ZetaTalk LIVE Chat Oct 20

You have made it clear that your POSITION is that the "official explanation" is that the bridge collapse was caused by BIRD POOP.

As always, you are completely full of shit.

LOL - and if anyone actually goes through all the trouble of getting and providing links that actually do throw some doubt
on your position, you IGNORE all their work and leave them "uncompensated". I've seen this happen were such a response gets NO response, and instead the topic is quickly changed and ten or so posts happen so that said answer gets buried on a page no one is likely to revisit.

You guys run a SLICK operation indeed.

But aren't you Nancy supporters guilty of the same thing? Any time a reasonable explanation is offered, you all immediately dismiss it. When it was explained why Nancy is wrong about the Earth being halted in orbit, you all dismissed it. When it was explained why Nancy is wrong about the Earth being tilted back and forth to simulate the seasons, you all dismissed it. You ignore all facts and observations that can be very easily verified if you took the time. I've seen woo-woos dodge and evade questions because those questions were too difficult. I guess your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

You guys run a SLICK operation indeed. Nancy must be proud.

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"LOL - and if anyone actually goes through all the trouble of getting and providing links that actually do throw some doubt
on your position, you IGNORE all their work and leave them "uncompensated". I've seen this happen were such a response gets NO response, and instead the topic is quickly changed and ten or so posts happen so that said answer gets buried on a page no one is likely to revisit.

You guys run a SLICK operation indeed."

I agree, isn't that one of the most annoying things! Waste all that time putting together a cast iron case and for what?

As a member of the United States National Defense Force Support Command,we are tasked with teaching people how to survive a disaster. With that goes the information to have at least 3 days of food ,water, medicines, etc per person in your family. There should be 3 places of deposition. Home, Car, work. So where ever you are trapped, you will have in place materials, or if you need to evacuate quickly.. it is in your vehicle.

In a natural disaster, it will take at least 3 days for rescue personnel to be called, packed, and travel distance to the area. You will need to be prepared for that amount of time.. minimum. It may even take longer for rescue. Some places in Mississippi in Katrina... it was weeks.

For the Bird flu. If it is real and hits. A month's supply should be stored for your family. If you are quarantined, you will not be allowed to leave your house. If you do.. against quarantine.. we have been advised that people breaking quarantine will be shot to avoid spread. Our information is this. It Takes @ 3 days to develop sympotoms..3 days to die after onset of symptoms. If you survivre past the 6 days you will probably live. But then, other people in your family will go through their cycle. If there are several in your family, it may take a month for the disease to run its course throughout the family.

Without any preparation for a PlanetX scenario... you should have at least the minimum of a month per each. It would be wise to have extra.

If you are preparing as you should, and have ANY inkling that a diaster, such as Planet X could occur... should you not prepare accordingly? It is up to you. But the Bird Flu would be the clear and present danger.

As to the rest. I guess you use your best judgment. When any disaster hits the wall, travel, communications, and grocery stores amy not be available. If they are... well panicked procrastenators may be a problem as killing and looting would probably be the norm. And.. as I said...it will be at least 3 or more days before help could arive.. if possible.

Go to FEMA.gov and either request a free copy of ARE YOU READY...Course 22 to be mailed to you. Or you can read and print it online.

I hope this answers your question.

AS to anyone being thrilled at other's suffering. I cannot say. I do not believe I have read it. But I have not read much in Zeta Talk.. so I cannot say for sure. But my feelings off Nancy is that she is a caring individual. Whatever she is telling you, I think comes from best intent to help. Just my feeling.

I hate to tell you this, but if your "Planet X" scenario actually happened...3 days worth of supplies isn't going to be nearly enough.

I have followed up on Nancy's links DOZENS of times. They are ALWAYS misleading, misquoting, mischaracterizing and/or obfuscating, or just sheer bullshit. Go ahead. Offer one. I don't even know what subject we are on now, but go ahead. I will try to find the time to wade through the morass of gobbldygook I know I will find there.

Right now I have other stuff to do, but I'll look at whatever links you offer later on.

And I hate to say that I have to agree with Circuit Breaker. So how much is enough?

ANSWER - there is no amount that is too much since no matter the amount, it will be used up in short order. For indeed, if you save a lot, others' WILL discover this sooner rather than later, and you'll be FORCED to share. So there is no easy answer to this question. Follow your gut and do what you CAN. Do get SEEDS - non-hybird, heirloom. After that, BOOKS on survival knowledge - for these can be read NOW. (Also get, and get in the habit, of storing these books in ZIPLOCK bags - after the shift such books should ONLY be exposed to air when in use - otherwise they should be sealed in a ZIPLOCK AT ALL TIMES. The post-shift environment will be EXTREMELY humid and wet - almost constantly. Books exposed to the air for more than a few minutes will start to swell, and eventually MOLD and ROT. Take steps to protect them NOW. KNOWLEDGE is the most important thing you can acquire NOW. Otherwise, follow your intuition. Rice and Beans are cheap, and a great deal can be purchased for very little cost. SALT - as much as you can. It is not only needed for life, but without refrigeration, is nature's best preservative. No amount is too much. Finally, for those TRULY dedicated, follow the Troubled Times links you can access via www.zetatalk.com. There's enough there to keep you more than busy between now and the shift.

Thanks for the replies guys.

I was asking what you as individuals have done, not what you would advise, anyway I want to let you know that I have actually learnt something from this thread that I had not thought of myself. If such a devestating scenario should chance upon our poor souls, I had not accounted for the soggy books, I'm serious, that's a good point, the written word and instruction may be the only thing that could potentially save your life. Well done Zetamax! But, tell me, have you made the preparations that you suggest? (BTW, the mention of rice and beans, cheap, it just reminds me of someone I 'know')


Zetamax said:

"The post-shift environment will be EXTREMELY humid and wet - almost constantly. Books exposed to the air for more than a few minutes will start to swell, and eventually MOLD and ROT. Take steps to protect them NOW. KNOWLEDGE is the most important thing you can acquire NOW. Otherwise, follow your intuition. Rice and Beans are cheap, and a great deal can be purchased for very little cost. SALT - as much as you can. It is not only needed for life, but without refrigeration, is nature's best preservative. No amount is too much."

"Ok, heres my question.

Let's say the Zetas are

a) real and talking to Nancy

b) telling the truth regarding why they are talking with Nancy

Bearing in mind points a and b, it would seem that the Zetas have the best interests of the STO people at heart? Would you agree with that?

If they do care about warning people to prepare, wouldn't it be far easier to show all the STO people a sign directly?

I have another question,

Nancy says that there are other people in the world that are in contact with the Zetas, what is their purpose in all of this? I don't see anyone else having a Zetatalk website?

I do believe that you are devoting your lives to chasing each others tails. Co-operation would be a good sign of STO?? would it not?"



I think you have it right, the best interests of those thinking of others as much as themselves have the advantage on Earth right now and especially in the future ... maybe not monitarily or in social position, but spiritually for sure. Being that Earth is designated as a home to STO Zetas in the future, they certainly have an interest there as well as STO humans as their co-habitants.
If all STO humans received a concrete sign I think it could easily be taken advantage of by the STS elite and powerbrokers of the world. And it is completely individual who gets signs and who wants signs from 4th density. Some people here are already living STO in this world and don't need and signs because they are living as they should and probably from plans made before birth.

I believe many people are in contact with the Zetas and many with their own personal plans and many involve each other. I think co-operation between individuals with similar plans will increase as we go forward with help from STO groups within this galaxy. Nancy's site is but one information source of many, albeit a pretty vast source, but others may be doing things just as important for completely other reasons. Things we know very little about ... maybe in the future we will know more. In other words, I believe there is much more co-operation than appears on the surface, and part of the debunker plan against Nancy is to misdirect and mislead people away from thinking like this, and especially to make people believe that things like this just don't exist in the first place. They twist words and overall meaning and they especially don't want people to look at the grand picture and to put it all in perspective. They shy away from the biggest theme in Zetatalk, spirituality ... the decision we are all to make re. STS vs. STO, like cockroaches do to the light. They really do come across as selfish blowhards, and in NO way do they want people to think about the message that Zetatalk is.
Watch the pile-on they always try and do to ZetaMax ... he says he is a fence-sitter, and I believe him. This position is the very worst they have to counter against. It is the most dangerous to them. Heaven's forbid people watch and think about it???

I hope that is enough for now.

Above is me ... I got logged out writing that.

Very inspiring and profound words my words friend! NO QUESTION where your orientation lies. STO through and THROUGH!

User injoy your posts.Don't give up to the rabble rousers.

Your support of ZT- is kindly accepted.

To be honest with you, I didn't recognize the writing and would not have expected such from you, i'm not being disrespectful, it's merely out of sync with my previous 'judgement' of you (I know we shouldnt judge each other but it's human nature). You talk a lot of sense in the above post, why don't you always do so?

It is absolutely undeniable that the earth is going through changes of some description. The most important thing is that those that choose to rely on science alone don't become overly obstinate >IF< the signs do increase, be honest and genuinely investigate why. I'm not talking about planet X per se, simply anything of a similar ilk.

Were all dead per planet X. So debunkers not needed.

Please tend to your last needed affairs,or else.

I have no problem with people looking and thinking about it. The problem I have is when people just accept "zetas" lies and pass them on as if they were "information" when the have no reason to accept "zetas" stories other than BELIEF.

Most recent example is the guy who said that we all should "do your own research". However, when challenged to show what "research" he had done to confirm that Earth was halted in orbit, he said he had learned to "trust". In other words, he had not done what he, himself, said should be done. He just relies on BELEIF, instead.

He slinked away and never answered the challenge to show his "research".

Typical.

"It is absolutely undeniable that the earth is going through changes of some description. The most important thing is that those that choose to rely on science alone don't become overly obstinate >IF< the signs do increase, be honest and genuinely investigate why. I'm not talking about planet X per se, simply anything of a similar ilk."



I completely AGREE with you. 100 percent!
Keeping an open mind is the most important thing people can do right now ... especially regarding Earth changes. Planet X or no Planet X, people will see the truth eventually if they are watching, and not too afraid to act. AND, this is exactly what the debunkers are SO trying NOT to get people to do or see. They constantly, and have been for 5 years at GLP , claiming "all is normal" ... move along. This is plain wrong, and very arrogant at the least. It is actually dangerous for people to listen or read them. For instance, Circuit Breaker was trying to get people to put their guards down when Katrina was approaching Florida as he said that it probably wasn't even going to reach hurricane strength ... in other words, telling them in a way, not to worry. Afterwards, he tried to wiggle and squirm away from his words and their meaning, and I doubt he fooled many. This dangerous, don't worry ... all is normal approach in today's day and world is careless, and shows how little these debunkers actually care for their fellow human co-habitants.

I consider these guys dangerous to mankind, and if it takes me time to expose them and their lies re Nancy's message, I will do that, and sometimes I may come across sharp or not patient at all with them. This is part of being human and hating what they represent //... not thinking ... absolute ridicule if you don't follow their science theories ... not being prepared, and if you do what does it matter anyways everybody is going to die anyways train of thought//

I can see right through these selfish souls, and what I see isn't good. I am here to learn some more AND to counter them. If I have given you the wrong impression of me, my appologies.

AND I doubt these debunkers are going to be a part of this planet going forward ... just a hunch ... with OR without the appearance of PlanetX.

Later alligator.


OH, ZetaMax and the AC above... high five five, my friends!!!

Three days is the minimum on hand for floods, quakes, tornadoes, hurricanes..etc. For that is about the earliest help could arrive.

1 month bird flu.

I said for Planet X use your judgement. I think someone recommended 3 months. I do not know, Mormons have a year supply cached away.

I never said 3 days for Planet X.

"He slinked away and never answered the challenge to show his "research".

Typical."



MeNow, did you for one second think maybe, just maybe, he was sick of YOU and your hollow questions? He may be here reading this right now, for all you know. Nobody has to answer your questions Menow, get that!
You are one arrogant ass to make a statement like that. This is GLP ... a place where people can discuss topics in any range, and nobody has to bring proof for you OR your friends for their stories to be true. It's a forum designed for discussion and about what people might think or feel about things. Your words ALWAYS have the stink of government agent on them Menow ... why do you think that is???

These debunker challenges ... why do they all do this? The way they do this shows a level of organization. AND, who do they think they are fooling?



Later ... again!

HIGH STINK INDEED!!!

Message for Menow:

Of course, "debunkers", in general, have NOT said that.
We have certainly said things like: "The Moon is in it's NORMAL orbit.", etc, but "all is normal" is NOT the debunker story. It is just easy for you to PRETEND it is, so you can use it as a strawman-- easy to knock down.

Nancy makes claims. If they are false, we say so and show why. You screech "PAID" and ignore the facts presented.

That's pretty much how it goes. Kinda like the way you just shrieked that "zetas" don't talk about poleshift dates. They did, and do, and I showed the relevent passages. You just continue your usual prattle and ignore the fact that I was right.

Having supplies for a disaster depends on your location and the nature of the disaster, that being said having 30 days of food and water on hand is best considered minimum, however for one person thats 60 litres or 20 gallons of water, not practical for your car, so aim for 5 days in your car and 30 days at home, minimum.

Now as for Planet X, according to Nancy's version 90% of EVERYTHING dies, looking at the mechanics of flipping the earth and completely rearranging the earth's surface I would suggest 98% is a closer figure, that includes, plants, insects, animals, birds and humans.

If you want to prepare for Planet X type doom I would suggest you do nothing, panic sex for some or just kiss your arse goodbye.

Oh boy!!

:you_a_loon:

Luserboy........ :Memo2u:

Right. I never said everything is normal. Big changes are happening, but they have nothing to do with Nancy and her imaginary zetas and planet x. The moon is where it should be, so is the sun, and obviously, the earth is not halted in orbit. As usual, it is all or nothing for these sheep. If you don't blindly believe Nancy, you are in denial and paid to debunk. What a crock of shit.

For your information, I have been prepared to survive 4 months on my own since the early 80s. And that doesn't mean stock piling and saving seeds. In a real disaster, especially one of the magnitude proposed by Nancy, stock piling and seeds are useless. Have you ever wondered what would happen if you were caught away from home when a disaster occurs? What good is all that food and supplies? Unless you can carry that all with you wherever you go, there is a good chance you will just be spending money you don't need to spend, unless you plan on staying in your bunker your whole life in case something happens.

I have integrated knowledge into my life style and it comes naturally to me now. My life has been simplified, my needs are very few, and I am not afraid of fending for myself. I have organized disaster prevention and community organization during times of crisis. I don't just come on the net and spew shit. I actually DO things. Not that I expect imminent doom, but I have lived in some places that are very disaster prone, and after a particularly scary one that I lived through, I realized that in such situations we are on our own. Humans really need a lot less than we think to survive. Mostly, we need to keep our wits about us.

I am not the scientific type, I have studied anthropology, mysticism and metaphysics for most of my life and I am a healer. I know with my brain that Nancy is full of shit. My academic education tells me so. On a spiritual level, I can see the negativity generated by Nancy and the way it hooks onto others and affects their energy. She is like a detour in the road, she takes people off their path and leads them into dark forests where some will be lost or eaten by wolves.

So if it smells like shit, looks like shit and all tests suggest it is shit, then I am comfortable concluding zeta talk is indeed bullshit.