a tool to sterilize and sicken the public for depopulation. PRETTY OBVIOUS AT THIS POINT.
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Great find, AC160, thanks!
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Vaccines NEVER worked, they are garbage and a tool to sterilize and sicken the public for depopulation. PRETTY OBVIOUS AT THIS POINT.
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Get Fauci and Gates to take the vaccine in an independent trial, then expose them to the real virus.
Maybe have the Russians run the trials? Be interesting to see how quick they would roll up their sleeves Haha.
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This is why they want to force it on us because they know we won't willingly take something that makes us deathly ill or kills us. I am sure libtards being the gullible media brainwashed fools they are will line up to get the shot of death then say "see I am just fine" a few hours later on the internet. A few weeks later they are in the hospital or dead from the corona and the unvaccinated are blamed rather the vaccine not working properly to begin with. That's how these globalists will twist it to force and trick even more people into taking something that's not good for them. Remember this libtards it's the vaccine that did not work. It's not the unvaccinated fault your vaccination didn't work as advertised. More vaccinated will not change the outcome of it not working. All that does is create more deathly ill and dead people.
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It wasn't a Trump ® brand vaxx though, was it??
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The actual study:

"Immunization with SARS Coronavirus Vaccines Leads to Pulmonary Immunopathology on Challenge with the SARS Virus"

[link to journals.plos.org (secure)]



Essentially they vaccinated lab animals. Took a look at their immune cells. The immune cells appeared great and robust and immune to the SARs-COV virus.

They waited, took those same vaccinated lab animals and exposed them to the actual virus and waited to see what would happen.

What happened:
They all died. Their own immune systems went into overdrive when exposed to the virus after vaccination. Their own immune systems attacked their bodies and killed them.
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You can't vaccinate the corona virus away.
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There are 30 plus and growing different constantly mutating strains of covid so you are only being vaccinated against one strain of it and that vaccination probably won't work.
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The actual study:

"Immunization with SARS Coronavirus Vaccines Leads to Pulmonary Immunopathology on Challenge with the SARS Virus"

[link to journals.plos.org (secure)]



Essentially they vaccinated lab animals. Took a look at their immune cells. The immune cells appeared great and robust and immune to the SARs-COV virus.

They waited, took those same vaccinated lab animals and exposed them to the actual virus and waited to see what would happen.

What happened:
They all died. Their own immune systems went into overdrive when exposed to the virus after vaccination. Their own immune systems attacked their bodies and killed them.
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Thank you for this information and link
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See, these are the kind of threads that should have 50+ pages.

Because its ACTUAL hardcore info with real proof of the impending doom of the COVID vaccine that will be forced on everyone.


Not some bullshit thread with fail predictions and BS fantasy land info.
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Also...does it say how long the ferrets lived after developing antibodies and improving their condition? Months? Just curious.
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500,000 kids paralyzed from Gates vaccine in India should have been enough to have him removed from the planet.

Musk can send him to Mars.
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Added to favorites,may need this. Thanks OP.
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The actual study:

"Immunization with SARS Coronavirus Vaccines Leads to Pulmonary Immunopathology on Challenge with the SARS Virus"

[link to journals.plos.org (secure)]



Essentially they vaccinated lab animals. Took a look at their immune cells. The immune cells appeared great and robust and immune to the SARs-COV virus.

They waited, took those same vaccinated lab animals and exposed them to the actual virus and waited to see what would happen.

What happened:
They all died. Their own immune systems went into overdrive when exposed to the virus after vaccination. Their own immune systems attacked their bodies and killed them.
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Maybe they already added Coronavirus vaccine to flu vaccines this year? It could explain those deaths.
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500,000 kids paralyzed from Gates vaccine in India should have been enough to have him removed from the planet.

Musk can send him to Mars.
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maybe

I'd settle for them both being without access to computers or msm for a year
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Also...does it say how long the ferrets lived after developing antibodies and improving their condition? Months? Just curious.
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Doubt the vaccinated ferrets experienced much plus or minus from the vaccine until they were exposed to the virus they were supposed to be protected against. Then they died from what the vaccine had altered in their immune system. Bet unvaccinated ferrets, if exposed to the virus, would simply have had a short term cold.
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Interesting...Less than 50%
.......

"Coronavirus Vaccine May Be a Disaster Waiting to Happen

Kennedy goes on to summarize the history of coronavirus vaccine development, which began after three SARS epidemics had broken out, starting in early 2002.

“The first one was a natural epidemic that had moved from bats to human beings. The second two were lab-created organisms where people were experimenting with the coronavirus … That’s noncontroversial. Everybody accepts that.

The Chinese, the Americans, the Europeans all got together and said, ‘We need to develop a vaccine against coronavirus.’ Around 2012, they had about 30 vaccines that looked promising. They took the four best of those and … manufactured the vaccines. They gave those vaccines to ferrets, which are the closest analogy when you’re looking at lung infections in human beings.

The ferrets had an extraordinarily good antibody response, and that is the metric by which FDA licenses vaccines. Vaccines, as you know, are never tested in the field. They never give 5,000 people the vaccine, 5,000 people a placebo vaccine, and then tell them to go out and live life and watch what happens to those people. That never happens.

The way that vaccines get licensed is that FDA gives people a vaccine or the industry gives them the vaccines, and then they do a serological response [test to] see ‘Did you develop in your blood antibodies to that target virus?’ The ferrets developed very strong antibodies, so they thought, ‘We hit the jackpot.’ All four of these vaccines … worked like a charm.

Then something terrible happened. Those ferrets were then exposed to the wild virus, and they all died. [They developed] inflammation in all their organs, their lungs stopped functioning and they died.

Then those scientists remembered that the same thing had happened in the 1960s when they tried to develop an RSV vaccine, which is an upper respiratory illness very similar to coronavirus.

At the time, they did not test it on animals. They went right to human testing. They tested it on I think about 35 children, and the same thing happened. The children developed a champion antibody response, robust, durable. It looked perfect, and then the children were exposed to the wild virus and they all became sick. Two of them died. They abandoned the vaccine. It was a big embarrassment to FDA and NIH …

Those scientists in 2012 remembered that, and they said, ‘This is the same thing that happened [back then].’ So, they look closer and they realize that there are two kinds of antibodies that were being produced by the coronavirus. There are neutralizing antibodies, which are the kind you want, which fight the disease, and then there are binding antibodies.

The binding antibodies actually create a pathway for the disease in your body, and they trigger something called … a paradoxical immune response or paradoxical immune enhancement. What that means is that it looks good until you get the disease, and then it makes the disease much, much worse …

Coronavirus vaccines can be very dangerous, and that’s why even our enemies, people who hate you and me — Peter Hotez, Paul Offit, Ian Lipkin — are all saying, ‘You got to be really, really careful with this vaccine.’”

Dengue Vaccine Led to Criminal Prosecution

According to Kennedy, the same thing happened in 2014 with the dengue vaccine DENVax, which Fauci owns the patent on. “They knew from the clinical trials that there was a problem with paradoxical immune response,” Kennedy says, but they gave it to several hundred thousand Filipino kids anyway.

They got a great immune response from the vaccine, but those exposed to wild dengue got horribly sick and 600 of the children died. “Today, the Philippine government is prosecuting criminally a bunch of the people locally who were involved in that decision,” Kennedy says.".......

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well you can debate it all you want, til you get the vaccine and die, then debate/reflection time is over.

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There are 30 plus and growing different constantly mutating strains of covid so you are only being vaccinated against one strain of it and that vaccination probably won't work.
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or it works too well and your own immune system kills you

that's what actually kills you in pneumonia, your own immune system. your lungs are inflamed to the point you suffocate
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Wow...

Northern Italy had mass flu immunization, China had mass immunization before Dec 1st, nearly EVERY elderly in the US is immunized every year.

Who is most likely to die from this covid? Immunized people.
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Also...does it say how long the ferrets lived after developing antibodies and improving their condition? Months? Just curious.
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Doubt the vaccinated ferrets experienced much plus or minus from the vaccine until they were exposed to the virus they were supposed to be protected against. Then they died from what the vaccine had altered in their immune system. Bet unvaccinated ferrets, if exposed to the virus, would simply have had a short term cold.
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I'm more worried that there is a virus because it sure felt like I had it in Jan. Sounds like many people caught something but most survived. What if it's a slow killer, getting better until you catch it a 2nd time (as the ferrets basically did) and then sudden death.
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Looks like my gut feeling on flu-vaccine served me well. Never taken one, nor will my family.
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You might want to use the Indian children in the Villages on the shores of Hudson Bay for that. I would suspect the ones with mold growing on their face would be the best 'candidates' and the samples can be collected on spot so they do not have to be taken away, . . never to return. (as has happened so often in the past, you wouldn't like the reason, trust me on this one)
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WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU JUST SAY? NEED A PSYCHIATRIST?
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Let the state worshipers drink their koolaid , they will all be dropping like flies long before they can get around to trying to vaccinate those of us you won't be poisoned.

Im trying to find the downside to this
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Bump in the dark.

The facts speak for themselves here.
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