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China warns it will take Americans hostage if DOJ doesn’t drop charges against researchers

 
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Acts of aggression is a symptom, not legit reason for war.

8 Main Reasons for War
Economic Gain
Territorial Gain
Religion
Nationalism
Revenge
Civil War
Revolutionary War
Defensive War

China's Nationalism is at stake. They are being blamed for Covid and pushed into economic collapse. Starting war wouldn't help them gain economically.

China has 60,000 troops at the border with India in Kashmir currently. So this move to get their researchers back is probably because they need them. China didn't created and release Covid. Someone set them up for at least 4 of the Reasons for War.

More like China is testing the relationship with US, in their decisions about India (since US is allied with India). Opportunity in diplomacy.
 Quoting: Agent 99


yes.. but don't discount economic gain.. China needs a lot of food and resources to take care of its population expecting a growing standard of living. Also their much vaunted silk road project is in question now.

But you could argue that is needed to be addressed to maintain control of CCP or preserve current Chinese nationalism.
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China needs to remember their place. China's place: cheap manufacturing, and where our royals go to placate unspeakable appetites.


hf
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If we have pieces of chit even around those paleo rats, who cares? A good riddance!
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10/18/2020 03:01 PM
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So glad I visited China when I did. Tourist visits to Shanghai and Beijing. Once to Shanghai and four visits to Beijing.

We were treated like celebrities! The people there were so wonderful...everywhere we went, they wanted to take photos with us. Young and old. They were so sweet. I hate to see this conflict happening and feel badly for the people.
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Half of my family is taiwanese, everyone from taiwan is calling and begging their familys in USA to vote Trump out, they are terrified of a war with China. Taiwan is a tiny island.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77727366


And half of your family are retards. Democrats are the ones that love war. Sure Trump might talk a big game but honestly he is all bluster.

Think about it name one war that Trump has been in?

Now look at Obama the man of peace and look at how many covert wars and countries were overthrown by the CIA when he was president.
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10/18/2020 03:02 PM
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this is the way Gangsters talk.. and negotiate..
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10/18/2020 03:05 PM
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China should have did this the first time the Trump administration took the daughter of a Chinese executive hostage. Russia should have done the same when Trump took a Russian gun rights activist hostage. Go China!
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10/18/2020 03:06 PM
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They already murdered 16 cia agents because of Hillary

Nuke them till they glow
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FUCK OFF AND DIE YOU STUPID OL CUNT
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10/18/2020 03:21 PM
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Israel controls both US and China through blackmail. That’s what Epstein and many others are tasked with doing-blackmail for geopolitical and financial control. It’ll soon come out that Israel is the one keeping the two super powers at odds, pitting one country against the other, forcing both to compete to be Israel’s “strongest ally.” [link to www.cnbc.com (secure)]
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America will son be history.

Fact 1 -
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America is dying and will be totally dead soon and very soon.
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wtfdid....stfu....let us know how Gulag life is "down under".
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10/18/2020 03:26 PM
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Israel controls both US and China through blackmail. That’s what Epstein and many others are tasked with doing-blackmail for geopolitical and financial control. It’ll soon come out that Israel is the one keeping the two super powers at odds, pitting one country against the other, forcing both to compete to be Israel’s “strongest ally.” [link to www.cnbc.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79349131



America will son be history.

Fact 1 -
Fact 2 -
Fact 3 -

America is dying and will be totally dead soon and very soon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79507231


You Jacinda Arden'd yourself to FASCIST HELL again, you simpering Kiwi sheep-shagger - bugger off!

flipoffaholeflipoff
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hesright Same devil ruling America is ruling that of ours. May be I should have said it differently. Anyways yousuck
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10/18/2020 03:26 PM
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I just had to do it.
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10/18/2020 03:29 PM
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And half of your family are retards. Democrats are the ones that love war. Sure Trump might talk a big game but honestly he is all bluster.

Think about it name one war that Trump has been in?

Now look at Obama the man of peace and look at how many covert wars and countries were overthrown by the CIA when he was president.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20525770



I admit that for a long time I didn't totally understand the comment of why liberals tend to stumble into wars and military battles. Now I realize why the poor judgment and lack of good sense common among the left, along with their lack of ethics and empathy, make for a deadly combination.

Liberals are shitty when it comes to common sense, integrity, ethics and compassion. If people are weak in those crucial categories, they more easily stumble into social, cultural economic, political black holes.
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10/18/2020 03:30 PM
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I would agree with you if someone like George W. Bush or Bill Clinton was in control of the US military.

But right now...

It will be horrific for the Chicoms and almost instantly over if they choose that route.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76236415


Yeah, we have a honeybadger in office, and long before he was elected, he told the world his philosophy on vengeance after being wronged.

He 'don't give a shit', and I predict it will not be a long, drawn out war for MIC wealth redistribution to which we have become accustomed.

.
 Quoting: TXP


The trouble is that nation has gotten significantly stronger since clinton was president and gave them free reign in trade. And they've done underhanded stuff like buy property worldwide and send students around to spy, from what people have been saying.

Nobody knows what they are capable of now.
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10/18/2020 03:32 PM

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If the Chicoms take hostages, intercept ALL shipping to/from China in the Persian Gulf, Indian Ocean, and mid-Pacific.

They can't do shit except starve at that point.
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10/18/2020 03:34 PM
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its hard to keep words nice..

but fuck you chinese government
Grove

And this is why we can't have nice things.
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10/18/2020 03:36 PM

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Re: China warns it will take Americans hostage if DOJ doesn’t drop charges against researchers
Acts of aggression is a symptom, not legit reason for war.

8 Main Reasons for War
Economic Gain
Territorial Gain
Religion
Nationalism
Revenge
Civil War
Revolutionary War
Defensive War

China's Nationalism is at stake. They are being blamed for Covid and pushed into economic collapse. Starting war wouldn't help them gain economically.

China has 60,000 troops at the border with India in Kashmir currently. So this move to get their researchers back is probably because they need them. China didn't created and release Covid. Someone set them up for at least 4 of the Reasons for War.

More like China is testing the relationship with US, in their decisions about India (since US is allied with India). Opportunity in diplomacy.
 Quoting: Agent 99


yes.. but don't discount economic gain.. China needs a lot of food and resources to take care of its population expecting a growing standard of living. Also their much vaunted silk road project is in question now.

But you could argue that is needed to be addressed to maintain control of CCP or preserve current Chinese nationalism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76667758


What matters is the timeline. And this is tricky.

China didn't SEEK economic gain initially.
1. Trump redefined Trade. That was ok, China had other resources (no war)
2. Opportunity in East Africa. China bought property and built bases. (not an act of war)
3. Covid pushed China into bad position. (China would not commit suicide so China didn't release Covid, someone set them up... for one of the 8 reasons of war, but who?)

India didn't SEEK war initially.
1. Kashmir has had no borders for a hundred years. Only now when that gateway to China is too risky is it a concern.
2. Kashmir also allows Pakistan to encroach on India.

Both are in DEFENSIVE POSITIONS. But from whom?

Armenia didn't SEEK war.
1. Attacked by Azerbaijan over what? Another gateway in Asia?

The reason someone would need to close a gateway is because someone else is trying to attain TERRITORY. Same Force is seeking Religion domination. Same Force is seeking Nationalism.

Who is actively at war, blowing up shit, destroying shit, killing millions, in Asia, Africa, and the West?
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10/18/2020 03:39 PM

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this is the way Gangsters talk.. and negotiate..
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Agree.

The Godfather being played out on the World canvas.

Families against families, and when it gets to internal struggle there are lots of assassinations, financial losses, and territorial changes.
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10/18/2020 03:40 PM

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If the Chicoms take hostages, intercept ALL shipping to/from China in the Persian Gulf, Indian Ocean, and mid-Pacific.

They can't do shit except starve at that point.
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Omnipotence isn't a thing.
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10/18/2020 03:45 PM

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Re: China warns it will take Americans hostage if DOJ doesn’t drop charges against researchers
I would agree with you if someone like George W. Bush or Bill Clinton was in control of the US military.

But right now...

It will be horrific for the Chicoms and almost instantly over if they choose that route.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76236415


Yeah, we have a honeybadger in office, and long before he was elected, he told the world his philosophy on vengeance after being wronged.

He 'don't give a shit', and I predict it will not be a long, drawn out war for MIC wealth redistribution to which we have become accustomed.

.
 Quoting: TXP


The trouble is that nation has gotten significantly stronger since clinton was president and gave them free reign in trade. And they've done underhanded stuff like buy property worldwide and send students around to spy, from what people have been saying.

Nobody knows what they are capable of now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78349802


Of course we know what China is capable of.
They have a fairly new Military, and especially the Navy. They have 2 billion mouths to feed.
They are communist, China, Vietnam, Laos, North Korea, and Cuba are the only communist countries.
China has 200 nukes. India and Paki 100 respectively, US and Russia 7000 respectively.

Politics are not the same as Diplomacy and Military. What we hear in MSM is usually a reflection of Politics, which isn't POWER. (feelings aren't facts).
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Re: China warns it will take Americans hostage if DOJ doesn’t drop charges against researchers
Acts of aggression is a symptom, not legit reason for war.

8 Main Reasons for War
Economic Gain
Territorial Gain
Religion
Nationalism
Revenge
Civil War
Revolutionary War
Defensive War

China's Nationalism is at stake. They are being blamed for Covid and pushed into economic collapse. Starting war wouldn't help them gain economically.

China has 60,000 troops at the border with India in Kashmir currently. So this move to get their researchers back is probably because they need them. China didn't created and release Covid. Someone set them up for at least 4 of the Reasons for War.

More like China is testing the relationship with US, in their decisions about India (since US is allied with India). Opportunity in diplomacy.
 Quoting: Agent 99


yes.. but don't discount economic gain.. China needs a lot of food and resources to take care of its population expecting a growing standard of living. Also their much vaunted silk road project is in question now.

But you could argue that is needed to be addressed to maintain control of CCP or preserve current Chinese nationalism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76667758


What matters is the timeline. And this is tricky.

China didn't SEEK economic gain initially.
1. Trump redefined Trade. That was ok, China had other resources (no war)
2. Opportunity in East Africa. China bought property and built bases. (not an act of war)
3. Covid pushed China into bad position. (China would not commit suicide so China didn't release Covid, someone set them up... for one of the 8 reasons of war, but who?)

India didn't SEEK war initially.
1. Kashmir has had no borders for a hundred years. Only now when that gateway to China is too risky is it a concern.
2. Kashmir also allows Pakistan to encroach on India.

Both are in DEFENSIVE POSITIONS. But from whom?

Armenia didn't SEEK war.
1. Attacked by Azerbaijan over what? Another gateway in Asia?

The reason someone would need to close a gateway is because someone else is trying to attain TERRITORY. Same Force is seeking Religion domination. Same Force is seeking Nationalism.

Who is actively at war, blowing up shit, destroying shit, killing millions, in Asia, Africa, and the West?
 Quoting: Agent 99


Just WHO are you an agent FOR?

The Wuhan Virus came from WUHAN. Crystal clear.

It was almost certainly an accident because the Chicoms are sloppy when it comes to safety and QA.

This type of virus is a lousy bio weapon because it is almost impossible to create a vaccine.

NO ONE launches a bio weapon that will come back on them. That would be insanity.

My take: Some researchers were trying to see how BAD they could make a virus. It escaped the lab.

Chicom propaganda on this subject is WEAK.

Ref the conflict in the Himalayas, its about WATER. The Chicoms are claiming the entire region is "South Tibet". If they control the water, they can divert it to China for ag. India would starve.

Why does China have territorial conflicts with every neighbor? They want an empire. They are arrogant and think they are superior to every other race and ethnicity.

Just like the Japanese 90 years ago.

China will fail.

They are dependent on freedom of navigation and world trade.

We can cut that off and they don't have any warships capable of stopping us.

Nuke war? The CCP would lose control of their country. The Chinese people would rise up against them.

What threat does China face that is so dire that they would commit national suicide by nuke war? They are not being invaded.
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Unfortunately war with China is very likely at this juncture.

Especially with all that's coming out on the Biden hard drives.

Prepare accordingly.

You think these recent shortages were bad?

hah!

We'll have NOTHING if real war with China breaks out.

Maybe not even power.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


This
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10/18/2020 04:08 PM
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Sick of the american dumb fuqs on this site routing for China.
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10/18/2020 04:11 PM

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Sick of the american dumb fuqs on this site routing for China.
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Because it's a football game?
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10/18/2020 04:13 PM
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let them draw first blood..

i dont wish them any harm

but please dont mess us wuth us right now..

you wont be happy at all.
Grove

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What matters is the timeline. And this is tricky.
 Quoting: Agent 99

Just WHO are you an agent FOR?
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You talking to me?
You shall address me as Miss Pumpkin Agent 99.
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Idiots who love to travel to enemy countries should be required to sign a waiver that says they understand that they may be subject to kidnapping, false criminal charges and imprisonment or murder.
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10/18/2020 04:18 PM
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should have incinerated that bunch at the chinese virology lab who created covid 19 lotta news about it after now mostly censored
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Maybe we can trade Joe Biden for the hostages?
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Naw Chicoms already own Joe Biden.
Embrace the cognitive dissonance.
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[link to time.com (secure)]

Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe invited the Chinese businessman whose donations to him have been named as a focus of Justice Department investigators to a 2013 fundraiser at Hillary Clinton’s personal Washington, D.C., residence.

Wang Wenliang, a Chinese national with U.S. permanent residency, briefly shook Clinton’s hand at the Sept. 30 event, a representative for Wang told TIME. An American company controlled by Wang made a $60,000 contribution to McAuliffe’s campaign three weeks before the fundraiser. Less than a month later, a separate Wang company pledged $500,000 to the Clinton Foundation, the first of several donations that eventually totaled $2 million.
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Idiots who love to travel to enemy countries should be required to sign a waiver that says they understand that they may be subject to kidnapping, false criminal charges and imprisonment or murder.
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There are warnings.

Chinese might be asking for asylum in US, eh?
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[link to time.com (secure)]

Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe invited the Chinese businessman whose donations to him have been named as a focus of Justice Department investigators to a 2013 fundraiser at Hillary Clinton’s personal Washington, D.C., residence.

Wang Wenliang, a Chinese national with U.S. permanent residency, briefly shook Clinton’s hand at the Sept. 30 event, a representative for Wang told TIME. An American company controlled by Wang made a $60,000 contribution to McAuliffe’s campaign three weeks before the fundraiser. Less than a month later, a separate Wang company pledged $500,000 to the Clinton Foundation, the first of several donations that eventually totaled $2 million.

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So many Wang jokes here.
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you think the US has militry primacy over China? think again
[link to www.washingtonpost.com (secure)]


The US would lose ANY war to China in the Pacific

[link to www.theaustralian.com.au (secure)]


How the U.S. Could Lose a War With China

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Pentagon Sources Warn US May Lose War With China in the Pacific

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Penatgon admits all simulations of war with china leads to the US losing

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[link to www.i24news.tv (secure)]





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