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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 311948 ![]() 10/19/2007 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The 13th Amendment forbids Titles of Nobility - Why is DR. Ron Paul silently challending this hidden amendment? well it sounds like Paul is either: a. lying about everything and this whole deal with Paul in every aspect is a set up so the NWO can gain more control. b. he's challenging this hidden amendment in order to make it come to light so it can be ratified. He is setting up the NWO to attack him over something they have denied, hidden, and distorted. c. he doesn't consider the hidden amendment to be constitutional because supposedly it was never ratified. |
BlueStraza User ID: 314104 ![]() 10/19/2007 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The 13th Amendment forbids Titles of Nobility - Why is DR. Ron Paul silently challending this hidden amendment? being the constitutionalist RP is, this would make sense hes trying to bring it to light. he follows in the footsteps of the Founding fathers, and the uncorrupt 'old congress'. The fact that 'All man is created equal' in the united states would make this Amendment a very believeable deal. In other words, the found fathers believed having a Title of Nobility or Honour would put some people above others. They never really liked that thought since they believe 'All man are equal'. it also would affect, as stated in the OP's post, the jucial system; which is rather unfair these days, and would weed out pretty much any asshole who hungers for power over others with retarded law and rulings. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 311948 ![]() 10/19/2007 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The 13th Amendment forbids Titles of Nobility - Why is DR. Ron Paul silently challending this hidden amendment? for the peeps who are having a hard time putting this together: this hidden amendment, part of the 13th, forbids people who are running for any type of office to hold a title of nobility, ie: DR, MOD, etc. It claims that to accept such foriegn notability you instantly lose your american citizenship. in a nutshell: you must be a US citizen to run for US president according to the constitution. the question is: why is he challenging this? if he honestly supports the constitution, then he should be supporting this amendment. But he insists on running for the pres with the title of nobility: DR. Ron Paul. |
von Doom User ID: 314711 ![]() 10/19/2007 09:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The 13th Amendment forbids Titles of Nobility - Why is DR. Ron Paul silently challending this hidden amendment? for the peeps who are having a hard time putting this together: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 311948this hidden amendment, part of the 13th, forbids people who are running for any type of office to hold a title of nobility, ie: DR, MOD, etc. It claims that to accept such foriegn notability you instantly lose your american citizenship. in a nutshell: you must be a US citizen to run for US president according to the constitution. the question is: why is he challenging this? if he honestly supports the constitution, then he should be supporting this amendment. But he insists on running for the pres with the title of nobility: DR. Ron Paul. That's not what was written. Read again. The title of M.D. was used as an analogy in relation to the use of Esquire. It said nothing about your interpretation |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 311948 ![]() 10/19/2007 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The 13th Amendment forbids Titles of Nobility - Why is DR. Ron Paul silently challending this hidden amendment? this is NOT just a weird coincidence. this means something. this is either something paul has planned for the good of all people and the constitution OR this is our first glimpse into him being a possible fraud and working for the NWO. we need to contact him! many of us need to write him in regards to this. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 311948 ![]() 10/19/2007 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The 13th Amendment forbids Titles of Nobility - Why is DR. Ron Paul silently challending this hidden amendment? That's not what was written. Quoting: von Doom 314711Read again. The title of M.D. was used as an analogy in relation to the use of Esquire. It said nothing about your interpretation you read again: If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive or retain, any title of nobility or honour, or shall, without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension, office or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 311948 ![]() 10/19/2007 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The 13th Amendment forbids Titles of Nobility - Why is DR. Ron Paul silently challending this hidden amendment? "Also, Paul is a member of the American Medical Association (AMA) and carries the Foreign Nobility Title of Doctor, designating him as a foreign agent (the same as Esquire for attorneys) working under the authority of the Crown Queen of England. That alone is treason, and he cannot hold public office under the original 13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution of the Republic." [link to fourwinds10.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 102035 ![]() 10/19/2007 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The 13th Amendment forbids Titles of Nobility - Why is DR. Ron Paul silently challending this hidden amendment? "Also, Paul is a member of the American Medical Association (AMA) and carries the Foreign Nobility Title of Doctor, designating him as a foreign agent (the same as Esquire for attorneys) working under the authority of the Crown Queen of England. That alone is treason, and he cannot hold public office under the original 13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution of the Republic." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 311948[link to fourwinds10.com] ~boy are you guys desperate~ |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 311948 ![]() 10/19/2007 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The 13th Amendment forbids Titles of Nobility - Why is DR. Ron Paul silently challending this hidden amendment? ~boy are you guys desperate~ Quoting: Anonymous Coward 102035listen, i'm just trying to get to the bottom of this. many truths lay under these stones we are lifting right now. i'm not sure what to believe, no one should be too sure at this moment until we find out more. lets try to keep an open mind. this is very serious regardless if a NESARA founder brought this to light. |
von Doom User ID: 314711 ![]() 10/19/2007 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The 13th Amendment forbids Titles of Nobility - Why is DR. Ron Paul silently challending this hidden amendment? A Title of Nobility has to be issued by the Crown, not a University. I don't give a rat's ass what site you are citing. They are wrong. Why would Paul be trying to negate his own bid for the Presidency. Rudy Giuliani, however, has been issued a Title of Nobility by the Crown of England, as he has been knighted, making him ineligible as a Foreign Agent to run for the Presidency of the United States of America. Doesn't this make much more sense. |
V User ID: 313443 ![]() 10/19/2007 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The 13th Amendment forbids Titles of Nobility - Why is DR. Ron Paul silently challending this hidden amendment? OK Fine. He's a doctor and can't hold office because of title of foreign nobility. NOW who are you going to vote for smart as$? Prey tell which of the other candidates in the field GENUINELY believes and wants to adhere to the rule of law and Constitution? And while the 'original 13th' may well have been ratified, it has not been recognized as such for nearly 200 years, so....you're going to use that non-recognized fine print to exclude the best candidate. You shills make me laugh. V |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 311948 ![]() 10/19/2007 10:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The 13th Amendment forbids Titles of Nobility - Why is DR. Ron Paul silently challending this hidden amendment? i am not a shill. i sware on everything i know i am not a shill. i'm an honest person who is trying to get to the bottom of this. i have made no final conclusions, and i'll tell you right now i dont want to think paul is a bad guy. however i will not refuse to read between the lines just because things are complicated. i am AM, who replied in that message from that fourwinds10 link |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 311948 ![]() 10/19/2007 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The 13th Amendment forbids Titles of Nobility - Why is DR. Ron Paul silently challending this hidden amendment? The 13th don't say that anymore, and Dr.Paul has adderessed it before. Just like several other amendments it needs review and investigation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 314735is there video? do you have a link? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 280540 ![]() 10/19/2007 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The 13th Amendment forbids Titles of Nobility - Why is DR. Ron Paul silently challending this hidden amendment? and Rudy has an honorary knighthood, in name only, from what I understand it is not the same. I was thinking of doing an oped on it, and need to do more research, but I don't think it is the same. I would love to see Rudy ousted for that, but not sure if it is possible |
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von Doom User ID: 314711 ![]() 10/19/2007 10:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The 13th Amendment forbids Titles of Nobility - Why is DR. Ron Paul silently challending this hidden amendment? and Rudy has an honorary knighthood, in name only, from what I understand it is not the same. I was thinking of doing an oped on it, and need to do more research, but I don't think it is the same. I would love to see Rudy ousted for that, but not sure if it is possible Quoting: Anonymous Coward 280540I'm not absolutely sure on this but Honorary Knighthood is issued to those that are not British citizens, so in essence it is the same thing. Also, the Constitution forbids Federal Employees only from accepting foreign titles of nobility, which negates this entire thread. This also means that Sir Rudy still has the right to run for president, so I apologize for my mistake. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 226992 ![]() 10/19/2007 10:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The 13th Amendment forbids Titles of Nobility - Why is DR. Ron Paul silently challending this hidden amendment? "....such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them." citizen of the United States = Officer |
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