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Finnish Health Authorities say that Covid-19 is not as deadly as it was feared earlier in the spring

 
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Finnish Health Authorities say that Covid-19 is not as deadly as it was feared earlier in the spring
This doesn't seem to be available in English, yet.

[link to www.is.fi (secure)]

In short, the director of health security at the Finnish Institute for Health and Welfare (governmental health authority), Prof. Mika Salminen, issued a statement that Covid-19 is not as deadly as it was feared in the spring.

"In the spring, it looked like the people who got Covid-19 also got severely ill. That is not how it looks like to us anymore. I also spoke with my Spanish colleagues. In the spring, 47% of Covid-19 patients required hospitalization. Now it's just 4%."

While the number of Covid-19 positive tests in Finland has been increasing for some time, the number of hospitalizations and deaths remains very low.

He attributes the decrease in lethality to improved understanding of the disease, better testing and diagnostics, as well as advances in treatment.

"People are also getting better at taking proper precautions."

He adds that he doesn't want to belittle the gravity of the disease in the case of elder people.
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Re: Finnish Health Authorities say that Covid-19 is not as deadly as it was feared earlier in the spring
every voice helps spread the truth
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every voice helps spread the truth
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Note that this guy is not just some random professor. He is the public face of the government when it comes to science of Covid - our Dr. Fauci.
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Re: Finnish Health Authorities say that Covid-19 is not as deadly as it was feared earlier in the spring
Wait what?!

The Finnish officials are actually admitting that Covid-19 is NOT as deadly as they thought?

Why aren't the Finns who lost their business/job to all the scaremongering already rioting?
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Re: Finnish Health Authorities say that Covid-19 is not as deadly as it was feared earlier in the spring
Wait what?!

The Finnish officials are actually admitting that Covid-19 is NOT as deadly as they thought?

Why aren't the Finns who lost their business/job to all the scaremongering already rioting?
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Now, what would that achieve?
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Re: Finnish Health Authorities say that Covid-19 is not as deadly as it was feared earlier in the spring
Wait what?!

The Finnish officials are actually admitting that Covid-19 is NOT as deadly as they thought?

Why aren't the Finns who lost their business/job to all the scaremongering already rioting?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75402320

Now, what would that achieve?
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lol

Quintessentially Finnish...
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Re: Finnish Health Authorities say that Covid-19 is not as deadly as it was feared earlier in the spring
Wait what?!

The Finnish officials are actually admitting that Covid-19 is NOT as deadly as they thought?

Why aren't the Finns who lost their business/job to all the scaremongering already rioting?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75402320

Now, what would that achieve?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78048685


lol

Quintessentially Finnish...
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I've never once seen a Finn get excited. They just sit back ponder and wait like a cat.

I could hand a Finn a check for $1,000,000 and the only reaction I may get would be "Oh, guess I have to go to the bank" stated in a monotone voice. They are the least excitable people. Good for a crisis.
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Re: Finnish Health Authorities say that Covid-19 is not as deadly as it was feared earlier in the spring
When you look at what's going in USA and Australia, it's weird to see news like this.

Victorian government wants to start detaining "high-risk spreaders" and Dr. Fauci says the lockdowns will continue until 2021 even with the vaccine.

Meanwhile, the Finns are sitting back and saying "Oh well, it's not so bad after all. Just carry on what you're doing and we'll be fine."
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Well la di da. Now if only the media would stop with the fear mongering.
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Well la di da. Now if only the media would stop with the fear mongering.
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Isn't this reported in the Finnish media?
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This doesn't seem to be available in English, yet.

[link to www.is.fi (secure)]

In short, the director of health security at the Finnish Institute for Health and Welfare (governmental health authority), Prof. Mika Salminen, issued a statement that Covid-19 is not as deadly as it was feared in the spring.

"In the spring, it looked like the people who got Covid-19 also got severely ill. That is not how it looks like to us anymore. I also spoke with my Spanish colleagues. In the spring, 47% of Covid-19 patients required hospitalization. Now it's just 4%."

While the number of Covid-19 positive tests in Finland has been increasing for some time, the number of hospitalizations and deaths remains very low.

He attributes the decrease in lethality to improved understanding of the disease, better testing and diagnostics, as well as advances in treatment.

"People are also getting better at taking proper precautions."

He adds that he doesn't want to belittle the gravity of the disease in the case of elder people.
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Longer summer days protect everybody with lots of vit D..... wait till the dark winter and no sun.....covid will be back unless you supplement with vit D.
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Re: Finnish Health Authorities say that Covid-19 is not as deadly as it was feared earlier in the spring
This doesn't seem to be available in English, yet.

[link to www.is.fi (secure)]

In short, the director of health security at the Finnish Institute for Health and Welfare (governmental health authority), Prof. Mika Salminen, issued a statement that Covid-19 is not as deadly as it was feared in the spring.

"In the spring, it looked like the people who got Covid-19 also got severely ill. That is not how it looks like to us anymore. I also spoke with my Spanish colleagues. In the spring, 47% of Covid-19 patients required hospitalization. Now it's just 4%."

While the number of Covid-19 positive tests in Finland has been increasing for some time, the number of hospitalizations and deaths remains very low.

He attributes the decrease in lethality to improved understanding of the disease, better testing and diagnostics, as well as advances in treatment.

"People are also getting better at taking proper precautions."

He adds that he doesn't want to belittle the gravity of the disease in the case of elder people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78048685


Longer summer days protect everybody with lots of vit D..... wait till the dark winter and no sun.....covid will be back unless you supplement with vit D.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74470877


bump
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Re: Finnish Health Authorities say that Covid-19 is not as deadly as it was feared earlier in the spring
No shit.
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Re: Finnish Health Authorities say that Covid-19 is not as deadly as it was feared earlier in the spring
The media clearly wants to fear-up people.

If Dr. Salminen had said that Covid-19 is a serious threat, the media would be hyping it to no end. This positive news was reported by one major paper only.
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Re: Finnish Health Authorities say that Covid-19 is not as deadly as it was feared earlier in the spring
I dug a bit deeper into the Finnish Covid-19 statistics.

[link to thl.fi (secure)]

A total of 339 people have died of causes attributed to Covid-19.

The definition for a Covid-19 death is as follows:

"It is estimated that COVID-19 has been involved in the chain of events leading to the death, if the patient has died within one month of testing positive."

So, if the immediate cause of death was a heart attack but the patient has been tested positive for Covid-19 within a month, the death will be attributed to Covid-19.
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Re: Finnish Health Authorities say that Covid-19 is not as deadly as it was feared earlier in the spring
I dug a bit deeper into the Finnish Covid-19 statistics.

[link to thl.fi (secure)]

A total of 339 people have died of causes attributed to Covid-19.

The definition for a Covid-19 death is as follows:

"It is estimated that COVID-19 has been involved in the chain of events leading to the death, if the patient has died within one month of testing positive."

So, if the immediate cause of death was a heart attack but the patient has been tested positive for Covid-19 within a month, the death will be attributed to Covid-19.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78048685

It is near-impossible to give an exact cause of death anyway.

If someone dies of a heart attack, do you attribute it to a fault in heart's electrical circuit, blocked veins, vagus-nerve or something else.

Cause of death is always more or less a guess.
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Re: Finnish Health Authorities say that Covid-19 is not as deadly as it was feared earlier in the spring
why are these people going out of their way
to downplay what is obviously a deadly Pandemic?
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Re: Finnish Health Authorities say that Covid-19 is not as deadly as it was feared earlier in the spring
Wait what?!

The Finnish officials are actually admitting that Covid-19 is NOT as deadly as they thought?

Why aren't the Finns who lost their business/job to all the scaremongering already rioting?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75402320

Now, what would that achieve?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78048685


lol

Quintessentially Finnish...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75258519


I've never once seen a Finn get excited. They just sit back ponder and wait like a cat.

I could hand a Finn a check for $1,000,000 and the only reaction I may get would be "Oh, guess I have to go to the bank" stated in a monotone voice. They are the least excitable people. Good for a crisis.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77419313


I'm 25 % Finnish. Give me a million dollars and I'd be like 75 % excited.
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Re: Finnish Health Authorities say that Covid-19 is not as deadly as it was feared earlier in the spring
I dug a bit deeper into the Finnish Covid-19 statistics.

[link to thl.fi (secure)]

A total of 339 people have died of causes attributed to Covid-19.

The definition for a Covid-19 death is as follows:

"It is estimated that COVID-19 has been involved in the chain of events leading to the death, if the patient has died within one month of testing positive."

So, if the immediate cause of death was a heart attack but the patient has been tested positive for Covid-19 within a month, the death will be attributed to Covid-19.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78048685

It is near-impossible to give an exact cause of death anyway.

If someone dies of a heart attack, do you attribute it to a fault in heart's electrical circuit, blocked veins, vagus-nerve or something else.

Cause of death is always more or less a guess.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70390093


ostensibly, all of these people who are under observation and treatment
are exhibiting the symptoms of Covid-19. but,
even with a population of only 5 Million, three hundred and some such
is still a pretty low number of deaths.
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09/16/2020 07:58 AM
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Re: Finnish Health Authorities say that Covid-19 is not as deadly as it was feared earlier in the spring
every voice helps spread the truth
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He is not spreading the whole truth though

The ruse has been as follows in each our countries:
1. Limit available testing. This artificially INCREASES the death rate.
2. Once they scared us shitless with the death numbers, then and only then did they make tests available to the public.
3. Once that happened, there were no more flu deaths to record as covid deaths so they jumped on board by scaring people silly with testing numbers.
More tests equals DECREASE death rate.

This man admits none of that. He won’t give up the ruse
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Many doctors and epidemiologist new early on - and reported early on - that the preliminary deaths rates based on limited testing proved that there was not a deadly contagion about.

This man knew that then.
And yet he won’t admit it
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Gay/ Street Drug using , Obese and Old People are always on Deaths Door.
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Spread by Junkies and Homos.





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