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FBI and sheriffs warn that right-wing conspiracy theorists are spreading lies that Antifa started Oregon fires
No, anti-fascists have not been arrested in connection with wildfires ravaging Oregon, and public officials are asking people to stop spreading the various false rumors claiming this to be the case.

Some mainstream conservative pundits and a major police trade publication, as well as conspiracy theorists aligned with QAnon, have all promoted the false narrative about the historically destructive and deadly wildfires.

While investigators are looking into arson as the possible cause of at least one fire, authorities say there is no evidence to suggest the arson is politically motivated. Utility providers have said some fires may have been started by downed power lines during historic winds and heat. Red flag wildfire warnings have been in effect for the better part of a week.

People pushing the conspiracy theories have largely pointed to the Almeda fire, which Ashland Police Chief Tighe O’Meara confirmed has spurred a criminal investigation. O’Meara said rumors claiming anti-fascists were involved are “100% false information.”

“Rumors spread just like wildfire and now our dispatchers and professional staff are being overrun with requests for information and inquiries on an UNTRUE rumor that Antifa members have been arrested for setting fires in Douglas County, Oregon,” the Douglas County Sheriff’s Office posted to Facebook Thursday morning. “THIS IS NOT TRUE!”

Law Enforcement Today, which says it is “America’s largest law enforcement owned and operated media outlet,” reported Thursday unnamed sources have told them the wildfires may be a “coordinated and planned” attack.

FBI spokesperson Beth Anne Steele refuted the claims when asked by The Oregonian/OregonLive.

“There is no indication that the fires are the result of coordinated criminal activity,” Steele said.

Conspiracy theorists have also pointed to a Molalla Police Department post on Facebook asking people to call 911 if they see suspicious activity after “a lot of rumors and posts,” going around about looters who may break into evacuated homes. The post was shared widely as supposed proof to back up the anti-fascist rumors.

But Molalla police edited the post at 2 a.m. Thursday to clarify that its warning of looters had no connection to anti-fascists. The department urged people to “stay calm and use common sense.”

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This morning, the Federal Bureau of Investigation put out a statement, debunking rumors about Antifa arsonists.
"FBI Portland and local law enforcement agencies have been receiving reports that extremists are responsible for setting wildfires in Oregon. With our state and local partners, the FBI has investigated several such reports and found them to be untrue."

"Conspiracy theories and misinformation take valuable resources away local fire and police agencies working around the clock to bring these fires under control. Please help our entire community by only sharing validated information from official sources."

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Re: FBI and sheriffs warn that right-wing conspiracy theorists are spreading lies that Antifa started Oregon fires
Lie.
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Re: FBI and sheriffs warn that right-wing conspiracy theorists are spreading lies that Antifa started Oregon fires
Lie.
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What do you maintain is a lie?
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FBI also said "Russia. Russia, Russi" and white supremacists are the ultimate danger.

lol
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I think I have seen four or five of these fake antifa arsonist threads pined right here on GLP in the last 24 hours.
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Lie.
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What do you maintain is a lie?
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FBI.

There are documented arrests with names.

This is politically correct bullshit to "save lives"
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Lie.
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So the FBI did it!
A legend in my own mind
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I'm happy where I live God reigns in our hearts. Else we would end up like you know who.
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I thought a texas plate car was caught throwing molotovs in oregon and the kid in washington admitted to arson on 167. So wtf? These are the ONLY accounts of arson? Yeah fucking right bro. FBI doesnt mean shit when people have the internet
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I think I have seen four or five of these fake antifa arsonist threads pined right here on GLP in the last 24 hours.
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Those names link back to non GLP media showing arrests.
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Lol... imagine not going after the people starting the fires but the evil right-wingers spreading muh fake news hahahahahahahaa
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Lie.
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What do you maintain is a lie?
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FBI.

There are documented arrests with names.

This is politically correct bullshit to "save lives"
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clappa
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The FBI rushes in to save its assets.
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Then they should tell their sheriff's deputies to not be spreading the "rumors," either:

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Re: FBI and sheriffs warn that right-wing conspiracy theorists are spreading lies that Antifa started Oregon fires
At least six groups have issued warnings about the false rumors, including some pleading with the public to stop sharing the misinformation.

“Rumors spread just like wildfire and now our 9-1-1 dispatchers and professional staff are being overrun with requests for information and inquiries on an UNTRUE rumor that 6 Antifa members have been arrested for setting fires in DOUGLAS COUNTY, OREGON,” the Douglas County Sheriff's Office wrote in a Facebook post on Thursday.

The false claims also became fodder for the now-sizable online QAnon community, which began amplifying various false reports earlier in the week.

The sheriffs in Jackson County, Oregon, and Mason County, Washington, posted similar warnings, begging locals to stop spreading unsubstantiated claims.

A firefighters union in Washington state called Facebook “an absolute cesspool of misinformation right now,” in a post that sought to quell more rumors about the fires’ origins.

On Friday afternoon, the FBI's Portland field office tweeted that reports about "extremists" setting wildfires were untrue.

The Medford police debunked the antifa rumor along with a separate, less viral false claim that the fires were a result of arson by the Proud Boys, a far-right group whose members describe themselves as “western chauvinists” and have been an antagonistic mainstay of Black Lives Matter protests.

A fire in Ashland, Oregon, is being investigated as arson, but The Oregonian reported Ashland Police Chief Tighe O’Meara as saying, “One thing I can say is that the rumor it was set by Antifa is 100% false information.”

Despite protestations from law enforcement, rumors have spread through far-right Facebook groups and news websites like Gateway Pundit and the Post Millennial in stories alleging without evidence that Jeff Acord, a 36-year-old man arrested on charges of starting a fire in Puyallup, Washington, was an “antifa militant.” The Post Millennial later changed the story to call Acord a “BLM activist.”

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Suspect charged with arson in wildfire-plagued West Coast has troubling record with BLM.

Authorities along the wildfire-beset West Coast arrested multiple suspected arsonists this week, including one who appears to be a known rioter and Black Lives Matter supporter.

The BLM supporter, Jeffrey Alan Acord, 36, was arrested Wednesday in Puyallup, Washington, after being caught setting a fire in the brush along a state highway.

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I thought a texas plate car was caught throwing molotovs in oregon and the kid in washington admitted to arson on 167. So wtf? These are the ONLY accounts of arson? Yeah fucking right bro. FBI doesnt mean shit when people have the internet
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There were six documented arrests that I traced myself.

The waa 21yo Zachary Lang? With antifa arrest on aug 17th.

The camello chick in CA.

FBI is saying they just all simultaneously decided to start
fires on their own. Are you that stupid?
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One of the earliest claims of antifa involvement came from Paul Romero, a former Republican candidate for U.S. Senate in Oregon, who said in a viral tweet that Douglas County police had arrested six antifa arsonists. Romero stood by his tweet in a phone interview on Thursday, calling the fires a “coordinated intentional attack,” by antifa but providing no evidence for the claim, saying he heard about the arrests from “sheriff's deputies that have been talking.”

Romero’s post was further spread by followers of QAnon, a conspiracy movement based on the idea that Trump is leading a secret war against a group of political, business and Hollywood elites who, the theory posits, worship Satan and murder children. The leader of the movement, an anonymous figure who posts to a message board as “Q,” included Romero’s tweet in a post early Thursday.

Some users responding to Romero’s posts said they were sent there by Q and pushed false QAnon talking points that the fires were part of an elaborate political plot. According to data gleaned from the disinformation analytics tool Hoaxy, most of the traffic to Romero’s post came after Q’s post, almost a full day after Romero had posted it.

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I thought a texas plate car was caught throwing molotovs in oregon and the kid in washington admitted to arson on 167. So wtf? These are the ONLY accounts of arson? Yeah fucking right bro. FBI doesnt mean shit when people have the internet
 Quoting: Asianchris22


There were six documented arrests that I traced myself.

The waa 21yo Zachary Lang? With antifa arrest on aug 17th.

The camello chick in CA.

FBI is saying they just all simultaneously decided to start
fires on their own. Are you that stupid?
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That are not saying that there were no arsonists.

What six police departments, fire departments and the FBI are all saying is that the rumors saying they are antifas is false.
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No, anti-fascists have not been arrested in connection with wildfires ravaging Oregon, and public officials are asking people to stop spreading the various false rumors claiming this to be the case.

Some mainstream conservative pundits and a major police trade publication, as well as conspiracy theorists aligned with QAnon, have all promoted the false narrative about the historically destructive and deadly wildfires.

While investigators are looking into arson as the possible cause of at least one fire, authorities say there is no evidence to suggest the arson is politically motivated. Utility providers have said some fires may have been started by downed power lines during historic winds and heat. Red flag wildfire warnings have been in effect for the better part of a week.

People pushing the conspiracy theories have largely pointed to the Almeda fire, which Ashland Police Chief Tighe O’Meara confirmed has spurred a criminal investigation. O’Meara said rumors claiming anti-fascists were involved are “100% false information.”

“Rumors spread just like wildfire and now our dispatchers and professional staff are being overrun with requests for information and inquiries on an UNTRUE rumor that Antifa members have been arrested for setting fires in Douglas County, Oregon,” the Douglas County Sheriff’s Office posted to Facebook Thursday morning. “THIS IS NOT TRUE!”

Law Enforcement Today, which says it is “America’s largest law enforcement owned and operated media outlet,” reported Thursday unnamed sources have told them the wildfires may be a “coordinated and planned” attack.

FBI spokesperson Beth Anne Steele refuted the claims when asked by The Oregonian/OregonLive.

“There is no indication that the fires are the result of coordinated criminal activity,” Steele said.

Conspiracy theorists have also pointed to a Molalla Police Department post on Facebook asking people to call 911 if they see suspicious activity after “a lot of rumors and posts,” going around about looters who may break into evacuated homes. The post was shared widely as supposed proof to back up the anti-fascist rumors.

But Molalla police edited the post at 2 a.m. Thursday to clarify that its warning of looters had no connection to anti-fascists. The department urged people to “stay calm and use common sense.”

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Your fake post conveniently left out Jeffrey Acord, BLM activist arrested for starting multiple fires in Washington state.
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The FBI has a proven history of lying if they believe
the truth will cause a huge public reaction.

Randy Weaver.
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“I am physically and emotionally exhausted. We’ve been working really hard to protect people’s lives and homes,” firefighter Matt Lowery wrote Thursday night on the Facebook page for the East Pierce Fire & Rescue union south of Seattle. “I also want to address an issue that keeps coming up, even from some of the public that we are talking to while working. It is hot, dry, and fire spreads quickly in those conditions. There is nothing to show its Antifa or Proud Boys setting fires. Wait for information.”

The Mason County Sheriff's Office urged Washington residents to stop spreading rumors as isolated incidents of apparent arson led to widespread, unfounded claims that antifa agitators were conspiring to start fires along the West Coast.

“Though some agencies have made arrests related to arson recently, they appear to all be separate individuals, however as with many incidents, it will be an ongoing investigation in each jurisdiction,” the agency wrote Thursday night on Facebook.

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Why are the so worried about a Fake Story [if its fake that is] when there are dozens of fake stories every week on the news?
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The FBI has a proven history of lying if they believe
the truth will cause a huge public reaction.

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FBI also said "Russia. Russia, Russi" and white supremacists are the ultimate danger.

lol
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Yea, exactly.

The FBI is certainly still stuck with a lot of mini-mes of slimeball liberals like James Comey. Local police agencies, particularly in liberal holes like Washigton/Oregon, etc, are no different.

Ironic that people of the left think cops in places like (liberal) Minneapolis confronting a George Floyd are similar to a John Brennan/James Comey versus a Michael Flynn (not criminal-record George Floyd), but do just the opposite when it comes to the actual Comey/Brennan and the actual Michael Flynn.
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Why are the so worried about a Fake Story [if its fake that is] when there are dozens of fake stories every week on the news?
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They are going in to hyperdrive to try to wash away from anyone's mind that this was a planned, organized arson across multiple states. Straight out of the communist manifesto.
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Lie.
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What do you maintain is a lie?
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These false rumors were being spread on twitter a whole 2-3 days before anyone did actually start trying to set them , completely unfounded and lacking credible source , entirely word of mouth.


AND THEN PEOPLE DID ACTUALLY START SETTING FIRES ONCE GETTING THE IDEA


Also they are worse than Antifa , they are Satanists and these people trying to associate them with a political group are only cloaking the evil.
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The FBI has a proven history of lying if they believe
the truth will cause a huge public reaction.

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It's not just FBI who are saying the atifa and proud boy arsonist conspiracy theories are fake. It's every police and fire department in the area saying it's fake.
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People are brain washed OP they will believe lies over the truth just because of pride





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