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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79207137 09/28/2020 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A solar flare would send us back a few hundred year for about a year as the entire world loses electricity. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79207137 That is if the world can get their shit together and fix the power. If not it would set us back for longer than a year. My guess is a huge percentage of the population would die. And we're due a solar flare. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72456171 ![]() 09/28/2020 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A solar flare would send us back a few hundred year for about a year as the entire world loses electricity. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79207137 That is if the world can get their shit together and fix the power. If not it would set us back for longer than a year. My guess is a huge percentage of the population would die. And we're due a solar flare. Sounds exciting |
Nonentity User ID: 79315546 ![]() 09/28/2020 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wired to an outlet box Drive a 3 foot conductor into the ground and clamp a wire to it Some plumbing are grounded. As long as there were no PVC inserts from a repair on the conductive pipes separating from earth ground Gas lines are grounded If you have a ham radio you certainly should have a good ground available. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79207137 09/28/2020 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A solar flare would send us back a few hundred year for about a year as the entire world loses electricity. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79207137 That is if the world can get their shit together and fix the power. If not it would set us back for longer than a year. My guess is a huge percentage of the population would die. And we're due a solar flare. Sounds exciting Sounds like hell is more like it. Supposedly we get hit by 1 about every 150 years on average. We haven't had one in over 150 years. We're overdue |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78340688 ![]() 09/28/2020 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Be sure to ground the faraday cages. Quoting: Nonentity Wired to an outlet box Drive a 3 foot conductor into the ground and clamp a wire to it Some plumbing are grounded. As long as there were no PVC inserts from a repair on the conductive pipes separating from earth ground Gas lines are grounded If you have a ham radio you certainly should have a good ground available. Thank you! ![]() |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78340688 ![]() 09/28/2020 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A solar flare would send us back a few hundred year for about a year as the entire world loses electricity. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79207137 That is if the world can get their shit together and fix the power. If not it would set us back for longer than a year. My guess is a huge percentage of the population would die. And we're due a solar flare. Sounds exciting Sounds like hell is more like it. Supposedly we get hit by 1 about every 150 years on average. We haven't had one in over 150 years. We're overdue True that! A lot of HAMs will take a hit, as I’m not sure repeaters etc. are EMF protected, but if ‘locals’ keep their basic HAM equipment EMF protected at least you may be able to get a tip off on something coming, link up with like-minded folks for protection, and so on. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79207137 09/28/2020 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The entire world does not lose electricity due to a solar flare. Maybe the side facing the sun does, but the rest of the world, nope. Quoting: zestor You're talking about small solar flares. I'm talking about a big one like the one in 1859. On Sept. 2, 1859, an incredible storm of charged particles sent by the sun slammed into Earth's atmosphere, overpowered it, and caused havoc on the ground. Telegraph wires, the high-tech stuff of the time, suddenly shorted out in the United States and Europe, igniting widespread fires. Colorful aurora, normally visible only in polar regions, were seen as far south as Cuba and Hawaii. Earth's magnetic field normally protects the surface of the planet from some storms. In 1859, the planet's defenses were totally overwhelmed. Over the past decade, similar but less powerful storms have likewise busted through, giving scientists insight into what will eventually happen again. [link to www.space.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68998005 ![]() 09/28/2020 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Careful transmitting when military is around (Ours, UN, foreign). Your TX will light up like a Christmas tree on a dark night and you’re sure to be triangulated almost immediately. Quoting: Tennessee Patriot Open voice comms may be a problem, the groups I work with are concentrating on digital radio.DMR is much more efficient since it uses a fraction of the bandwidth of FM voice. The extra steps needed to program a DMR radio helps throw road blocks in the path of anyone trying to eavesdrop. That said, security through obscurity isn't good enough, and many of these cheap chinese made DMR radios have encryption available. Using encryption over amateur radio is not allowed, but if things go hot and the rule of law isn't to be found I doubt anyone will be giving anyone else a hard time of the use of encryption. Many people thing DMR is to be used over the internet and fumble around with hotspots and such to wormhole through the interwebs, but the real power comes from being able to hide your signal in plain sight. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78340688 ![]() 09/28/2020 03:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Careful transmitting when military is around (Ours, UN, foreign). Your TX will light up like a Christmas tree on a dark night and you’re sure to be triangulated almost immediately. Quoting: Tennessee Patriot Open voice comms may be a problem, the groups I work with are concentrating on digital radio.DMR is much more efficient since it uses a fraction of the bandwidth of FM voice. The extra steps needed to program a DMR radio helps throw road blocks in the path of anyone trying to eavesdrop. That said, security through obscurity isn't good enough, and many of these cheap chinese made DMR radios have encryption available. Using encryption over amateur radio is not allowed, but if things go hot and the rule of law isn't to be found I doubt anyone will be giving anyone else a hard time of the use of encryption. Many people thing DMR is to be used over the internet and fumble around with hotspots and such to wormhole through the interwebs, but the real power comes from being able to hide your signal in plain sight. Whoa! You’re a few light-years ahead of me. I’m pretty much just getting my feet wet. I’ve overlooked comms for too long. Hope there’s enough time for me to get what I need and into digital before the balloon goes up. ![]() |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68998005 ![]() 09/28/2020 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Careful transmitting when military is around (Ours, UN, foreign). Your TX will light up like a Christmas tree on a dark night and you’re sure to be triangulated almost immediately. Quoting: Tennessee Patriot Open voice comms may be a problem, the groups I work with are concentrating on digital radio.DMR is much more efficient since it uses a fraction of the bandwidth of FM voice. The extra steps needed to program a DMR radio helps throw road blocks in the path of anyone trying to eavesdrop. That said, security through obscurity isn't good enough, and many of these cheap chinese made DMR radios have encryption available. Using encryption over amateur radio is not allowed, but if things go hot and the rule of law isn't to be found I doubt anyone will be giving anyone else a hard time of the use of encryption. Many people thing DMR is to be used over the internet and fumble around with hotspots and such to wormhole through the interwebs, but the real power comes from being able to hide your signal in plain sight. Whoa! You’re a few light-years ahead of me. I’m pretty much just getting my feet wet. I’ve overlooked comms for too long. Hope there’s enough time for me to get what I need and into digital before the balloon goes up. ![]() Check out the radiooddity GD-77, DMR with available encryption for @ $80. They are decent little radios, a little more than the common boefeng, but worth it for the extra features. |
Jake User ID: 77849624 ![]() 09/28/2020 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I Invented a faraday body suit, I'm all good Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78340688 ![]() 09/28/2020 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Careful transmitting when military is around (Ours, UN, foreign). Your TX will light up like a Christmas tree on a dark night and you’re sure to be triangulated almost immediately. Quoting: Tennessee Patriot Open voice comms may be a problem, the groups I work with are concentrating on digital radio.DMR is much more efficient since it uses a fraction of the bandwidth of FM voice. The extra steps needed to program a DMR radio helps throw road blocks in the path of anyone trying to eavesdrop. That said, security through obscurity isn't good enough, and many of these cheap chinese made DMR radios have encryption available. Using encryption over amateur radio is not allowed, but if things go hot and the rule of law isn't to be found I doubt anyone will be giving anyone else a hard time of the use of encryption. Many people thing DMR is to be used over the internet and fumble around with hotspots and such to wormhole through the interwebs, but the real power comes from being able to hide your signal in plain sight. Whoa! You’re a few light-years ahead of me. I’m pretty much just getting my feet wet. I’ve overlooked comms for too long. Hope there’s enough time for me to get what I need and into digital before the balloon goes up. ![]() Check out the radiooddity GD-77, DMR with available encryption for @ $80. They are decent little radios, a little more than the common boefeng, but worth it for the extra features. Will do! Thanks man! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79430044 09/28/2020 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Be sure to ground the faraday cages. Quoting: Nonentity Wired to an outlet box Drive a 3 foot conductor into the ground and clamp a wire to it Some plumbing are grounded. As long as there were no PVC inserts from a repair on the conductive pipes separating from earth ground Gas lines are grounded If you have a ham radio you certainly should have a good ground available. I disagree with this advice in the strongest possible terms. The telluric currents induced in the earth by an NEMP are considerable, and anything connected to a ground rod may well be affected by them. Simply placing equipment in a cardboard box and wrapping the box with several layers of aluminum, then taping it securely, is sufficent. There is no need to ground it. Commercial/industrial faraday cages are indeed usually (but not always) grounded, but they are not designed to deal with an NEMP that can induce strong ground currents. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79430044 09/28/2020 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Be sure to ground the faraday cages. Quoting: Nonentity Wired to an outlet box Drive a 3 foot conductor into the ground and clamp a wire to it Some plumbing are grounded. As long as there were no PVC inserts from a repair on the conductive pipes separating from earth ground Gas lines are grounded If you have a ham radio you certainly should have a good ground available. I disagree with this advice in the strongest possible terms. The telluric currents induced in the earth by an NEMP are considerable, and anything connected to a ground rod may well be affected by them. Simply placing equipment in a cardboard box and wrapping the box with several layers of aluminum, then taping it securely, is sufficent. There is no need to ground it. Commercial/industrial faraday cages are indeed usually (but not always) grounded, but they are not designed to deal with an NEMP that can induce strong ground currents. That should read 'aluminum foil' |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68998005 ![]() 09/28/2020 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Be sure to ground the faraday cages. Quoting: Nonentity Wired to an outlet box Drive a 3 foot conductor into the ground and clamp a wire to it Some plumbing are grounded. As long as there were no PVC inserts from a repair on the conductive pipes separating from earth ground Gas lines are grounded If you have a ham radio you certainly should have a good ground available. I disagree with this advice in the strongest possible terms. The telluric currents induced in the earth by an NEMP are considerable, and anything connected to a ground rod may well be affected by them. Simply placing equipment in a cardboard box and wrapping the box with several layers of aluminum, then taping it securely, is sufficent. There is no need to ground it. Commercial/industrial faraday cages are indeed usually (but not always) grounded, but they are not designed to deal with an NEMP that can induce strong ground currents. I've actually buried a metal trash can into the ground, sticks up only enough to put the lid on. This is inside a metal shop for double protections. I keep 3 transceivers, along with their associated accessories in the box. I've also got AA, and C,D cell batteries, a windup radio, and a small solar charger stashed away in there. I've tried to standardize USB connections for charging wherever possible. What else should I be protecting? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78340688 ![]() 09/28/2020 05:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Be sure to ground the faraday cages. Quoting: Nonentity Wired to an outlet box Drive a 3 foot conductor into the ground and clamp a wire to it Some plumbing are grounded. As long as there were no PVC inserts from a repair on the conductive pipes separating from earth ground Gas lines are grounded If you have a ham radio you certainly should have a good ground available. I disagree with this advice in the strongest possible terms. The telluric currents induced in the earth by an NEMP are considerable, and anything connected to a ground rod may well be affected by them. Simply placing equipment in a cardboard box and wrapping the box with several layers of aluminum, then taping it securely, is sufficent. There is no need to ground it. Commercial/industrial faraday cages are indeed usually (but not always) grounded, but they are not designed to deal with an NEMP that can induce strong ground currents. I've actually buried a metal trash can into the ground, sticks up only enough to put the lid on. This is inside a metal shop for double protections. I keep 3 transceivers, along with their associated accessories in the box. I've also got AA, and C,D cell batteries, a windup radio, and a small solar charger stashed away in there. I've tried to standardize USB connections for charging wherever possible. What else should I be protecting? I love this. Sounds like you’re set. You’ve got me researching DMR also lol |