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Has anyone noticed you can't hire competent people to do anything? They will charge the price of competence, then....

 
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10/18/2020 03:50 PM
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Has anyone noticed you can't hire competent people to do anything? They will charge the price of competence, then....
DO A SHITTY JOB.

It doesn't matter what the job or service is, they are going to fuck it up.

They will oversell it with the APPEARANCE of competence, take the money, and the quality of the work or service they perform will suck ass.

That is why im having to do more, and more, and more, and more, and more - MYSELF.

I hired a "reputable" company to do some work on my roof and flashing around my chimney. They sent 1 50yo guy and 1 70yo guy to do the estimate, AND THEY SAID THEY would do the work.

Day comes to do the work, the two guys that got out of the van looked like they were 17. I said they are going to fuck this job up, I knew it in my gut and I should have turned them away, I went against my gut and they fucked up the job. The seal they put leaks like a sieve not I got to stand in my driveway with these people tomorrow and have a screaming match to get them up on the roof to fix their fuck up.


And now ill have a shot and beer.
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10/18/2020 03:54 PM

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Re: Has anyone noticed you can't hire competent people to do anything? They will charge the price of competence, then....
If you want it done right, do it yourself.
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Re: Has anyone noticed you can't hire competent people to do anything? They will charge the price of competence, then....
DO A SHITTY JOB.

It doesn't matter what the job or service is, they are going to fuck it up.

They will oversell it with the APPEARANCE of competence, take the money, and the quality of the work or service they perform will suck ass.

That is why im having to do more, and more, and more, and more, and more - MYSELF.

I hired a "reputable" company to do some work on my roof and flashing around my chimney. They sent 1 50yo guy and 1 70yo guy to do the estimate, AND THEY SAID THEY would do the work.

Day comes to do the work, the two guys that got out of the van looked like they were 17. I said they are going to fuck this job up, I knew it in my gut and I should have turned them away, I went against my gut and they fucked up the job. The seal they put leaks like a sieve not I got to stand in my driveway with these people tomorrow and have a screaming match to get them up on the roof to fix their fuck up.


And now ill have a shot and beer.
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Trade schools took a shit long ago under our very bad politicians.
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10/18/2020 03:57 PM
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Re: Has anyone noticed you can't hire competent people to do anything? They will charge the price of competence, then....
working is for suckers. those who can supervise. that's what i do.
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Re: Has anyone noticed you can't hire competent people to do anything? They will charge the price of competence, then....
Yep. I've had this discussion with lots of people while building a house. No one communicated or coordinated the project, what a mess. And exactly the same, they sent the kids without oversight.

Also noticed that there are no apprentices anymore. Back in the day the young kids learned from the skilled craftsmen by working along side of them. No longer. So now we have a full generation of people with no skills.

And these kids can't learn those skills in school. Or at shitty fast food jobs. So yes, now we have a void in competence.

Everything, quality is down in everything now. Not only from depleting our resources, but from a failing economy. Dominoes.
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Re: Has anyone noticed you can't hire competent people to do anything? They will charge the price of competence, then....
working is for suckers. those who can supervise. that's what i do.
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Too bad you have no grammar skills.
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Re: Has anyone noticed you can't hire competent people to do anything? They will charge the price of competence, then....
working is for suckers. those who can supervise. that's what i do.
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Too bad you have no grammar skills.
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i don't get paid to send emails. i have an actual job.
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Re: Has anyone noticed you can't hire competent people to do anything? They will charge the price of competence, then....
Trade schools took a shit long ago under our very bad politicians.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79338671


Government elections are open to everyone. To blame politicians for everything seems lackluster. Nor are politicians omnipotent.

Problem, reaction, solution Culture doesn't increase our quality of labor either. And maybe that's the root cause, quantity over quality.
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10/18/2020 04:17 PM
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Re: Has anyone noticed you can't hire competent people to do anything? They will charge the price of competence, then....
my fee for labor is equal to materials cost.anything over that is company profit and greed.
a sheet of plywood floor grade is fifty bucks.my bill for all of it is 100 bux.if i own a storefront then its 150bux.
ill install that one sheet of plywood in a used house for that rate.
that is the bottom line.in a union state,its total cost is 300bux.
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10/18/2020 04:18 PM
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Re: Has anyone noticed you can't hire competent people to do anything? They will charge the price of competence, then....
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10/18/2020 04:23 PM
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Re: Has anyone noticed you can't hire competent people to do anything? They will charge the price of competence, then....
For a few decades now - getting even average workers to show up for work every day is very rare. After someone works for a company for a month or two they think they can come and go as they please. They think they are indispensable or something.

Last Edited by tkwasny on 10/18/2020 04:23 PM
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Re: Has anyone noticed you can't hire competent people to do anything? They will charge the price of competence, then....
For a few decades now - getting even average workers to show up for work every day is very rare. After someone works for a company for a month or two they think they can come and go as they please. They think they are indispensable or something.
 Quoting: tkwasny


my life is more valuable than yours.its charity for me to work for you.i may be poor but im financially secure poor.
if i work for you,do i get to use your vehicle to go to work?
do i get to live in your house and go out to eat with you?
do i get a membership at your country club?
if im your only employee,my labor is more valuable than yours because im doing the hard work.the real labor.
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Re: Has anyone noticed you can't hire competent people to do anything? They will charge the price of competence, then....
working is for suckers. those who can supervise. that's what i do.
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Too bad you have no grammar skills.
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i don't get paid to send emails. i have an actual job.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79508207


Pimping crack hos at the truck stop glory hole is not an actual job!
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Re: Has anyone noticed you can't hire competent people to do anything? They will charge the price of competence, then....
Yes. Its frustrating. I kind of think this stuff going on now is because of that. A few decades of dumbing down an entire generation. Probably cursed the next 4 generations with that move. No flesh would be left alive.
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Re: Has anyone noticed you can't hire competent people to do anything? They will charge the price of competence, then....
Quality of workmanship and service has plummeted.
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Re: Has anyone noticed you can't hire competent people to do anything? They will charge the price of competence, then....
working is for suckers. those who can supervise. that's what i do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79508207


This is exactly the attitude that has driven us down. This guy can barely write a sentence and he thinks he should be the boss. Unreal.
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Re: Has anyone noticed you can't hire competent people to do anything? They will charge the price of competence, then....
Absolutely. Had that problem up north until I moved to Florida. There is so much competition here with lowball pricing that sometimes I feel I am the one ripping them off.

Back to the north. Yup, a nonlicensed general handyman thinks their worth more. Messed up.
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Re: Has anyone noticed you can't hire competent people to do anything? They will charge the price of competence, then....
My wife took some tile laying seminars at Domicile-Depot for just that reason.

Her rational was

"Why should I *PAY* someone to lay tile badly?

I can lay tile badly myself!"
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Re: Has anyone noticed you can't hire competent people to do anything? They will charge the price of competence, then....
If they aren't licensed bonded and insured don't deal with them . ask for references and check them well .
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Re: Has anyone noticed you can't hire competent people to do anything? They will charge the price of competence, then....
For a few decades now - getting even average workers to show up for work every day is very rare. After someone works for a company for a month or two they think they can come and go as they please. They think they are indispensable or something.
 Quoting: tkwasny


my life is more valuable than yours.its charity for me to work for you.i may be poor but im financially secure poor.
if i work for you,do i get to use your vehicle to go to work?
do i get to live in your house and go out to eat with you?
do i get a membership at your country club?
if im your only employee,my labor is more valuable than yours because im doing the hard work.the real labor.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17233896


I would be glad to pay for your services. But I expect a fair estimate, I expect the work to be done on time that we agreed, I expect that you will not spit tobacco on my walkways, or pee in my bushes, and I expect the job to of quality and craftmanship.

That's a contract.

I don't give a fuck if you are jealous of a country club or that I can afford you.





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