DRUDGE: PUTIN INVOKES CUBAN MISSLE CRISIS OVER MISSILE DEFENCE

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Cuban missle crisis? Wut dat??

CNN was reporting that Putin said "Bush is running around like a madman with a razor in his hand." Got that right.

nuh-uh...never said that.

They are very worried about America. The Russians are confused and dont understand how they are actually the good guys. They said "If America has lost all its freedoms, some shit is about to happen".

he was certain Moscow’s concerns about the plan had been heard in Washington.

“Our US partners must now consider how to neutralise the threats that we believe are materialising,” he said.

oooh, what threat ;) the shadow govt?

i heard putin was a nwo plant

[link to news.bbc.co.uk]

US state department spokesman Sean McCormack said there were "clear historical differences" with the Cuban crisis.

"I don't think that they are historically analogous in any way, shape or form."

yes. including the fact the ''boys'' will be flying at the end of this ''crisis''.



Everywhere I look, I see roasted

how come presidents dont fight the wars....i think if its your fault you fight it. so if you as a president are going to be a saber rattling dumbass....get out your sword and prepare to duel like they did in the old days. can you imagine if that was the rule? if you as a president got a country into a war because of your ego or rash decision making ...you would have to duel it out...how much different the world would be? let alone the office of the president? i bet mr bush would say as much shit as he does or putin for that matter, or imadinnerjacket :P you would have to listen to the will of the people and reign in your personal agenda...or else the people would put you in the ring.




but i guess for now we will just have to deal with uneducated leaders clutching too much power brainwashing innocent people into war for their own personal gain.

such is life

Yep. He was put in.

O P is a shithead, How can it be invoked, look up the meaning of the word before posting pure shit

steady on 081 - not everyone knows there is a diff btwixt invoke and evoke....

How is a missile DEFENSE shield construed as a threat by the russians

because the 'shield' is made of missiles

Nah. It appears Russia still subscribes to the insane doctrine of Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD). Which says if both sides can wipe each other off the face of the earth then we are safe.
The United States is moving in the direction of mutually assured protection and Putin could do the same and probably has. One thing is for certain - Russia has an up to date arsenal of missles and is developing ones that will penetrate defense systems.

The Russian Armed Forces commissioned more than 30 new types of advanced weapon systems in the first half of 2007, the defense minister said last month.

Anatoly Serdyukov said these weapon systems included the submarine-launched R-29RM Sineva ballistic missiles, the S-400 Triumf air defense complex, and the 120-mm Nona SM-1 towed mortar for Ground Forces.

Serdykov also said Russia conducted test launches of the Yarts land-based ballistic missile, the X-102 airborne missile, and a new version of the Iskander-M ballistic missile capable of carrying multiple warheads, and launched two military reconnaissance and communication satellites.

It has the capability to render inneffective Russian offensive missiles thus it alters the 'balance' of weaponry. However, how secure can the Russians be that the 'shield' is solely defensive? Inspections?

IF the Junited States could destroy incoming missiles, that means that they would be free to launch OFFENSIVE missiles against their imaginary enemies without fear of being destroyed themselves.

Which makes this "defensive" weapon, an offensive weapon, in reality.

It won't work, of course, since there's so many ways to get around a defence like this, but that's what they're trying to do.

The original Russian missiles placed on Cuba were a response to US nuclear weapons being sited in Turkey. The climbdown was the removal of both the Cuban and Turkish missiles.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

I'll tell you something, survive this coming war, and you're quids in. No more Muslims, Russians, Chinese, Indians or Pakistanis or Yanks to worry about.

Fuck, it'll be paradise!



Go on, MAD each other. Go on, DO IT!

DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT!





Shit, or get off the fucking pot!

What wuz the last "sheild" built by the United states?

Desert shield. What happened next?

This is just scare tactics. Ignore it.

No need to swear at anybody. It is the headline at the Drudge Report, concordantly which is why I started with "DRUDGE:".

For myself. ;)

Except for the fact that the other people who have nukes believe it to be so. It is really only their perspective that matters since they have their hand on the nuke trigger.

If the World loves you, and you love the World, You are likely , and enemy, of the Most High.

Putin, bush, Clinton, etc..

ALL..

[link to www.rense.com]

Example above, lol

Maybe this fits here?

[link to www.latimes.com]

he president's warmongering remarks on the Iranian threat suggest he is psychotic. Really.
October 25, 2007

Forget impeachment.

Liberals, put it behind you. George W. Bush and Dick Cheney shouldn't be treated like criminals who deserve punishment. They should be treated like psychotics who need treatment.

Because they've clearly gone mad. Exhibit A: We're in the middle of a disastrous war in Iraq, the military and political situation in Afghanistan is steadily worsening, and the administration's interrogation and detention tactics have inflamed anti-Americanism and fueled extremist movements around the globe. Sane people, confronting such a situation, do their best to tamp down tensions, rebuild shattered alliances, find common ground with hostile parties and give our military a little breathing space. But crazy people? They look around and decide it's a great time to start another war.

That would be with Iran, and you'd have to be deaf not to hear the war drums. Last week, Bush remarked that "if you're interested in avoiding World War III . . . you ought to be interested in preventing [Iran] from having the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon." On Sunday, Cheney warned of "the Iranian regime's efforts to destabilize the Middle East and to gain hegemonic power . . . [we] cannot stand by as a terror-supporting state fulfills its most aggressive ambitions." On Tuesday, Bush insisted on the need "to defend Europe against the emerging Iranian threat."

Huh? Iran is now a major threat to Europe? The Iranians are going to launch a nuclear missile (that they don't yet possess) against Europe (for reasons unknown because, as far as we know, they're not mad at anyone in Europe)? This is lunacy in action.

Writing in Newsweek on Oct. 20, Fareed Zakaria, a solid centrist and former editor of Foreign Affairs, put it best. Citing Bush's invocation of "the specter of World War III if Iran gained even the knowledge needed to make a nuclear weapon," Zakaria concluded that "the American discussion about Iran has lost all connection to reality. . . . Iran has an economy the size of Finland's. . . . It has not invaded a country since the late 18th century. The United States has a GDP that is 68 times larger and defense expenditures that are 110 times greater. Israel and every Arab country (except Syria and Iraq) are . . . allied against Iran. And yet we are to believe that Tehran is about to overturn the international system and replace it with an Islamo-fascist order? What planet are we on?"

Planet Cheney.

Zakaria may be misinterpreting the president's remark about World War III though. He saw it as a dangerously loopy Bush prediction about the future behavior of a nuclear Iran -- the idea being, presumably, that possessing "the knowledge" to make a nuclear weapon would so empower Iran's repressive leaders that they'll giddily rush out and start World War III.

But you could read Bush's remark as a madman's threat rather than a madman's prediction -- as a warning to recalcitrant states, from Germany to Russia, that don't seem to share his crazed obsession with Iran. The message: Fall into line with administration policy toward Iran or you can count on the U.S.A. to try to start World War III on its own. And when it comes to sparking global conflagration, a U.S. attack on Iran might be just the thing. Yee haw!

You'd better believe these guys would do it too. Why not? They have nothing to lose -- they're out of office in 15 months anyway. Après Bush-Cheney, le déluge! (Have fun, Hillary.)

But all this creates a conundrum. What's a constitutional democracy to do when the president and vice president lose their marbles?

The U.S. is full of ordinary people with serious forms of mental illness -- delusional people with violent fantasies who think they're the president, or who think they get instructions from the CIA through their dental fillings.

The problem with Bush is that he is the president -- and he gives instructions to the CIA and military, without having to go through his dental fillings.

Impeachment's not the solution to psychosis, no matter how flagrant. But despite their impressive foresight in other areas, the framers unaccountably neglected to include an involuntary civil commitment procedure in the Constitution.

Still, don't lose hope. By enlisting the aid of mental health professionals and the court system, Congress can act to remedy that constitutional oversight. The goal: Get Bush and Cheney committed to an appropriate inpatient facility, where they can get the treatment they so desperately need. In Washington, the appropriate statutory law is already in place: If a "court or jury finds that [a] person is mentally ill and . . . is likely to injure himself or other persons if allowed to remain at liberty, the court may order his hospitalization."

I'll even serve on the jury. When it comes to averting World War III, it's really the least I can do.

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288148,

Nice words!

Whether or not CNN said it, Bloomberg and Pravda did.

[link to www.bloomberg.com]