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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79293431 Germany 09/25/2020 11:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is well-known history, they just don't teach it anymore. Why do you think the white Americans were big on black slavery? They certainly weren't needed, there were plenty of poor whites already working the fields ie the Irish. So what was the core reason? Answer: REVENGE |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79177080 United States 09/25/2020 11:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Between 50 and 67 percent of white immigrants to the American colonies, from the 1630s and American Revolution, had traveled under indenture. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79177080 Between 50 and 67 percent of white immigrants to the American colonies, from the 1630s and American Revolution, had traveled under indenture. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79177080 United States 09/25/2020 11:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Between 50 and 67 percent of white immigrants to the American colonies, from the 1630s and American Revolution, had traveled under indenture. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79177080 Between 50 and 67 percent of white immigrants to the American colonies, from the 1630s and American Revolution, had traveled under indenture. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79293431 Germany 09/25/2020 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Between 50 and 67 percent of white immigrants to the American colonies, from the 1630s and American Revolution, had traveled under indenture. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79177080 Between 50 and 67 percent of white immigrants to the American colonies, from the 1630s and American Revolution, had traveled under indenture. Oh, I thought this was an actual thread for discussion. You’re simply replying to yourself over and over. So many children on this site. 1 Star. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79293431 Germany 09/25/2020 11:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, it comes from Slava which means Glory. Slavs named themselves, not the other way around. I’m out of here, you people are all stupid. Ban me please. That doesn't even make sense. Their is no glory in slavery. Etymology sources agree with me. Hey dim bulb, the word SLAV comes from SLAVA. SLAVA means GLORY. Do a simple translate and then go read history, you absolute imbecile. Waiting for my ban... I think you dun burnt yourself out going for that bright light, little moth. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79293431 Germany 09/25/2020 11:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79293431 No, it comes from Slava which means Glory. Slavs named themselves, not the other way around. I’m out of here, you people are all stupid. Ban me please. That doesn't even make sense. Their is no glory in slavery. Etymology sources agree with me. Hey dim bulb, the word SLAV comes from SLAVA. SLAVA means GLORY. Do a simple translate and then go read history, you absolute imbecile. Waiting for my ban... I think you dun burnt yourself out going for that bright light, little moth. Thought so. Btw, it’s ‘there’ not “their”. You’re not from my country, you are on a masked network. Buh bye! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79408197 United States 09/25/2020 11:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Irish slave trade began when James II sold 30,000 Irish prisoners as slaves to the New World. His Proclamation of 1625 required Irish political prisoners be sent overseas and sold to English settlers in the West Indies. By the mid 1600s, the Irish were the main slaves sold to Antigua and Montserrat (70% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish slaves at this time). From 1641 to 1652, over 500,000 Irish were killed by the English and over 300,000 were sold as slaves. Ireland’s population fell from about 1,500,000 to 600,000 in one single decade. During the 1650s, over 100,000 Irish children between the ages of 10 and 14 were forcibly taken from their parents and sold as slaves in the West Indies, Virginia and New England. Another 52,000 Irish (mostly women and children) were sold to Barbados and Virginia while 30,000 Irish men were sold to the highest bidder. In 1656, Oliver Cromwell ordered that 2000 Irish children be taken to Jamaica and sold as slaves to English settlers. African slaves were very expensive (50 Sterling), they had to be transported long distances and paid for not only in Africa but in the New World. Irish slaves were cheap (no more than 5 Sterling) and most often were either kidnapped from Ireland, prisoners or forcibly removed. They could be worked to death, whipped or branded without it being a crime. Many, many times they were beaten to death and while the death of an Irish slave was a monetary setback, it was far cheaper than the death of an expensive African. Therefore, African slaves were treated much better in Colonial America. The importation of Irish slaves continued well into the eighteenth century, long after the importation of African slaves became the norm. Records state that after the 1798 Irish Rebellion, thousands of Irish slaves were sold to both America and Australia. [link to www.molonlabemedia.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79293431 Germany 09/25/2020 11:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79293431 That doesn't even make sense. Their is no glory in slavery. Etymology sources agree with me. Hey dim bulb, the word SLAV comes from SLAVA. SLAVA means GLORY. Do a simple translate and then go read history, you absolute imbecile. Waiting for my ban... I think you dun burnt yourself out going for that bright light, little moth. Thought so. Btw, it’s ‘there’ not “their”. You’re not from my country, you are on a masked network. Buh bye! floccinaucinihilipilification |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79293431 Germany 09/25/2020 11:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79293431 Hey dim bulb, the word SLAV comes from SLAVA. SLAVA means GLORY. Do a simple translate and then go read history, you absolute imbecile. Waiting for my ban... I think you dun burnt yourself out going for that bright light, little moth. Thought so. Btw, it’s ‘there’ not “their”. You’re not from my country, you are on a masked network. Buh bye! floccinaucinihilipilification The text is irrelevant, my mind/hands when typing like to default to 'their'. Phonetically they are the same so it seems to be a convenient thing to skip analyzing when making a two second post. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79408197 United States 09/25/2020 11:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In 1670 the Governor of Virginia said that he had 2000 Blackand 6000 White slaves. Hundreds of thousands of whites in colonial America were owned outright by their masters and died in slavery. Even the blacks knew this. If they were made to work too hard they accused their masters of treating them like the Irish Protestant Slaves Cromwell did not only enslave Catholics. Poor white Protestants on the English mainland fared no better. In February, 1656 he ordered his soldiers to find 1,200 poor English women for enslavement and deportation to the colonies. In March he repeated the order but increased the quota to 2,000 young women of England. In the same year, Cromwells Council of State ordered all the homeless poor of Scotland, male and female, transported to Jamaica for enslavement (Eric Williams, p. 101). Of course, Cromwell and the Puritan ruling class were not the only ones involved in the enslavement of Whites. During the Restoration reign of King Charles II, the monarch with Catholic sympathizers who had been Cromwells arch-enemy, the king enslaved large groups of poor Presbyterians and Scottish Covenanters and deported them to the plantations in turn. [link to www.molonlabemedia.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79408197 United States 09/25/2020 11:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | African slaves were very expensive during the late 1600s (50 Sterling). Irish slaves came cheap (no more than 5 Sterling). If a planter whipped or branded or beat an Irish slave to death, it was never a crime. A death was a monetary setback, but far cheaper than killing a more expensive African. The English masters quickly began breeding the Irish women for both their own personal pleasure and for greater profit. Children of slaves were themselves slaves, which increased the size of the master’s free workforce. Even if an Irish woman somehow obtained her freedom, her kids would remain slaves of her master. Thus, Irish moms, even with this new found emancipation, would seldom abandon their kids and would remain in servitude. In time, the English thought of a better way to use these women (in many cases, girls as young as 12) to increase their market share: The settlers began to breed Irish women and girls with African men to produce slaves with a distinct complexion. These new “mulatto” slaves brought a higher price than Irish livestock and, likewise, enabled the settlers to save money rather than purchase new African slaves. This practice of interbreeding Irish females with African men went on for several decades and was so widespread that, in 1681, legislation was passed “forbidding the practice of mating Irish slave women to African slave men for the purpose of producing slaves for sale.” In short, it was stopped only because it interfered with the profits of a large slave transport company. Do you notice “them” trying to distract you here right now? [link to www.globalresearch.ca (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79408197 United States 09/25/2020 11:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | During the Colonial period, whites did the harder work, such as digging ditches, clearing land, and felling trees. The frontier demands for this kind of heavy manual labor was satisfied primarily by white slaves As late as 1669 those who had large scale plantations were manning them with white slaves, not blacks. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79408197 In 1670 the Governor of Virginia said that he had 2000 Blackand 6000 White slaves. Hundreds of thousands of whites in colonial America were owned outright by their masters and died in slavery. Even the blacks knew this. If they were made to work too hard they accused their masters of treating them like the Irish Protestant Slaves Cromwell did not only enslave Catholics. Poor white Protestants on the English mainland fared no better. In February, 1656 he ordered his soldiers to find 1,200 poor English women for enslavement and deportation to the colonies. In March he repeated the order but increased the quota to 2,000 young women of England. In the same year, Cromwells Council of State ordered all the homeless poor of Scotland, male and female, transported to Jamaica for enslavement (Eric Williams, p. 101). Of course, Cromwell and the Puritan ruling class were not the only ones involved in the enslavement of Whites. During the Restoration reign of King Charles II, the monarch with Catholic sympathizers who had been Cromwells arch-enemy, the king enslaved large groups of poor Presbyterians and Scottish Covenanters and deported them to the plantations in turn. [link to www.molonlabemedia.com] |
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Anonymous User ID: 76732391 United States 09/26/2020 01:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whites especially the Irish were enslaved in greater numbers because they were more trainable for specific tasks in industry. Their availability in numbers drove their market value so they were cheaper to buy than the blacks. Both had advantages and disadvantages regarding climate adaptivity, endurance and special necessity. Most of the poor today are descendants of slaves! |
Vision Thing User ID: 79342957 United States 09/26/2020 01:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Irish slave trade began when James II sold 30,000 Irish prisoners as slaves to the New World. His Proclamation of 1625 required Irish political prisoners be sent overseas and sold to English settlers in the West Indies. By the mid 1600s, the Irish were the main slaves sold to Antigua and Montserrat (70% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish slaves at this time). From 1641 to 1652, over 500,000 Irish were killed by the English and over 300,000 were sold as slaves. Ireland’s population fell from about 1,500,000 to 600,000 in one single decade. During the 1650s, over 100,000 Irish children between the ages of 10 and 14 were forcibly taken from their parents and sold as slaves in the West Indies, Virginia and New England. Another 52,000 Irish (mostly women and children) were sold to Barbados and Virginia while 30,000 Irish men were sold to the highest bidder. In 1656, Oliver Cromwell ordered that 2000 Irish children be taken to Jamaica and sold as slaves to English settlers. African slaves were very expensive (50 Sterling), they had to be transported long distances and paid for not only in Africa but in the New World. Irish slaves were cheap (no more than 5 Sterling) and most often were either kidnapped from Ireland, prisoners or forcibly removed. They could be worked to death, whipped or branded without it being a crime. Many, many times they were beaten to death and while the death of an Irish slave was a monetary setback, it was far cheaper than the death of an expensive African. Therefore, African slaves were treated much better in Colonial America. The importation of Irish slaves continued well into the eighteenth century, long after the importation of African slaves became the norm. Records state that after the 1798 Irish Rebellion, thousands of Irish slaves were sold to both America and Australia. [link to www.molonlabemedia.com] They don't teach that in America BUT THE IRISH REMEMBER. Also here's something I never knew (but should have). So, when a famous archaeological dig was happening on the East Coast to find "Martin's Hundred" an early colony, they looked for records of the layout of colonial forts but couldn't find what corresponded until they looked in Ireland where the English had built forts and started colonies at the same time as America and their buildings were laid out in a similar fashion. I never knew the English had brutally colonized Ireland that way and just moved in and took over and seized the land and sent English people there and forced the Irish out. I mean I sort of knew, but not really any details. As an American I'm kind of ignorant of these things BUT THE IRISH REMEMBER. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79408869 United States 09/26/2020 02:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whites especially the Irish were enslaved in greater numbers because they were more trainable for specific tasks in industry. Quoting: Anonymous 76732391 Their availability in numbers drove their market value so they were cheaper to buy than the blacks. Both had advantages and disadvantages regarding climate adaptivity, endurance and special necessity. Most of the poor today are descendants of slaves! The majority of the passengers on the Mayflower were slaves. They didn't even want to get off the ship. Look up the Mayflower compact. Read between the lines. It is bullshit and tells you much of what you need to know. Pay attention to the language. Research the “More” children who were owned by William Brewster etc.. The “offical” story is utter nonsense. Just like all of the effort put into convincing people "indentured servants" were not slaves, and that Africans had it much worse etc. Read the Virginia slave laws in the Library of Congress. There was little difference, except white slaves had it FAR worse in many ways. It is all there for those who look. It is indisputable. So why do they try to convince you otherwise? Figure it out. The descendants of William Brewster and the other Mayflower elite slave masters that came over make up the majority of the elite in America today. Trace the ancestry. America was and is a white slave colony. Mostly Irish. Ever wonder why so many blacks have Irish last names? The answer is horrible. They hide so much. |
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