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“Continue in the things that you learned and were persuaded to believe.”—2 TIM. 3:14.

1. What do we mean by the term “the truth”?

“HOW did you find the truth?” “Were you raised in the truth?” “How long have you been in the truth?” You have likely been asked such questions—or maybe you have asked them of others. What do we mean by the term “the truth”? Generally, we use it to describe our beliefs, our way of worship, and our way of life. People who are “in the truth” know what the Bible teaches, and they live according to its principles. As a result, they are set free from religious falsehood and they enjoy the best life possible for imperfect humans.—John 8:32.
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1 Timothy 6:10
For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

1 Timothy 6:10
For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

Jesus already led the way, his Holy Spirit guides us in his path. But that means that we must do what Jesus did by obeying his commands, and along the way keep his commandments in order to keep the Holy Spirit within.
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1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

St. John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

Jesus already led the way, his Holy Spirit guides us in his path. But that means that we must do what Jesus did by obeying his commands, and along the way keep his commandments in order to keep the Holy Spirit within.
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Corrected the verses***
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1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

St. John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

Jesus already led the way, his Holy Spirit guides us in his path. But that means that we must do what Jesus did by obeying his commands, and along the way keep his commandments in order to keep the Holy Spirit within.
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Corrected the verses***
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Nice post.
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2. According to John 13:34, 35, what might initially attract a person to the truth?

2 What initially attracted you to the truth? Maybe it was the good conduct of Jehovah’s people. (1 Pet. 2:12) Or perhaps it was the love they showed. Many took note of it at the first meeting they attended, and more than anything that was said from the platform, that love made a lasting impression on them. This is not surprising because Jesus said that his disciples would be identified by their love for one another. (Read John 13:34, 35.) But more is needed if we are to have strong faith.
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3. What may happen if our faith in God is based only on the Christlike love shown by our brothers and sisters?

3 Our faith has to be based on more than just the Christlike love of God’s people. Why? Suppose a fellow believer—even an elder or a pioneer—commits a serious sin. Or what if a brother or a sister hurts you in some way? Or perhaps someone becomes an apostate, asserting that we do not have the truth. If such things happen, will you be stumbled and stop serving Jehovah? The lesson is this: If you were to build your faith in God purely on the way that other people act instead of on your relationship with Jehovah himself, your faith would not be solid. In your house of faith, you should use not only such soft materials as feelings and emotions but also hard facts and solid logic. You need to prove to yourself that the Bible contains the truth about Jehovah.—Rom. 12:2.
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4. According to Matthew 13:3-6, 20, 21, how are some affected by tests of their faith?

4 Jesus said that some would accept the truth “with joy,” but their faith would wither when tested. (Read Matthew 13:3-6, 20, 21.) Perhaps they did not realize that following Jesus would involve challenges and hardship. (Matt. 16:24) Or maybe they thought that being a Christian meant living a trouble-free life—one with only blessings, no challenges. But in this imperfect world, there will be challenges. Circumstances can change, causing our joy to diminish for a time.—Ps. 6:6; Eccl. 9:11.
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The truth shall set you free.





--or get you in Big Trouble.
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The truth shall set you free.





--or get you in Big Trouble.
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I give DandyManDonald this, he sees the bigger picture above politics and religion. His wife opened one of his press talks with this;
‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. 10Let your Kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also on earth. 11Give us today our bread for this day; 12and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. 13 And do not bring us into temptation, but deliver us from the wicked one. Mt6:9

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Apparently he dosent care.

If he did you would not be in a cult.
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Apparently he dosent care.

If he did you would not be in a cult.
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No you're in a cult. Am to am not am to am not... cult cult cult....
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So much for playing the dumb dumb card.

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5. How are the majority of our brothers and sisters proving that they are convinced that they have the truth?

5 The vast majority of our brothers and sisters prove that they are convinced that they have the truth. How? Their conviction does not waver even if a fellow believer hurts them or gets involved in unchristian conduct. (Ps. 119:165) With each test, their faith grows stronger, not weaker. (Jas. 1:2-4) How can you build that type of strong faith?
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The true Jesus of Nazareth thundered this warning to those who did not believe: "You are from beneath; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins" (John 8:23-24).

John 8:23-24
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23-24 Jesus said, “You’re tied down to the mundane; I’m in touch with what is beyond your horizons. You live in terms of what you see and touch. I’m living on other terms. I told you that you were missing God in all this. You’re at a dead end. If you won’t believe I am who I say I am, you’re at the dead end of sins. You’re missing God in your lives.”
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Matthew 10:33

33 but whoever denies me before men, I also will deny before my Father who is in heaven.
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Matthew 10:33

33 but whoever denies me before men, I also will deny before my Father who is in heaven.
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Yes it is an earthly anomaly the global heard mentality responds with no gratitude for the great Teacher, leaving their own selves with no hope but failing immediate gratification.


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GAIN “THE ACCURATE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD”
6. On what did the first-century disciples build their faith?

6 The first-century disciples built their faith on their knowledge of the Scriptures and the teachings of Jesus Christ, that is, “the truth of the good news.” (Gal. 2:5) This truth consists of the whole body of Christian teachings, including the facts about Jesus’ ransom sacrifice and his resurrection. The apostle Paul was convinced that these teachings were true. Why? Because he used the Scriptures to prove “by references that it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead.” (Acts 17:2, 3) The first-century disciples accepted those teachings and relied on the holy spirit to help them understand God’s Word. They proved to themselves that these teachings were based on the Scriptures. (Acts 17:11, 12; Heb. 5:14) They did not build their faith on feelings and emotions alone, and they did not serve Jehovah simply because they felt good when they associated with fellow believers. Instead, their faith was built on “the accurate knowledge of God.”—Col. 1:9, 10
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The world is going thru a "Sifting" or separation of the Elect and non elect. Everybody on the planet will hear the truth and then chooses for themselves who they will follow. It's a pretty simple plan. The tragedy here is that most who choose destruction will have known the truth but rejected it for the god of this world.
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The world is going thru a "Sifting" or separation of the Elect and non elect. Everybody on the planet will hear the truth and then chooses for themselves who they will follow. It's a pretty simple plan. The tragedy here is that most who choose destruction will have known the truth but rejected it for the god of this world.
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Here's the explanation;
If, in fact, the good news we declare is veiled, it is veiled among those who are perishing, 4among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, so that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through. 5For we are preaching, not about ourselves, but about Jesus Christ as Lord and ourselves as your slaves for Jesus’ sake. 6For God is the one who said: “Let the light shine out of darkness,” and he has shone on our hearts to illuminate them with the glorious knowledge of God by the face of Christ. 2Cor4:3

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7. What will our faith in Bible truths do for us?

7 The truths of God’s Word remain constant. (Ps. 119:160) For example, they do not change if a fellow believer offends us or commits a serious sin. And they do not change when we face adversity. So we need to be thoroughly familiar with Bible teachings and convinced that they are truthful. Our firm faith built on Bible truths will steady us in times of test, just as an anchor can steady a boat during a turbulent storm. How can you strengthen your conviction that you have the truth?
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BE “PERSUADED TO BELIEVE”
8. As shown at 2 Timothy 3:14, 15, how did Timothy become convinced that he had the truth?

8 Timothy was convinced that he had the truth. How did he arrive at that conclusion? (Read 2 Timothy 3:14, 15.) His mother and his grandmother introduced him to the teachings of “the holy writings.” But no doubt he himself also spent time and energy studying those writings. As a result, he was “persuaded to believe” that they contained the truth. Later, Timothy, his mother, and his grandmother came in contact with Christianity. Timothy was no doubt impressed by the love shown by Jesus’ followers, and he had a strong desire to associate with and care for his spiritual brothers and sisters. (Phil. 2:19, 20) However, his faith was built, not on his feelings for fellow humans, but on facts that drew him closer to Jehovah. You too must logically reason on what you have learned about Jehovah from reading the Bible.
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9. What three basic truths do you need to prove to yourself?

9 To start with, you need to prove to yourself at least three basic truths. First, you need to be convinced that Jehovah God is the Creator of all things. (Ex. 3:14, 15; Heb. 3:4; Rev. 4:11) Second, you must prove to yourself that the Bible is God’s inspired message to mankind. (2 Tim. 3:16, 17) And third, you need to confirm that Jehovah has an organized group of people who are worshipping him under Christ’s headship and that Jehovah’s Witnesses are that group. (Isa. 43:10-12; John 14:6; Acts 15:14) Proving to yourself those basic truths does not require that you become a walking encyclopedia of Bible knowledge. Your goal should be to use your “power of reason” to strengthen your conviction that you have the truth.—Rom. 12:1.
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BE PREPARED TO CONVINCE OTHERS
10. In addition to knowing the truth, what do we need to be able to do?

10 Once you have established the three basic truths regarding God, the Bible, and God’s people, you need to be able to use the Scriptures to prove these truths to others. Why? Because as Christians, we have a responsibility to teach the truths that we learn to those who will listen to us. * (1 Tim. 4:16) And as we try to convince others about Bible truths, we strengthen our own conviction about those truths.
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I lost the truth in my teens, regaining it is the goal.
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I lost the truth in my teens, regaining it is the goal.
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Here's your personal invitation;
Thread: "Return to me and i will return to you". Mal3:7 Does God welcome back servants that have strayed far away stumbled hard?

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11. What example did the apostle Paul set as a teacher?

11 When the apostle Paul taught people, he would “persuade them about Jesus from both the Law of Moses and the Prophets.” (Acts 28:23) How can we imitate Paul when teaching others the truth? We must do more than recite facts. We must help our Bible students to reason on the Scriptures as they draw close to Jehovah. We want them to accept the truth, not because they admire us, but because they have proved to themselves that what they are learning is the truth about our loving God.
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9. What three basic truths do you need to prove to yourself?

9 To start with, you need to prove to yourself at least three basic truths. First, you need to be convinced that Jehovah God is the Creator of all things. (Ex. 3:14, 15; Heb. 3:4; Rev. 4:11) Second, you must prove to yourself that the Bible is God’s inspired message to mankind. (2 Tim. 3:16, 17) And third, you need to confirm that Jehovah has an organized group of people who are worshipping him under Christ’s headship and that Jehovah’s Witnesses are that group. (Isa. 43:10-12; John 14:6; Acts 15:14) Proving to yourself those basic truths does not require that you become a walking encyclopedia of Bible knowledge. Your goal should be to use your “power of reason” to strengthen your conviction that you have the truth.—Rom. 12:1.
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What if one just 'accepts Jesus as his savior', isn't that good enough?
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There is no confusion. New Jerusalem Calendar is King with Jesus Christ.
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And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
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Any questions?
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“Continue in the things that you learned and were persuaded to believe.”—2 TIM. 3:14.

1. What do we mean by the term “the truth”?

“HOW did you find the truth?” “Were you raised in the truth?” “How long have you been in the truth?” You have likely been asked such questions—or maybe you have asked them of others. What do we mean by the term “the truth”? Generally, we use it to describe our beliefs, our way of worship, and our way of life. People who are “in the truth” know what the Bible teaches, and they live according to its principles. As a result, they are set free from religious falsehood and they enjoy the best life possible for imperfect humans.—John 8:32.
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30 yrs ago I began to see that there was something horribly wrong with
Christianity. The leaders have no idea what LOVE is. I didn't know either!
But I determined in my heart that I would search and not stop until I found
the answers to my questions.

I began to realize that Christianity has totally ignored many passages in
their own book. I saw folks judging everyone and everything they didn't
understand.

I didn't ask questions .... I "assumed" that it held the truth and that the
whole book was infallible. From , from earliest beginning I was taught
"WHAT" to think and knew nothing about critical thinking. I had to learn
how to do that. I didn't wake up one day and had my answers. No, I
struggled to make sense of how I had been mislead.

For thirty yrs, I was married to a man who decided to become "educated"
and off to Seminary we went. It was an ultra conservative school and I truly
believed it would provide the honest truth.

Jumping ahead I witnessed multitudes judging everybody and everyone.
I began to understand that God doesn't judge anyone, so why were so
many condemned to misery while ignorance reigned all around them.

I started with the fact that everything I found had to be sifted THRU the bible.
I never stopped doing that. It was when I pondered the book of Genesis
that I realized religion's proplem is because they don't understand who
we are and where we came from.

We are taught that God created man in his own image. How could man
be born with what they call, "original sin"?? I no longer believe that!

God became Man, and the word should read "man[kind]". So why did
God create man in his own image? God wanted to EXPERIENCE THE
WORLD OF HIS CREATION!.

GENESIS tells us of the Tree of Knowledge.....of Good and Evil. Powerful
verse. I realized that the BIBLE is that tree. It encompasses both Good
and Evil.

"Study to show thyself an approved workman that needeth not to be ashamed,
but RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE WORD OF TRUTH.

Each of us must understand this truth. Anything in that book that says God
judges is a complete lie. God is LOVE....NEVER KEEPING A RECORD OF
RIGHT OR WRONG!

God became Man....the MANY ...... every single person on this earth.
And this is why Jesus called himself the SON OF MAN. A man just like
every human on earth! Flesh and blood and BORN FREE FROM ANY idea
of sin.

YES, the bible contains the truth but men are completely confused about
the evil stuff.

The world only appears to you the way you see it because we try to believe
the entire book is true and confusion reigns.

That's enough.....

I leave you with this......whatever you BELIEVE to be true will provide evidence
whether you want it to be true or not.

Immediately, begin to question everything you've been taught. Live fully,
and explore your life without guilt. God is LOVE and SO ARE YOU.

Create the kind of world you WANT TO LIVE IN.

Heaven is a state of MIND. The peace that passeth understanding.

LOVE never fails.
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Any questions?
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Glad to see you back Russ, last I heard you had been abducted by aliens and various far out theories, (even by gypsies holding you captive). Yes my question is what force is dividing/confusion/conquering the churches of Christendom, being they're not being taught by Jehovah?
Now I urge you, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you should all speak in agreement and that there should be no divisions among you, but that you may be completely united in the same mind and in the same line of thought. 1Cor1:10
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Parents, help your children develop faith by teaching them “the deep things of God” (See paragraphs 12-13) *

12-13. How can parents help their children to remain in the truth?

12 Parents, no doubt you want your children to remain in the truth. You may feel that if they have good associates in the congregation, they will make good spiritual progress. However, if your children are to be convinced that they have the truth, they need something more than wholesome friends. They need to have a personal relationship with God and to be convinced of the truthfulness of what the Bible teaches.





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