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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76667758 Canada 10/18/2020 02:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Acts of aggression is a symptom, not legit reason for war. Quoting: Agent 99 8 Main Reasons for War Economic Gain Territorial Gain Religion Nationalism Revenge Civil War Revolutionary War Defensive War China's Nationalism is at stake. They are being blamed for Covid and pushed into economic collapse. Starting war wouldn't help them gain economically. China has 60,000 troops at the border with India in Kashmir currently. So this move to get their researchers back is probably because they need them. China didn't created and release Covid. Someone set them up for at least 4 of the Reasons for War. More like China is testing the relationship with US, in their decisions about India (since US is allied with India). Opportunity in diplomacy. yes.. but don't discount economic gain.. China needs a lot of food and resources to take care of its population expecting a growing standard of living. Also their much vaunted silk road project is in question now. But you could argue that is needed to be addressed to maintain control of CCP or preserve current Chinese nationalism. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20525770 United States 10/18/2020 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So glad I visited China when I did. Tourist visits to Shanghai and Beijing. Once to Shanghai and four visits to Beijing. Quoting: nutmeg We were treated like celebrities! The people there were so wonderful...everywhere we went, they wanted to take photos with us. Young and old. They were so sweet. I hate to see this conflict happening and feel badly for the people. Half of my family is taiwanese, everyone from taiwan is calling and begging their familys in USA to vote Trump out, they are terrified of a war with China. Taiwan is a tiny island. And half of your family are retards. Democrats are the ones that love war. Sure Trump might talk a big game but honestly he is all bluster. Think about it name one war that Trump has been in? Now look at Obama the man of peace and look at how many covert wars and countries were overthrown by the CIA when he was president. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72191235 United States 10/18/2020 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | China should have did this the first time the Trump administration took the daughter of a Chinese executive hostage. Russia should have done the same when Trump took a Russian gun rights activist hostage. Go China! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79477326 United States 10/18/2020 03:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Israel controls both US and China through blackmail. That’s what Epstein and many others are tasked with doing-blackmail for geopolitical and financial control. It’ll soon come out that Israel is the one keeping the two super powers at odds, pitting one country against the other, forcing both to compete to be Israel’s “strongest ally.” [link to www.cnbc.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79349131 America will son be history. Fact 1 - Fact 2 - Fact 3 - America is dying and will be totally dead soon and very soon. ........let us know how Gulag life is "down under". |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79507231 New Zealand 10/18/2020 03:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Israel controls both US and China through blackmail. That’s what Epstein and many others are tasked with doing-blackmail for geopolitical and financial control. It’ll soon come out that Israel is the one keeping the two super powers at odds, pitting one country against the other, forcing both to compete to be Israel’s “strongest ally.” [link to www.cnbc.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79349131 America will son be history. Fact 1 - Fact 2 - Fact 3 - America is dying and will be totally dead soon and very soon. You Jacinda Arden'd yourself to FASCIST HELL again, you simpering Kiwi sheep-shagger - bugger off! Same devil ruling America is ruling that of ours. May be I should have said it differently. Anyways |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79205761 Austria 10/18/2020 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And half of your family are retards. Democrats are the ones that love war. Sure Trump might talk a big game but honestly he is all bluster. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20525770 Think about it name one war that Trump has been in? Now look at Obama the man of peace and look at how many covert wars and countries were overthrown by the CIA when he was president. I admit that for a long time I didn't totally understand the comment of why liberals tend to stumble into wars and military battles. Now I realize why the poor judgment and lack of good sense common among the left, along with their lack of ethics and empathy, make for a deadly combination. Liberals are shitty when it comes to common sense, integrity, ethics and compassion. If people are weak in those crucial categories, they more easily stumble into social, cultural economic, political black holes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78349802 United States 10/18/2020 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would agree with you if someone like George W. Bush or Bill Clinton was in control of the US military. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76236415 But right now... It will be horrific for the Chicoms and almost instantly over if they choose that route. Yeah, we have a honeybadger in office, and long before he was elected, he told the world his philosophy on vengeance after being wronged. He 'don't give a shit', and I predict it will not be a long, drawn out war for MIC wealth redistribution to which we have become accustomed. . The trouble is that nation has gotten significantly stronger since clinton was president and gave them free reign in trade. And they've done underhanded stuff like buy property worldwide and send students around to spy, from what people have been saying. Nobody knows what they are capable of now. |
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Agent 99 User ID: 77082640 United States 10/18/2020 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Acts of aggression is a symptom, not legit reason for war. Quoting: Agent 99 8 Main Reasons for War Economic Gain Territorial Gain Religion Nationalism Revenge Civil War Revolutionary War Defensive War China's Nationalism is at stake. They are being blamed for Covid and pushed into economic collapse. Starting war wouldn't help them gain economically. China has 60,000 troops at the border with India in Kashmir currently. So this move to get their researchers back is probably because they need them. China didn't created and release Covid. Someone set them up for at least 4 of the Reasons for War. More like China is testing the relationship with US, in their decisions about India (since US is allied with India). Opportunity in diplomacy. yes.. but don't discount economic gain.. China needs a lot of food and resources to take care of its population expecting a growing standard of living. Also their much vaunted silk road project is in question now. But you could argue that is needed to be addressed to maintain control of CCP or preserve current Chinese nationalism. What matters is the timeline. And this is tricky. China didn't SEEK economic gain initially. 1. Trump redefined Trade. That was ok, China had other resources (no war) 2. Opportunity in East Africa. China bought property and built bases. (not an act of war) 3. Covid pushed China into bad position. (China would not commit suicide so China didn't release Covid, someone set them up... for one of the 8 reasons of war, but who?) India didn't SEEK war initially. 1. Kashmir has had no borders for a hundred years. Only now when that gateway to China is too risky is it a concern. 2. Kashmir also allows Pakistan to encroach on India. Both are in DEFENSIVE POSITIONS. But from whom? Armenia didn't SEEK war. 1. Attacked by Azerbaijan over what? Another gateway in Asia? The reason someone would need to close a gateway is because someone else is trying to attain TERRITORY. Same Force is seeking Religion domination. Same Force is seeking Nationalism. Who is actively at war, blowing up shit, destroying shit, killing millions, in Asia, Africa, and the West? |
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Agent 99 User ID: 77082640 United States 10/18/2020 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would agree with you if someone like George W. Bush or Bill Clinton was in control of the US military. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76236415 But right now... It will be horrific for the Chicoms and almost instantly over if they choose that route. Yeah, we have a honeybadger in office, and long before he was elected, he told the world his philosophy on vengeance after being wronged. He 'don't give a shit', and I predict it will not be a long, drawn out war for MIC wealth redistribution to which we have become accustomed. . The trouble is that nation has gotten significantly stronger since clinton was president and gave them free reign in trade. And they've done underhanded stuff like buy property worldwide and send students around to spy, from what people have been saying. Nobody knows what they are capable of now. Of course we know what China is capable of. They have a fairly new Military, and especially the Navy. They have 2 billion mouths to feed. They are communist, China, Vietnam, Laos, North Korea, and Cuba are the only communist countries. China has 200 nukes. India and Paki 100 respectively, US and Russia 7000 respectively. Politics are not the same as Diplomacy and Military. What we hear in MSM is usually a reflection of Politics, which isn't POWER. (feelings aren't facts). |
darth User ID: 28178764 United States 10/18/2020 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Acts of aggression is a symptom, not legit reason for war. Quoting: Agent 99 8 Main Reasons for War Economic Gain Territorial Gain Religion Nationalism Revenge Civil War Revolutionary War Defensive War China's Nationalism is at stake. They are being blamed for Covid and pushed into economic collapse. Starting war wouldn't help them gain economically. China has 60,000 troops at the border with India in Kashmir currently. So this move to get their researchers back is probably because they need them. China didn't created and release Covid. Someone set them up for at least 4 of the Reasons for War. More like China is testing the relationship with US, in their decisions about India (since US is allied with India). Opportunity in diplomacy. yes.. but don't discount economic gain.. China needs a lot of food and resources to take care of its population expecting a growing standard of living. Also their much vaunted silk road project is in question now. But you could argue that is needed to be addressed to maintain control of CCP or preserve current Chinese nationalism. What matters is the timeline. And this is tricky. China didn't SEEK economic gain initially. 1. Trump redefined Trade. That was ok, China had other resources (no war) 2. Opportunity in East Africa. China bought property and built bases. (not an act of war) 3. Covid pushed China into bad position. (China would not commit suicide so China didn't release Covid, someone set them up... for one of the 8 reasons of war, but who?) India didn't SEEK war initially. 1. Kashmir has had no borders for a hundred years. Only now when that gateway to China is too risky is it a concern. 2. Kashmir also allows Pakistan to encroach on India. Both are in DEFENSIVE POSITIONS. But from whom? Armenia didn't SEEK war. 1. Attacked by Azerbaijan over what? Another gateway in Asia? The reason someone would need to close a gateway is because someone else is trying to attain TERRITORY. Same Force is seeking Religion domination. Same Force is seeking Nationalism. Who is actively at war, blowing up shit, destroying shit, killing millions, in Asia, Africa, and the West? Just WHO are you an agent FOR? The Wuhan Virus came from WUHAN. Crystal clear. It was almost certainly an accident because the Chicoms are sloppy when it comes to safety and QA. This type of virus is a lousy bio weapon because it is almost impossible to create a vaccine. NO ONE launches a bio weapon that will come back on them. That would be insanity. My take: Some researchers were trying to see how BAD they could make a virus. It escaped the lab. Chicom propaganda on this subject is WEAK. Ref the conflict in the Himalayas, its about WATER. The Chicoms are claiming the entire region is "South Tibet". If they control the water, they can divert it to China for ag. India would starve. Why does China have territorial conflicts with every neighbor? They want an empire. They are arrogant and think they are superior to every other race and ethnicity. Just like the Japanese 90 years ago. China will fail. They are dependent on freedom of navigation and world trade. We can cut that off and they don't have any warships capable of stopping us. Nuke war? The CCP would lose control of their country. The Chinese people would rise up against them. What threat does China face that is so dire that they would commit national suicide by nuke war? They are not being invaded. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78107266 United States 10/18/2020 04:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to time.com (secure)] Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe invited the Chinese businessman whose donations to him have been named as a focus of Justice Department investigators to a 2013 fundraiser at Hillary Clinton’s personal Washington, D.C., residence. Wang Wenliang, a Chinese national with U.S. permanent residency, briefly shook Clinton’s hand at the Sept. 30 event, a representative for Wang told TIME. An American company controlled by Wang made a $60,000 contribution to McAuliffe’s campaign three weeks before the fundraiser. Less than a month later, a separate Wang company pledged $500,000 to the Clinton Foundation, the first of several donations that eventually totaled $2 million. |
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Agent 99 User ID: 77082640 United States 10/18/2020 05:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to time.com (secure)] Quoting: Gucky Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe invited the Chinese businessman whose donations to him have been named as a focus of Justice Department investigators to a 2013 fundraiser at Hillary Clinton’s personal Washington, D.C., residence. Wang Wenliang, a Chinese national with U.S. permanent residency, briefly shook Clinton’s hand at the Sept. 30 event, a representative for Wang told TIME. An American company controlled by Wang made a $60,000 contribution to McAuliffe’s campaign three weeks before the fundraiser. Less than a month later, a separate Wang company pledged $500,000 to the Clinton Foundation, the first of several donations that eventually totaled $2 million. So many Wang jokes here. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77412172 United States 10/18/2020 05:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you think the US has militry primacy over China? think again [link to www.washingtonpost.com (secure)] The US would lose ANY war to China in the Pacific [link to www.theaustralian.com.au (secure)] How the U.S. Could Lose a War With China [link to www.theatlantic.com (secure)] Pentagon Sources Warn US May Lose War With China in the Pacific [link to www.newsbreak.com (secure)] Penatgon admits all simulations of war with china leads to the US losing [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] [link to www.i24news.tv (secure)] |