Armenia and Azerbaijan WAR! Stepanakert under Azeri fire now! pg 149 | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77733309 Switzerland 09/30/2020 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Turkey has expressed extreme annoyance by the visit of US Secretary of State to Greece. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79435357 In particular, a spokesperson for Turkey’s ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) accused US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo of unilateralism and said his attitude is inelegant. Ömer Çelik, the AKP spokesperson, even called on Pompeo to maintain a neutral stance because unilateral visits and statements give the wrong messages. At the same time, he once again made provocative statements regarding Ankara’s intentions in Greek-Turkish issues in the East Mediterranean. “Turkey is a country of diplomacy if they want to solve the problem with diplomacy, but if they do not want, we will solve it on the battlefield,” he said. [link to greekcitytimes.com (secure)] turkey has clearly become a hostile country, needs to be booted from nato and introduce crippling economic sanctions on them. these fxckers started a war in syria, libya, almost against greece if the french dont threated them and now armenia. one miscalculation is enough and we can get into a war with russia over some turkish phony war. i say boot them and destroy them. |
RomanianGuy User ID: 79399097 Romania 09/30/2020 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: RomanianGuy In that case there'd be no way to spot them from satellite since there'd be no way to differentiate from regular artillery. The satellite thing indicates we're talking about large ballistic missiles - Iskander. A satellite cannot distinguish between the 7 different types of warhead that an Iskander contains, nor can it determine whether it is fitted with a nuclear warhead. Armenia has Iskanders. I don't know if they have nuclear warheads for any of them. Azeri's may have Iskanders. IDK for sure. That claim however appears to be bunk. Unsourced and vague. Yes, of course, didn't say they could. And I don't think they have nuclear warheads. But Iskanders is probably what that source thought when they wrote "nuclear artillery shells". The "source" claimed to be quoting an American intel community leak. That leak supposedly stated that US spy satelites detected nuclear artillery shells being moved. If the American IC was going to leak intel, it would be specific. You wouldn't have to guess at what it "actually" meant to say. If the "source" can write in English, they can read English. Taken at face value this leak LITERALLY says the US satellite picked up a shipment of nuclear artillery shells being moved. They would be on their way to a location where they would be married to artillery pieces capable of firing them. If they were nuclear warheads meant to be fitted to a balistic missle, that is what the leak would have said. I saw no link so I didn't take the "source" seriously. I thought no way they could spot a certain type of artillery shells unless that type alone is linked to a specific storage site or unit. But since when does Azerbaijan (I first saw it as "Armenia") has known nuclear capabilities? |
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MaybeTrollingUAgain User ID: 79194158 Brazil 09/30/2020 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Turkey has expressed extreme annoyance by the visit of US Secretary of State to Greece. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79435357 In particular, a spokesperson for Turkey’s ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) accused US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo of unilateralism and said his attitude is inelegant. Ömer Çelik, the AKP spokesperson, even called on Pompeo to maintain a neutral stance because unilateral visits and statements give the wrong messages. At the same time, he once again made provocative statements regarding Ankara’s intentions in Greek-Turkish issues in the East Mediterranean. “Turkey is a country of diplomacy if they want to solve the problem with diplomacy, but if they do not want, we will solve it on the battlefield,” he said. [link to greekcitytimes.com (secure)] turkey has clearly become a hostile country, needs to be booted from nato and introduce crippling economic sanctions on them. these fxckers started a war in syria, libya, almost against greece if the french dont threated them and now armenia. one miscalculation is enough and we can get into a war with russia over some turkish phony war. i say boot them and destroy them. Maybe that's the goal? Or does it sound way to far fetched for you? MaybeTrollingUAgain |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79406912 United Kingdom 09/30/2020 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Israel siding with Muslim Azeris against Christians surprise surprise. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79391337 Fourth Azeri heavylifter in less than a week heading (prob) Israel AF base down south. 4k- [link to twitter.com (secure)] Not supprising. Israel proberbly wants to call in the favour to azerbijan at some time to launch strikes against Iran, giving Iran virtually no time to react to defend. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72429783 United States 09/30/2020 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Azerbaijan is a US puppet. Turkey is just playing along. Easy, considering they are basically the same people with a mutually intelligible language and are the invaders who misplaced lots of people off the Near East during the Dark Ages and didn't finish the job properly. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79434890 No one has ever wanted to fully commit to pushing Armenians out of Armenians. It’s a guerrilla’s fantasy land. And it’s not worth a whole lot. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77047423 United States 09/30/2020 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | MCOMM - American IC leak that American spy satellites have detected tactical nuclear artillery shells being moved into the theater of operations by Azerbaijan proxies. Serious escalation if confirmed This seems an Janey statement. No link. Then it is own made up Janey called Irans moves after those ships were hit. She stated the oil fields would be hit in Saudi Arabia about 3 days before it happened. I still have it all on my FB. So all of Janeys intel was not made up period. |
roguetechie81 User ID: 77789316 United States 09/30/2020 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | MCOMM - American IC leak that American spy satellites have detected tactical nuclear artillery shells being moved into the theater of operations by Azerbaijan proxies. Serious escalation if confirmed And by "nuclear artillery shells" whoever wrote that probably means the Iskander ballistic missiles. In the case of former Soviet satellites it's actually far more likely to refer to nuclear artillery shells which the Russians made a fuckhuge amount of and everyone is pretty sure quite a few of went missing during the breakup of the Soviet Union. In that case there'd be no way to spot them from satellite since there'd be no way to differentiate from regular artillery. The satellite thing indicates we're talking about large ballistic missiles - Iskander. You wouldn't be able to spot iskander nuclear payloads from COMMERCIAL SATELLITES either. You don't think you need entire nuclear iskanders do you? You don't, the payloads are swappable easily and quickly. Beyond that, iskander is too new to have off the books nuclear payload modules that could have potentially been stolen, misplaced, or diverted for them. Ergo, it can't be iskander payloads and even if it was an iskander payload it would be pretty close to the same size as a nuclear artillery shell. Not exactly the same size but within a standard deviation of sizes that would put them in the same detectability thresholds of any given satellite or satellites. The actual payload part of tactical nuclear weapons is nowhere near as large as most people believe. Honestly, that tweet doesn't do much for me since it would depend on big boy grade satellites to spot the size of packages we're discussing whether those who tweeted that know it or not. roguetechie |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78898510 Canada 09/30/2020 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think this attack on Russia serves two purposes: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79434890 -Prevent Russia help Americans in the coming civil war -Disperse Russian troops so they won't grab too much land in the coming power vacuum when the US fights the civil war. there isn't going to be any American civil war dude Democrats are spoiled children throwing a tantrum when they don’t get their way,soon it will be time to spank and send them to their room! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78898510 Canada 09/30/2020 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | MCOMM - American IC leak that American spy satellites have detected tactical nuclear artillery shells being moved into the theater of operations by Azerbaijan proxies. Serious escalation if confirmed :megabs: and you know it. Please quit shilling. Well if any “ammo dumps” go up with towering Mushroom clouds and everyone cowering for miles |
Anward User ID: 79435740 Germany 09/30/2020 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | American spy satellites discovered, lol. They have names no? Vivid aerial transport movements registered guess from where to where. Flightradar24 platform clearly shows that 2 different cargo planes of Azerbaijani Silk way airlines are operating flights from Baku to Israel and back. Azi war news conference military speaker today totally under shock ... speechless not answered any questions. Poor brave tiny Christian Armenia the size of Israel and a quarter of population defending against 100 Million Muslim enemies facing final genocide when losing. When you can't solve a small problem create a bigger one. Armenia not falling, so nukes come in. Unbelievable! Don't believe the BS-lie from old SU nukes. That are FRESH high tec mini nukes as harbinger what comes next for IRAN. |
Snuffielover User ID: 79350855 Russia 09/30/2020 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Absolutely not a single mention of this conflict in Norwegian, or Russian evening news. I find that very strange. If any foreign minister begins to defend to the death a "peace conference," you can be sure his government has already placed its orders for new battleships and aeroplanes. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76195090 United States 09/30/2020 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | MCOMM - American IC leak that American spy satellites have detected tactical nuclear artillery shells being moved into the theater of operations by Azerbaijan proxies. Serious escalation if confirmed :megabs: and you know it. Please quit shilling. Well if any “ammo dumps” go up with towering Mushroom clouds and everyone cowering for miles THIS RED INK IS AN EXCUSE FOR ANYONE TO INTRODUCE TAC. NUKE SHELLS INTO THE AREA. IT IS A LEAK...REGARDLESS OF WHO IS DOING IT OR WHOM IS GOING TO GET THE BLAME OR ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY...THE WORDS ALONE ARE AN ESCALATION...SHELL OR NO SHELL. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77733309 Switzerland 09/30/2020 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Turkey has expressed extreme annoyance by the visit of US Secretary of State to Greece. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79435357 In particular, a spokesperson for Turkey’s ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) accused US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo of unilateralism and said his attitude is inelegant. Ömer Çelik, the AKP spokesperson, even called on Pompeo to maintain a neutral stance because unilateral visits and statements give the wrong messages. At the same time, he once again made provocative statements regarding Ankara’s intentions in Greek-Turkish issues in the East Mediterranean. “Turkey is a country of diplomacy if they want to solve the problem with diplomacy, but if they do not want, we will solve it on the battlefield,” he said. [link to greekcitytimes.com (secure)] turkey has clearly become a hostile country, needs to be booted from nato and introduce crippling economic sanctions on them. these fxckers started a war in syria, libya, almost against greece if the french dont threated them and now armenia. one miscalculation is enough and we can get into a war with russia over some turkish phony war. i say boot them and destroy them. Maybe that's the goal? Or does it sound way to far fetched for you? it could be a possibility IF turkey wouldnt be almost at war with greece and france. my theory is that there was a silent military coup in turkey and the de facto turkish leadership is doing these pointless wars. other option is that erdogan uses these proxy wars as an excuse to give exercise for the military and decrease coup risk. one thing is sure since the failed coup turkey have been getting involved in everything. |
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RomanianGuy User ID: 79399097 Romania 09/30/2020 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: RomanianGuy And by "nuclear artillery shells" whoever wrote that probably means the Iskander ballistic missiles. In the case of former Soviet satellites it's actually far more likely to refer to nuclear artillery shells which the Russians made a fuckhuge amount of and everyone is pretty sure quite a few of went missing during the breakup of the Soviet Union. In that case there'd be no way to spot them from satellite since there'd be no way to differentiate from regular artillery. The satellite thing indicates we're talking about large ballistic missiles - Iskander. You wouldn't be able to spot iskander nuclear payloads from COMMERCIAL SATELLITES either. You don't think you need entire nuclear iskanders do you? You don't, the payloads are swappable easily and quickly. Beyond that, iskander is too new to have off the books nuclear payload modules that could have potentially been stolen, misplaced, or diverted for them. Ergo, it can't be iskander payloads and even if it was an iskander payload it would be pretty close to the same size as a nuclear artillery shell. Not exactly the same size but within a standard deviation of sizes that would put them in the same detectability thresholds of any given satellite or satellites. The actual payload part of tactical nuclear weapons is nowhere near as large as most people believe. Honestly, that tweet doesn't do much for me since it would depend on big boy grade satellites to spot the size of packages we're discussing whether those who tweeted that know it or not. To answer your questions that I bolded: Yes, they couldn't. No, I don't. But for laymen when you say ballistic missile they automatically think nuclear. So for me the source showed it was not knowledgeable, and I said that they probably meant to say that the movement of ballistic missiles was spotted by satellites, not of nuclear artillery shells. Lol. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78898510 Canada 09/30/2020 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Turkey has expressed extreme annoyance by the visit of US Secretary of State to Greece. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79435357 In particular, a spokesperson for Turkey’s ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) accused US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo of unilateralism and said his attitude is inelegant. Ömer Çelik, the AKP spokesperson, even called on Pompeo to maintain a neutral stance because unilateral visits and statements give the wrong messages. At the same time, he once again made provocative statements regarding Ankara’s intentions in Greek-Turkish issues in the East Mediterranean. “Turkey is a country of diplomacy if they want to solve the problem with diplomacy, but if they do not want, we will solve it on the battlefield,” he said. [link to greekcitytimes.com (secure)] turkey has clearly become a hostile country, needs to be booted from nato and introduce crippling economic sanctions on them. these fxckers started a war in syria, libya, almost against greece if the french dont threated them and now armenia. one miscalculation is enough and we can get into a war with russia over some turkish phony war. i say boot them and destroy them. And pick the bones clean like a true carpet bagger |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77733309 Switzerland 09/30/2020 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nope! Russian BS. Putin said similar things about Syria, but never acted when his red line was crossed. Armenia, forget Russia, they cant help themselves even. The west will be Your salvation France is comming, hold on. nobody will come from europe, nobody wants to get involved in any wars around here. armenia is useful for russia therefore russia will get involved it is a satellite state bordering turkey, strategically important. armenia also serves as a land blockade for azeri oil to turkey. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69281004 United States 09/30/2020 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no wonder Armenia wants it Armenia needs it more, it has a lot of Armenians living there, so I think im on Armenias side here I think Armenia should also seize that little piece of Azerbaijan thats disconnected and stuck on their west borders also |
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the decider User ID: 79307851 United States 09/30/2020 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nope! Russian BS. Putin said similar things about Syria, but never acted when his red line was crossed. Armenia, forget Russia, they cant help themselves even. The west will be Your salvation France is comming, hold on. nobody will come from europe, nobody wants to get involved in any wars around here. armenia is useful for russia therefore russia will get involved it is a satellite state bordering turkey, strategically important. armenia also serves as a land blockade for azeri oil to turkey. RUSSIA AND ARMENIA ARE BOUND AT THE HIP Armenia and Russia are both members of a military alliance, the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO), along with four other ex-Soviet countries. Military cooperation between Armenia and Russia is based on both states being members of (CSTO) as well as participants in the Joint CIS Air Defense System. Russia maintains in Gyumri (formerly, Alexandropol), north of Yerevan, one of its military bases abroad (102nd Military Base) as part of Russia's Transcaucasian Group of Forces; the relevant treaty was extended until 2044 in 2010.[19] Moscow also undertook to supply Armenia with more weapons and military hardware.[20] On 8 December 2015, the Erebuni base (part of 102nd) was reinforced with six advanced Mi-24P assault helicopters and an Mi-8MT transport helicopter delivered from the Russian Air Force base in the Krasnodar region.[21][22] The Russian border guards directorate in Armenia (c. 4,500 strong) along with the Armenian border guards is responsible for the protection of the Soviet-era border of Armenia with Turkey and Iran.[23] In October 2013, the chief commander of Russia's 102nd military base Andrey Ruzinsky told Russia's official military newspaper, "If Azerbaijan decides to restore jurisdiction over Nagorno-Karabakh by force, the [Russian] military base may join in the armed conflict in accordance with the Russian Federation’s obligations within the framework of the Collective Security Treaty Organization [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Augmented by Grace |