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ARE WE ACTUALLY BREAKING THROUGH? WTF IS GOING ON HERE? LOOK AT GOOGLE VIDS TOP 10... | |
| FIFTH INSTAR Offer Upgrade  User ID: 314717  Canada10/20/2007 02:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| mathetes User ID: 281281  United States10/20/2007 03:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Off topic,if only Ron Paul would change his social programs outlook he would have my vote, I cannot see just pulling the plug on the poor and needy, maybe I'm wrong but I have yet to see his solution for this, because the years before these programs were def. not the "good old days" Peace to you my friend For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 115601 United States10/20/2007 03:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yes youre right and it would be promicing if not for the fact that this is ranking for canada not the usa..... top 100 lists for usa include barely 5 potentially illuminating news items of the nwo coup of america....the sadest fact is that americans are too stupid or sedated or drugged or toxic to even understand whats happened.... sheeple is an accurate term i regret to say. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 300882  Austria10/20/2007 03:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Off topic,if only Ron Paul would change his social programs outlook he would have my vote, I cannot see just pulling the plug on the poor and needy, maybe I'm wrong but I have yet to see his solution for this, because the years before these programs were def. not the "good old days" Quoting: mathetesPeace to you my friend Ron Paul wouldn't pull the plug. He just wants people to be less dependend on the government. Sound money, lower (or no) taxes, less laws... should achieve that. He is also for private charity. |
| * <----star of destiny User ID: 279402 United States10/20/2007 03:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Off topic,if only Ron Paul would change his social programs outlook he would have my vote, I cannot see just pulling the plug on the poor and needy, maybe I'm wrong but I have yet to see his solution for this, because the years before these programs were def. not the "good old days" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300882Peace to you my friend Ron Paul wouldn't pull the plug. He just wants people to be less dependend on the government. Sound money, lower (or no) taxes, less laws... should achieve that. He is also for private charity. Ron Paul doesnt have a snow balls chance in hell of getting elected. He is not a globalist and globalist is the way of the future. No way to stop it. |
| mathetes User ID: 281281 United States10/20/2007 03:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Off topic,if only Ron Paul would change his social programs outlook he would have my vote, I cannot see just pulling the plug on the poor and needy, maybe I'm wrong but I have yet to see his solution for this, because the years before these programs were def. not the "good old days" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300882Peace to you my friend Ron Paul wouldn't pull the plug. He just wants people to be less dependend on the government. Sound money, lower (or no) taxes, less laws... should achieve that. He is also for private charity. I've heard this but how? Gradually? Or all at once? If anyone has any statements by Paul on how this can be achieved please post them, I'll start a new thread on this later so as not to hijack Fifth's thread For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. |
| Forever_Midnight User ID: 279850 United States10/20/2007 03:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hm indeed! Nice find, OP. . Crumbling world falls through my hands — In my mouth taste bitter sands — Grass is burning, pulse is slow — Drip by drip my backwards growth — crawl… [link to www.youtube.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 314445  Germany10/20/2007 04:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 219520 United States10/20/2007 05:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Off topic,if only Ron Paul would change his social programs outlook he would have my vote, I cannot see just pulling the plug on the poor and needy, maybe I'm wrong but I have yet to see his solution for this, because the years before these programs were def. not the "good old days" Quoting: mathetesPeace to you my friend Ron Paul wouldn't pull the plug. He just wants people to be less dependend on the government. Sound money, lower (or no) taxes, less laws... should achieve that. He is also for private charity. I've heard this but how? Gradually? Or all at once? If anyone has any statements by Paul on how this can be achieved please post them, I'll start a new thread on this later so as not to hijack Fifth's thread I understand and respect those concerns, but when you enter the voting booth study your choices. Any problem can be overcome in honesty. Deceit only has violence in one form or another as a remedy. R P 2008 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 314838  United Kingdom10/20/2007 05:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yes we are breaking through to critical mass. everyone is waking up to the reality that a handful of insane megalomaniacs are running the world to her detriment. the forces of darkness are to be removed and the forces of light will soon be in command. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 92671 United States10/20/2007 05:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Off topic,if only Ron Paul would change his social programs outlook he would have my vote, I cannot see just pulling the plug on the poor and needy, maybe I'm wrong but I have yet to see his solution for this, because the years before these programs were def. not the "good old days" Quoting: mathetesPeace to you my friend I've heard him say that he knows people have grown dependent on these programs and he wouldn't throw anyone out on the street. He also said this wouldn't even be that big of a problem if we could cut spending on wars and other wasteful spending. I don't think he would be heartless on these issues. He is a compassionate man. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 52612  Netherlands10/20/2007 06:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Off topic,if only Ron Paul would change his social programs outlook he would have my vote, I cannot see just pulling the plug on the poor and needy, maybe I'm wrong but I have yet to see his solution for this, because the years before these programs were def. not the "good old days" Quoting: mathetesPeace to you my friend When he abolishes tax and the federal reserve are there any poor people left? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 140584 United States10/20/2007 08:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 226992 United States10/20/2007 08:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 259160 United States10/20/2007 08:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | great to see canadians getting into this stuff... although these videos remain in the top 20 in the US, they do get pushed out of the way by the typical superficial sexual crap that american culture loves [link to video.google.com] although the farting one is pretty funny  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 250761 United States10/20/2007 08:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As for 'social programs': Wouldn't you rather tithe to the (ex.) Salvation Army, instead of the SOS-IRS ???. Meaning- if people got ALL of what they earned, there'd be a lot more in the plate when it gets passed... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 314903 United States10/20/2007 10:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| ~~M User ID: 296730 United States10/20/2007 10:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have always thought that the reason to keep so many eating at the government trough was to keep the masses from questioning or "biting" the hand that feeds them. Most don't care to look too deep, as long as they are getting their piece 'o the pie.... Amazing the amt of people that have sold out and don't even realize it. (sigh)...... |
| jlazarus User ID: 307688 United States10/20/2007 10:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Off topic,if only Ron Paul would change his social programs outlook he would have my vote, I cannot see just pulling the plug on the poor and needy, maybe I'm wrong but I have yet to see his solution for this, because the years before these programs were def. not the "good old days" Quoting: mathetesPeace to you my friend You can go here [link to www.lewrockwell.com] to read many things that Ron Paul has written/said. Here's one that may interest you: [link to www.lewrockwell.com] Also, he has written: ""All foreign aid would be discontinued. Most evidence shows that this money rarely helps the poor, but instead solidifies power in the hands of dictators. There's no moral argument that can justify taxing poor people in this country to help rich people in poor countries. Much of the foreign aid, when spent, is channeled back to weapons manufacturers and other special interests in the United States who are the strong promoters of these foreign-aid expenditures. Yet it's all done in the name of humanitarian causes." He also believes in cutting (eliminating income/payroll taxes specifically) to help everyone, including the poor: "I'm in favor of cutting everybody's taxes -- rich, poor, and otherwise. Whether a tax cut reduces a single mother's payroll taxes by forty dollars a month, or allows a wealthy business owner to save millions in capital gains, the net effect is beneficial. Both either spend, save, or invest the extra dollars, which helps all of us infinitely more than if those dollars were sent to the black hole known as the federal Treasury. The single mother desperately needs those extra dollars, and that's why we should reduce or eliminate her payroll taxes. As for the wealthy business owner and whether he 'needs' the extra dollars, I'll simply relate the old adage of the man who said 'I've never had my paycheck signed by a poor man'." And finally he adamantly believes that the private sector is better equipped to help the plight of the poor rather than the federal government. Also note that he is not necessarily against state programs, but specifically is against federal welfare. As a states rights advocate, he supports state level programs, but believes that federal programs not only promote dependency, but also remove power and drain funds/resources from the states, which are in a better position to help their poor citizens. I will accept any rules that you feel necessary to your freedom. I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do. ~ Robert Heinlein |
| FIFTH INSTAR (OP) User ID: 314717 Canada10/20/2007 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't mind the Ron Paul stuff Mathetis...it's a good question... From what I understand RP is very aware that people have become dependent on Big gov... He's said several time that he's not interested in pulling the rug out from under people...he says that he would like to offer alternatives and explain to people that they don't NEED government, that they can take responsibility for themselves... The interesting thing is that under a RP economy, the disposable cash is going to make everyone less poor, with less money being sucked up by bloated government and much smaller taxing, then perhaps people that are "just getting by" will actually be able to make ends meet without having to go to the government for handouts... I personally am very, very much for personal responsibility. I believe there are better ways to help people then just throwing money at them...People need to work to have a sense of contributing and self relience...I think RP would agree... And as far as the elderly and infirm, and those on Social Security, he's not going to eliminate their money, but he's going to allow the private sector to compete with it... I think that the market can take care of peoples savings better then the government, and it offers more choice...the problem is that people can't save for their own retirement and/or infirmities, because with the fiat dollar ever inflating, and the taxes coming from all angles most people just can't afford it... |
| DanG User ID: 313058 United States10/20/2007 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He also said this wouldn't even be that big of a problem if we could cut spending on wars and other wasteful spending. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 92671the 'war' in Iraq has already cost us $461,553,590,831 this money could have changed america for the better... we could have hired 7,998,791 additional public school teachers... we could have insured 276,379,857 children for one year... the list goes on. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 295517 United States10/20/2007 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| FIFTH INSTAR (OP) User ID: 314717 Canada10/20/2007 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In all actuality, the Iraq war has collectively cost more than that. You're thinking billions, try trillions. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 295517Oh yeah, and THAT...lol I mean cutting back on the military industrial complex...the part that wouldn't be needed if we were'nt PROJECTING power around the world, but were instead DEFENDING our own counrty...(which is obviously much cheaper)...would loosen up a boatload of money that could go to better places. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 298785 United States10/20/2007 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 313344  Bolivia10/20/2007 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Forget about those videos: see this! [link to www.youtube.com] Guys: As a fellow dude I assure you are going to love it. Gals: Learn those moves and you'll take over the world, seriously. |
| FIFTH INSTAR (OP) User ID: 314717 Canada10/20/2007 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Forget about those videos: see this! [link to www.youtube.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 313344Guys: As a fellow dude I assure you are going to love it. Gals: Learn those moves and you'll take over the world, seriously. Alright, I just wouldn't be a man if I didn't agree with you... Normally I wouldn't even bother with some cheap tart, but Daammmnnn....  |
| Neesie User ID: 272356 United States10/20/2007 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | great to see canadians getting into this stuff... although these videos remain in the top 20 in the US, they do get pushed out of the way by the typical superficial sexual crap that american culture loves Quoting: Anonymous Coward 259160[link to video.google.com] although the farting one is pretty funny Top Countries To Google On Sex, Hitler, Jihad & Hangover looks like americans are getting a bum rap. Sex =Egypt, India and Turkey Hitler = Mexico and Austria Nazi = Chile, Australia and the United Kingdom Gay = Mexico and Colombia Jihad = Morocco, Indonesia, Pakistan Terrorism = Pakistan, Philippines, Australia Hangover = Ireland, United Kingdom, United States Burrito = United States, Argentina, Canada Iraq = United States, Australia, Canada Taliban = Pakistan, Australia, Canada Tom Cruise = Canada, United States, Australia .A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell. C. S. Lewis |
| FIFTH INSTAR (OP) User ID: 314717 Canada10/20/2007 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So we're known for googling - HANGOVER, BURRITO'S, AND TOM CRUISE? How fucking pathetic... These are the hard hitting issues that we use the worlds greatest information resource on? *sigh* I didn't know that the link was from google Canada either...lol...I guess that sort of defeats my whole point...whoops! But good on them! Why is it that all of these truth movies that deal with the Fed reserve and stuff are more widely watched in other countries? That's very weird to me... |
| Neesie User ID: 272356 United States10/20/2007 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So we're known for googling - HANGOVER, BURRITO'S, AND TOM CRUISE? Quoting: FIFTH INSTARHow fucking pathetic... These are the hard hitting issues that we use the worlds greatest information resource on? *sigh* I didn't know that the link was from google Canada either...lol...I guess that sort of defeats my whole point...whoops! But good on them! Why is it that all of these truth movies that deal with the Fed reserve and stuff are more widely watched in other countries? That's very weird to me... yeah but i liked that Ireland googled hangover the most...............interesting...LOL .A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell. C. S. Lewis |
4 a good conversation.